You have got to be joking. Smash Bros requires more skill than this.
ST is the original meme game where people think 8-2 matchups take skill
Melee is still trash compared to Smash 4 though
>>320528557
people sure love those projectiles, huh?
>>320529590
>he thinks tr4sh is good
>>320528557
A smash player probably couldn't even pull off consistently timed fireballs
Why doesn't the Chun-Li player just rush his ass? Is there story behind this or is the guy just dumb?
>>320531998
Sagat is just waiting for her ass to make a move and she'll get a tiger uppercut up the cunt
>>320531998
projectiles are there to force an approach and cause some cheap damage. Basically, if you decide to take them, you get damaged, if you rush, the opponent will be able to predict where you're going and push your shit in.
I'm not a big SF fan but this might be a bad matchup, or just a not favorable matchup + getting cornered + the player not being one of the best.
street fighter is literally a no fun projectile spam fest. Smash is deep as fuck
Melee is the most complex competitive game ever created. That's why EVOfags are afraid of it.
>>320531805
I doubt most smash players could even do a fireball motion
this game is literally 20 years old of course it's going to be unbalanced as fuck
when was the last time you logged into your Nintendo Live account and updated your SNES games I'll give you a hint it rhymes with NEVER
>>320531998
TIGERUPPERCUT
>>320532553
lol
Isn't using O.Sagat or any of the other Old characters looked down upon in Japan?
>>320531998
>block
>take chip damage
>jump
>eat a dp
YOU'RE FUCKED
>>320532553
>>320533008
Quality shitposting.
>>320529590
That's nothing, remember when F.Champ beat Daigo in a literal 8-2 matchpup in SSFIV with Sim and he actually popped off about it?
That's like beat Zangief in vanilla SFIV with Sagat and bragging about it. It's also a shame that O.Sagat pretty much ruined everyone's perception of fireball characters in fighting games forever.
>>320533637
No. The only character that is soft locked in Japan is Claw and Akuma is the only character that is outright banned. In fact a lot of the O. Characters are kinda bad
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_2_Turbo#Tiers_.26_Balance
>>320533816
Well done!
>>320531998
Nuki is probably one of the best ST Chun-Li's in the world. John Choi is probably one of the best O.Sagat's in the world.
Anyone vs O.Sagat is a really difficult matchup because of how fast his fireball recovers, so he can get another one out. At that spacing, it's incredibly hard for the person in the corner to do anything because O.Sagat is dictating the pace of the match. If he decides to wait a little instead of immediately throwing a fireball, he can uppercut you for massive damage.
Chun-Li can try to trade fireballs to build super, as super will go through a fireball and regain screen control. However, fireballs do chip damage, so that plan has an inherent risk. She can try to jump out as well but Chun-Li has one of the floatiest jumps in the game and could easily be uppercutted by O.Sagat at that range.
tl;dr O.Sagat is an extremely strong character. In the corner, he is absolutely terrifying. The well spaced fireball trap tips most if not all options to O.Sagat's side.
That being said, ST is still a really fun game to play even though there is some real strong shit in the game.
>>320533816
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>>320533816
>>320533816
>>320534063
>when F.Champ beat Daigo in a literal 8-2 matchpup in SSFIV
If you're talking Dhalsim vs Ryu then that is a 6-4 match up. Daigo regularly beat Sabin in the same match up.
>>320531998
this is from her SRK writeup against Ryu, but it applies to this exact situation (in corner, getting fucked by qcf-input fireballs)
>Ryu's fireball is much better than Chun's (he doesn't have to charge for it, and it will go full screen), so he basically just wants to fireball her to death. If he can zone her with fireballs and push her back into the corner, his most effective range is a little bit more than half screen away with Chun in the corner. At that distance, she can't react to a fireball by jumping over it because that's easily countered with a DP, and she can't keep up with his fireballs because she has no time to charge. Because she's in the corner, jumping straight up over a fireball (especially a Fierce fireball) doesn't really give her a whole lot of advantage. Her best option is just to jump back over a fireball (so that she's charged), then either do air Spinning Bird Kick as she lands or throw a fireball to build meter. Her super is the only really effective way to get out of that situation.
Chun is trying to build her meter the entire time as safely as possible, but Sagat is at a massive advantage in this position.
>>320533637
O.Sagat is the only character considered Soft-Banned in Japan. Akuma is straight up banned.
>>320534129
is wrong. Claw may be super strong and dumb as shit but even Japan doesn't soft-ban him. Hell, there's a bunch of top players in Japan that still play him. (MAO, ARG, Noguchi)
>>320533816
Honestly made me laugh, well done.
>>320528557
Nice
I can cherrypick too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73zH1aQWfds
>>320533816
Ultimate kek.
My sides are literally destroyed.
>>320533816
>>320534836
I wish a girl would grab my dick. Even if it's in a manner like that.
>>320529590
Smash is fucking autism incarnate.
If you needed to represent a video game series as the MLP of video games, Smash would be it.
It's nothing but harmless fun BUT FUCKING AUTISTS TURN IT INTO A NIGHTMARE
I cannot fathom how you can get excited over DLC, I cannot fathom how you find any kind of entertainment in WATCHING other people play it, I cannot fathom for the life of me how you can unironically watch some nigger who browses 4chan and reads posts on youtube.
In general neo-Nintendo fans are fucking horrible human beings. The type that participate in console war threads, flame and the ones that go around saying the Wii U is actually good
Nintendo consoles should go away. 3DS bros can stay. At least they have some standards.
>>320528557
hah get it? the background npc's are doing jack off motions as a way of saying "choke"
>>320534836
I love Makoto!
>>320531805
>>320533085
I can. Smash has stuff that's harder to time than that.
>>320535109
>I cannot fathom how you find any kind of entertainment in WATCHING other people play it
Not smash but I enjoy watching SingSing stream dota 2. But that's just because the man is incredibly entertaining.
tekken is maximum deep skill
>>320535109
Modern nintendo really is no different from any other AAA developer with all the dlc and amiibo shilling, they just have all the colorful ips.
I understand watching smash, particularly melee, since you need a lot of dedication to do all the tech, and not everyone has that dedication. I don't get watching sm4sh though.
>>320535109
Can we stay focused for one sec here? This thread is about how autistic SF is, as shown in the vid of endless fireballs and complete garbage character balance. Smash can wait, or rather have its daily dose of raging spergs-hating-spergs shitpost later.
>>320535453
I haven't watched him in a long time. Fun guy
>>320535826
see >>320534836
No fireballs at all
Go back to your party game, shithead
>>320535109
You think people here like Etika anymore? He sold out years ago
>>320533816
Now this is how it's done. Good work.
>>320535652
Tekken is a technical fighter. It about getting combo chains off perfectly. Though it can be dull to watch. Probably has the deepest mechanics.
>>320535827
Should tune in. He got himself a cute as hell puppy. Pictures of it on his twitter.
https://twitter com/Sing2X
Smash 4 has more skill, but that's like saying I have more money than you because I have 2 pennies more than you.
64 was better.
>>320535652
Sick mind games dude, it's like that one movie where those two asian dudes visualize their entire fight, but the actual fight is one swing
Why didn't he just try to jump off the wall? Chun Li can do that. I mean, it's telegraphed as all hell, but what's your other option at that point?
>>320536007
>It about getting combo chains off perfectly.
Not even close.
But it's cute that you think you understand the game well enough to judge how deep it is.
>>320528557
What a typical scrub coward, pinning a character into a corner with fireball spams and only goes in for the kill when he knows they#re too low on health to hat back properly
>>320535914
>"p-p-p-p-p-FARTY GAEM!1!"
Nice one.
>>320528557
>hurr I have no idea what I'm even watching
>better make a post about it on /v/
fuck off casual.
What about MKX?
>>320528557
the one playing chun li is OBVIOUSLY retarded.
I can see 3 ways which she could escape and overturn.
remember, chun li can step on the side of the screen and gain massive height
I understand that street fighter was a monumental game and made loads of stuff happen because of it's existance, but that weebum in the OP is the prime example of why so many people think fighting games are boring garbage.
At a glance, with no knowledge of what is happening, that is more boring to watch that an LP of the standard walking simulator.
And highlights the poor balance as well.
Why is that shit even considered stream worthy?
>>320535652
Will they ever fix Tekkens movement?
Its by far the worst out of all the 3D fighters.
Meanwhile they keep on nerfing the movement in Soul Calibur.
>>320536505
Who is streaming ST in 2015?
>>320533816
You're a pro
>>320533816
>>320536372
whats that
>>320537007
That is from a stream most likely and that was last year.
>>320533816
FUCK.
>>320535652
That movement actually takes a lot of constant inputs, for the record. The smaller movements that look like bad animation are dashes canceled into sidestep or vice versa.
>>320532542
>Nuki
>not one of the best
Smash Bros holds more depth to casuals
SF has more characters that are playable in a competitive environment
>>320533816
>>320533816
I was not expecting that
>that one guy samefagging his own epic post
>>320528557
Street Fighter games are about the mindset. There's a high tier, handicapped player that plays with his face to prove this
>>320537956
haha i know right?
>>320537956
this desu, those people need to go back to reddit
>>320533816
NOT EVEN MAD
>>320533816
Jokes on you, I already watched it.
>>320529590
There isn't many real FG players who think smash is legit at all.
Just sayin nignog.
>>320533816
i'm dead anon, good job
>>320528557
>he still plays anime fighting games
It's time to step up and be a real man, son.
>>320537956
what am i looking at here
>>320533816
Top kek.
>>320528557
>tfw street fighter will never be fast-paced and 2D againmods pls delete star wars spoilers
>>320534039
Post her smelly feet
>>320539301
Foot fetish fags need to be gassed.
>>320539004
Virtua Fighter is one of the best 3d fightan games around, yet hardly anyone plays it compared to all the other shit out there. It deserves to be far more popular than it is.
>>320533816
Half furious, half really impressed
>>320536372
50/50s and frame traps: the game. As someone who plays a fuck ton of MKX it conditions you to avoid holding block for prolonged periods because that's how you die. You learn how to block well, then immediately switch gears for a 2 frame opening.
Honestly I'd play a smash style capcom game even full on SF smash game
>>320535109
you have severe autism
>>320540132
It's called Marvel vs Capcom.
>>320528557
Get fucked, Nuki. USA USA USAI'm just kidding. I'm not even from the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA lol
>>320535652
swaying back and forth looking for an opening
like boxing
>>320539070
Huffing paint.
How can I get people to play SF2 with meonline?
>>320540443
I only liked the first one, 2 and 3 were both varying levels of stank.
>>320542164
>this shit taste
Marvel 2 is the only good one out of the 3 games.
And Marvel 2 is the best fighting game there has ever been.
>>320533816
Who and who? Is this some fanfic spin off? I thought Disney declared those non cannon
>>320528557
>smash bros
>autistically spazz your hands over the controller with little to no precision
>skill
but by all means, enjoy your carpal tunnel
>>320540396
No u
>>320528557
>People want to take out Melee for more of THIS.
Fighting games community, everyone.
>>320544907
You do realize the people that run EVO don't want Smash at their tournament. The only reason smash even got in was because the people that run EVO were sick of the whining.
>>320545018
>You do realize the people that run EVO don't want Smash at their tournament.
Nice source.
Fighting game community, everyone.
>>320535652
see>>320540631
As someone who played competitive level Tekken it is a very high skilled game, much like any other fighter a good combo or two mean you lose out on like thousands of dollars.
Much like boxings weaving and juking Tekken is a game where you have to know character reach REALLY good paul being the bigger character has longer reach than Lili so the Lili player can't just go balls to the wall
>>320545181
Its on SRK's website. And before you say who the fuck is SRK, SRK runs EVO.
Smashfags everyone. Don't even realize people hate them.
>>320544907
>this dumbass thinks SFII is still played main stage at EVO
>this moron things smash is more competitive than SFII
>>320545018
>>320545181
no a bunch of EVO 14, 15 games only made it in because they did a donation drive of which Smash had the most supporters, sm4sh being new shinny naturally made it into EVO same as GGXrd etc. pretty much any new fighter makes it to EVO as long as it comes out at least a good few months before the tournament
s4sh has maybe one good EVO left before it's gone hopefully for good, the only reason I think it'll be played next year is because of all the DLC characters but once the trickle of those stop it'll no longer be relevant
Smash is like starcraft 2, empty APM. You make a billiom inputs to make something basic and strightforward.
>>320539382
>>320533816
>mfw spoilers have saved me money I would have wasted on SJJW Abrams terrible movie
>>320545634
Are you retarded? Smash was in EVO before 2014. And literally the first year smash was ever at EVO was due to the fact that SRK was tired of smash babbies whining.
O.Sagat is soft banned for a reason.
>>320533816
Why do people act like Star Wars spoilers are shocking who didn't know that man was gonna die?
>>320528557
>Comparing an imbalanced game from 1992 that has a playerbase of 50 people to smash
top cherry picking
>>320531998
The match is about footsies. The sagat managed to get the perfect distance where he can lock her down. She fucked up and now her only way out is to try and build meter for super or more likely for the sagat to make a mistake by throwing the wrong fireball, messing up the timing on a fireball or uppercut, accidentally walking out of distance, or getting greedy and trying to go for a throw or something.
All fighting games are trash.
NFA tryhard tests where the winner is determined by the autist who knows how exploit the most amount of frames.
>>320536136
Try to get super before you die and get 50% and mid-screen. Which he did but Choi knew he'd be looking for it and was close enough to winning he no longer needed the positioning and went the fuck in.
The thing about ST is that everything is so dangerous and the rounds so potentially short that accepting you totally fucked up and are going to lose the round is part of the game.
What about Kof?
>a game that's older than most of /v/ is broken
Oh dear what a crime
>>320533816
>mods delete the best post in this shitty thread
incredible
