Since the TF2 community is going to die sooner or later, how would Valve go about making a TF3?
What improvements could they make?
Have they ever released a sequel to a game with hats?
Make it exactly the same as TF2 except remove the spy and demoman.
>>320505646
>sooner or later
It's still thriving though. It's far more active and popular today than it was before it went F2P.
>>320505950
>demoman
>removing the best class
>>320505646
How the fuck would you update a game that was pretty much perfect on balance for release?
>valve
>making games
Then barely even update their games, what makes you think they would make a new one?
All they care about is esports money
Valve will never make another decent video game ever again.
>>320506436
Remake it with Source2
>>320506678
They'll just do a Source 2 update for TF2 like they did with Dota 2. It'll keep going till the game has 0 players left in the world.
What was the CS:S community like right before CS:GO was announced?
Not making one at all. Its time to stop supporting sequelization. I'd much rather have valve make a new multiplayer IP from the ground up than build off of TF2's base.
This attitude is why we have so many resident evils and sims 3 despite not advancing the formula at all
>>320506436
>that was pretty much perfect on balance for release?
>how they will make TF3:
not at all
>how they should make TF3:
I don't know, destructible terrain? Classes that have like 5 different utility functions with maps that have more objectives and interaction, so the game is more strategic instead of arcadey? So say demoman could shoot grenades, or throw out giant detpacks, or use thermite charges to blow holes in walls or blow up bridges, or mines/stickies, or giving allies bomb vests. But that's probably too much like that new rainbow 6 game.
Oh yeah, you could put it in the future(or james bond moonraker cold war sci-fi space) and make the game in a zero G environment with 6 degrees of freedom.
If valve decides to make it overwatch will be kill
recoil in the guns
skill based shooting
Better lighting and shading.
Strip all the cosmetics and unlocks and start from the ground up with what works and cosmetics that don't rape the artstyle
Make every class worth using and not just demo and soldier
Improve the physics and horrendous hit detection
Expand on old mechanics or create new ones using the new engine
There will never be a TF3.
They could port it to Source 2 but that's all.
>>320508004
>recoil
>>320508004
If you want to play CS you can just play CS you know.
>valve
>3
umm
hats, maybe weapon skins
and I dunno, maybe even clothes for characters
>>320505646
character creator where everyone ends up looking different but without doing it through hats. And you pick and choose class loadouts instead of being given characters that are specific classes
>>320508286
cs go and cs source is not what I am talking about. Those games are about as casual as TF2. cs 1.6 recoil is what I am talking about.
>>320508228
If you do not want to play games where shots matter please leave.
>>320508537
Then go play cs 1.6?
>>320508537
go be retarded somewhere else.
>>320508615
A game that has the gunplay of cs 1.6 in 2015 form would be nice.
With the combination of fun from tf2 mixed with that it would be a award winning combination, and everyone would love the game.
There is nothing like that besides games like KF2 and KF1 and those games still have less recoil then cs 1.6
>>320505646
>What improvements could they make?
Either make every class like Soldier/Scout/Demo where player skill can overcome bad situations and they all have something to offer to a good player.
or
Make none of the classes like that and give everyone clearly defined roles and counters.
The former would be preferable.
Trying to do both was a mess.
>>320508790
Retarded means you do not want to learn how to play a game and you want easy recoil so you do not have to do anything to get good at the game.
So you leave.
Tfw no comp tf2
>>320508923
>recoil is the only possible form of skill in the entire FPS genre
>>320508923
>n-no you leave
>>320508004
recoil doesn't work with arcadey shooters like tf2
>>320508923
fast movement takes skill randomly generated hits are cancer
>>320509034
>>320509081
With real recoil every gunfight feels more intense and with the right hits on enemies it feels better when you win a battle with this setup.
Forward to CS go
Enemies are bullet sponges and every kill feels the same.
Not like CS 1.6 where if you shot someone in the leg a percentage of health went down.
I am not saying that there is not other skill in first person shooters.
I am saying that games that have no recoil are less skill based then ones that do.
>>320509251
It can work.
What about TF1
it had recoil.
>>320509339
Fast movement is a plus as well, I am not talking about randomly generated hits I am talking about how recoil affects a shot and whether your good enough to hit your target or not.
Hard to tell. Firt of all, if they ever decide to do it, they might want to give players to option to transfer their items. Because there is so much currency in some accounts. But that would be a mess and how do you update hats and effects if any graphic improvment. It would be easir to start fresh but that would be a big slap to the compulsive buyers that wasted millons on keys and crates.
Now, a TF3 would be super intersting because the story that has been develop trough the years (mostly trought the comics) with the characters. They are now completly fleshed out, and they have even incorporated TF Classic to the lore. I could definetly see a new arc in wich they face a common new enemy, new mercs, or whatever crazy thing.
What i would like to see, personally. New merchs, a single player adventure, improved graphics (but keeping the cartoon style), and focus on the esports potential.
>>320508525
That would be insanely dope
>>320505646
>tf2
>dead
i mean the game is not like the old days yes,but the end will not come sooner or later
>>320509863
>It would be easir to start fresh but that would be a big slap to the compulsive buyers that wasted millons on keys and crates.
yeah they deserve it
I would love to see a TF3, I like TF2 as much as the next guy but it does seem to have run its course now. Not only that but I'd love to see those fucks who have based their lives around hats get fucked over.
Go back to the drawing board with the Medic and Engineer classes.
>>320506558
they just released patches for CSGO and dota, tard
>>320505646
>destructible terrains
>automobiles like a jeep
>mountable cart in PL maps
>only default weapons but skins but unlockable like in COD
>bigger maps
>64 players server
>ban mexicans
Remove all the RNG in the gameplay.
Pistol spray, fixed spread, no crits, SMG spread, etc.
Unfortunately Valve can't count to 3, so don't expect it anytime soon.
>>320510578
anon, guys who "lived their lives around hats" understand when markets start to decline in value.
>>320509340
You're retarded. Kill yourself.
>>320513137
>destructible terrains
>64 players server
Yes
>automobiles like a jeep
Nah