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Thoughts?
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>Kojima likes making cinematic games and wants an enormous budget with little oversight
>picks Sony
Makes perfect sense, he couldn't have chosen better for his interests.
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>>320500580
>bloodborne
>cinematic
Ok
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He's flyin' solo now.
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>>320500620
Well not EVERY game can be cinematic. Most of them can be though.
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Fine actually. He'll work with people who give a shit (at least some what)
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>>320500445
Who the fuck watches Star Wars for the story?
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>>320500659
Disgaea?
Last guardian?
Persona 5?
Nier automata?
Cinematic?
OK
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>>320500445
Son of a bitch that filename, here I am thinking I'm hot shit avoiding spoilers, then bam. Nice one though.
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>Kojima makes movies
>Sony likes movies
>they come to an agreement

What a surprise
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>>320500787
>OK
Just how upset did I make you.

That's 4 games and 2 aren't even out.

And yes, Last Guardian looks cinematic absolutely. If anything you're helping my argument along.
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better than microsoft or EA or activision I guess

hopefully they respect him and throw stupid amount of money at him
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>>320500445
He's a hack.

Sony will just do like Konami, cut the fund when he'll start to burn money like a retard.

Look at MGS5, he did have plenty of time and money but wasn't able to release a game.
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>>320500841
When you watch the film it's not as much of a shock as you'd expect it to be for something like that.
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>>320500879
upset?
why am i upset?
Because i have games to play?
I don't get it
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>>320500445
>that facial hair
Punished "Hideo" Kojima
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>>320500445
HE WAS SUPPOSE TO GET FIRED & BEG FOR KICKSTARTER BUCKS LIKE THE HACK KEK CHINK HE IS! REEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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>>320501021
OK
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>>320500980
meme/10
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Anybody else notice the OP's filename?
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>>320501057
KO
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>>320500879
>That's 4 games
How many do you want 40?
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But the question is..

Will he be alright?
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>>320501263
I think asking for more than 3 existing games and maybe 10 games total that aren't cinematic shouldn't be too much to ask.

Before you copypaste that spammer guy's list, understand how many of those games are cinematic in nature. Don't be putting down every game and saying "in my opinion this is gameplay focused".
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>>320501139
+1
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>>320500841
Everyone knew Han dies since half a year ago, it's not even a surprise.
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>>320500787
it's cute how you're trying to point to other games, as if the fact that they exist absolves sony of the fact that they've been pushing cinematic cancer in games for years
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>>320501031
A fallen dev.
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>>320501349
Do you even know what the shit you are saying
Cinematic doesn't mean automaticly bad
and second there 10 games i can tell you that are not cinematic
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>>320501461
your post reeks spaghetios
You don't even make sense kid
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>>320500445
How long before he goes over budget and Sony realizes they've made a huge mistake?
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>>320501395
https://youtu.be/oifhpT0HZ7Q?t=2295


DID THESE HACK FRAUDS SEE THE SCRIPT.

IS THAT THE SCRIPT OVER THERE?
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>>320501556
buthurt
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>>320501472
>Cinematic doesn't mean automaticly bad

It does if you don't like that kind of "game".

You do.

Great.
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>>320501469
Shinkawa, I'm already a game producer.
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>>320501712
Why would Kojima be butthurt over that?

You mean Sony would be butthurt? They are used to funneling cash into nosediving projects.

>Wonderbook
>Vaio
>Ericsson
>Vita
>PSP
>Spider-man 2: Amazing Electric Boogaloo
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>>320501556
Honestly it'll probably be soon. I can only imagine how autistic Kojima gets when developing games.
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>>320501753
Let me guess , you play skyrim with mods and you have ''opinion'' about gaming
You also play LoL
You possibly watch gamegrumps
Excellent
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>>320501902
No I mean (You) are buthurt
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>>320500445
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>>320501969
No to everything there.

Is it a stereotype that people who like gameplay in games like those things? Those things sound like attributes of somebody who likes cinematic games, particularly the watching streamers part.
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I can not even begin to give a fuck about all this workplace drama.

I just want to know when we are gonna get the spiritual ZOE successor.
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>>320502035
I'm not the first guy you responded to.
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>>320500445
Well, considering pretty much every Metal Gear Solid game (except for V and Twin Snakes) was a Playstation exclusive in its time, it makes perfect sense.

He's been working with Sony for decades.
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>>320502089
Ok then i guess you don't like ''cinematic'' games then
Fine
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>>320502189
>in it's time
Good save.

The only exclusive is MGS4.
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>>320502163
then why you reply?
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>>320502071
I don't mind sharing with PC, so long as those filthy Xboners are left out in the rain.
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>>320502312
Because I was asking you to clarify who you meant was butthurt. I was explaining that neither Kojima or Sony would probably be butthurt, for the reasons I pointed out.
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>>320502327
Stop trying to push this meme you nigger. PC and PS4 owners are not allies.
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>>320500787
>>320501263
>>320501472
>>320501969
Holy shit, why you are so mad?I thought that corporate loyalty on /v/ was just a meme/falseflag.
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>>320502241
>>320502089
Oh shit what do you have to say now, son?
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>>320501902

You are really fucking stupid to think the PSP was a failure.
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>>320502479
Not really, I mean commercially.

Not as a platform. I have a PSP and play Super Nintendo games on it.
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>>320501461
>Sony
Now, I don't give a shit about sony but you don't need to blame them for cinematic shit. It's just what sells more these days and Sony wasn't the one that started. Blame amerifats for that.
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>>320502452
Nothing more needs to be said. He figured out I don't like that stuff and seems content with not trying to sell me on them now.
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>>320502452
I got BTFO !
you memed man !
You are the terminator !
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>>320502448
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Japanese man works with japanese comapany, it makes sense
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>>320502291
The point is he's worked with Sony on a consistent basis since '98.
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>>320502591
Nah man it ain't to late for a comeback.
Get this fool.
>>320502576
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>>320502448
It's less corporate loyalty and more

>My mom got me a ________
>I can't afford ________, __________ or _________

I have to justify owning just ___________ or I will feel regret.
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>>320501021
>Because i have games to play?
None of those games are out.
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>>320502071

I wonder why Sony is fine with moneyhatting so many PS4+PC games lately.
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>>320502746
I think it has more to do with $, if somebody else offered more he'd go there. You don't say that in an interview though unless you have autism.
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>>320502771
Are you asking for a reply sir?
Maybe some water to stop the thirst from the salt?
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>>320502402
>pushing console war bullshit
>"ROFL WE ARE TEH ENEMIES >:3"

Rules 2 and 3, dindu.
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>>320502402
>PC and PS4 owners are not allies.
Firstly, says who? Secondly, cretins who pledge allegiance to one platform should kill themselves. Thirdly, what about people who own both?
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>>320500787
Why are you so mad?
He just said Sony tends to focus more on that type of game. Fucking christ kids on v are so touchy
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>>320502951
Yeah just like this year right? And the year before...

But you go ahead and have fun playing the waiting game.
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>>320502951
At this point I'm rooting for you to be trolling
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>>320503043
I was playing a game on my ps4,
I am sorry what did you say ?
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>>320502853
OH SHIT DON'T ROPE ME INTO THIS
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>>320502951
Not him but that's not the point, retarded. Using games that aren't even out yet to help the argument that PS4 don't make just cinematic experiences is beyond stupid.

Nier doesn't even have a release date, P5 isn't a PS4 exclusive, Last guardian may be considered cinematic. These aren't really helping your point.
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>>320503104
No you're not.
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>>320503043
>broad generalization is posted
>list of items that defy that generalization is posted
>WHY ARE YOU SO MAD? STOP EXPLAINING WHY I'M WRONG YOU'RE SO MAD

Yeah, naw. Fuck off.
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>>320503080
It's funny that Bloodborne is the only game on this list that isn't completely shit.
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>>320503254
>list of items that defy that generalization is posted

I can list 2 items in a set of 20, that doesn't mean they prove anything except as exceptions to the rule.

>please only focus on the things that make me right

Yeah, naw.
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>>320503248
>>Pkuck talks about waiting
>>gets dragons dogma now

Anon gets a point here.
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>>320503254
Zing
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>>320503104
Odds are it's a cinematic game.
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>>320503080
where the hell is deep down
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>>320502402
>allies

This isn't WWII, you fucking retard. People like you are the reason this board has gone to shit.
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>>320503443
It's deep down in development hell.
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>>320503370
>I can list 2 items in a set of 20
He didn't list anything though. None of those games are out and some of them are in fact cinematic.
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>>320503325

Bloodborne is the only game on that list that is out. That is the joke. Your hate for Sony is so blinding you can't even bother to make sense.
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>>320503552
>This isn't WWII
You're right, that was gen 4.
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>>320501139
>star wars spoilers
Who cares

I mean of all the things to care about

Why that
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>>320501139
Dang, nice.
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>>320503325
I agree. As a matter of fact, if Bloodborne was on PC, it would be the only game on PC that is not shit.
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>>320503443
>Capcom
There's your answer.
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>>320503621
I'm the guy he was originally responding to.

I think Bloodborne certainly qualifies.

AND Disagaea 5.

That's it though, it's not a good showing.
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>>320503706
Yes, I am sure that all 20000 games on PC are shit. No exceptions.
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Ha ha PS4 and PC are friends now. We we didn't mean all that never Ever talk. I was just a prank.
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>>320502448
You just got BTFO.
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>>320503987
Why console war posts and threads are even allowed?This shit is so cancerous. Falseflag, ironic, serious, doesn't matter. Fuck off with this retardation.
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>>320503706
>it would be the only game on PC that is not shit

Anon has a point. We shit on the PS4 for having one game but it's not like the average PC game (eg Dying Light) is that better than the average PS4 game (eg Infamous SS).
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>>320502785
This.

If you're anything but an idort, you've made the wrong choice.
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>>320502807
Because the PS4 is the version 90% of ppl will play.
They only care about keeping it off Xbone.
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>>320504087
Are you mad that I didn't reply to your first post?What's this, baby-tier trolling?

Here's the (You) that you want so much.
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>>320504132
I agreed my PC brother we need to stick together. PC and PlayStation are bros for life.
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>>320500787
>Not sony
>ok
>not sony
>not sony
ok
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>>320500787
>Disgaea?
>Last guardian?
>Persona 5?
>Nier automata?
>Cinematic?
Those games are extremely cinematic, just not in the cutscene/scripted scene way that modern games do it.

Last Guardian makes use of cinematic camera placement during action sequences like SoTC
Persona 5 and Disgaea have cinematic attacks with long animations that make up the majority of your time playing and help give a sense of impact to the attacks.
Nier is also pretty cinematic for having a mix of both.

Kojima is good at doing the type of cinematic games that are similar to those instead o the modern AAA gaming kind, despite the "movie game" meme.
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>>320504254

If it's so cheap to keep it exclusive from PC as well why not go the extra mile instead of using buzzwords like Console Debut, Console Exclusive, etc?

Is this part of some long term strategy to ditch the console business?
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>>320503438
I'd certainly prefer a more tight, linear game from Koji rather than generic, open world shit.
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>>320500659
>i want my farm simulator
>i want my early access bugfest
>i want my cancerous moba
Why won't sony learn?
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>>320504598
I agree fully.
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>>320504467
>Persona 5 and Disgaea have cinematic attacks with long animations that make up the majority of your time playing and help give a sense of impact to the attack
Not him but did you ever played Persona?It's the JRPG with the least cinematic attacks I've ever seen. You would be better off arguing that the game is cinematic due to its massive focus on story.

>Kojima is good at doing the type of cinematic games that are similar to those instead o the modern AAA gaming kind, despite the "movie game" meme.
Many people aren't aware of this, but MGS 1 was one of the games that started this whole cinematic trend
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>>320502807
Sony makws money back from pc and console.
Many pc gamers.wont buy a coneole so they see it as extra sales not lost.
Xbone owners are console.users and thus wouls be lost sales.
Hell a few xboners might buy the pc version.
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>>320501139
Star Wars comics were better than this.
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>>320501654
They used "It's like poetry, it rhymes."
Don't need to see the script to guess that, or guess that Han Solo would die, since it was common knowledge that Ford wanted him dead in the original trilogy
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>>320504681

There are two cancerous looking mibas being advertised heavily for the ps4.
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>>320500445
Pretty funny filename anon, I reccomend everyone check it out for a chuckle
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>>320504737

Technically nothing is stopping Sony from publishing a game on the Xbone just like MS just published Minecraft on the Wii U.

I get that the Xbone is much more dangerous to Sony than PC, but I don't really see the reason why give PC players things since they're not potential Sony consumers in the slightest.
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>>320501021
>why am I upset?

nigga u should ask urself that before u waste time posting next time

but I got the answer
you're a fag
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>>320504467
>>320504396
You don't like these games?
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>>320500620
Sony didn't make Bloodbourne last I checked
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>>320505581
yeah sony is a publisher
they have development teams like from software
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>>320505470
I like them, but they're not really a great argument for "sony doesn't make cinematic games" since only one of them is actually owned by sony the rest are third-party exclusives that may or may-not come out on other platforms.
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>>320504269
Lol what a shitty comeback to his post
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>>320505663
From Software isn't a Sony development team last I checked
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>>320505581

Sony did. BB was developed by From in partnership with Japan Studio which is owned by Sony.
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>>320505989
what are they then?
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>>320506041
>Sony made Bloodborne!
>*Developed by From Software with some help from Japan Studio
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>>320505872
If you like them then why do you argue with me?
I personally played the ones that are out and am i excited fot the other that are coming
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>>320502807

Most of the sales end up being for PS4
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>>320506119
Are you fucking retarded or something? Do you not have access to a search engine despite having access to the internet and 4chan that you can't look it up yourself?
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>>320506290
>posts anime image

Oh so your one of those people. Filtered.
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>>320500787
>Disgaea
Not made by Sony
>Last Guardian
Made by Sony but definitely cinematic
>Persona 5
Not made by Sony
>Nier Automata
Not made by Sony
>Cinematic
Not a game
>OK
You definitely mad
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>>320506290
They made blodborne exclusively for playstation
I would call them really good partners
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>>320506428
whty you get trigered by some games?
Don't play them if you don't like them
No pun intended
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>>320506143

Exactly. Just like Japan Studio co-developed Demon's Souls with From, Soul Sacrifice Delta with Comcept and Marvelous and Freedom Wars with Dimps. All Sony games.

I'm sorry that you're so ignorant about the finer details of game development.
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>>320506428
They are exclusives....
Thats what matters
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>>320504681
>implying I don't own a PS4
Funny thing about criticism, it is loads more accurate when you have first hand knowledge of what you're criticizing.
I know it isn't very popular on /v/, but knowing what the fuck you're talking about really affects your arguments.
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>>320503080
You know what I don't think Rime is going to make the PS4 release any time soon, they already trying to revive The Last Guardian with the brunt of their manpower and that's not gonna come out until late 2016/early 2017.
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>>320506119
A game developer that isn't owned by Sony but still makes games for Sony
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>>320506608
>sony doesn't make cinematic games, just look at those games
>those are not sony games
>waaaah, you just don't like them
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>>320507215
preety much
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>>320506608
ironic shitposting is still shitposting
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>>320507235
What is a sony game then?
If its exclusive to playstation what is it?
Come one i think you can figure that out
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>>320507320
says the guy who is reporting people because he gets buthurt
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>>320507478
it has to be a game made by an internal studio like killzone
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>>320507659
Yes because thats the point here
The point is that you can play it in one platform
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>>320507659

Bloodborne WAS developed in partnership with an internal studio.
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>>320507478
>What is a sony game then?
Game published by SCE
If its exclusive to playstation what is it?
Either a sony game or a third-party exclusive, third-party exclusives don't mean shit, since they can be published on any other system if there's demand.
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>>320507794
you are embarassing yourself
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>>320507736
exclusive and first party are 2 different things
>>320507747
yeah but I doubt they did much work bloodborne was made by a third party for the most part
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Why do you guys care about exclusive games so much? I don't get it.
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>>320508093
Some of them are must play
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>>320508181
There is no video game in this world that is "must play".
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>>320507998
>yeah but I doubt they did much work
And so the backpedaling begins.
How I waited for this.
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>>320508093
console war bullshit makes them feel obligated to get it
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>>320507998

It doesn't matter how much work they did. As long as Japan Studio's logo is in the box of the game, Sony had involvement on a development level and is not just an acting publisher. Hence arguing that BB is not a Sony game is retarded.
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>>320508282
I just got here with>>320507659
don't know anything about the older argument
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>>320508259
yes there is
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>>320507587
>"REPORTFAG! REPORTFAG!"
Do you have a single fact to back that up or are you just getting this desperate?
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>now that Sony has a deal with kojima /v/ fags hate him
>a few months ago he was the Jesus of developers

Stay classy and jelly faggots
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>>320508451
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>>320508431
well yeah but since it was made by from software so its a from software game
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>>320507736
No the argument was that a Sony game has to be made by Sony or a Sony development team like Naughty Dog.
Mainline Monster Hunter games are exclusive to 3DS these days but nobody's calling them Nintendo games.
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>>320508443
Then please don't jump in knowing nothing.
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>>320508634
you asked a question and I answered it
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>>320508569
Oh wow a post made waaaaaaaaay back in the thread that was deleted, oh yeah that definitely proves that I am reporting people or that I reported that post. Oh yeah you got me fair and square. I admit defeat, guess I'll just turn myself in then!
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>>320508782
Someone didn't like the comeback so he reported
It wasn't ven shitpost
It was legit argument
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>>320508569
>Shitpost got deleted
>"Y-YYOU SEE YOU ARE A REPORTFAG! REPORTFAG IS BUTTHURT LUHMAO!"
All I see is you being a screeching retard on the internet, what does this prove exactly?
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>>320500445
>Some faggot who doesn't make games
>Goes with Sony
Sounds about right.
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>>320500445
I like how instead of the thread being about Hideo Kojima or about his choice to use a familiar company as a partner it's just a bunch of winterbreak kiddies acting like a bunch of absolute retards shitting on each other.
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>>320508925
>Shitpost
Everything is a shitpost in /v/
Someone got buthurt about the comeback and reported
Nice
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>>320500445
>Kojima spends entire life creating MGS games at KojimaProductions
>Konami tells him to fuck off
>they create a new studio without Kojima dedicated to MGS
>Kojima creates his own studio, now free of his former employees who backstabbed him and his game
>Grows a beard, just like Big Boss
>From FOX, two Phantoms were Born
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>>320509042
Oh shit I didn't even realize that it was winter break right now. No wonder thus place has been particularly shitty the last few days. It all started with the smash stickies.
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>>320508731
If I ask for food, you don't pull down your pants and take a shit.
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>>320509307
like pottery
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>>320500445
Welp, the Playstation brand is the best thing happened to console gaming history.
Of course he's close to Sony.
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>>320500445
Why does he look so old here.
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>>320507659
In that case almost nobody likes "Sony" games.

People buy Playstations for 3rd party games.

Sales data supports this.

Bloodborne sold very little in comparison with 3rd party stuff from EA, Take-Two and Activision.
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>>320500445
>these people
is that racist against japanese?
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>>320501021
jesus you got so defensive.

PC is superior but the PS4 has 1 good exclusive called bloodborne. be happy with it.
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>>320509818
i am playing it right now actually
Badass DLC
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What are the chances of Sony buying the Silent Hill IP?
Konami will probably continue to shit out cash ins until its completely dead
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>>320509943
>that blur
holy shit
this is upscaled isn't it?
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>>320510149
shit game man don't play it
the blur is bad
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>>320510234
I'm not the guy you were talking to, dummie.
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Blur is shit
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>>320500445
he's always been a sony shill so I question he never asked any else for a job
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so basically kojima is gona make games for playstation now?
Iam gonna buy one then
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>>320509535
He's 52 now.

He's bound to look older at some stage.
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>that midlife crisis

AYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>320509535
Kojima...Kojima has had a hard life.
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I'm ready for Punished Kojima's MSF Company.
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>>320514545
DVF - Developpeurs Sans Frontieres.
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which one, hideo or kojima
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>>320514636
Wow I'm stupid.
DSV*
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>>320514718
DSF**
Imma go to bed.
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>>320501263
lel, this madness
but sure, name 40 games, please do
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filename lol
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>>320501472
I agree, cinematic games aren't inherently bad.
It's just that no cinematic game has ever been good yet.
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lookin kinda punished there, hideo
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>>320514545
>Kojima makes outer heaven for developers
>A place where developers will always have a place in the world, free of publishers
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>>320517446
Is Shinkawa his Otacon or his Miller?
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>>320500624
https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2015/12/18/kojima-productions-reopens-the-legend-renews/
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>>320502402
>allies
more like lovers <3
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why is there a PS4 general in /vg/

Because generals are to discuss just one game
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>>320504535
No. When it comes to the publisher / developer relationship it's easy for Sony to throw a bone to Kojima and let him release on PC because it'll increase his projected sales and and ability to build hype, while not necessarily cutting to hard into their market share. Sony wants to dominate the console space, wants to see MS and Nintendo lose market share so they can bill themselves as the de facto console experience. They understand that PC is a market with separate users with different tastes.
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>>320520279
Is this why Sony keeps raping faces?
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>>320500445
If I worked at the concentration camp that is Konami, I'd trust the most familiar company I had dwelt with, too.
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Well when his next game comes out I'll be sure to get a ps5 so I can play it
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>>320506408
>Filtered
How new are you?
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>>320506687
>....
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>>320500445
looks like Hideaki Anno with more hairs and less beard
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>>320500445
filename confirmed
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>>320500445
Is that what he looks like without makeup?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annuTcmB1rw
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>>320500787
persona is pretty cinematic imo, just not in the way game devs usually use the term
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