>Super Smash Bros. 5.55 million; 2.93m in US, 1.97m in Japan
>Super Smash Bros. Melee 7.41 million (March 2014)
>Super Smash Bros. Brawl 12.93 million (October 2015)
>Super Smash Bros. for 3DS 7.37 million (October 2015)
>Super Smash Bros. for Wii U 4.03 million (October 2015)
Honestly, what does this mean for the future? Do you think the next Smash for NX will have a different director to try and shake things up? Or since the 3DS one still did well, that Smash will become a handheld franchise like Fire Emblem did?
The wiiu sold like shit, so that's most likely the reason it sold badly.
>>320486106
>11.4 million compared to last game's 13 million
not that much of a downgrade
>11 million is less than 5 million
It doesn't mean jack because the 3ds numbers were basically added when considering this generation of smash, making it the highest seller.
>>320486209
Super Smash Bros for Wii U only sold 4.03 million.
>>320486209
what
>forgetting that a 3DS version exists
If you dont think that this negatively impacted both WiiU Hardware and Software sales then you're a legitimate fucktard.
>>320486209
>>320486247
>list Smash as a Wii U exclusive on consolewar lists
>if people point out it's on the 3DS, scream "NOO THEYRE DIFFERENT GAMES"
>the different game sells fucking dogshit
>"Uhhh they're the same game, so their sales should be counted the same!!!"
Realistically OP, a move to mobile seems likely.
>>320486106
>worst selling console has worst selling game
HOLY SHIT, DOES THE MEDIA KNOW ABOUT THIS!?
>kept telling everyone Nintendo shot themselves in the foot by releasing it on the 3DS
>kept telling everyone that if people have a 3DS they won't need to purchase the Wii U version
>they said I was stupid and the Wii U one would outsell the 3DS version 10:1
>adamant that the Wii U version would be the most dominant
And now they're trying to claim the 3DS sales count for the Wii U version.
>>320486247
>Or since the 3DS one still did well, that Smash will become a handheld franchise like Fire Emblem did?
I noted the 3DS one did well. The sales of Super Smash Bros for 3DS are not sales for Super Smash Bros. for Wii U.
>>320486247
>2 games are 1 game
>>320486106
>10 million Wii Us
>4 million Sm4sh sales
What did you expect? Did you expect it to sell 15 million when only 10 million people own Wii Us? It's all about the install base. In fact, a 40% attach rate is extremely high, higher than any of the other Smash games besides Melee
>>320486506
>games besides Melee
And Brawl.
And For 3DS.
>>320486106
Splitting the release between 3ds and wii u was the worst decision they ever made.
Strained development meant less content for both releases.
3ds concessions meant the wii u version was neutered for parity.
One of the best selling console franchises for nintendo now gets cannibalised by competing with it's own hardware that has a bigger intall base.
What could have been in they focused solely on the wii u version.
It still made the most money of all of them
>>320486106
the Wii U has sold less than the Xbox One
let that sink in
people were ripped off by the Wii
it sold the most last gen but everyone saw what a waste it was, so naturally they'd avoid the Wii U
>>320486106
In a install base of 10 million of consoles, 4 millions is really great: SSB4 is one of the best selling games on wiiU indeed.
>>320486209
This
>>320486574
This desu senpai.
Imagine Wii U but with more fucking stages and Ice Climbers.
What did I miss yesterday? I've gathered Bayonetta is in the game which is great, and there are Geno hats, what else?
>>320486574
They made much more money this way
>>320486106
brawl sales are pathetic considering the console it's on sold more than 100 million units.
For argument's sake, let's say 3DS sales are worth half that of a Wii U. They're cheaper games, after all.
That puts the total sales for the 3DS version as equivalent to 3.685 million units worth of Wii U sales.
Combine that with the actual Wii U sales, and you've got 7.715 units sold.
That STILL makes Smash 4 the second-best selling Smash game.
>>320486643
N64 did thanks to that gen not having standardized prices in the game industry.
Also if you're trying to imply DLC prices or something, the e-shop sales report from their last quarterly shows the Wii U DLC does not sell very well.
>>320486691
>the Wii U has sold less than the Xbox One
>let that sink in
Nintendo is making more money for each WiiU compared to MS with each One.
Also, Nintendo is making money for first party games, pretty much the only thing in the system.
>>320486574
>worst
>still make about the same money on wiiU and 3DS
>overlapping sales means people bought 2 games
Even without the amiibo and dlc it's their most profitable Smash game, ever
>>320486775
This thread is about Smahs Bros. for Wii U being the least sold, and what that means for the future, ie a move to handhelds for future releases.
I don't know why it's turned into drones doing mental mathematics to count the 3DS sales as Wii U sales when they are separate games.
>>320486541
You have no idea what attach rate means
>>320486865
These sales dont exist in a vacuum. If you dont understand that you're an idiot.
>>320486851
MS dwarfs Nintendo in terms of profit power
Nintendo may make more for each console sold but the difference means nothing to a powerhouse like MS
these are guys who compete with fuckers like Apple we're talking about here
neither major game company comes close to their worth
>>320486864
>>320486759
Its short term vs long term.
Sure, it sold a lot for going on the 3DS, but at the same time many people who wouldve bought a WiiU for Smash Bros didnt get one.
And the same people who wouldve bought a WiiU for Smash Bros would most likely buy some more games to justify their purchase.
Mario Kart, Zelda and Smash Bros are Nintendos system sellers pretty much.
Smash Bros being multiplat and Zelda being that fucking late definitely contributed to the systems sales suffering.
>>320486106
epic :)
I'm not surprised at all that the 3DS version sold better. Not just because a 3DS is cheaper than a Wii U, but because the fact that it's portable means it will inevitably provide more hours of play time.
I have the 3DS version and I feel like I've put more time into it than I would put into a console version.
>>320487109
No one was gonna buy a WiiU for smash bros and nintendo knew it. They did the right thing
>>320487016
You are counting the sales of a separate game on a separate console for another game on another console.
They are not the same game. Sales of the 3DS version are not sales for the Wii U version.
There is no arguing this. You should not be combining or distributing numbers. Even if you look at the price disparity of the games, the Wii U version objectively sold less copies.
More people bought copies of the 3DS game than copies of the Wii U game.
>>320486106
Its less of a problem with the gameeven though I really dont like it that muchand more of a problem with the small installbase.No matter how good it was it was destined to not be the best selling of the series.
>>320487132
And the fact people already owned a 3DS and nobody owns a Wii U.
>>320487183
You should not be combining the numbers.
You should also not ignore the fact that the same game came out on a system with a much larger install base.
If the 3DS game didnt exist you'd see more WiiU game sales.
Fact.
>>320487153
>No one was gonna buy a WiiU for smash bros
Bullshit.
Development for Smash Bros started before Nintendo knew that the WiiU would end up selling like shit.
>>320487027
Nintendo is indeed doing more money than MS game division.
For them, XBOX One is not even a game venture but pretty much a marketing tool for MS ecosystem
>>320487027
MS games isn't especially big, since MS doesn't like to share money between activities.
>>320487153
Super Smash for 3DS and Hyrule Warriors Legends are the number 1 reason I haven't purchased a Wii U, and I'm thankful Nintendo has no confidence in their console to allow such things to happen.
>>320487109
Mario Kart is a system seller?
Maybe as a christmas gift I guess
>>320487310
the 3DS is carrying the division 2bh and that's okay
>>320487301
>If the 3DS game didnt exist you'd see more WiiU game sales.
>Fact.
But the 3DS game did exist.
And therefore, as the OP subject text says " Smash 4 for Wii U lowest selling Smash in the franchise " which is true. Of all the games in the franchise it has sold the lowest number of copies.
>>320487329
Do not underestimate Mario Kart.
Its has been bigger than main Mario games for a long time now.
>>320487310
>Nintendo is indeed doing more money than MS game division.
Right, which is why everyone in this discussion has said Microsoft as a whole, and not it's gaming division.
10 million wii u
100 million wii
4 million smash
13 million brawl
40% of wii u owners have sm4sh
13% of wii owners have brawl
Nice shitpost
>>320486496
they are the same game on two platforms
The latest installments in popular franchise have sold poorly on a console that hasn't sold very well.
That's literally all it is. Actually, I might go as far as to say that the 3DS version hurt the Wii U sales further because why buy two of the same game, especially if you already own one of the systems (since the 3DS has a larger install base)
I'm sure Mario Kart 8 also sold poorly compared to DS/Wii/7.
>>320487397
It is true. Doesnt change that the 3DS version heavily factors into that.
Refusing to acknowledge that means that you are an idiot.
Its even dumber to actually list the sales of past games because they didnt have such a scenario.
Its not comparable at all.
>>320486106
So 40% of Wii U owners have Smash 4?
That's a pretty impressive attach rate. Is this the biggest game on the system?
>>320487584
4 million is less than 13 million
>>320487693
MK7 sold twice as much as 8.
>>320487752
>>320487752
MK8 is the best selling one at somewhat less than 6mil sales.
They are close. And who knows, maybe Cloud will get it to sell more.
>>320486106
>Forgets that the 3Ds version exists
>Even removing the 3Ds sales ( stupid ) would result in 4 million units on 11 million consoles
>Compared to 13 million units on 101 million consoles
Why are /v/ shitposters so bad?
>>320487584
basically this
>>320487693
MK8 is the worst selling Mario Kart, but it's also one of if not THE best selling Wii U game.
>>320486106
>genofag this mad
>>320486106
>Honestly, what does this mean for the future?
It means WiiU is shit that no one wants to buy
>>320487584
Attach rate is irrelevant you fucking retard.
>>320487430
But not on the Wii U.
>>320487968
>Thats what idiots really believe
Jesus Christ go back to school ffs
>>320487809
>expecting sm4sh to sell 13 million when there's only 10 million sold wii u's
Don't be a faggot.
>google OPs sources
>see this
>click to verify
kill yourself
smash is one year old, brawl has the whole wii lifespan to sell.
>>320486106
Doesn't it have a ridiculous attach rate
>>320486106
>tfw own Wii U and only bought the 3DS version of Sm4sh
There's little to no chance I'll be buy the Wii U version.
>>320488045
mods should permaban anybody using thread title to post their comment.
>>320487968
how? He's asking what this means for the future as in "Smash 4 was a failure" when it's clearly not the case if almost half of the console's owners bought the game.
And he's saying that since the 3DS version sold better it could go handheld only, but the 3DS version only sold better because the 3DS sold better. The new game would be on an entirely new generation of consoles so that doesn't matter.
>>320487993
Also on the WiiU.
Mario Kart is the best selling WiiU game.
The issue is that their other big guns arent there or got sabotaged by handheld ports.
>>320488045
Of course its Reddit shitting up the board yet again.
>>320488146
>sabotaged
back to reddit with you
>>320488045
This has been going on since 2011-2012
redditors love pushing reddit topics as thread headers on 4chan.at least it creates threads that are generally on-topic, as oppose to the shitposting and off-topic threads other redditards make.
>>320486106
>october 2015
You're comparing lifetime sales of several year old games to a title that launched last year
>>320488086
Why on earth would you buy the gimped version when you have access to the real one?
The Midgar stage really highlights the difference between both versions.
>Wii U gets a fully fleshed out Midgar made of actual 3D objects
>3DS version gets a flat, 2D screenshot
>Wii U version gets detailed models of all the summons
>3DS version uses JPGS
It's embarrassing.
>>320488282
Sometimes I just cant tell with you retards.
>>320487968
Smash is not a third party multiplat, of course it matters
>>320488086
this is the stupidest thing I've heard on this board in the last month, congrats
>>320488354
Not him, but there is no reason for me to play Sm4sh outside of waiting in my car.
>>320488354
I eventually gave my copy of Sm4sh away to a friend since I wasn't all that into it.
I barely played Brawl and that should've been an indication to avoid Sm4sh.
I played and loved Melee the most, but I'm not a Project M fag nor will I ever be.
>>320486106
>Sm4sh 3DS is going to surpass memelee
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
it's like, what, 40% of Wii U owners that owns Smash? I remember seeing something similar for Melee and the Gamecube
It's not the game that's the problem (I mean, Smash games sell no matter what) but the console
It might mean they port this thing to whatever the NX is, though, which could be cool.
>Super Smash Bros. Brawl 12.93 million (October 2015)
What the fuck? How's this possible, I didn't know a single person who owned a Wii back then and I'm pretty sure it sold like ass
>>320487693
It also didn't help that the 3DS version came out 2 months before the Wii U version.
Everyone who wanted their Smash fix would have bought that version first, and would be less inclined to buy the same game again.
You guys realize a lot of people wouldn't justify buying the same game twice, and a lot of the people that have a 3ds dont have a Wii U right?
This makes perfect sense anyways, no way could you ever expect Smash for wii u to be on the same level as any other smash, because it's its own major competitor.
>>320488825
>I didnt know a single person that owned a Wii
>Wii was the best selling console last generation
>Sold 20 million unites more than Ps3 or 360
Okay and thats why personal experience should never be your only source
The Wii sold 101 million units
>>320488825
>I didn't know a single person with a wii
>>320488825
The Wii sold 101.59 million fucking units m8.
Everyone and their moms had one.
Where do you live? Bumfuckinstan?
>>320488825
>people are this sheltered and retarded
>>320488996
maybe he's european. according to those titles, wii sold less than playstation 1 and 2
>>320486106
>N64 - 5.55m
>Wii U - 4.03m
It's nothing OP, stop shitposting.
>>320488498
It IS possible to play Project M without being a faggot about it. In fact, that's what most people do.
Of course, whether or not it's worth the hassle of setting up for you is another story.
>>320486346
It's way too early in the morning for the level of dumb in this post.
>implying those groups of people are the same
>Realistically OP, a move to mobile seems likely
>Smash Bros
>Move to mobile
>Realistic
>>320489293
I'm Norwegian and just about everyone has a Wii.
>Smash for Wii U and 3DS are different games
top meme
>tfw the only thing that'll get Smash 5 is the NX
>they can't fuck and split development between two systems
>>320486106
>The 3DS version has sold more than the Wii U version and almost more than memelee
Nice, that means that we'll get another portable Smash the next generation
>>320489664
I'm finnish and no one had a wii, until Xenoblade was out then everyone got one for cheap just for that one game
>>320489741
But they need a system seller badly for the NX after the WiiU didn't do so well
They wouldn't fuck up a second time and split the game between the 3DS and NX, right?
>>320486198
Thread should have ended here.
>>320489834
>implying the NX won't be both handheld AND home console
>>320489791
I guess it's the excellent Finnish educational system. Norwegian students are dumb as bricks thanks to our politicians wrecking the school systems in the name of "innuvashun" every couple of years.
>>320489948
That's still one system
>>320489948
I wouldn't mind this as long as a combo pack was a thing.
>>320490010
It's two separate systems that play the same games.
>>320490010
That was kind of the point being made, yes, that they won't have to split game development if they do that, since it'll just be one system.
>>320489834
Well, the next portable will be more powerfull than the 3DS, so maybe the portable version wouldn't be as difficult to made as the 3DS one.
Which also means the return of the Ice Climbers and maybe the Pokémon Trainer.
Smash Brothers and Mario Kart are a really good system sellers, no matter if they get a console and a handheld version at the same time.
I really would love to see another portable Smash, to be honest.
How well a game in a series sells is directly related to how well received the previous entry in the series was. Brawl was absolute trash and a lot of people noticed this, even though Nintendo still sold a bunch of copies of it. I expect that a Smash Bros for the NX is going to do even worse based on how shit of a game both Wii U and 3DS were.
>>320486295
it also negatively impacted the fucking game.
>dev time split on two versions
>characters like Ice Climbers cut due to 3DS restrictions, characters like Olimar dumbed down thanks to it
I don't even have to like the ICs to know this is bullshit
>>320486106
The logical step is to only make a console version next time and make that console is good. Smash Bros can't sell as well if the console hasn't sold well.
Still 4 million in a year is still good.
>>320486106
When taking into account the platforms install base, it's actually the most successful.
>>320486198
>Implying that's an excuse when motherfucking Splatoon is about to eclipse it in sales figures
>>320490242
Nope. Even taking into account the size of the install base, Melee still did better than Wii U is doing.
>>320489948
Give the portable good specs, good display and a non-resistive bottom screen and I'm sold
>>320490242
Good point
>>320490126
Only if they use an actual thumbstick this time and not the circlepad.
Circlepad was never meant for that kind of action.
>>320490339
If you take into account the install base, then Wii U did better, proportionally.
3.5 out of 10 people who had a GC had Melee.
4 out of 10 people who had a Wii U had Smash 4.
>>320486738
Cloud DLC is available right now, other new characters (another FE character in Corrin from FE:Fates, and Bayonetta) are coming early next year.
>>320486106
Tatsumi Kimishima will force the next Smash game to pander to NA and EU audiences with more competitive gameplay and less weebshit characters.
>>320486106
Melee was bundled with the GameCube. I feel like you can't count it.
>>320486771
The Wii was way more affected by piracy than their other consoles. It moved a lot of hardware, but software attachment wasn't great.
>>320486719
I don't think the Wii-u would be able to handle 8 players ice climbers
>>320490770
>It moved a lot of hardware, but software attachment wasn't great.
Wasn't piracy. Was mostly moms buying it for Wii Sports and Wii Fit and never touching it again.
>>320489741
Not if it's a hybrid. You'll get both, but this time with no split development and power drawbacks.
>>320490654
Smash Wii U has a bundle. Two actually since there's one that has Splatoon too.
>>320491168
Only in Yurop. The Smash + Splatoon bundle hasn't been counted since Nintendo hasn't updated their numbers yet (last one was in Spetember).
>>320490654
>Melee was bundled with the GameCube.
4 years after its release.
>>320490320
>"eclipse it in sales figures"
>isn't even close to 4 million, didn't even sell 3 yet
>>320489948
I like it, but I don't see the point of making two different consoles with the same library.
One of them is going to overshadow the other.
>>320491583
Some people don't like handhelds but like Pokémon. Some people don't like home consoles but like say Splatoon.
Now both kinds of people can play both kinds of games.
>voids under character skirts
The one true reason it didn't sell.
It's my reason for not buying it.
What people don't realize is that the 3DS version drastically increased total sales of Smash 4. Did it lower Wii u sales? Maybe, but that's a small price to pay for millions of sales. No 3DS version would probably translate into 1-2 million more at most. The total sales of Smash 4 matters, not the individual platform sales. You'd have to be a retard like OP to argue otherwise given the development of the game. Or do you not total console sales when it comes to multiplats in general?
the next smash for nx will be smash 4 with content from both the 3ds and wiiu versions packed in with some additional content and visual upgrades
>>320491583
Biggest issue Nintendo is facing right now is that they have to supply two systems with their first party stuff while development times and costs are increasing.
Their big consoles also didnt have proper third party support since the SNES.
If they made a hybrid they could merge the library and have one supersystem that plays all Nintendo stuff. And Dragon Quest, and Monster Hunter, and all the Fatlus shit.
When you count all the DLC it likely made way more money than the others
>splitting up WiiU/3DS likely they aren't the same fucking game
>>320486346
>see two different opinions on the internet
>automatically assume its the exact same people saying it
That's autism.
>>320492029
CERO apparently forced Sakurai to do that. He expressed in an interview how stupid he thought it was that he had to make those changes
>>320490830
It would have easily. The 3DS is the one with the super shit processor, and as much as I hate to be the guy who says shit like this, Sakurai did state in an interview somewhere that the Ice Climbers were working fine on the Wii-U version.
>>320489985
Isn't that same shit happening to Finland right now though?
>>320488354
But the 3DS version doesn't require me to buy a really fucking waste of money of a console that the U ended up being.
>>320497087
But he already had a Wii U.
>>320488825
>I'm pretty sure the Wii sold like ass
>Last gen was so long people like this post.
>>320490884
The attach rate was 9 or 10, though, typical for most video game consoles.
>>320486295
Uh how didn't it?
It split the dev time up and we got a version without a story mode. Smash 4 is boring as fuck.
From a normie's perspective you have no reason to buy the wii-u version when you already have the 3DS version.
>>320497802
To be fair, that's a 1 in 10 attach rate as opposed to Melee's 1 in 5. The Wii was sold on a gimmick to non-gamers.
>>320498020
>Wii Sports
>Mario Kart Wii
>Wii Sports Resort
>New Super Mario Bros. Wii
>Wii Play
>Wii Fit
>Wii Fit Plus
>Super Smash Bros. Brawl
>Super Mario Galaxy
>Mario Party 8
These are the top sellers, is this typical for most video game consoles?
>>320486106
>console nobody owns
>game sells like junk
You don't say.
If you combine the 3DS and Wii U sales and factor in DLC, then the game was a big success for the series, Nintendo'd rather just keep Sakurai around then do some dogshit like Melee HD.
>>320486864
well im glad they got their money but I wish I got much more stages (not dlc) and game modes
>>320493240
It doesn't matter to some of the retards in the thread apparently removing one version would have been better for just a few more stages and one shitty duo of characters. Had the 3DS version not existed Smash 4 would probably have been somewhere between the original and melees numbers which would have made samurai commit sudoku for all that hard work.
>>320491515
Anon splatoon is over 3m now
>>320486106
Seeing as that means 40% of the userbase owns it that is the highest install base and will have been very profitable. Very few games can sell 4 million copies OP and it'll remain as much a part of nintendo consoles as Mario Kart.
Might as well ask this here. Is the 3DS version worth playing? I have a Wii U as well but I prefer playing games on the 3DS.
>>320486496
>it's ok when sonyponies put bloodborne twice in their "game" lists
>>320499047
Some of the stages are neat, but there's only 2 tracks per stage.
If you already have Wii U, I can't recommend it really. It's just the same game with less music and worse graphics.
>>320486106
there are no heroes
mankind is doomed
>>320487434
you'd have to live in some fantasy land if you unironically think nintendo, or hell even sony are making more profits than microsoft as a whole. when people mention microsoft or xbox on /v/ they're obviously talking about their gaming division
>>320499047
3DS version plays perfectly.
Just less resolution, but the framerates are identical.
>>320486106
Looks like you can't even read your own numbers.
That says Sm4sh has sold over 11 million copies, making it the second best selling in the series next to Brawl.
>>320500114
The 3DS version is perfect as a Smash on the go experience, and the online is very fun. There are a few cases where the frame rate drops like Olimar's Pikmin and such but that's okay. The 3D itself looks great imo, makes the battles pop a lot.
>>320489985
>in the name of "innuvashun"
You mean in the name of "alle skal med"?
>>320499105
Maybe if it were on the Vita, but Sony dropped support
>>320499105
We literally never do that.
>>320486106
>Do you think the next Smash for NX will have a different director to try and shake things up?
No. The game itself was critically acclaimed, as all smash games are. It wasn't the game. It was the platform.
When you consider the install base for the WiiU, that's actually really fantastic numbers.
It is not a smash specific phenomenom, it's an install base phenomenom.
On broad terms there are way less wiius than wiis out there.
Actually in even broader terms there just isn't as much console players nowadays.
>>320486295
I didn't buy a Wii U because an option to play Smash was made else where.
Same thing goes for Guilty Gear Xrd -SIGN-, I literally have no reason to buy a PS4 now so I won't.
Exclusives help console sales because they force people to buy the console to play the exclusives. Without that incentive, being a PC, 3DS, and Vita owner, the ONLY reason I have to own a console is to play Bloodbourne and I already played the hell out of it on my friend's PS4. Hyrule Warriors is coming to the 3DS, Bayonetta's coming to PC, why would I buy a Wii U?
>>320500828
Well, there are many good exclusives on Wii U, like Splatoon, MK 8, Yoshi's Woolly World, Xeno X, Bayo 2 (was that multiplat?), SM3DW etc. But then, it depends if you like those individual games so... if you do there's your reason.
>>320500963
Splatoon's the only one, Bayo2 is also getting a PC release with Bayo1, and I laugh at Xenoblade X.
>>320500963
you can already emulate MK8 on PC so unless you want to play online that is not even a reason to buy a Wii U anymore.
>>320500828
Xrd being on PS3 kept me from getting it on PS4 too. Plus there's no damn way I'm paying for online.
>>320501274
>Bayo2 is also getting a PC release with Bayo1
EPIC
>>320501301
At a sliky smooth 9 fps
>>320501274
>Bayo2 is also getting a PC release with Bayo1
>>320501301
>you can already emulate MK8 on PC
EAT SHIT SAKURAI
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>320486106
Sure it's sold the worst of all smash games, but it's been bought by almost half the Wii U install base. Can you really expect better numbers than that?
>>320486106
>3DS has a huge install base and Smash released earlier
>WiiU has three people owning it and Smash released later
I don't think the game is the problem man.
>>320501301
Well wy wouldn't you want to play online? I suppose you could just keep on doing the tournies over and over and over... how... fun? Well to each their own I guess. I personally would play on a T.V any day, it's more comfy (same with basically all PC games desu but whatever, let's not go there).
>>320501274
>and I laugh at Xenoblade X
But why anon?
Also, you don't seem like you really suit Nintendo if none of those games appeal to you. Their simply prime Nintendo games that are as good as what can be found on the Wii. But again, if that's your opinion, I'm not gonna change it.
Also, Zelda Wii U?
>>320502387
*they're
>>320487693
I would still call 4 miliion pretty good
>>320489738
>Ice climbers might be back
Noice
>>320486106
They really shouldn't have split the game with the 3DS. Imagine how many much Wii U they'd have sold if the 3DS version of Smash didn't exist. Imagine how much more time and resources they'd have to fine-tune the game if the 3DS version of Smash didn't exist. Imagine a full-fledged Smash Run worthy of being City Trial's successor.
>>320494691
That was before he announced 8-player Smash, which means he decided to put that feature in after the Ice Climbers were gone because the Wii-U couldn't handle sixteen Ice Climbers without slowdown.
>>320501301
Well yeah, why buy anything when you can't pirate seems to be your logic.
>But it's not piracy
It's emulating a current gen console, you aren't fooling anyone.
>>320489738
Of course they can and will. Iwata wanted Sakurai to make Smash Bros ONLY for the 3DS, it was Sakurai who got him to agree to a console version as well. With Iwata dead and sakurai not doing the fifth game, the new president will look at the sales for Smash 4 and decide that another handheld version will sell like hotcakes, and whoever does Smash 5 will likely not argue and only make a handheld version.
The Wii sold 101.59 million.
Brawl sold at 12.93 million.
So that's 12.7% of the userbase.
The Wii U has sold at about 10.73 million.
Smash sold a 4.03 mil. So that's 37.5%.
If we assume numbers here, let's use the Wii's lifetime console sales and use the Wii U's percentage of users who bought it, that's at about 38.10 million, plus the 3DS's 7.37 million. So that would give us 45.47 million.
Of course we don't consider a lot of factors, like how people who bought the 3DS version would not buy the Wii U version, or that the people who bought a Wii U aren't big casuals like the majority of the Wii's userbase, among others.
>>320501301
>15 fps
>black screens everywhere
>Inminent cease&desist from Nintendo
>playable
>>320503019
>we almost didn't have a console version of smash
holy shit what's wrong with these people
Who the fuck would want the inferior Wii U version when many more people own a 3DS
>>320503154
>Many people own the inferior version so it's better
>>320486106
Gee, I wonder if that could be because you're measuring 13 years of Melee sales, 6 years of Brawl sales, but just barely over one year of 4 sales.
Yes, the handheld version currently has significantly higher numbers than its home console counterpart. It was also released several months prior, which I still think was a stupid decision on Nintendo's part, as not many people wanted to buy two copies of the same game. No single game could have done a better job of moving Wii U units than Smash could have if they hadn't blown their load early with the 3DS release.
>>320503113
Actually a better example would be the gamecube.
GC sold 21.74 million, and 37% of that is around 8 million not including the 3ds versions so smash 4 actually sold well.
>>320503154
Selling more =/= superior.
>>320503113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thfKq71cNZM
>>320503259
No, the 3DS version is better unless you're going to be doing tournaments.
>>320503154
>Hd
>People can actually play on one system without having to all own seperate copies of smash
>More stages and music
>Inferior
>>320503154
Town & City
>>320503338
How is it better,retard?
>>320503338
better how? it looks worse, worst version to gather friends to play with, it plays with worse controls, has shitty online, has less content, etc. the only real plus it has is portability
>>320503520
>has less content
What?
>>320503331
>Namefag
>Tripcode
>>>/out/
>>320503624
Less stages,less modes,less trophies and all that.
>>320503624
Stop
In what world is over 4,000,000 a bomb, even if it's less than its predecessors (because the Wii U sold poorly)?
4.03 million is double Bloodborne's 2,000,000.
>>320503470
It's better because that's the version he owns.
3DS version is okay but two songs per stage is boring. Also the online community is way more cancerous on 3DS than the Wii U.
OP is a faggot. Counting Sm4sh seperate because it got released on two consoles.
OP. Please tell me why CoD BO3 is not a PS4 exclusive? I mean, it sold the most on there and the sales for any other console is kinda shit compared to that. Yet, the companies still count the total sales that actually matters. It only tells which console is preferred. Wii U has much less sales than 3DS, so it is obvious it has less Sm4sh sales aswell.
>>320486106
How strange, the oldest one has sold the most and the newest the least
>>320500517
>we
>>320503679
Sure, but it got far superior single-player content instead of that (what modes does it miss?). I'm not really sure if I care enough about trophies to play that fucking board game instead.
>>320487968
stop shitposting
>>320486106
>Release the 3DS version several months prior to the Wii U version
>There are more 3DS units than Wii U units already in the hands of consumers at this point
>Most people have to purchase an entirely new home console in order to get at the Wii U edition of Smash 4
>They don't want to buy a second copy of the same game even if they do have a Wii U already
>The exclusive mode in the Wii U version analogous to the 3DS version's Smash Run is objectively garbage in comparison (who the fuck has EVER played Smash Tour for any reason other than to clear a Challenge or two?)
>Claim you're sorting the version-exclusive stages by whether the game they're based on was originally a handheld or home console title, but then put stages like Gerudo Valley and Magicant on the 3DS only, just because they happen to have had recent or semi-recent re-releases/remakes on handheld systems
I don't think that splitting the game between a handheld and a home console was a good idea in the first place (especially when it resulted in roster restrictions such as Ice Climbers getting cut due to their inability to run on the 3DS). However, even if Nintendo was absolutely convinced that Smash needed to be on a handheld, staggering the releases of the two versions and not having them come out simultaneously was THE WORST decision that they possibly could have made. Smash 4 should have been the system-moving killer app for the Wii U, but because Nintendo had already jumped the gun with the 3DS version of the game months earlier, its impact was significantly lessened.
>>320486106
>11 million is least
Can't expect /v/irgins into math though
>>320486106
Every time I see that fucking costume I want to punch Sakurai in his face
>>320504525
Can't expect them into reading comprehension either, apparently.
>>320504593
I know. Even a costume is more trouble then Geno is worth.
>>320503662
...Did you quote the wrong post?
>>320504593
>Being a Genofag
>>320504685
go away newfag
>>320504685
I quoted the right post
>Calling a namefag a tripfag
>Being a newfag
>>>/lgbt/
>>320504787
>>320504835
Oh, sorry, I didn't bother watching the video in the post you quoted. It looked like you were accusing that poster of being a namefag & tripfag. Carry on.
>>320486807
Let's see the stats, everyone I know or see owns all the dlc so
>>320503019
Sakurai stated in an interview that he will always be working on smash
Idk what you mean
It means the Wii-U has a low install base, every game sold low on the Wii U, except games that didn't have previous iterations.
Smash will continue, although I don't see how they could increase the roster, too much work.
They'll have to fold BACK the roster next time, or else re-use stuff. Sakurai WILL be involved. He recently said that he doesn't know if the team could do the next one without him.
Brawl has double the sales not because it's a great Smash game, but because Wii sold 120 million units or something insane like that.
Use your head OP.
>>320486106
>This game didn't sell as well as the highest selling fighting game ever
Shocker
>>320506212
>fighting game
>>320505839
>They'll have to fold BACK the roster next time, or else re-use stuff.
That is exactly what everyone said during the development of Smash 4. Do you not remember seeing that unsourced quote from Sakurai supposedly saying he was going to have to limit the roster for 4 in comparison to previous entries in the series? And yet, Smash 4 ended up having the biggest roster so far.
Even if we assume that only, say, three-quarters of the characters in Smash 4 make it into the next entry (so that would be about 43 or 44 characters out of 58), just think about all the characters that people thought were sure shots in 4 who didn't make it in, like Ice Climbers, K. Rool, Waluigi, Chrom, Wolf, and so on. Between that, newer characters whose games come out in between Smash releases (Inklings?), and additional third party options (Simon Belmont?) there are PLENTY of options for Smash 5 to easily have as big of a roster as 4 has.
All just spitballing, obviously, but you see my point.
>>320486346
>7.37 mil and 4.03 mil respectively is now "selling like dogshit"
Way to go above and beyond, Mr Shitposter
>>320506631
>That is exactly what everyone said during the development of Smash 4
Brawl had a lot but Sm4sh has like 60 characters after DLC.
And they DID fold back, in small ways.
>>320506435
The only Smash Bros. that is a fighting game is Smash 4, because it has Ryu in it.
>>320486106
the 3ds version and the wii u version are the same its only a graphical upgrade
>>320486106
Gee, i dont know maybe because the 3ds version was released 1 month before the wii u version for 20$ less with better modes and everyone then already knew it was shit after the 3ds release.
>>320506435
its a casual fighting game but its still apart of the genre
They couldn't have chosen a worse director for this series than Sakurai
>>320507070
this tbhfam
hope we get someone less biased who doesn't hate the fans for smash 5
It's a mixture of weak Wii U sales and the existence of the 3DS version
Just going Wii U would make it a console pusher. Instead most opted for the cheaper, and released earlier, version. There's not really even any modes or characters in Wii U version to entice people to get both, especially as Mewtwo was only a timed deal
>Make a game to push console sales
>Release it on the handheld that's kicking every next gen console's shit in a month before said-console release
They didn't think this through, did they?
>>320506714
We lost the dedicated story mode, for instance.
>>320507915
I think they DID think about it.
They wanted extra 3DS sales.
Smash devotees were always gonna get both, but people who would only buy 1 are people who would buy the 3DS version most likely.
>>320487109
it's still long term after the DLC
Any confirmation on what type of Mii Fighter the Ashley costume is for? The staff makes it look like swordsman but it'd make more sense as a gunner shooting projectiles.
It would be interesting to know how active online is for both versions of Smash4 most of the people I know brought both and haven't touched their 3ds version since the WiiU one came out.
>>320508957
It is a swordsman
>>320486106
>a one year old game has less sales than games that have existed for years
No way
>>320508241
A sad loss, but the posts I was referencing specifically talked about how the ROSTER for 4 would supposedly be smaller than Brawl's. It wasn't. That's my point.
>>320508345
>They wanted extra 3DS sales.
But why? 3DS doesn't need the boost to stay relevant and it already had fucking MH4U, Yokai Watch, and fucking ORAS coming out in the Fall season along with Smash. If they released the Wii U game first, they would have gotten the people who would have bought it anyway and while getting others to cave in and buy a Wii U, especially over the holiday season. How retarded would one have to be to take one of the strongest consoles sellers in the last 20 years and release it on another platform that's already doing great almost two months earlier? They must have been delusional if they thought that SMM would have taken Smash's place. Thank God that Splatoon was an actually successful new IP or 2015 would have been a total bust for Wii U.
>>320509885
>But why?
More $.
Again, think of it this way.
>50 million install base
>10 million install base
>many people own the former and not the latter
>why would they release a game for the massive install base too?
For cash man. Nobody DIDN'T buy the Wii U version because a 3DS version existed.
The Wii-U version is better to play (although Corneria, Gerudo Valley and Smash Run are good 3DS features).
Devotees were always gonna get both. People who don't like handhelds get the Wii-U version, big fans who can only afford one get the Wii-U version but a HUGE audience on 3DS gets the only version they can play.
>>320510089
The smart thing to do would have been to release the Wii U version first, rather than the 3DS version. That way, they could have tried to spur some more Wii U sales before releasing the version for the platform that already had a higher install base.
By releasing the 3DS version first, they lost a lot of potential sales of the Wii U version (even among pre-existing owners of the console), because people who already had a 3DS said "I want this now and I don't want to buy a second copy of the same game later."
>>320510436
Not really because the WiiU version is superior the only reason I brought the 3DS version was because it came out first and I was itching to play, In your scenario I would have never brought the 3DS version.
>>320510436
>The smart thing to do would have been to release the Wii U version first, rather than the 3DS version
Absolutely no argument there but the Wii-U one probably required more work.
>>320510675
Yeah, that's my point. As I said, most people didn't want to buy a second copy of the same game later.
But even if you disregard the possibility that Nintendo could have sold more Wii U consoles by releasing that version of Smash first... Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't the Wii U version cost $10 more than the 3DS version? If so, releasing the Wii U version first would still have made Nintendo more money than releasing the 3DS version did, among users who only bought the game for one platform.
>>320509316
So I'm going to be beating people with a staff?
>>320512041
lewd
>>320512041
Knowing you, you'll just be beating your staff.
>>320486106
4 million is really good considering the Wii U has only sold 10 million or something to that number. Pretty high attach rate.
>>320486496
>DIFFERENT GAMES REEEEEEEEE
![Tiger-StreetFighter2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GAM5amd.jpg "Tiger-StreetFighter2[1].jpg")
>>320486574
This. It's fucking inconceivable. Imagine if half of the new mario game was only playable on iPhone, or if street fighter 2 was neutered for this. That's what Smash 3DS is.
