C'mon guys, it's not THAT bad.
Better than8, 9 and 10anyway.
This is the part where I leave /v/ to go throw up
It was great.
>>320482972
Nah op it is pretty poor and most definitely not better than any of the games you listed, neither in terms of concept nor its execution. It just runs on stronger hardware so everything is prettier.
>8
Yes, it's better than 8. A pile of shit is better than 8
>9 and 10
Nope
>>320483429
Name one true flaw.
>you can't
>>320482972
>>320483675
>shit characters
>boring gameplay that changes from the series for the sake of changing instead of for the sake of fun
>mediocre music
>snail story
>hallways
>dumbed down sphere grid system
sazh was the only "okay" thing about the game
>>320483997
>opinion
>opinion
>opinion
>opinion
>opinion
>opinion
Yep, no true flaws there.
Try again.
>>320484086
if i can take your argument and apply it to defending bad rats, then you're doing it the opposite of right.
>>320482972
>better than 9
bruh
I'm a little under 2 hours into it and It's not so bad. It's clearly driven by its story, which is a good thing because that's the only reason I even play vidya. Right now my only major gripe is that Hope is an annoying pussy bitch.
>better than 8, 9 and 10
No, fuck you.
But I agree, it's not that bad.
Though I'm not interested in ever playing it again and whenever I do I just watch the story in movie format on Youtube.
>>320484484
He grows out of it
if you care about how the characters will develop, then it's very enjoyable.
Every character arc ends nicely and the crew has nice chemistry afterwards.
>>320483081
I told you about those SE shills and weeb casuals man.
>Lightning will never force you to duck penis
>>320483997
>boring gameplay that changes from the series for the sake of changing instead of for the sake of fun
The entire point of the series is change for the sake of change senpai. And with all of its flaws, it still manages to shit on other FF games in terms of execution.
Is she best girl?
>>320484946
No
Fang is easily better
Lebreau is best girl
>>320484946
I'm so fucking glad she basically dies
It's just a shame she does and/or says anything before that point
I am Australian so I can tell you without being blinded by "OMG ACCENT" that her voice is incredibly annoying and her acting is worse
>>320486005
>playing it in English in the first place
its not bad but its not really worth playing.
It's ok. The biggest problem is that it leaves a very bad first impression.
At first you get mad at hallways and then when the game gets open 30 hours in you suddenly get overwhelmed and feel like everything before was just a 30 hour tutorial/introduction.
It's like you are playing two separate games.
>>320482972
>8
Yes, even fucking 2 is better than 8.
>9
Hell the fuck no.
>10
No, but it comes pretty close.
>>320489001
>Hell the fuck no.
9 is easily one of the worst installments
Definitely the worst of the PS1 era
>>320489001
>2 is better than 8
Calm down there spoony
>>320489058
Just because 9fags are cancerous hipster faggots it doesn't detract from the quality of the game itself.
>game is shit
>everyone hates it
>game comes out on PC
>WOW GUYS IT'S NOT THAT BAD I ACTUALLY LIKE IT A LOT :)
I want PCfags to finally get some JRPGs so they can shut the fuck up and stop clinging to those godawful ones they currently have.
>>320489102
Spoony rated 8 higher than 10 and 13. He's also an unstable emotional trainwreck of a manchild, but we already knew that.
>>320488441
Also the dialogue is really awful even by Square's horrendously low standards.
>>320489001
Ok I need the sauce on this. Tineye and Google have failed.
>>320489164
>Least customizable party since FF4
>Slowest game in the whole series
>Most forgettable antagonist around
It's just not that great. Let's not forget dozens of minor annoyances like stealing that barely works or trance mechanics in general.
>>320482972
>Better than 8, 9 and 10
Jesus, neo-/v/.
>>320489560
I'm in a generous mood so here:
http://barakkka.deviantart.com/art/FFXIII-sisters-in-love-310370677
>>320489582
I still would rate it much higher than FF8.
I like how 13 got god damn shat on when it first came out but now that it's on PC, "it's not that bad guys!"its shit
It's definitely better than VIII or X but fuck you: IX is great.
>>320482972
True it's better than 10. Didn't play 8 and 9
>Better than 8, 9 and 10 anyway.
i'll act like an adult and respect your opinion but i won't like it
>>320482972
>Better than 8
They're about the same
>9 and 10
Fuck outta here nigga.
It is not just plain shit, it's so shit that I will never touch another final fantasy product ever again
I never understood why X gets a pass for being shit
>>320492032
Because underage kiddies think it's a good game because it was their first FF
It's disgusting and FFX fans should all die.
>>320492032
X was the start of me losing interest in Final Fantasy but XIII is when it completely dropped off
Not that FF has ever been the most creative RPG on the block but everything past X just feels like random anime game #102
8 could have been better and I'll argue that 10 was better.
Still 13 doesn't deserve the hate it gets.
>>320492385
I'd say that shit started with VII honestly, though it probably started with the SNES titles but I can't be sure since I never played them. I love FFVII but it was definitely the beginning of the end for the series.
I had never played an FF game before it, got about 4 hours in or something, then couldnt be fucked anymore.
You'd get the same experience from watching it on youtube.
>>320483997
Sazh is almost worth playing the game for...
Almost.
>>320482972
I liked it. Also Lightning is CUTE
only waifufags take this game and its spin-offs seriously
prove me wrong
>you can't
Convince me to dig XIII back out and finish it. I made it about halfway through and said fuck it.does Hope ever grow up in sequels and end up with Lightning?
Do any Final Fantasy games take place in the same world or are they all completely separate? Excluding obvious sequels like XIII-2 and LR
>>320495534
Some of them take place in Ivalice but that's about it.
>>320495534
There are a few that do, but in general no.
A lot of people think that VII takes place waaaaay after X and X-2.
>>320482972
10 > 9 > 8 > 13
>>320482972
here is yoursagereply,
now get the fuck out.
XIII was bad.
XIII-2 was good.
LR:XIII was great.
>>320482972
>>320482972
>Better than 8
Yes.
>9
No.
>10
Yes.
This game isn't even bad and doesn't deserve the hate it gets.
lightning stinks
>>320496029
I forgot how cute Lumina is. I should probably replay LR.
>>320482972
It actually isn't that bad of a game, it just suffers from characters you don't really give a shit aboutbesides Sazhand a battle system that's mind numbingly dull until later in the game.
It's not better than 9 or 10 though.
>>320482972
It's a good game, just not a good FINAL FANTASY game.
>mfw I see a FFXIII love thread
>>320496146BWARRRRRRRP
>>320496196
I wonder what her armpits smell like.
>>320496673
the autismo bitch reeks, dude
>>320483675
The game's combat is incredibly shallow for far too long. The game only really starts getting interesting gameplay-wise about the 70% point.
Which is like 30-40 hours into the game.
The entire game up to that point plays like a giant tutorial. One that is not nearly as needed as they thought because 13-2 got to engame 13 level fairly fast.
Even then, once the battle system gets fully fleshed out, the plot slows to a crawl and all the characters become one-liner spewing idiots. The gameplay is more interesting, but the plot no longer remains so. All incentive to keep playing after that point drops off the face of cocoon and the game becomes grinding until the end.
Most of the characters are boring, aside from Sazh and Fang, who are enjoyable.
>>320484765
>in terms of execution
No it doesn't.
It's pretty, but shallow as a puddle.
>>320496740
>you will never lick Lightning's smelly armpits clean
>>320482972
>God Tier
IV, VI, Tactics
>Demigod Tier
VII, V, IX, XII, FFTA
>Ok Tier
X, III, I, FFTA2
>Meh Tier
XIII, II, VIII
Not counting the MMOs
>>320482972
XIII's biggest strength was its aesthetics. I actually liked the paradigm system and my only problem with it was the bullshit "if the player character gets knocked out its an automatic game over". Where XIII failed was its linearity. Not that the whole game needed a huge sandbox, but they could have created larger levels instead of just hallways.
Also, best character
>>320495375
He matures later in the game and XIII-2. And it's only implied vaguely at the end of LR.
>>320496598
Literally perfect.
>>320497267
>best character
He's the only good character in that entire game.
>>320496598
>Mfw I see a thread full of people with shit taste
Am I suppose to be constantly switching paradigms so I can always have a chance to increase my stagger build up or something? I hate this gameplay style.
HUSTLE UP WITH THE GREENS AND LET HIM GO
>>320497692
Best chocobo theme in the series
I hope we get this as the theme for the final race in a chocobo racing competition in the VII remake
>>320497656
Rav com rav when you want to stagger
Com com rav on a single staggered opponent
Med sab syn for buffs
Com sen med for easy healing
Med med med if you REALLY need it
There. That's every paradigm you'll ever want.
So deep
>>320497798
>best
I think you meant funniest.
>>320497692
>all those booty blasted plebs that couldn't ride that chocobo
>>320497267
Agreed. What does it say about the game when the only likable character is the token black guy?
>>320482972
True, it wasn't that bad.
But it wasn't better than those. Better than 2, 5, 8 and 12, for sure tho'.
>>320498095
Nothing, but it says something about you when you make comments like that.
>>320497267
What makes him so great compared to the rest of the cast ?
>>320498196
Let me guess. What I said was problematic?
>>320498171
>5 and 12
I don't even like 12 but fuck, that's wrong.
And 8 is debatable. 8 at least has more depth in its leveling systems.
>>320498171
>better than 5
I agree with the rest of your list.
>>320498254
Ayup
>>320482972
9 actually had a world map and was really open so no
Liked:
Tactics, VII, X
Disliked:
IX, X-2, XIII
Those are also the only games I've played.
Recommend me something. Doesn't necessarily have to be a FF game, other JRPG series acceptable.
>>320486140
>playing it at all
>>320482972
X is more linear than XIII is and its characters way more cringe worthy.
Better battle and level system though.
>>320484484
battles get really fun when you get the magic powers and bullshit
it DOES take a while to actually get fun but everyone who played it judged it by the first few minutes and to hivemind the opinions of /v/ and other social media
Nobody liked these games
pc gets them years later
>"i-its not bad guys"
>>320497692
STAND BACK, STAND CLEAR AS HE PUTS ON A SHOW
>>320498251
Everyone else is just an anime trope.
>Whiny teenager who has to grow up
>Optimistic hero man
>Cold but sensitive heroine
Sazh was just a single dad who wanted nothing more than getting his son back, but kept running into more trouble. He's probably the only character in the game that someone could actually sympathize with
>>320498379
well, liking x makes you a pleb, but try 6 anyway
>>320498351
You realize how out of place you are here right?
>>320498379
Lost Odyssey.
Last Remnant on PC
>>320498294
>better than 9
Please, no memes.
>>320498171
Shows you have shit taste. You choose 3 over 5 when 5 improved the class system in every way possible. There's no way 13 is better than job class ff. There's no depth
>>320498251
You played in English and he's the only good voice actor in the bunch.
Snow and Fang were OK. Lightning was almost decent.
Let's just pretend Hope and Vanille don't exist in English.
Lightning and Hope had their characters raped by bad localization. Bad translation and bad voice acting completely destroyed them.
>>320498440
Nigger I played 45 hours of that shitfest.
It ONLY starts getting interesting in chapter 13 which is LIKE 30 OR40 HOURS IN
It's not good, dude.
>>320498392
>X
>can walk from besaid to zanarkand whenever you want
>XIII
>can't go back anytime save for final dungeon back to gran pulse
>>320498505
Anope
>>320483662
My nigger.
>>320498440
>battles look really pretty when you get the magic powers and bullshit
FTFY
>>320498792
Oh right, a ruseman. Well, you got me.
I've only played X and IV so I still consider myself a newcomer to the series. Is VI a good game for a newbie like me to play next ?
>>320499012
If you played 4 you'll feel right at home with 6
But everyone knows 7 is babby's first Ff.
>>320498440
>everyone who played it judged it by the first few minutes and to hivemind the opinions of /v/ and other social media
>XIII
>Better than anything
Even XIII-2 is better and that's still shit.
My first ff was 4 and that one is my absolute fave, 7 is a meme, 8 is OK, 9 is OK, 10 is OK but cringy at times, and 13 is the worst game I've ever played, the game pretty much plays itself, your a fucking moron if you like it.
13 is my favorite FF game. Long time fans who have played since 1 or whatever, I can see why you don't like it, but I started with 7 and I can't say that playing these games wasn't a complete chore until probably 12. 13 exceeded my expectations, and really entertained me. I was drawn in much more by the context of the game (the world, the cocoon/pulse connection, the government, the Fal'cie & L'cie stuff) and I really enjoyed playing it just to get more answers or figure out just what the hell the "rules" of this world are.
I can really understand how to some it was just confusing or opaque, but I liked that the characters never really stopped and did a bunch of exposition. Things just revealed themselves within the context of plot. It's like opening a fantasy book set on a completely different planet and only learning about its place in the rest of the universe and its gods or magic in increments.
>>320498379
If you liked Tictacs, you'll probably like V.
>>320499474
You fell for their trick.
You don't like video games at all, do you?
It is that bad tbqh family
I did all the Cieth stone missions with 5 stars after I was told mastery of the battle system would be fun
It wasn't and the whole game was massively disappointing and boring
>''It gets better when all the party members get together!''
>It doesn't
LIARS
>>320483662
>10 is better than 8
>>320499951
It is though.
>>320499951
It is.
>>320483081
And don't come back
>>320482972
10 is the reason why 13 even exists. It started the lazy linear trend. Such a drastic departure from 9 but SE was obsessed with movies at that time.
>>320499951
The only reason I like X more than XIII is because Brotherhood is such a baller design.
>>320500062
>>320500112
No not really, only if you like HAHAHAHAHA. Faggots.
>>320500236
That's a fair assessment. I feel like 10 is the resident evil 4 of the series. Great game, but it was the start of a number of bad trends for the entire series.
>>320500236
Is it really a trend if X and XIII are the only purely linear games?
>>320500328
Cool argument buddy. Same can be applied to 8.
>No not really, only if you like "whatever..." Faggots.
>>320498716
Chapter 13 was boring as fuck and was when i started skipping as much fights as possible
>>320500484
Here's your reply
>>320483662
This. 13 was an incredibly boring and linear piece of garbage, but it is difficult for a game to be worse than 8. The only good thing about 8 was the triple triad.
>>320499867
>''It gets better once you reach pulse''
>it doesn't
>>320482972
Nice bait
All three of the FFs you listed blow this one out of the water
>>320500328
>I've never played FFX
Nice post brah. But you were just pretending to be retarded weren't you.
>>320500328
I still don't understand why people still complain about this. The context around it makes perfect sense.
Tidus starts doing a retarded fake laugh to show Yuna how easy it is to "laugh it off", everyone around him is like "wow, you sound like a giant fag". Yuna decides "this is super retarded, but I guess I'll give it a shot anyway", and they fake laugh together. After doing it for a couple seconds, they break into real laughter because it's just so dumb.
I feel like anyone who didn't understand this scene has literally never had a friend or shared an awkward, but funny, moment with anyone.
>>320501218
They just watched the scene on youtube
>years later people still use the HAHAHAHA argument without actually knowing the context
Goddamn, even my 10 years old self knew it was supposed to be awkward and ironic.
>>320500790
>>320501218
Fell for the bait
>>320499681
I love video games! I understand though that the series has, since X, left its RPG roots behind. That's a good thing, though. For me, anyway.
I didn't read any reviews on the game since I missed its release by like 4 years (first picked it up in Jan of 2014), but I heard the soundtrack and loved it, so I decided I'd get both XIII and XIII-2 at once and try to beat them before Lightning Returns was released. I pretty much went whole hog into it without reading anything, and I wasn't disappointed. Everything felt new and shiny and cool, and after I beat XIII and started 2, the complete shift in story and gameplay made the experience feel even more fresh.
LR was and still is a fantastic game, too. After I started XIII-2, I posted on /v/ about it and found out that this board as a rule seems to loathe pretty much all FF games, with XIII being the latest and thus worst. It really surprised me. After reading all the criticism, I was really amazed that /v/ also hated Lightning Returns, too. That game seemed to be a perfect response to any critics of XIII and XIII-2. No hand holding, open world, difficult, and a really fresh and fun combat system. The game tells you very little about how to play, and I assumed that the critics here would have enjoyed that. I don't really come here because I agree with general opinion of 4chans users though. I like the disagreement because it forces me to really look at why I like the games I like.
>>320501457
It also means you like dick
>>320501218
It does make sense.
Holy fuck was it awkward playing it as a teen and your parents walked in your room while it was happening.
>>320501457
>I understand though that the series has, since X, left its RPG roots behind.
Explain.
>>320500790
>>320501218
I have played them actually, I just don't think it's better than 8 or 9, that's all.
>>320501504
You're so lewd, anon.
>>320482972
>Better than 8, 9 and 10
fucking kill yourself
>>320501639
O-oh senpai~
>>320501630
But blitz ball was fun as fuck.
>>320501369
It's not bait. People genuinely hate it.
Just like people genuinely think Lightning Returns is a bad game, when it's one of the best action RPGs of 2014.
If you took the LR gameplay and renamed all the characters, /v/ would cum all over it.
>fully customizable combat system
>muh perfect blocks
>waifuposting bait with color coordinated outfits and accessories
The only thing missing to make it /v/'s GOTY is a titty and ass slider.
>>320501794
Only after it started making sense. Which is long after the mandatory blitzball
Most people don't play it after that part.
FF13 is barely better than Star Ocean 4, which is one of the worst games ever made
>>320501218
>I feel like anyone who didn't understand this scene has literally never had a friend or shared an awkward, but funny, moment with anyone.
Where do you think we are?
>>320501968
Woah, I don't really pay attention to the FF series, does it really feature action and rpg elements with costumes to dress up in? Because that sounds like heaven.
>>320482972
/v/ is full of shit opinions like yours, i am not surprised.
You start the game and it seems pretty good. The opening cutscene is terrific and the music and visuals for the first few battles is fantastic. Then after you complete Hanging Edge the combat stays quite repetitive for another 2 hours until you're given the ability to change paradigms. This seems quite exciting at first but then you realize that many class abilities are locked to the Crystarium system. So you're stuck switching between fixed paradigms and limited abilities for two characters and this actually goes on for around 6 more hours until a third character joins the groups and you have a few more abilities and paradigms. Meanwhile the game is basically you watching the occasional cutscene, moving through the game world and listening to the characters bitch and moan while using world terminology you have to consult a codex to understand. There's no variation. It's you just moving down a hall battling monsters for 15 minutes and then getting a cutscene or boss battle. I suppose you also have you also have character summons but they get useless very quickly.
Finally around the 10th hour you have full party control and can customize paradigms and character combinations as you see fit. This is where the game improves but only slightly because you need to spend another couple of hours getting to Pulse. The characters at least stop bitching at each other.
Pulse is where the game shows a fairly decent improvement though it is rather short lived. You have the ability to move around a much larger area but you'll quickly notice it's gated and there are some areas which will completely fuck you up without leveling. There's also the cieth stone side quests which are more or less killing a monster or two scattered throughout Pulse 50 odd times. You can only progress so far with that until you get wrecked. Pulse is also the first place where you can actually afford to upgrade your weapon too which is nice.
CONTINUED
>>320502124
I mean, I made friends with the other nerds. It was pretty easy when highschool segregates smart kids into honors/AP classes. Literally never interacted with normies except for gym and sports. That's also how I got peer-pressured into a crippling life-long anime addiction.
>>320502172
>what is ffx-2
>>320496029
>XIII was a dissapointment but still ok
>XIII-2 was complete shit
>LR was cancerous and should have never existed
fixed
>>320501608
I think that the way the series has handled character progression, classes, stats, etc.--which to me are core pieces of what RPGs are about--has definitely been streamlined to a degree that either leaves things completely open (like 12 where basically any character can play any class) or where progress is fairly linear (like 13, where the only really decision to make in the crystarium is in the post game, and it's really just "Do I want to spend points here first or second" so you're really just picking the order, rather than making a decision). I feel like with games like 7 or 9, or especially the older FF titles, things were much more stat oriented, and certain characters served uses better than others, or there were ways of making uniquely leveled versions of characters to serve niche or mixed uses. Much more like the pen and paper RPG stuff.
I guess what I mean is the there aren't thread dedicated to building characters anymore. You only have 6 or 8 characters that each really serve just one or a very few uses in battle, and you really only need to level or develop like 4 people tops.
>>320502037
It was one of the redeeming qualities of the game, also, HAHAHA.
>>320482972
This game was so fucking boring I dropped it in the first hour.
>>320502369
Ok, but every character in ff13 is easily hateable
>muh 'a targets a target'
No duh bitch
>>320502352
>>320502369
(continued) Fundamentally though, I don't really like a lot of those pen and paper stats management games. I get bored with it. So, for me, the streamlining of character progression makes it more fun. I like managing equipment much more than I like looking at 20 different stats where I can spend or not spend points. It's a bit like how newbies to the Souls series will usually come in and ask, "Wait what does this stat even DO?"
>>320502308
After you get strong enough you march back to Cocoon and spend a few hours battling your way to Orphan. This is arguably the best part of the game as your combat knowledge is put to the test. You work your way through a twisted puzzle environment and finally arrive at Orphan, kick his ass and then witness one of the least satisfying endings in video game history complemented by My Hands as if it was made out to be Avatar. And that sort of sums it actually. It's a game which like Avatar is mostly visual and very little substance.
The end game consists of clearing out the last of the Cieth stone missions, continuing to upgrade your weapons and characters and possibly unlocking the Chocobos. It's fairly pointless as there's only one boss in the Cieth missions which you can't 5 star without the use of autobattle.
The combat system was the game's greatest asset and it wasn't properly utilized till the 10th hour by which time it was too late. It's a terrible game overall.
>>320502317
>what is reading my post
What makes Sazh's character so good? is it just cause he's good in comparison to the rest of the faggos?
>>320502172
Yes. Ask yourself if Lightning normally wears glasses. You can also change a lot of the colors on the outfits. It's pretty hard to find a good match for the weapons/shields unless it's late-game and you've bought/found all the weapons.
My shitty scans of the artbook is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5738893/ff%20LR.zip and also here: http://imgur.com/a/dRA0B
Why does Lightning Returns have such a god-tier soundtrack? And the other games too? Like, oh, my gods. Square put their finest and most talented musicians and artists on a waifushit game and a sequel to the most loathed FF in history.
Is Final Fantasy 8 actually a bad game? I'm new to the series and was planning to play 8 solely for Laguna.
>>320502836
He feels like an actual person instead of an anime stereotype.
The entire trilogy isfunand the gameplay improved with each installment while the story only got worse.
>>320502917
its great, 8 is a bad game is a meme
>>320502909
Nice waifu. Post more cute outfits.
>>320502892
Aww yiss Now I want a PS3. I can deal with looking like ass throughout the game, I play Monster Hunter so it's no biggie.
>>320498440
>everyone who played it judged it by the first few minutes and to hivemind the opinions of /v/ and other social media
FUCK
YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>>320502917
Trust me, Laguna is the only good thing that came out of Dawson's Creek VIII
>>320502836
He's the only one that feels relatable or human in any capacity. So of course they regulate him to DLC in the sequel to focus more on the obnoxious child grown up and somebody whos barely even a character.
>>320502909
13's soundtrack is complete white-noise though. Same with 13-2.
>>320503052
Quistis and the ED song are good. That makes it three.
>>320502917
8 is not a bad game at all, personally it has the best atmosphere and soundtrack
>>320502836
Sazh's excellence as a character can probably best be summed up as "relatable". He tends to be a fish out of water: frantic, fearful, anxious, skeptical. He is motivated by his attachment to his son, which is handled in a refreshingly restrained but emotional way. He nearly gives up in one scene, and it's easy to relate to why he would. He isn't edgy or cold, or weak and helpless, but he manages to come across as a person who pushes forward, past his own self doubt, because he believes in what he's doing.
His optimism makes him lovable.
>>320502917
Hating on 8 is a meme, it's a fun game.
>>320502917
It's not the worst thing in the world, but expect to stay on a boss or uncommon enemy for an hour so you can draw 99 magicks.
Protip: Never use Double/Triple, Cerberus summon gives them both to you.
>>320503163
13s soundtrack is white noise?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW9Alr38Ha0
u wot
>>320482972
>FF13
>One of the greatests blunders in history of video gaming
>one of the most poorly written stories ever penned
>one of the most boring, stale combat system ever devised
>Literally corridor simulation
>Better than 8,9 or 10
>better than anything
Go the fuck back to bed Toriyama. You are not fooling anyone.
>>320503293
>but expect to stay on a boss or uncommon enemy for an hour so you can draw 99 magicks.
These are the kind of people who dislike 8. They never figured out that you can use the refine abilities to get magic easy as fuck right in the start of the game.
>>320503039
You didnt even beat the tutorial man. Cmon.
>>320503476
Yup, true that, man I feel like bustin out my ps2 to play ff8 again.
>>320502352
this, thanks for being normal anon
>>320503476
Yeah, those are the kind of people who take the easy way out of getting max stats. I'm not leveling anything until I get to the Cactuars so I can reach 255 attack with STR-Bonus.
Use your fucking brain.
>>320503345
I remember when I reached the steps up from Lake Bresha and the music changed to the super comfy Gapra Whitewood music at the temple area, and it had that far away, low angle shot as you left the white and blue crystal and came across the stoney green. I poured myself a glass of good sherry and loved every bit of it.
>>320502998
There's way more where that came from.
>>320503163
>13's soundtrack is complete white-noise though.
Well, I guess it's a bit heavy on ambiance-
>Same with 13-2.
What the fuck?
>>320503515
Almost 20 hours of tutorials. Fucking christ main reason I hate the game.
>>320503806
I recognize that one. You've definitely seen me around before.
>>320503515
>tfw tutorial is the whole game
>>320503027
It just released on pc
>>320503345
This exact part actually
>>320503039
Legit, the final boss is the end of the tutorial.
It's a shame I didn't get far in the endgame, because it was really picked up and you could appreciate the great combat system.
>>320503361
>toriyama
Excuse me?
>>320503704
Leveling? Who said anything about leveling? You get AP from bosses, no exp. You can also exploit Seifer and farm ap with him to keep your level low. Then there's the Card ability which also wont give exp.
How about you use your brain?
>>320503515
>11 hours
>You didn't beat the tutorial
HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE PROBLEM IN THIS?!
10 was horrible dogshit, but 8 and 9?
C'mon son.
>>320503991
Sentai Lightning would've been neat.
>>320504236
Motomu Toriyama. The talentless fuck who ruined FF, Front Mission and Parasite Eve.
>>320504214
>Legit, the final boss is the end of the tutorial.
That's the problem.
How is that hard to understand?
That a game shouldn't take 25 hours to get good.
I feel like i'm going crazy.
>>320504239
>Look at me sweep up my shit
>I fling a little at you too
>I'm all good
>>320503806
Since I take it you're currently playing LR, what day are you on? The highways just opened up for me, I think it's day 9. I'm glad I found out about the cyber jumpsuit because Earth Eaters are fucking killing me. I'm trying to farm heavy slash from the death game currently.
>>320504397
I'm not saying there wasn't a problem. I'm just saying it's bewildering.
>>320504214
I don't want to repeat that insufferable fuck Spoony but why the fuck do have to wait fucking 10+ hours for a game to get good?
>>320499362
>your a fucking moron
>>320504539
Oh I'm sorry senpai, I didn't mean to displease you and only you.
You're a fucking moron.
>>320502739
I loved the ending
It was such a glorious spectacle
The quality of the CGI is beyond godlike, the twist is great, and the reveal of what the XIII logo actually means is perfect
I was just staring at the screen wondering how in the living fuck anyone was gonna ever outdo that
Lightning Returns did it with an even more insane ending
Guys, I'm not even 3 hours into FFXIII yet and I think it's a pretty interesting game, so what's this "wait 10 hours" meme ?
>>320504526
Monster Hunter.
>>320504730
You're literally playing tutorial:the game
>>320502739
Speaking of puzzle environments, there were no puzzles.
I remember feeling like a casual going through the game.
>>320504746
>simply names a different game
>this somehow negates my point
>>320504730
You don't really get to use your own team until after the final boss.
But it's still pretty so it gets a pass. The only time I savored the graphics in vidya before.
OBJECTIVE RANKINGS
>God tier
V, XI, XII
>High Tier
III, IV, VI, VIII
>Mid tier
I, IX, X, XIV
>Low tier
VII, X-2, XII-2, LR
>Shit tier
II, XIII
>>320497656
What are you talking about? Paradigm-hopping is great. I only wish it were faster. There is no fucking excuse to have a 5 second cutscene everytime you swap paradigms. Especially in a battle system that is supposed to emphasize speed. I'd even go a step further and say you should be able to cycle through your paradigms while walking around and have a few quickslots in battle so you could swap to 2 or 3 of your favorites with one button press.
>>320505134
>V, XI and XII in god tier
Shit b8 m8.
>>320504730
You know all those plot threads they're putting out. None of them will be explained. For like the next 20 hours.
>>320505134
Put IX in high tier and your list is perfect
>>320504969
The worst was: if there's ever a dead end on the map, it means there's an item there.
Thanks for telling me where every item is as soon as I walk into the zone. Now I just have to think about if I want to walk over and get it or if I'm feeling jaded enough to just not care about your shitty potion.
Way to even take away my desire to hunt in every nook and cranny for something interesting. You might as well have just put them in the main path and spare me the vauge hope of something interesting being out there.
>>320505069
It does, and if you don't have the patience to play FFXIII to endgame despite having cool environments, lots of dialogue, and cutscenes, then never touch Monster Hunter. You're obviously one of those ADHD kiddos who needs Youtube in the background to keep you occupied.
Gone are the days of Dragon Warrior.
>>320505246
Not sure why you say that. This game has been pretty thorough in explaining everything. There's even the database where you can look into it and read about exactly what's going on.
>>320491589
>>320484372
>>320489001
IX was a bad Final Fantasy. It had absolutely terrible equipment, skill, and ability systems that allowed no room for players to shape their characters in any way. The trance system going off outside of your control was even worse designed than VIII's limit spamming. The combat was slow and boring and the only interesting mechanic AT ALL was the dynamic between Steiner and Vivi, and it didn't really add anything to the game at all. It had a terribly boring setting that's only praised by "classic fans" because it didn't emphasize sci-fi, completely disregarding that Final Fantasy has used sci-fi elements from the start of the series. Your cast consisted of characters like Freya who were completely forgotten by the plot after their usefulness to the story was up, characters like Quina who basically just showed up whenever the game felt you needed a 4th party member and didn't do ANYTHING of any relevance, and characters like Amarant who I'm still trying to figure out why he was added to the game. The protagonist and antagonist being "space alien grim reaper brothers" is by far the worst plot twist in the series, much worse than either the orphanage in VIII or "You're a dream Teedus" could ever hope to be.
The worst part of all? In a series that's known for its innovation in its genre, Final Fantasy IX bitched out and actively BACKTRACKED to boring, outdated, mechanics. At least the early games it was a callback to were innovations of their time like the ATB system in IV, and at least for the PSX titles VII, VIII, and Tactics all tried to do new things with turn-based RPGs, storytelling, and world building even if it didn't please everyone- whereas IX actively decided to say fuck that, and appeal to idiots who want video games to stagnate.
It was boring and had nothing unique going for it. In fact, nothing about the game is particularly memorable. It has no sense of identity for itself and just takes after previous titles.
>>320505307
Its in between for me. I understand why people like it but it didnt fully click for me. Its definitely upper mid tier at least.
>>320505336
Except FF13 has none of those.
You must have loved Order 1886.
>>320505423
The backtracking was literally the whole point of a game you fucking idiot, they wanted to make it feel like the old Final Fantasy games that's why they made it that way
>>320505594
>i-it was intented to be shit.
Kill yourself.
>>320505594
Dude that pasta is ancient. Don't reply.
>>320505423
FFIX had the best romance out of any other Final Fantasy game. It was more believable than squall-rinoa by a longshot.
>>320505171
Yeah if I remember correctly that's one of the things XIII-2 fixed, the shifts were instantaneous.
>>320505584
Yeah, I prefer vidya.
And I never said I liked FFXIII, I'm just saying it's crazy that you don't have any real control until after the final boss, but at least you get pretty environments, lots of dialogue, and cutscenes to help you dredge though it to the end. Whereas Monster Hunter gives you shit until GRank.
>>320505134
>playing MMO FFs
>>320504730
You said it
It's a meme
Game is fantastic don't fall for bait
>>320506330
Baby's first final fantasy
>>320506460
We're talking abou XIII not VII
>>320504507
Day 4.
But I've been using Chronostasis near-constantly.
>play game 2 years ago
>beat Caius Day 3 with only a little trouble
>play it now
>Day 3 again
>have way more shit this time around
>cant even get him below 50%
I'm so stubborn about beating him right now that I'm losing my drive to play
>>320505594
What? FF1 didn't have backtracking. FF2 didn't have backtracking (aside from returning to the rebel stronghold). FF3 didn't have backtracking either.
1/3 ain't bad op, but 9 and 10 shit on 13
Guys! Guys! Stop arguing!
Let's just agree that every single Final Fantasy is shitty!
>>320506676
>>320504507
So has anybody on pc finished it yet?
I wanna know if they nerfed the final boss
>>320506805
4, 6, 7, 8, and 9 are pretty good. Everything else is "take it or leave it," basically
>>320506764
Not backtracking in the game you goof, we meant gameplay wise, sorry for the confusion.
>>320506760
Caius raped my bunghole too. It's day 5 or 6 and I already beat Snow and Noel. I guess I'm going to have to teleport out of here and pay Fang a visit.
It wasn't this hard the first time I beat him. I don't even think he's upgraded yet. It's probably because I haven't gotten a regen-sword yet.
>>320482972
The three ps1 games are the pinnacle of the series.
>>320482972
>XIII.
>Better than X.
U WOT, M8?
>>320506815
Why would they nerf? The + version is hard. Vanilla is easy peasy Japanesey.
>>320506075
XI is (or was) one of the only good MMOs
>>320482972
Nearly literally killed FF.
>>320505241
>V, XI, and XII
>not god tier
>>320507195
Because I remember people complaining like hell and rumors of SE nerfing the final boss for pc
You know why FFXIII is the "worst" FF at least to me?
It simply hasn't interested me enough to even give it a go while all of the other "bad" FFs (FFII, VIII, X-2 and Mystic Quest) have at least interested me enough to actually try them out and I have found something I liked out of every single one of them. Meanwhile FFXIII and the MMOs are the only FFs I have never played and will never have any interest about.
