If this game wasn't called Final Fantasy, you'd be praising it right by Dark Souls and Xenoblade as one of the best rpgs of the last generation. Why did you guys try to talk me out of playing this?
>>320440278
I think that statement is questionable, just like FF13's writing.
The demo was shit, and everything I've seen make it sound like most of the game is fetch quests in humongous, completely empty environments. You're not fooling me thrice Toriyama.
>>320440429
Bullshit. FFV, XI, and X-2 were the only FF games with legitimately good battle systems. This isn't including spin-offs.
>>320440596
The fetch quests all feel like a waste of time. Tat and the lughably bad writing are my only real gripes with the game.
The game is/was a scrapped Valkyrie Profile game.
Think about it.
>>320440278
The story is trash, the combat is boring as fuck and the few good ideas it has are criminally underused.
It's much much better than the boring dogshit and hilariously bad dogshit that the first two FF13 games were, but that doesn't mean it isn't still a very flawed game
>>320440991
No shit? I thought VP was at least kind of popular in the east.
>>320440278
No, because a good RPG requires a good story and good characters. The XIII universe is cancer and Lightning is the most malignant tumour within it. If the game had been completely different in every way save for a rough outline, yes, perhaps people would have praised it. But then the same goes for every shitty game ever made.
I'm glad I tried it despite how awful 13 was. It really is one of the best games in the series.
all i want to do is marry lightning
I want to play LR because I hear it has good gameplay, but I feel like I'd be missing the story of the first two games, neither of which I care to play, particularly the first. I've actually tried to play the first and I have more fun watching paint dry.
>>320441446
everything that happens in ff13 is invalidated basically offscreen by 13-2, which is in turn mostly invalidated offscreen by lightning returns
the few blanks you need to fill in are in the in-game wikipedia
>>320441202
I don't know if I agree 100%. Games like Etrian Odyssey had no real characterization for MCs and NPCs were really shallow. I think having a really strong customization/character building system that reflects your decisions in an important way is more important than story in an rpg.
LR made a decent effort in that regard that was limited because of the retarded as fuck skill system and rock-paper-scissor difficulty that comes with every battle in the game.
>>320440278
Because the lightning games are fucking terrible.
>>320441446
The story sucks dick. Play for the battle and costume system. The music and shiny graphics are a nice bonus. I find myself skipping cutscenes at some points since the game reminds you of wht to do literally every 1.5 minutes.
>>320440278
I get the feeling that lightning returns was a skeleton of a much bigger game that had to be cut down and rushed out pretty quickly. The framerate issues, the same 5 NPCs copypasted everywhere, the weird lighting when the sun goes down, the fucktarded story; It all seems very stitched together.
The combat was obviously designed around controlling multiple party members at some point, but, as the other anon said, shit was scrapped.
>>320441885
Etrian Odyssey is complete shit though.
>>320441446
I enjoyed LR despite giving up on 13 after a few hours and never trying 13-2. Everything important is explained adequately, and it's not really a game you play primarily for the plot or characters anyway.
>>320442075
I read that a bunch of shit got cut because the testers thought it was too hard. The quests also seem like an afterthought. Like the main quests are pretty entertaining, but then I'm slogging through stupid shit like picking mushrooms.
>>320442285
This nigga.
>>320442434
Don't forget that the area where those mushrooms grow can only be accessed between 6am and 8am. I hate games that do this type of shit.
>>320440278
>just pirated this shit today
>hyped
>its turn-based
>proceed to uninstall
is it good? played ff13, and while I didn't hate it like /v/ does, it was just okay
is LR good?
>>320440278
No I wouldn't. Dude, it's not even close to El Shaddai, an actual fucking great RPG of last generation. The whole FFXIII series is a blight on the name of not just Final Fantasy, but RPGs as well.
>>320442735
you got the wrong one buddy
>>320440278
It's a fine game gameplay-wise, but it falls flat in story and delivery thereof. Especially if you consider the story in the other two games in the series.
Im enjoying side quests and sometimes miss the timing for main quests, am I going to game over?
>>320442954
It's a good game. The beginning just kind of smacks you into paying attention to how you cuatomize Lightning. Some enemies like this stupid piece of shit become unbeatable if you aren't prepared.
>>320443098
I haven't beaten it, but the Wildlands and Yusnaan main quests are long as hell and could be hard to finish if you don't manage your time or ep.
>>320442285
You're complete shit.
>>320443098
Completing each main quests give you an extra day, but if your day counter runs out before you've done all od them its game over.
I'd advise to do the wildlands quest last since the boss there is strong as fuck. I had to warp out of the dungeon and lose my progress since he kept kicking my ass.
>>320442075
>obviously designed around controlling multiple party members at one point
What? I didn't get this vibe at all, I thought limiting it to one character was the single biggest improvement.
>>320442434
Well I don't know about while it was in development, but in the final game the difficulty curve is all over the place. It doesn't help that like the original game it railroads and handholds you massively in the beginning and then abruptly drops you in the world and trying to go straight into the main quest actually gets you curbstomped.
>>320442668
It's even worse that going to those places seem pointless after completing ther main quests due to how important ep can actually be later on and that it could take 3 in game hours just to return to a more relevantarea after completing any sidequest
>>320443479
holy shit this fucker, also hanuman in the same dungeon who's easy as shit but takes forever to kill if you don't have a bunch of aero slotsthe temple of etro is so fucked up, there are like three or four differently-aligned enemies in the same dungeon so you have to keep redoing your schemata
"Leveling" system is retarded. Time limit is dog shit. It runs like shit across the board and it's pretty damn ugly. It's decent at best.
>>320444414
This. Caius' main quest is utter bullshit if you aren't ready for it. The game also likes throwing shit like reavers and those green fuckers that spam rush at you with no real warning or indication that you are about to be fighting a losing battle. The game also punishes running which is messed up when the difficulty curve is a 90 degree angle.
>>320445038
Do you work at IGN or something?
>>320445038
>runs like shit
Explain. Shit runs like butter on my toaster of a laptop.
>>320445294
No. I was hyped. I bought it day 1 Steam release. It's been a disappointment.
>>320445329
Inconsistent frame rate regardless on of "high" or "low" settings.
>>320444698
I had to run 2 different magic schemas for the Tower of Etro, and even then I got slapped by fira and other dumb shit. I had to load a save file from 2 hours back because I had to fight caius with no hp or supplies. Elementa is even useless there which is unreal.
>>320445117
You know the more I think about it the more I realize this game really is bullshit sometimes. I mean yeah the combat is really fun when you actually do everything "right" and get the abilities you're supposed to and do the quests in order, but it's so easy to go off track and the goddamn time limit punishes you so hard for doing so you might as well quit and reload if you figure out you're in the wrong place.
And then there's the fact that it puts you on this very scripted scenario at the beginning and then aborts it, and basically tells you you should probably go back there asap when in reality you're better off fucking around Luxerion. Or the fact that it's constantly banging you over the head with the time limit and how traveling wastes time at the beginning but actually the smartest thing to do is go to all the areas and scoop up the garb and get rewards from easy sidequests before doing anything else.
Basically what I'm saying is that it tells you to do something then proceeds to fuck you in the ass unless you do the opposite thing instead.It's almost like it wants you to FIGHT YOUR DESTINY
>>320440278
I fucking hate all of the lightning games, not because of the writing or gameplay, but because of Lightning.
>>320440278
>spam the stagger ability to win
10/10 best game
Probably because people can't learn how to use chronostasis or time blocks.
>>320448012
Or maybe they just can't handle low-budget games that have retarded graphics problems. This game makes me rage so hard because it's so good, but the lack of budget is so obvious and apparent in the graphics.
>>320448006
That was XIII and XIII-2
3 actually manages to evolve the stagger mechanics quite a bit by giving enemies unique stagger requirements
>>320448208
Well, it's either that, or they just don't appreciate the gameplay. Probably because they're closet homosexuals.
>>320440278
>only ever played 7 on psx
>kinda interested in this one
should I go through xiii and xiii-2 to play this?
>>320441958
But thats the only lightning game
>>320448461
No, the story of the first two won't matter.
>>320448208
why is it that the physics are often out of step with the rest of the game or stutter, etc.
this doesn't just apply to LR a lot of games have this problem for some reason
>Buy game because it's my guilty pleasuremuch like Ow the Edge
>Download time: 11 hours
>never finish XIII
>watch friend play a little XIII-2, looks a little better
>see grown up Hope
Do Hope and Lightning ever become a thing in the series or not? I'd consider playing through them the rest of the way if so.
>>320449507
It's heavily imply they fuck hard after Lightning Returns.
>>320441446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYNowWOfTII
There, now you can skip the first two.
Mods when?
>>320450602
what? really?
>>320451169
Fucking never.
>>320451521
Can you change lighting hair at all? That's a deal breaker.
>>320451521
Fucking why?
>>320451521
is there a reason for that?
>>320451521
>that one with the snek coiling her up
>>320451521
>chinese dress
Thank god it got cut, my dick wouldn't have survived.
>>320451521
>why do you make me wear this
>>320440991
kek I love how people try to downplay LR's connection to the FFXIII series and make up crazy excuses for why this game is fucking good.
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/13/nora-wont-return-lightning-returns-final-fantasy-xiii/
>We also asked Kitase about tri-Ace who co-developed Final Fantasy XIII-2. They are involved with Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII, but not as much so. "With this installment, staff members of Square Enix are the primary force, but we did get Tri-Ace to help on some parts of the graphic work, as they did in the past," Kitase explained
Tri-Ace barely worked on Lightning Returns and it was never a VP game. LR's lead combat designer is literally the one of the guys who designed XIII's battle system. Stop spreading this dumb Valkyrie Profile meme
