have you played as cloud, /v/
opinions?
>>320386183
He feels pretty weak. Hard to KO people. Charging limit break takes ages manually, and half of his specials suck.
Fun as fuck
Went online with a friend yesterday doing team smash. Cross Slash after Cross Slash after Cross Slash combos all day. Don't know if it's a true combo or not but it's funny either way.
>>320386183
>>>>more charizard bullying
Reeeeeeeeeeeed
Not really, but in fucking tired of playing against cloud in FG
>>320386489
>playing For Glory
Stop acting like this is a competitive fighter lol
It feels like none of his moves have any lag. Took a second to get used to the delay of fsmash but it's pretty good.
Might have one of the best dsmash's in the game.
Limit Break side-b and down-b get me so many of my 2nd stock kills
Ftilt and utilt are both great, dtilt is a little more situational but can combo into uair or nair pretty easily
I'd be surprised if he wasn't at least at the lower end of high tier
Yeah, he's okay. Not as powerful as I expected him to be. You need limit breaker if you want a guaranteed kill.
>>320386183
Pretty cool but for some reason I beat everyone with Cloud in FG with the exception of other Clouds
I guess I really am terrible at mirror matches in general
I thought he was going to be broken at first since he seemed to have the same range as Shulk and is faster. He's actually pretty fair. God damn is Climhazzard a garbage recovery though.
Fairly fun but feels immensely inferior to my boii Ike.
>>320386183
He feels great.
>>320387002
Like him a lot. I'm a Samus main, so I admit that it was a pretty quick transition since both involve some charging. I hate one thing though: I never can seem to get his up air to fucking hit.
>>320387507
Climhazzard is a shit recovery w/o limit break.
>>320386774
This is not true
>>320386724
>Might have one of the best dsmash's in the game
>techable on first hit
>all those scrubs killing themselves by mashing climhazzard
I laugh every time
>>320387618
On stages like battlefield platform falling uair is an amazing option
Also uair after ftilt and dtilt at low % is pretty much guarenteed
>>320387507
>a character that can actually feasibly not recover
Thank fucking God, I'm tired of fighting characters who will literally always make it back even if you spike them
-Shorthopped up airs have no landing lag
-other tilts have little landing lag if you land on the floor quickly in general
-limit recharge autocancels if you press B you can quickly do another command
Down b > B >anything , so we'll see how the meta develops and how people invent ways to recharge the meter
All in all, he is very fun, but his recovery is atrocious(worse than little macs), its a deal breaker
>>320387507
>>320387885
>Cloud goes from the aerialfest of Dissidia, where everyone can practically fly around the fucking stage to Smash, and then makes Little Mac's recovery look good
This amuses me more than it should.
>>320387942
>worse than little macs)
Nah, little mac is easier to gimp due to shit aerials and his recovery is acceptable with Limit break.
>>320386183
>fast
>Nair has big range and is lightning fast compared to Ike/Shulk
>Uair hitbox is big and lingers for a bit making it forgiving and powerful
>Down tilt sliding kick can chain into Uair almost every time if you're fast
>side smash hits hard if you can deal with the lag
>Fair is an awesome tool for ledge guarding which may even just spike people
I wasn't a fan of his inclusion but after yesterday I like playing him.
>>320386672
For Fun is only fun locally.
>Only 2 songs
I mean they're great but
>Only 2 songs
>>320386183
I dont pay for microtransactions, but it's literally ok when nintendo does it
>>320388879
wait what
like his stage legit only has 2 songs?
>>320388952
Yes.
Only two songs.
>>320387942
>>320388603
i love seeing smashplayers try to articulate their opinions as if smash is a fighting game
He's essentially the HoS of Smash.
I quite like him. Make good use of his limit gauge.
People who complain that he sucks is cuz they aren't using the limit charge move properly.
Basically a Shulk +2
>>320388952
It's not like SE can let Nintendo get access to all the songs when they're working on the remake with Sony.
>>320386724
Zero is that you?
>>320389204
Shulk is still better. Even more now after the patch.
>>320389823
Shulk doesn't kill at 70% unless he's fighting Jigglypuff.
He's fun but I probably won't end up maining him. Gonna stick with Ryu and Megaman until Corrin and Bayo, try them, say meh, and go back to ryu and megaman where I'll forever suck because they're incredibly tech-y
>>320389931
The thing is Shulk has overall better A moves and can bring someone to 80% in no time with Buster. Then Smash and you're done.
>>320388879
>Despite the logo being FF rather than the FF7 logo, no songs outside of FF7
>Midgar without Bombing Mission
I mean yeah Fight On is still great but why.
>>320389804
<@;^)
>>320387793
The best part is that it can be used similarly to Bowsercide. I played some 4-player free-for-all last night for fun and was amused by how often I could climhazzard off the stage and take some other recovering sap with me. It's not always about winning when you're with friends. Sometimes it's fun to just be a dick.
Am I the only one who's managed to tech out of his D-smash? I dunno how I did it but I was playing Jiggs and on the back swing of it I teched out and didn't get launched
>>320389102
Here's your reply
>>320386672
have you even played the game? for fun online is garbage
>>320392930
Online smash in general is garbage, no matter how good of an internet connection you and your opponent have, there will always be some amount of lag.
>>320393720
It doesn't matter what your internet connection is like when everybody just stands around and taunts.
>>320386346big sword and Yolo? I ran into a tag team of cloud yesterday and that's all they did
>>320389116
>He's essentially the HoS of Smash.
how so? the charging?
Very fun to play, his recovery is pretty weak though.
>>320388937
Do you know what micro-transactions are?
>>320394476
Guilty
Link is still the best swordsman in the game.
>>320395425
marth > link
>>320386183
Fast. REALLY fast.
>>320389931
He can kill at 80% though. Up air is really hard to connect but its really strong. I say Shulk can kill easly if you gimp the other players. Didnt play Cloud yet but Shulk does a better job off stage than cloud and his horrible up b.
I really hate his throws for some reason. They don't feel satisfying at all. I guess its also because this game has conditioned me to only try for combos out of throws, which means I am bad if I can't combo out of a throw.
His down B should have been a counter desu, the limit break charge sucks.
>>320395509
Get off of those drugs
Basically better ike and shulk.
>>320396008
Not impressed. The fact that you can't choose when to use limit break is a deal breaker. You can't use weak specials to make openings for the powered up special, or even if you are just 5 inches away from grabbing the ledge, you are forced to use your powered up jump to survive
>>320396384
are you serious
>>320396667
yes I'm serious, you literally are walking on pins and needles if you want to use your limit break strategically
>>320396828
no I'm saying are you fucking serious that you're fucking complaining about this
what a fucking joke
>>320396938
It is a joke that cloud can't choose when to use his limit, I know
>>320395509
Link is horrible average and thats being generous.
Toon Link, Marth, Ike, Roy and Robin are much better
Ike and Meta Knight are FAR better
>>320388952
>>320389067
That's pretty gay. Especially considering that in the trailers, they had THREE songs (regular battle, boss battle and chocobo theme). Pretty fucking lazy, desu.
>>320397970
blame SE
>>320386420
He's a literal dragon, he makes for good action pose dummying.
His Up air is fucking savage, top priority against any other attack.
He's got some surprisingly long lasting hitboxes on his u-air and d-air which can catch people unaware. They do need to add some hitboxes to the very top of his fair though, or at least change the sword trail to reflect where they are. Other than that he's pretty fun.
Didn't test it yet but I'm not currently home. Can any of his throws chains into a rising and falling Climhazzard? Is it worth doing for a combo start or mostly useless?
>>320398510
His grab is atrocious, like one of the worst in the game it not even worth going for. The only think his grab can combo into is Dthrow to Reversed Side B which ONLY works at 0 % and ONLY works on smaller, floaty characters (Someone about the size and weight of Falcon it doesnt work on, but Toon Link it does)
>>320397732
Did MK get buffed? He was garbage on release.
>>320398907
Meta Knight was never garbage first off, people just saw he wasnt Brawl tier and assumed. But he did get some big buffs a few patches ago. Hes one of the best in the game right now
>>320386183
ITS NOT FAIR
>>320398510
Up throw can easily chain into Cimhazzard at low percentages.
>>320399126
He's never fit my playstyle but I'll have to try him again. Are any of the heavies decent right now? I messed around with Smash 4 a decent amount at release but haven't touched it since. Falcon was pretty good on release I know, but DK and Ganon seemed terrible.
>>320399536
Ike is slowly creeping his way into A tier, he's good as fuck and has good tourny represntation
DK is also a good character now, one placed in Top 8 at a major a few months back. His Cargo Up air combo kills on low ceiling stages early as fuck
Bowser also just got a big buff, no idea how much its going to help him yet but things look very good for him right now
>>320386321
>Hard to KO people.
>>320386183
His recovery is fucking terrible.
Not even from a distance perspective, he cannot grab the ledge until his up B actually ends, so even the biggest mouth breather can edgeguard him.
>KO'ing people at 40-50% with down B
His recovery is garbage. All it takes is a footstool on certain stages to fuck him over
His up tilt seems better than his side-titls
That projectile is only good in certain circumstances
That side-b is good for fake-outs
His down-tilt is actually pretty useful
I still don't get how to properly use the charge move.
