w-w-why are y-you not talking about my new game i-i-i-i-insect
>>320377428
Because we need to see if it's pc first to determine if it will be a dumbed down experience
Because we already talked about it at length and there's not much to go off at this point.
>>320377428
Nobody wants to play another shitty -Shock game. When will they finally end this series?
>talking about games
nah
>>320377525
I was reading on their forums and one of the devs said they probably want to do console versions, but that they design for PC and would then port it to console, and make necessary changes to those versions.
Give me your SSH1 remake first.
System Shock 1 was better than 2.
>>320378281
Unless they seriously overhaul the UI, Shock 3 would be literally impossible to play on a controller
>>320377428
Made by the masterminds behind underworld ascendant... Woah... I can't wait...
other than whether or not it will be a kickstarter there is nothing to discuss
>>320378281
This is fine. As long as the pc version isn't sabotaged and casualized like infinite it stands a decent chance
>>320378437
Diablo 3 managed
>>320378437
I'd be interested to see how SS1 would be mapped to the controller. I actually like 1's controls but they could be simplified to work that way without actually sacrificing anything, like stance being handled with 1 button like in any other game instead of 3, or a toggle for leaning like Dishonored did.
>>320377528
>that pic
lel
>>320377428
Because not much is known and it will probably be a 2 weapon system shit.
>>320380542
>>320378554
>>320377658
Fuck you Todd.
>>320380862
>he thinks SS3 will be good
Ah, to be young and naive again
So how can they fuck it up?
>can be a jack of all trades
>enemies do not respawn
>no need in resource management
>more story-oriented with smaller levels
One of the things I'm curious about is how they'll deal with SS2's ending. Maybe SS3 will begin with a remake of SS2's ending which uses the original script and cut zero-g segments on the outside of the ship.
>>320380998
>cybernetic modules and skills
>>320380998
2 weapons system because of consoles
Less rpg elements
Poor optimization/port
Should I play SS/SS2 with mods?
>>320378281
Translation: PC menu will say "Press Start to Begin" when you boot it up
>>320378960
Diablo 3 was built around consoles in the first place
>>320380542
I dunno, it's got a lot of the old Shock 1 team behind it
>>320381156
Less RPG elements is one of the best things they could do after SS2.
>>320380996
Elaborate on why you think it would be bad.
>>320381293
Less RPG elements is one of the worst things they could do after SS2.
Cause it's gonna be casualized shit.
That being said I will be buying and playing it.
>>320381225
SS on steam doesn't have any mods and doesn't need any
SS2 has a few good mods like graphical overhauls and better quality music
You can find guides for modding it online
>>320378281DOWNGRADE CONFIRMED
>>320381225
haven't played SS but seen videos, it looks very cluster fuck, I recommend skip and play SS2
>>320381537
It starts off as a clusterfuck, but it's honestly more straight forward than 2 with it's insane RPG progression shit
>>320381537
>I havent played that game
>I recommend you skip it
shut the fuck up retard
>>320381293
>>320378281
I'm expecting it to be like PoE compared to BG2. Maybe not bad but meh.
>>320381537
It's awful and enemy respawn is retarded and makes the game not fun. Music is good and that's it.
>>320377428
Can we finally side with Shodan and rescue her from exploding space vessel by placing her into android body and have sex with her in excape pod after job done?
![latest[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/v8Z3FhD.png "latest[2].png")
How the hell did cybernetic modules work anyway? They're clearly little chips but SHODAN sends you them through email. It's like downloading more RAM.
>>320381656
>more straight forward than 2 with it's insane RPG progression shit
What does insane RPG progression mean? How was it insane? And how was it shit?
>I like X so I MUST HATE Y game
Why are kids always like that?
>>320381836
3D pocket printer
>>320381836
Nanomachines son
>>320377428
It's going to be more casualized than Bioshock Infinite. It has a "3" in the title so as a shitty shooter it will sell regardless.
>>320381949
But nanomachines are completely different currency.
>>320381836
you might have had a supply of blank tiny chips and she just uploaded more data to them for you to use
>>320381883
You must spend exactly six cybernetic modules before you can pull the trigger on that pistol you found 20 minutes ago, but you must spend exactly 30 more modules to pull the trigger on this shotgun you just found, because that makes sense, even though the fucking mutants are using them just fine.
And standard weapons are totally overpowered. You find them earliest, they have the most ammo, they have different ammo types to take on any kind of monster, and they do plenty of damage. You might think there's some benefit to, say, exotic weapons, but their all situational as fuck and they're all mid-later game weapons, at which point you probably already invested in Standard and have the assault rifle. Not to mention, you have to research exotic weapons to use them, they can't even harm the final boss, and the ranged ones are useless against mechanical enemies. So if you decided you want to use exotic weapons, you fucked up. Basically the same thing with energy weapons but they're less useless.
And that's not the only thing. So many psi powers are trivial but require a shit ton of modules to unlock. In my experience repair and maintenance might as well have been a single skill.
SS1 benefited from the simplicity of its character progression. Every advance comes from your equipment, which you find while exploring. You don't have to hold off on using this exciting new weapon or hardware until you meet some arbitrary point requirement, and it's not a gamble of whether or not it will be a totally worthless waste of said points.
>>320381331
List all the reboots or new games that have come out long after the previous version
Now list how many of those were actually good
>yfw SS3 is coming only for VR
surveymonkey
.com/r/DJMH7H6
>>320382973
>kill enemy
>he respawns
>kill him again
>he respawns
>kill him x times
>he doesn't respawn anymore
>oh, except those that ALWAYS respawn
That made sense? HAHAHA
>>320382973
>So many psi powers are trivial but require a shit ton of modules to unlock.
No they don't, unless you are a wuss who doesn't explore.
And let's not pretend that SS1 didn't have shitty weapons.
>>320383151
>Deus Ex Human Revolution
it was good
>Shin Megami Tensei 3
>it was good
>Shin Megami Tensei 4
it was good
>XCOM
it was good
>Ninja Gaiden
it was good
>Shadowrun Dragonfall
it was good
>Serious Sam 3
it was good
>Return to Castle Wolfenstein
it was good
>Wolfenstein The New Order
it was good
>Shinobi
it was good
>Killer Instinct
it was good
>>320380996
It might go either way.
Just look at gameplay videos and the flow of things
A trainwreck is easy to detect a mile away
>>320383557
>Serious Sam 3 reboot
WTF dude?
>>320383641
>or new games
>>320383732
>SS3
>new game
WTF dude?
>>320377428
> Dat feel when you want to upload your "data" into SHODAN yet you cannot because she hates meatbags...
>>320383528
SS1 had the riot gun which wasn't helpful but it's less of an issue because you didn't have to spend the rest of the game saving up points to be able to use it, only to fund that out.
>>320383929
Or instead of saving points you could explore and have more than enough to use it at any time.
>>320383895
Just get the right cybernetic upgrades.
>>320383528
the riot gun and stun thing are almost completely useless on purpose
>>320384278
Yeah. Maybe replacing all your body, except your brain, with cybernetics will make her reconsider.
>>320383895
>no SHODAN doujinshi
it's a fucking crime, it would combine all my fetishes together into a single package
>>320384278
>>320384462
>not literally raping her in the cyberspace
>>320384570
What a brute.
>>320384787
Genocide makes you hostis humani generis and it's literally ok to rape those. Also Shodan would probably respect more if you tried it.
>play Shock 2 when it goes up on GoG
>it's fucking amazing
>becomes my favourite game ever made
>Shock 1 gets an official rerelease
>it's even better
Looking Glass were the fucking shit
desu I would probably just join The Many
would kill Korenchkin first tho, he's kind of a faggot (great character, but very loose morals)
>>320385008
Have you played Thief?
>>320385358
I have played Thief, that's what introduced me to the studio. They're fucking great games, but they don't even come close System Shock
>>320385690
>but they don't even come close System Shock
True, they're much better.
Regardless of how this turns out, I'm at least glad the news about it seems to have introduced a lot of people to Looking Glass.
How did looking glass do it?
Top tier sound design
Top tier gameplay
Top tier ambiance.
Top tier level design.
Top tier story.
How can one company be so good at almost every aspect of game development?
>>320387394
>Top tier gameplay
So, uh, how long ago did you actually played SS2?
>>320387394
>>320387481
Actually, SS2 isn't really Looking Glass (they did provide the engine though), so I guess they can not be blamed.
>that pure, uncorrupt ken levine on that mp3 the steam version added
>>320378437
System shock 2 and thief 2 were being ported to dreamcast. Infact that's the whole reason newdark exists.
>>320387394
>Top tier sound design
Are there any games in the last like 15 years that have even tried to match thiefs sound design? In most games the sound design is no more than just background music
>you will never date shodan
why live
>>320388367
I mean, there are probably plenty of games that have technically better sound design like DICE games or something. But I can't think of anything that integrates sound as part of the gameplay like Thief aside from rhythm games and that's different.
>>320388367
Alien Isolation.
>>320377428
There's not much to go by.
If there's any dev that could pull the jo, it's definitely OSE.
Still, it doesn't mean it's going to be perfect(it was announced for PC and consoles, I still remember Deadly Shadows)
b-b-b-because it's going to be s-s-shit
seriously there's no way it won't get ruined, getting hype about it is just setting yourself up for bad times
>>320381836
DRM/DLC
not even joking, you're probably a perfect killing machine at the start but you get nerfed immediately by shodan to minimize your threat to her
>>320377428
Stuttering on purpose does not make you sound cute. Fuck off, faggot.
>>320377428
this is why
>>320391230
> SHODAN invented DLC and DRM before the industry adopted it.
Goddammit.
Flag taken?
>>320391854
LG was killed by eidos because of daikatana right?
>>320381537
They changed so many game mechanics between the original and the sequel that they're honestly apples and oranges to comparison.
Me, I liked SS more but the UI and controls are unintuitive (YES, it is a product of its time). If you can forgive that, the gunplay is surprisingly fun and original. However, it's not much of an RPG, there's no class building and all gear progression is static to every playthrough.
If you start with SS2, the intro gives you all the plot of SS you need and you probably know all you need to know about SS2 because of how much /v/ and /vr/ masturbate to it. SS2 is not bad in many ways but it is very different and lacks player assistance, A.K.A. not for casuals.
I hated SS2 the first time I tried it, but I came back with more patience and a better understanding of the class building and I had a great playthrough.
If you discussed this with 10 different people, you'd get 10 different answers. Best advice: get SS (cheap as SS2) and go into it with an open mind and a lot of patience. If you chose SS2 to test as well and you don't like it either, you should consider not playing games from that era. It's not for everyone, and that's okay.
>>320391514
It's not made by irrational it is made by a studio that nobody knows what it's capable of. That's why people are somewhat hyped, if it was made by someone like EA everyone would be shitting on it.
>>320392790
>it's not much of an RPG
There's no real reason to expect it to be, other than the sequel having RPG elements. I mean, the game was inspired by the likes of Legend of Zelda, gear progression wise.
>>320391018
>>320391854
>If there's any dev that could pull the jo, it's definitely OSE.
I don't exactly trust them since they haven't proven themselves as this new company but they haven't disproven them either which places them ahead of most devs I can think of.
I'd be comfortable with Arkane handling it.
>>320393049
I'm on the fence about Arkane. I know it's partly Bethesda's fault, but still.
And OSE is far from perfect, much like Ion Storm once LGS moved on. I'm just saying they're the best.
>>320392801
>Mentioning EA and Irrational in the same comment
That almost gave me an ulcer. Remember how Dead Space 3 went?
>>320393989
Reminder that Dead Space was probably originally System Shock 3.
>>320394340
It was definitely inspired by System Shock 2, but I wouldn't exactly say that makes it System Shock 3.
>>320394527
This makes me think so, even if only at some early pre-production stage
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Shock_2#Sequel
>>320394340
Almost forgot. LGS and EA originally had a much closer bond back in the day, i.e. Origin. Not to mention the copyright limbo System Shock was in for 15 years. Dead Space isn't at all far from the legacy of SS2.
Anyway the point I was (very poorly) getting at is that modern EA can (and indeed will) ruin everything with bullshit DRM, DLC and microtransactions. It could fall on its ass but seeing another company take the mantle for SS3 fills me with hope.
>>320394527
Not him but it was ss3 at one stage (probably really early on).
>>320381331
It's developed by a dev with way too little experience and underworld ascendant was a 20 FOV Unity piece of shit.
>>320395927
They already addressed the concerns with FOV and most of the individuals there have decades of experience including System Shock 1 and 2.
And I don't know what you mean by 'was', that game isn't even in beta yet.
>>320395927
>dev with way too little experience
I wouldn't be so sure. They have people from Looking Glass who were tearing it up more than a decade and a half ago
>UA was a piece of shit
>was
It hasn't even come out yet! It's not even beyond a prototype yet. What's with such a definite answer?
>>320380996
>>320395927
This is either bait or a /v/tard who has deceived himself into thinking he legitimately knows anything about vidya (or just likes to shit on games he knows nothing about for amusement)
I almost never go on /v/ anymore but I thought I'd visit because SS3 was confirmed and /vr/ is quiet for some reason. How stupid some of the anons here can get still astounds me (not to imply /vr/ is much better).
It's true that there's not much to speak of for SS3 because it's only now been announced but this is just ridiculous.
>>320377428
>>320398375
That's pretty cool. Do you have it from any other angles?
>>320398728
>>320399327
because i dont know anything about it other than its planned for release
>>320399432
>>320398375
>I gotta go all the way downstairs for one fucking bobbypin
>fuck that, spoonfeed me the goddamn game already
>Space station in Earth orbit
>Has a mining laser
![617x[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/8Jt4AXH.jpg "617x[1].jpg")
>>320399697
>in Earth orbit
>>320377428
Because I don't see why I should get excited for a sequel 16 years after the last game, especially after the fairly recent string of Kickstarted "spiritual successors." There's no guarantee it will be good.
>>320395927
>shitposting
It's not even in beta yet, it's already been confirmed to get FOV sliders (and 90 FOV on PC by default) and if you'd been following it at all you'd know they're putting massive effort into world simulation elements. The prototype gameplay already looks promising keeping in mind they're all placeholder assets. Yeah it's all recorded with controllers because muh cinematic feel appeals to half the audience, doesn't mean they're not making an immersive sim for PC. I'll remain hopeful until I see reason not to be.
>>320401197
I wish there would be a new Thief game, Deadly Shadows was disappointing.
>>320402693
>I wish there would be a new Thief game
>>320402693
anon, I..
they killed it
>>320402693
anyone tried the mod/patch that removes the loading screens?
