http://nichegamer.com/2015/12/dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-not-coming-west-due-to-cultural-differences-says-sony-boss/
> It’s due to cultural differences. The West has it’s own thinking about how to depict women in games media which is different from Japan. Speaking personally, if it is a representation acceptable to the general people in Japan, I wouldn’t be concerned about it in Japan. It’s a difficult problem.
>I loved Dragon’s Crown, but that title got some criticism. And it got extremely low points in reviews.
"They're not a problem." /v/ says
The same happened in the 80s, this is nothing new.
>>320370893
haha
Say it with me, SJWs will never take your games away
>>320370987
Say it with me now: Jim Sterling is NOT a cuck
>>320370987
It's not censorship you pissbabies!
>>320370981
It happened by politicians though, not people who infiltrated dev teams and game press
>>320371716
The effect is the same either way, Japan has not changed their views on the western market.
>>320370893
So have the people claiming this was about sales or whatever shut the fuck up or what?
>>320371779
How is the effect same?
Did japan stop making violent video games in the 80s for the west?
Did devs censor themselves and pandered to these politicians?
The answer is no
>>320371865
Its the same, Japan knows the west hates boobs, this is nothing new.
>>320370893
1. he's right.
2. the game should still be imported or available for purchase to anyone, ever in the west.
a unified view of the world, multicultural in anything would be bad and useless. there are many cultures out there and different views. if i want to see them, i go there.
same thing with the games. i want to play a game that has an eastern touch to it, and eastern culture, i play the game, unadapted to anything. let things like they are.
Why does /v/ love shilling nichegamer?
He's not wrong. People can still publish their games over here though regardless of the response they get. Some people like the Senran Kagura developer wants to spread his happy boobs across the world, some other devs like the guys from DoA want their series to be respected and don't want to deal with the negative bias they get here. If you really would care that much you'd start learning japanese.
>>320372049
>he's right
No he fucking isn't. Kotaku and press were widely mocked for their overreaction.
You're letting the minority who have infiltrated the press to shape the industry, congradulations.
>>320372000
Because they proudly support their troops
He's absolutely on point, japanese oversexualized games fucking suck anyway so nothing of value is lost
>>320372049
>>320371908
>DoA sells more in America than Japan
>HURR HES RIGHT
Fucking kill yourself
>>320372135
>You're letting the minority who have infiltrated the press to shape the industry, congradulations.
You mean the minority who makes up for the biggest share of the video game market and buys the newest CoDs, plays league of legends and watches streams? You're the minority, japanese games are mostly those wierd games for the biggest part of the video game community. Most of the games that don't consider western releases sell about 10-50k still manage to make enough money for sequels.
>>320370893
>And it got extremely low points in reviews.
Who the fuck takes reviewers seriously? Gaming "journalists" are the biggest joke ever.
>>320372306
That doesnt prove a thing.
>>320371629
Turning already created characters into other races/genders like SJW want is an abomination. It is always a useless change that ruins whatever adaptation they try it on. If you want a hero to be some other race or gender then create a new one that makes it part of their identity.
>>320372310
COD players hate bobs and hot girls? Ever see LOL streams with hot girls and their tits out making a killing?
More casual "gamers" will always like hot girls and big boobs
>SJW faggot minority asshurt over games
>Cultural Differences
AHAHAHAHA KILL YOURSELF NIP
>>320370893
AGAIN, OP?nothing new under the sun, son. /thread
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How is it possible to be this disconnected with the people who buy your games?
Do they really think the SJWs are the majority?
>Unpopular ideas can be silenced, and inconvenient facts kept dark, without the need for any official ban. Anyone who has lived long in a foreign country will know of instances of sensational items of news — things which on their own merits would get the big headlines — being kept right out of the British press, not because the Government intervened but because of a general tacit agreement that “it wouldn’t do” to mention that particular fact.
>So far as the daily newspapers go, this is easy to understand. The British press is extremely centralized, and most of it is owned by wealthy men who have every motive to be dishonest on certain important topics. But the same kind of veiled censorship also operates in books and periodicals, as well as in plays, films and radio. At any given moment there is an orthodoxy, a body of ideas which it is assumed that all right-thinking people will accept without question. It is not exactly forbidden to say this, that or the other, but it is “not done” to say it, just as in mid-Victorian times it was “not done” to mention trousers in the presence of a lady. Anyone who challenges the prevailing orthodoxy finds himself silenced with surprising effectiveness.
>>320370893
>j-j-just ignore them y-y-yy-you g-guys a-a-and everything is gg-g-gonna be a-a-alright
>The reaction towards it of most English intellectuals will be quite simple: “It oughtn’t to have been published.” Naturally, those reviewers who understand the art of denigration will not attack it on political grounds but on literary ones. They will say that it is a dull, silly book and a disgraceful waste of paper. This may well be true, but it is obviously not the whole of the story. One does not say that a book “ought not to have been published” merely because it is a bad book. After all, acres of rubbish are printed daily and no one bothers.
He also thought it had a low metacritic review score when it was 80+, maybe the question caught him off gaurd and he talked out of his ass
I say let the SJW have their way. Either history will right itself or humanity will burn itself. What is right will win in the end, even if it is an inglorious victory.
>>320370893
I honestly don't blame SJWs.
Japanese games are becoming more and more niche and aimed at Akihabara Otaku with way too much disposable income, it's why say SMTxFE is now some shitty animu Idol game that will crash and burn in the west because idol culture is foreign to us and idol music is atrociously bad, but it's popular with Otaku and Otaku spend lots of money on not only the game, but figma, music, pillows and other merchandise.
The Japanese are looking too inward with their own internal markets and pandering to their own niche audiences It's why they let fucking Marie Rose and Honoka become the faces of DoA.
Suck to be you I guess
Now excuse me I have a pile of thousand of eroge to play
>>320370981
It wasn't the same.
It was a political bandwagon that was often ridiculed by the general public.
Nowadays, it's a "social movement", also a problem addressed by the popular third wave feminism, and recognized AND endorsed by the gaming media.
Just a few days ago we had this discussion on /vr/. Back then, violent, sexist, whatever, games were not criticized by gamers themselves, they were not receiving bad reviews from the media. It was just a small scope of public hysteria done by soccer moms and political opportunists to cause a moral panic.
If you can't see the difference there's nothing more to be said. Continue to bury your head in the sand waiting for it to pass saying "they don't actually have any influence".
>>320372750
doesn't america have its own version of manufactured entertainers?
>>320372750
Your logic is so backwards. They're just listening to the paying customer and that's it. That's just business 101, create products that people want and will buy. It's not like other types of games don't exist to cater to other tastes. Just because you hate a certain type of game, doesn't mean it should be censored or banned. I hate sports games but you would never hear me telling the world to ban and censor them. It's retarded as fuck.
SJW aren't even paying costumers or buyers of these products, yet they demand it all censored instead of ignoring it. It's all because of how corrupted and double standard gaming journalists are for putting sjw on the spotlight when they don't deserve it. If they aren't giving good coverage for some free fucks, then they are just promoting their friend's product with 10/10 scores when it clearly doesn't deserve it.
>>320373490
It was the same but it wasn't backed up by the internet, so whiners were silenced by the distance.
>>320372135
>Kotaku and press were widely mocked for their overreaction.
by whom? you?
by a few smallers sites and 4chan? oh boy that sure showe'em
>>320372594
/v/ reaction in a nutshell.
why are you guys so afraid of confrontation?
>>320373753
It isn't most of /v/. Just a few retarded idiots and sjws that wants /v/ to ignore it.
>>320373674
it was not even the same demographic complaining, how could it possibly be the same in terms of impact and influence?
you do realize the difference between soccer moms criticizing what they don't understand to the very gaming industry (media and western devs) criticizing right?
>>320373685
Where is Kotaku now? Oh wait, they're gone, just like Gaider.
>>320373826
but /v/ always ignored it. Look at this thread. Half is making some relevant comments addressing the subject, the other is trying to minimize and throwing sand into our eyes with the usual excuses "it will pass", "it's nothing new", "they might be right". And this is during european hour.
Makes me glad I live in Japan. Finally a reason to live in this God forsaken hell hole.
>>320373927
>gone
really?
lol
>>320373753
>virgin neckbeards
>confrontation
pick one
I see you restarted this thread, fishing for shitreplies
>you didn't protect her smile from SJW
>>320374021
Agreed, we need some Americans in here to set things straight. That'll get you your confrontation.
>>320374021
I don't see you doing anything about it, fuck face.
None of my games have been affected by this, so I see no reason why I should take the initiative.
If you're so asshurt about it, then do something, suggest something.
Sitting there and crying that /v/ won't do it for you isn't going to get anywhere.
>>320370893
Stop playing mainstream memegames and censoring won't happen.
>>320372731
When in history has the "wrong" side ever won?
The winners decide what's right and what's wrong, anon.
>>320374410
>I don't see you doing anything about it
>prove yourself to me
kek'd, fucking retarded SJW enabler.
>None of my games have been affected by this, so I see no reason why I should take the initiative.
entitled little cunt living in a bubble.
>do something, suggest something.
Here? To be banned again and dismissed by "nice guys" trying to fuck a purple head? You new here faggot.
>get anywhere.
there's nowhere to get. after all this isn't a problem and it's just an illusion.
>how to smell the virgin "nice guy" on /v/
>>320374778
>Call him out
>He shits the bed and spergs out
Like pottery.
>>320374410
>None of my games have been affected by this, so I see no reason why I should take the initiative
Prevention is better than cure
>>320374914
>call him out
on what? or it's just an expression you learned to parrot?
>>320374410
>None of my games have been affected by this, so I see no reason why I should take the initiative.
Pathetically passive. Smells millennials in here.
>>320370893
Already a month of anki.
In five or six months i should be fluent enough to play my nipponese vidya from the source.
>>320375113
On your crying.
>Waah /v/ won't listen, why won't you solve my problems for me
Pitiful, tbqh.
>>320375080
True, but I'm in the midst of learning Jap, so who gives a fuck.
You can deal with your hoards of legitimate faggots and women treating you like shit.
>>320375358
>I'm in the midst of learning Jap
> women treating you like shit
>>320375358
>True, but I'm in the midst of learning Jap, so who gives a fuck.You can deal with your hoards of legitimate faggots and women treating you like shit.
No need to be unnecessarily hostile. The 2020 olympics will make sure that Japan will become as castrated as the west so my statement still stands.
>>320370893
>We have entrenched ourselves within the casual market and are leveraging our ability to blackmail the consumer with it, who's warned us repeatedly that just such an outcome would occur and in one final act of betrayal have flipped the hardcore player to videogaming's chief obstacle to be overcome by the new, more lucrative feminist class, which totally earned their success on merit alone. Totally.
>>320375319
Stick with it friend. Only passed N2 and 99% of games are no problem to play, the other 1% just require occasional dictionary referencing.
No more worrying about whether a game will come over. Being completely detached from any censorship debates. Not caring if a dub was good or bad. It's a good feel.
just start spamming every review with replies about how "CORRUPT, OBESE WHITE KEKOLDS IN THE SJW MEDIA DON'T REPRESENT THE VIEWS OR OPINIONS OF PAYING CUSTOMERS
>>320375560
This is and has already taken place.
Read what journalists, actual news sources and all these people are saying.
They're forcing it on you on purpose and are being told to keep doing so EVEN AT A LOSS.
It's nuts.
>>320375289
>be my personal army
No, start voting with your feet and wallet.
>>320372320
I honestly don't understand it. Don't people know by now that video game reviews are a complete sham?
When the score isn't bought by the company that made the game it's rated highly because the other games in the series happen to be or because of the reviewer's own personal bias.
Shit The Phantom Pain was missing a whole third of the game and yet people gave it 10s everywhere.
>>320375809
>I twist words to try and invalidate your argument
>>320375940
>doesn't understand he didn't try, he just announced the obvious.
>>320375809
>be my personal army
What are you talking about nigger?
>>320375983
Why are you so divisive? Sure it's not affecting you now, but it can still affect you. By the time it does, it'll be too late and instead of us whining, it will be you.
Is this gonna become a daily thread goddamn can we please make a censorship general or something
>>320375983
If it's not effecting you then why are you even discussing something that not a problem to you? For "not affecting me" you sure are wasting an awful lot of time pointing that out and replying to everyone.
>>320373591
>They're just listening to the paying customer and that's it.
Yeah, and their paying customer are mostly Japanese Otaku's, not western audiences.
Also lets be honest here 99% of the games coming out of Japan at the moment suck complete ass and most of these animu games are nothing more than bare bones button mashers selling themselves entirely on echhi.
>彼が日本語を話すことができない
>>320377643
But I can you special snowflake syndrome fuck face.
>>320378037
>fuck you special snowflake
>I'm special too
>>320370893
Question to anyone who genuinely believes anything spoken by a console manufacturer (or any organisation with shareholders):
What is the definition of a fucking video game?
Maybe that's the source of all your fucking problems eh?
>>320378115
but it's nothing special anon, stop projecting intentions.
why don't you go back to tell everyone how it's not a problem to you?
>>320377643
>shit from google translate
desu sempai onichan hentai whitu piggu boku
But what about things like this?
>>320378668
what? han solo getting rekt?
>>320377404
But that's bullshit as far as the sales statistics of the previous two DOAX games are concerned. Those sold more copies in America than in Japan, if the statistics that keep getting posted are to be believed.
>>320375358
>この利己的な野郎
Do you not have fucking principles? Do you not care about anything that doesn't directly affect you, even if it might do so indirectly? Does your world actually end with you?
No it doesn't, you've just convinced yourself it does. You're a fucking クソ虫
>>320370893
>dragons crown average 8/10 everywhere
>sells over one million copies not including ps+
Fuck is this faggot talking about?
So the west allows burkas and such because they are cultural modes of expression despite being very real depictions of very real patriarchal structures, but entirely fictional depictions of entirely fictional people are indirectly censored away?
SJWs need to be banned by law. They are literally social INjustice warriors and always have been.
>>320379534
8/10 is pretty low tbqh for a Japanese game with a 1 million dollar American budget and years of investment.
>>320375319
What's your progress?
>>320370893
Reminder that cultural marxism already has all the footholds it needs in the West.
In the future, the most important person for the consumer will not be the developer, it will not be the publisher, it will be the diversity officer. In fact, the games are already undergoing gentrification much like those uncouth neighborhoods get prettied up for clean cut hipster crowd.
Feast your eyes.
>>320378668
>Star Wars spoilers on /v/
What the fuck?
>>320380248
he probably thinks someone cares...dunno
>it doesn't affect me
>i wasn't going to buy it anyway
>weebshit, who cares
>only pedos would play this
>it doesn't affect gameplay!
>>320378668
saved
>>320380589
>>320379534
They go by the vocal minority, they think the SJWs are the majority when in fact they are just very loud about it.
>>320372517
Games are expensive, and GOOD market research isn't cheap. It's a rough time for the industry.
If you care about Japanese games and haven't started studying the language by now, you have only yourself to blame.
>>320378953
I do understand this but I would say that now the series is on Playstation and VITA, they expect it to sell better in Japan than in the west since previous games were Xbox exclusives, also their marketing strategy for this game is based around stupidly expensive collectors editions (and on top of that figmas).
Also I have a feeling they aren't comfortable entirely with Marie Rose being the face of this game going down in the west so well.
>its not censorship if the government isn't doing it
>>320377404
> Also lets be honest here 99% of the games coming out of Japan at the moment suck complete ass.
Nope, sounds like you haven't played any games anon. Why are fucks like you are on /v/ shitty up the board while reading Kotaku reviews?
Maybe go and play Sunset the cleaning simulator since that's better than 99% of Japanese games by your standards cuckface.
You guys have the misconception that SJWs don't play games.
>>320385998
they do???
SJWs are helping the mudslimes establish sharia law. Every woman is gonna have to be covered. It's not gonna stop with our entertainment, but it will end with us.
>>320372310
Yea those cod and league players, they really hate hyper sexualiEd stuff.
kappa you dumb cunt
>>320370893
Yeah, because people all over the world are not united by a hobby. They sure as hell don't want the product. How the fuck do you fail to research market like that.
