>Voice acting removed entirely
>Never mentioned this anywhere outside of a few posts in Gaijinworks' forums until yesterday's press release
>Game releases today
>All pre-orders through their site are non-refundable
Reminder not to give Victor Ireland money.
It's also like $40 right with no physical copy, right?
Yeah, fuck that. Hopefully someone with a budget will bring 6 over eventually.
>>320276613
I did investigate a little before buying and it was mentioned at some websites and interviews but yeah information in general was vague. Too bad the original game with its voices is great.
>Bring over the one game without a cute shota
Fuck you Ireland
>>320276808
$31 on PSN. There was a physical release but I believe it was pre-order only, and physical cost $42.
>>320276613
>voice acting removed
What the fuck, it's an outdated game from an old portable, why the hell cripple it?
Welp guaranteed pirate and waiting for a voice patch
>>320277221
He wasn't willing to pay for the voices. He's stated that the game won't sell enough to recoup the costs of licensing the voices and if people want the voices back in future games they'd better buy this one anyway.
>>320276613
would you rather have a bad englsh VO?
>waiting for PSN to update so I can redeem my digital code
>>320277221
Gaijinworks is that poor that they couldn't even license the JP voices.
People will probably make a patch to put them back in soon enough though. I suggest getting that.
>>320276941
I've read every press release I've seen on it across Siliconera and Gematsu, and yesterday's Siliconera article was the first I heard of this.
>>320277374
Of course not. I'm pretty sure it was even previously stated that the game would be Jap audio only, which would have been preferable.
>>320277458
I remember it being said there would be no voices back when the pre-orders were going down, and haven't been following it too closely, but maybe I'm just remembering things that didn't happen.
>>320277221
Not defending it but Japanese VA makes developers sign really annoying contracts. Where if they sell their games in the west they will need to repay them. That's why Xseed doesn't do dual audio because Falcom uses VA that will cost them more than the actual game license. So Ireland only choice was either pay for dub or leave it alone. And he felt paying for the voices won't really get more people to support the game so he went the cheaper route.
>Giving Victor "Idolm@ster is a game for paedophiles and I want to fix it to appeal to the west" Ireland money
Not even once.
>>320277221
No budget.
Even if you keep the JP audio the company still has to pay the licensing fees to use the voices of the JP actors. That's also why companies don't do dual-audio as often. It's cheaper to just choose one voice track instead of having to pay for the original voices and also hire actors to do the dub.
>>320276613
This is a super niche game. Shouldn't you be grateful you're getting it at all? The entitlement of gamers is astounding sometimes.
>>320277706
In Xseed/Falcom's case the voice acting is so expensive that simply getting some battle voices is too expensive to deal with.
Voices costing more to license than the game isn't exactly unusual when dealing with non-AAA studios, it's just that Ireland is too cheap to do it.
> So Ireland only choice was either pay for dub or leave it alone. And he felt paying for the voices won't really get more people to support the game so he went the cheaper route.
More like he realised a dub would cost money too, so fuck that.
>>320277901
No, Ireland. If you're going to fuck up a game in localisation then you shouldn't bring it over at all. Leave it to some other company who will do it properly.
>>320278135
>implying this would've been localized otherwise
>>320278310
>Implying shitty localisations are preferable to fan translations
Oh shut up, like you were ever going to pay money for a psp game. You know you were going to pirate it from the fucking start.
>>320278046
>More like he realised a dub would cost money too, so fuck that.
Well that was what I said but in a fairly nicer tone. I get why he decided to not include any VA. This is a game where he hopes to build some fans to him. What really sucks is him not being open about the lack of any voices. If he explained it a month ago about why there's no VA than I'm sure less people are going to be upset. But since people are really only finding out the day of release it really feels like a dick move.
>>320278430
No one has ever fan translated any games in the Summon Night series
>>320278430
Yes, because fan translations are infallible as well, or a certainty. Though this has probably cemented 5 will never get a fan translation.
>>320278558
Swordcraft Story 3.
>>320278310
This one probably wouldn't, but SN6 was likely. Now we're stuck with Gaijinworks having the license and SN6 will probably be stripped of voice acting too.
>>320278469
>No one has ever changed their minds about purchasing a product based on information that they've been given about it
>>320276613
There is something wrong with your company when you make companies like XSEED and NISA look good.
>>320278542
>What really sucks is him not being open about the lack of any voices. If he explained it a month ago about why there's no VA than I'm sure less people are going to be upset. But since people are really only finding out the day of release it really feels like a dick move.
This. Trying to hide this shit and hope you'll get away with it is not how you build a fanbase.
>>320278704
You know it's possible that Namdai can still do SN6 if they want. I doubt Ireland would pull a Natsume.
Vic Ireland scamming weebs out of money by half assing a localization.
He's been doing this for twenty years, why should he stop now?
Besides
>supporting Vic
>buying a handheld game
>buying a last gen handheld game
People this dumb deserve to be robbed just so that they have less money to spend on food and hopefully die quicker.
Seriously, how retarded could you be to do this?
>>320279010
Why would Bamco bother with SN6 when they've never bothered with SN before, and now some company has come to do the games for them? And Ireland has said plenty of times that he wants to do more of the series.
>>320279089
As a Sega Saturn owner back in the day I have a lot of respect for him. At the end of the console's life the only games worth playing were the ones localized by Working Designs.
This was a pretty easy one to add.
>>320280619
Holy shit hahahaha
>>320280619
What's going on with Koei Tecmo?
>>320282410
The Surge Concerto games from Gust.
Ciel noSurge came first and was a sort of visual novel / crafting game on the Vita. Ar noSurge is a direct sequel to that and heavily relies on the events of Ciel to tell a complete story, to the point that the only way to fight the true final boss in Ar and get the true ending requires you to carry over your save data from Ciel.
Koei-Tecmo didn't bother bringing over Ciel. They localised Ar and marketed it as a stand-alone game instead, and since you couldn't import your save data, you had no way to fight the true final boss or get the true ending. The true ending also unlocked the outfit changing mode, so that was out of the localisation too.
>>320276957
There's a shota protagonist actually. Sadly he grows up.
>>320276613
You should be glad this game even came out at all you entitled faggot and your even whining about physical released for a dead console that only only pirates use anymore oh wow.
Why don't you just learn Japanese if you like their voices so much?
>>320277720
Seriously?
>>320283568
Yes.
http://nichegamer.com/2015/07/gaijinworks-interview-how-victor-ireland-and-crew-are-localizing-the-rarer-games/
>Brandon: Well, coming off of that―what are your views on censorship? And even self-censorship.
>Victor: Situational. In general I’d give censorship a NO. But I’d also argue there are cases where self-censorship is probably appropriate. People get really upset when games, and especially hentai games, are censored. But there are some things you just cannot do in the US, they aren’t appropriate.
>For example, and I’d love to do this one: THE iDOLM@STER. Those are great games, but they have some stuff that I don’t think would fly here. Basically, it’s borderline pedophilia. Those scenes, like it or not, are gonna either be removed entirely or repurposed for something else.
Also,
>Cody: This one’s a fun question. I’ve heard you did some voice acting for a few things that Working Designs localized? Can you talk a bit about that?
>Victor: Basically, I don’t do voice acting, as a rule. I’m kind of just a fill-in guy. We get to the end, realize there’s a part without voices, and I quickly just fill it in. Or, if we wanna do something funny for fans to find, we’ll do that.
>>320280619
So this is just Atlus fags trying to start a meme?
The Square Enix doesn't even look accurate like at all.
>>320284124
>So this is just Atlus fags trying to start a meme?
But the Atlus one is just as negative as every other one. If you can't see that you're an idiot.
>The Square Enix doesn't even look accurate like at all.
You should be familiar with Drakengard, you filthy casual.
So torrent where, then?
>>320284402
This. Torrent where? Actually even better: torrent of modded version with voices where? I'll emulate it on PC.
>>320284124
Those edits aren't new dipshit
>>320282915
Was the missing true final boss also the case with the Vita version of Ar Nosurge?
>>320276613
>>Never mentioned this anywhere outside of a few posts in Gaijinworks' forums until yesterday's press release
It was stated months ago.
>>320276808
No one with a budget even wants to touch Summon Night. You're lucky gaijinworks enjoy masochism and decided to bring over a PSP game in 2015. The only way 6 will ever have a chance of coming over is if the bigger guys see there's a lot of interest in 5.
Waiting for the fixed version. Already imported a new JP copy for like $9 to support the game. I probably would've bought this if they didn't remove the original voice acting.
>>320285173
I've heard one person say that the Vita version restored the true ending, but nothing more about it. I won't be touching it until I have the means to play Ciel regardless.
>GAIJINWORKS @gaijinworks 39 sec.
Just got word Summon Night 5 won't b on the PSN store until EOD (End of Day), which means by 6pm PST.
>>320285304
>outside of a few posts in Gaijinworks' forums
>>320285765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzKnmfBITo4
Months ago.
>>320280619
NoA needs to be mixed more, have some insanely Japanese things left intact, and some things way over-localized
>>320285903
>Posts video that was only shared in Gaijinworks' forums
>>320279089
this
i mean, the whole Lunar cast was local nobodies and shit. they couldn't have even given us dogshit VA and said the truth that the JAP va would have been too expensive.
>>320286081
Fucking seiyuu yakuza
Will this be listed only on the US PSN or will it get a UK/EU release? Right now can't see it in either.
Should I get it? I loved Stella glow. This looks neat. Hows the gameplay compare to something like Stella Glow?
Also what is that other one on vita that's tactics like with jiggly boobies?
>>320286016
That would be a valid point if it were an unlisted video.
>>320286081
This is the first time I've ever seen somebody complain they DIDN'T get a dogshit dub.
>>320286016
You never searched for info this whole time? Sounds like you weren't interested in the game.And I'm not purchasing it either.
>>320286409
see
>>320285710
EU store doesn't update until tomorrow so obviously it won't be out until at least then.
>>320277325
Yeah, I bought the game and didn't hear about no voices until now. It's fine as long as someone makes a voice patch for it later. Hopefully it's not that difficult to take them from the JP version and put them in the EN version,and hopefully there's enough interest in the game for someone to pick the project up.Meanwhile, I'll just play my other games for now.
>>320284384
How is the only accurate translation just as negative exactly?
>>320286934
Expect the voice patch to be out in 1 week at worst case scenario.
>>320280619
>>320280619
I don't even understand the Koei one.
>>320286954
because its just a dumbass translation to keep the chan bullshit
localize the damn game, not a direct translation
>>320286525
see
>>320277458
Also this dude's pic related is important; they never mentioned any of this shit before taking people's money, in a non-refundable capacity.
An extra point is that there was never any need to look it up because this is something that doesn't happen. Why would you go looking around to make sure the voice acting hasn't been stripped out when it's normally a given that that isn't the case?
>>320286473
>That would be a valid point if it were an unlisted video.
Oh yes, what a wonderful argument. All any company needs to do to share information about a game is upload a video on an unknown Youtube account and then not share that to anyone. If everyone didn't know the video was there and go looking for it, when they had no reason to do so in the first place, it's entirely their fault.
>>320285914
What Treehouse does well is puns and just having fun. KI:U was NoA just doing what they are great at. But anything that involve nudity they are fucking scare and will do everything they can to hide it.
>>320286954
>accurate
Anon confirmed to actually believe that a kotatsu is a Japanese dinner table.
>>320287185
Nigger it was explained literally three posts after.
>>320287186
But it's not a dumbass translation faggot there's no English equivalent to Japanese honorifics and most actual fans want it as similar to the original as possible.
You're literally whining if there is a localization and whining if there isn't one they can't win.
>>320276613
At least they translated it, so it was worth it. Just wait a couple of days until somebody posts the iso with the Japanese voices back.
>>320287221
It was either release without voices or lose money to release the game.
>>320287652
This.
>>320287492
>Atlus
>Accurate
TL note: Chidori means Chidorita
>>320278704
Swordcraft story 3 barely counts. It only has items and monsters translated. The rest is still in moon runes.
>>320287367
It doesn't matter the thing in the image is clearly a kotatsu.
>>320287492
Of course there are. Mister, sir,your higness, your excellency, professor, doctor, all of these and more can be used as indicators of social hierarchy.
>>320280619
Fucking Bamco, every goddamn time.
>>320286473
because we got no dub at all man
thats why
>nobody speaking of the actual gameplay
>only angry there's no VA
So I'm guessing the gameplays shit then?
>>320287730
You rofgot the obligatory -san, -kun, -sama
>>320287780
None of those are accurate or have the same nuance.
>>320287957
According to the moonspeakers it's pretty good.
>>320288056
Yeah because japanese is a special snowflake language and is the only language in the world that can express the complexity of social relations. Read a fucking book nigger.
So is Summon Night actually fun or is it just a bootleg version of Disgaea?
>>320287780
No, he's right. Honorifics should definitely be retained when you're dealing with Japanese games set in Japan with Japanese characters dealing with Japanese culture. Which is what Atlus did. The problem is just that Atlus are fucking retarded and do shit like inserting honorifics where there weren't any before, and not letting the honorifics stand for themselves by inserting stupid nicknames on top of that, eg Chidorita. It's like half their staff supports the literal translation and the other half wants to be as liberal as possible.
>>320287957
/v/ is always looking for an excuse to not buy games.
>I'm not buying it because it's censored and I hate the SJWs responsible
>I'm not buying it because it's uncensored and lolis are gross
>I'm not buying it because it's dub only
>I'm not buying it because it's sub only
>I'm not buying it because there's no voices
>I'm not buying it because there's not enough DLC
>I'm not buying it because there's too much DLC
The only companies the weebs of /v/ like to support are NISA and IFI
>>320287715
What people are annoyed with is that there was no real information about the lack of VA until just now. Most people just wanted Ireland to be honest with them. If him or some PR guy said a month ago "look Japanese VA is REALLY expensive and we want this game to be as successful as possible and sadly that means no VA at all. I know it hurts but a game like this has to have a smaller budget than normal games." That's all they needed to do and by the time the game came out people would have calmed down and accept it. But right now people felt they hide the info from people until the last minute.
>>320288175
Japs have shit taste in everything though.
>>320287735
The patch is still in progress, it wasn't an abandoned UI translation.
>>320287739
Yes, that's why it's not accurate, you retard.
>>320287957
Maybe ask again when the game is actually out. /v/ has barely anyone who actually plays import games.
>>320287715
Does it really matter? Victor is a scumbag who want to censor games. I bet the script for SN5 was heavily altered.
>>320288315
NO STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM MY GLORIOUS JAPANESE GAMES WITH YOUR SHITTY LOCALIZATION YOU FUCKING GHOST FACED SJW SHIT LORD!
>>320288338
How is it? I only remember liking the GBA summon nights which I think were spin offs.
>>320288428
Since when does /v/ plays games? I thought they were all obnoxious virgin neckbeards who incorrectly look up shit for five seconds and then complain about it on some shitty Chinese imageboard.
>>320288428
Gee anon, maybe the localisation companies should stop fucking up the games they're releasing, and then people wouldn't have excuses not to buy them.
>NISA
>A company that fucks up and censors games
I wonder why we didn't get 3.
>>320288443
THIS
THERE IS NO DEFENDING THIS
>>320285903
This is too girly and anime. I can't play this.
>>320289107
Too late in the GBA's lifespan. SS3 getting released in English would have been pretty much the same as how SN5 is getting released now. It's an insane time to release a PSP game.
>>320288991
You complain about NISA and IFI being meme loving fucks that censor their games but you still buy every shitty censored game they pump out just because they have dual audio and shitty LEs with nendoroid petits
>>320285903
Can't wait to pirate it. TORRENT WHERE?
>>320288991
NISA wouldn't be that bad if their games just worked. Criminal Girls was their lowest point, though. There was no reason to even localize that if it was going to be gutted that badly.
>>320288705
If Ireland's work on Lunar is anything to go by it'll at least be full of memes and pop culture references.
>>320289423
>but you still buy every shitty censored game they pump out
Nah. The only NISA game I've bought since Disgaea 4 and all its bullshit DLC was htol#niq, and that's because they didn't fuck that up.
I haven't bought shit from IFI because their games are shit, even if they do have dual audio.
>>320289343
No I mean SN3.
Sorry anon
>>320278923
What's wrong with XSEED and NISA? Not that I have played any NISA game for a long time.
>>320285903
>+tuberoako777 (But at least we were able to keep the battle voices and some spot voice here and there)
Oh thought everyone meant everything would be completely silent. If some battle quotes are in I'm fine with no VA for the actual text part.
>>320287221
>an unknown Youtube account
It's their fucking official company account. Game news sites have featured the video.
>>320276613
>not having a hacked PSP, emulating or having a vita with TN-V
>>320287730
>yukaricchi to yukatan
>risecchi to risette
>kuma to teddie
>lastname-kun to firstname-kun
>community to social link
>shadow hour to dark hour
>>320289858
Xseed are extremely liberal. They arguably preserve the tone but they certainly don't preserve what's ever actually said.
Also endless delays.
NISA are pic related. And this image is already quite outdated.
>>320289978
>I'm fine with no VA for what's the actual majority of the game
>>320289107
According to the moonspeakers it's the best SN
>>320290160
>Game news sites have featured the video.
Such as?
I also like how you ignore the point made that there was no reason to search it out or even watch it in the first place because there was never any reason to assume that the voices were removed in the first place.
>>320276957
What about the blacksmith?
>>320290558
Gematsu, for one. And don't even give me shit about how it's not "big enough".
There's no reason to watch a preview of a game you're excited to buy? Makes a lot of sense. I'm not saying they should have to check if there were voices, but to pretend there's no reason at all someone wouldn't watch a video for a game they want is retarded.
>>320291452
Because I'd already seen Japanese gameplay footage and knew what to expect?
>>320291601
So you don't care about seeing the quality of the translation at all?
>>320292117
Dubious translation quality is something I could put up with for the sake of supporting the series getting localised. Removing voices entirely is not.
