ITT: We recall games we thought were awesome in our childhoods but when we went back and played them, they sucked ass
>Sa2 was actually shit it's just nostalgia meme
please stop
>>320270053
I didn't even know it was a meme. It's what I remembe being the most legitamently disappointing when I played it later in life and realized how ass it was.
>>320270053
Sorry dude, it's true. A couple of the sonic levels are still kinda fun and the chao garden is a cute little tamagotchi minigame, but overall the game is only slightly better than the average 3d sonic shit.
>>320270230
Yeah sure buddy
This fucking piece of trash game.
i feel like saying you're wrong but i'm entitled to my opinion and so are you
>>320267805
It was a good game...
Sonic level, broken multiplayer, chaos garden, emblem to get...
>>320270483
I literally bought the game for Xbox 360 and steam, played through both campaigns and went to the god damn lizard asshole and couldn't beat him because the controls are ass and he's a douche
>>320267805
nigger you best be joking.
I played that game again and it was still good.
Oh lord I have a lot.
Starfox Adventures
Ed Edd n Eddy The Mis-Edventures
Crash Bandicoot The Wrath Of Cortex
Guitar Hero
There's a lot more I just can't think of them right now
>>320270747
this. i still fucking play this game all the time.
I know y'all jelly of my classic 90's kid sonic fanboy starter kit
>>320270952
>sonic heroes
>all new sonic
we're we so retarded that they had to remind us it was a new sonic?
I was honestly disappointed when I finally watched GG do Sonic '06 and I realized that all the shit it got was for being only marginally worse than the adventure games. People just finally realized that the formula was garbage and only stayed above water because people know the characters
>>320270747
God damn no it sucked balls come on people the controls are shit, the mech levels are a joke, the treasure hunter levels are the same booty copy and pasted all over this shitty game, and the last level is ridiculously difficult.
>>320270756
>Crash Bandicoot The Wrath Of Cortex
But crash 2 is still good, r-right? I was thinking of playing it again and I don't think I could handle the disappointment
>>320270952
>90s
Here's your reply
>>320271271
>controls are shit
>mech levels are a joke
>treasure hunter levels were the same
>last level was too hard
neo /v/ everyone.
>>320271384
It was really bad
>>320270720
Are you 5?
>>320270230
>>320270423
When I played it for the first time in about 7 years since i played it when I was like 12, it was exactly as I remembered it in literally every possible way, from the controls to what levels wer the most fun to the admittedly shitty camera and so on.
I had just as much fun with the treasure and mech stages as I did when I first played it whn I was 10 or so: Eggman and kunckle's stages are consistently great (fuck death chamber though), Tail's stages are good, and rouges ranges from serviceable to terrible
>>320271487
Point is I played both campaigns.
It really is as bad as 06 people just less glitchy
>>320271271
>Ridiculously difficult
How is the M.S. treating you?
>>320270720
I don't think Sa2 has aged poorly or that it's a bad game, but yeah, the orb parts of the biolizard fight are a bitch.
>>320271559
>Eggman and kunckle's stages are consistently great
Even when I was 12 most of those stages sucked dick.
![Mr-burns-coffee[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9AovuAF.jpg "Mr-burns-coffee[1].jpg")
>>320267805
>played the steam port of SA2B last year
>it's actually BETTER than I remember it as a kid
both the sanic and treasure hunting stages were the tits, sorry you stopped liking it OP
http://strawpoll.me/6275575
..
>>320271443
Nice counter argument, really well thought out points.
>>320271814
Was this game in 3D also?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfzLOjo6kRg
>AY DIS IS NUCKLES
The moment this series truly lost its shit
>>320272010
Nice comment on his counter argument. Your rating of it truly adds to the conversation at hand.
>>320271256
>watching game grumps
nothing except the presentation and a bit of the platforming hold up
>>320267805
Pretty much every mainline Pokémon game until gen IV.
what about games that remained awesome?
>>320272170
This song gave the game a "Mild Lyrics" label to the game over the word ass.
>>320271787
I think you just have shit taste then.
IMO:
City Escape: A+
Metal Harbor: A
Green Forest: B+
Pyramid Cave: C
Crazy Gadget: E+
Final Rush: C+
Radical Highway: A+
White Jungle: A
Sky Rail: C
Final Chase: C-
Prison Lane: B-
Mission Street: C
Route 101: E-
Hidden Base: C
Eternal Engine: E+
Iron Gate: B+
Sand Ocean: C
Lost Colony: C
Weapons bed: B-
Cosmic Wall: A-
Wild Canyon: C+
Pumpkin Hill: A-
Aquatic Mine: D-
Death Chamber: E+
Meteor Herd: B
Dry Lagoon: C+
Egg Quarters: E+
Security Hall: D
Route 280: E-
Mad Space: D
>>320272170
>implying this isn't dope as fuck and lets us inside the mind of the blackest sonic character
>>320270551
Fuck you I love the shit out of this game I bet you didn't even unlock doll tails
>>320270756
>Starfox Adventures
Are you sure? Looking back at it, holy shit for a 2002 game it looked amazing and that was despite it being a N64 port.
>>320272395
Anon, that game is a terrible example of that
dem aiming controls
dat shit story
dat ridiculously fustrating final boss
dat shit, uninteresting boring ass game pace
>>320271384
I played crash 2 recently, it was fine. I still love it
>>320272425
also for the quote, "You're damn right, Knuckles." in deeper.
>>320271389
>getting flustered over a clear as fuck joke
This place is so retarded, it hurts.
>>320272460
>half the stages are C or worse
>5 full stages ranked at E
did you just realize this game was shit?
>>320272626
boss is easy what are you talking about?
>>320272460
>hating on pyramid cave
>hating on death chamber
>putting either of the jungle stages above C-
>liked meteor herd but hated mad space
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hating on the motherfucking driving stages
I don't understand this list at all
I liked this game because I love Timesplitters 2 and this was what Codemasters made between Timesplitters 2 and 3. It kept me occupied while I was waiting for TS3 to come out. Looking back it was pretty terriblr though.I'm still waiting for Timesplitters 4
>>320272395
Please no. I love R&C in general, but the original has not aged well, and in my experience, is downright frustrating at many points when played today.
2 and 3 still hold up great, though. Honesty, if they had shoehorned in strafing and tidied up some areas during the HD port process, I'm sure I'd be far more forgiving, but as it is, R&C 1 is just too dated for me.
>>320272906
I forgot the image like a dumb idiot.
>>320272626
>having taste this horrible
anon are you ok?
>>320272460
>Mad Space: D
This had to be the absolute worst level. I spent 2 hours as a child trying to figure that shit out.
>>320272738
Those are relatve ranking. C and above I would consider to be good, D is still fun even if frustrating, E are the only ones I think are more frustrating then fun.
>>320272785
Pyramid cave would be a B if not for the fucking key slot things that ruin the pace of the level.
Death chamber is ass to navigate around because there's only 1 way in and out of each room.
Not sure what your deal is with the jungle levels.
Meteor herd is fun to fuck around in and to navigate around, and has fantastic music. I bet you are one of th people who think treasure stages are shit because of how long they take when thye whole point of them is to be chill.
>>320270551
game was shit but soundtrack was GOTY
![Kingdom_Hearts_II_(PS2)[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kI52hsp.jpg "Kingdom_Hearts_II_(PS2)[1].jpg")
>>320271814
Here's your (You)
How many of you fucks actually reached the biolizard as a kid
Even today I can't beat him
>>320272785
>Liking the driving stages
literally how?
>>320271637
English motherfucker, do you speak it? And it absolutely not anywhere near as bad as 06. Its pretty impressive how bad that game is.
>>320273670
>Shitty early 2000s R&B pop
Why Sega?
>>320273669
I always hated the aesthetics on the jungle levels, everything was just an ugly mess of green on all sides of you. The platforming itself was average.
I really liked the treasure hunting levels, but meteor herd isn't fun to navigate at all. Can't stand the verticality of it, I honestly kind of like mad space's gimmicks replaying it as an adult.
>>320273858
How not? They were a fun diversion. Tails' stage in particular saving you from another mech slog was a nice surprise.
>>320273669
>D is still fun
The rosiest of goggles
>>320273784
I used to get sweaty palms fighting the Biolizard with Shadow, that theme made it so eerie too
>>320274045
>They were a fun diversion.
no they weren't, they controlled like shit and the levels were super boring
>Tails' stage in particular saving you from another mech slog was a nice surprise.
BEING BETTER THAN THE WORST SHIT IN THE GAME DOES NOT MAKE IT GOOD
>>320274045
>Can't stand the verticality of it,
That's what I love about it, you can just glide around and dive for like entire minutes at a time.
>>320272596
It wasn't an N64 Port. Development started on N64, and then was carried over to GameCube. There still exists footage of Dinosaur Planet.
This entire console
>>320267805
>none of them
I could actually identify shit games when I was a kid and teen, because the ones I loved are just as good as they were, and some are even better now that I can appreciate how much more they offered then the crap today.
I feel like everyone saying that SA2 is good are the same people who think OoT is better than TP
>>320274750
sonic, ristar and comix zone are all pretty good to this day but their difficulty is fucked
>>320271271
>controls shit
good one bud but were talking about the game not mech levels
>mech levels are bad
i agree, but it doesn't ruin the game
>last level was too hard
holy shit what a baby you are
>treasure hunting the same
not really? I think they have as much variety as the sonic and shadow levels
>>320275207
No I mean the entire game had shit controls, having a last boss that is stupidly difficult and tedious compared to the rest of the game is shit game design, oh okay so because 1/3 of the game was pretty much unplayable, you count that as "not ruining the game". And the treasure hunter levels are subjective, subjectively ass.
>>320276124
>>320275207
>hating the mech levels
>>320275207
How many more times do I have to hear knuckles say "HOYA HOYA HOYA" when trying to find a stupid gem in the dirt?
>>320276236
>not hating the mech levels
hold button
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
release button
everything dies
hold button
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
release button
everything dies
move slow
jump like shit
everything is easy
>>320272460
>City Escape: A+
>Crazy Gadget: E+
>Radical Highway: A+
>Eternal Engine: E+
>Lost Colony: C
your list is bad and you should feel bad
>>320270230
Just shut the fuck up. You are parroting ProJared just like every other little twat who makes SA2 threads.
Learn how to form your own opinion you fucking sheep.
And if it's just a troll thread, then good job. You got me. 7/10.
Better list:
City escape: B+
everything else: shit
>>320276794
I have no fucking clue who pro Jared is you dipshit, these are my own observations.
Is it such an anomaly to your tiny brain that two people can experience the same shitty experience when playing a fundamentally shitty game?
>>320267805
Coming back to this recently made me realize Final Chase and Final Rush are shitty stages.
>>320276794
>If two people have the same opinion that means one is parroting the other
You can't be this retarded, those are well known flaws of that title
>>320276794
wow you're fucking stupid lol
>>320276794
ProJared is saying the same shit that everyone has said for years. Even when the game was released people complained about how every level that wasn't Sonic or Shadow sucked, just like Sonic Adventure.
This is like the few retards who think shitting on Sonic '06 didn't happen before Game Grumps played it when it was the fucking disappointment of the decade ever since its release.
>>320277032
Final Rush is tolerable if you treat it as more of a point-farming exercise than a proper stage
Final Chase is just buggy crap
>>320276794
I don't know man, I feel the same way and I haven't seen the video. I loved SA2 as a kid, but when I went back and played it I realized it was a total mess. SA1 held up a lot better.
>>320272170
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGAvaUZOqXc
This was my favorite fighting game for a while. It's so fucking bad, just the worst fighter I've ever played.
>>320267805
Yup, SA2 was a chore to replay again, I didn't even finish it again. Kid me had a lot more tolerance for shit games.
>>320273015dat twist
I thought SA2 was really good.
As in 9/10 even after replaying it recently.
That was unexpected.
Very boring.
>>320277328
Not him, but you sound like:
>LEL KEK! XD U R SO DUM WHEN IS THE NEXT PEWDEEPIE EPISODE UP GUISE?!?
>>320276712
Explain why you feel that way then.
>>320277809
I find that laugable. SA1 is clunkier and janky then Sa2 in every way Sa2 is clunky and janky.
Can we all agree that this is the worst Sonic game?
Evil Zone
>>320278796
Not when we have labyrinth, 06 and 3d blast on 8-bit consoles. Considering only the popular games, yes I can say it is the most overrated.
>>320267805
SA2 is bad but in a good kind of way. It's hard to describe but I feel like despite being an overall bad game, one can still enjoy it. It had a lot of shit levels for sure, but it also had a lot of awesome levels to and I felt compelled to play through it to completion. It's like the devs really tried even though they fell short of their goal.
Whereas Sonic 2006 on the other hand was absolute garbage. It had no redeeming qualities and nothing compelled you to see the game through. Since the game was rushed, you can tell the devs gave up and just said fuck it with everything that wasn't complete or polished.
>>320277809
>SA1 held up a lot better.
What? SA1 aged 10x worse than 2. Its animations are laughably bad.
>>320278796
It's bad, but not Sonic 2006 bad.
Are there....really people defending Mad Space in this thread? Every level in sa2 is fun or has interesting gimmick besides mad space. Seriously what the fuck guys
>>320278673
Not the guy you were replying to, but I think SA1 has more charm than SA2 does. However, at the same time, SA2 seems more polished than SA1. It's like, with SA2, Sonic Team reviewed all their mistakes they made with SA1 and cleaned up a lot. So overall you got a better looking, better executed game but it's missing that campy feel that made SA1 stand out.
>>320278673
>SA1 is clunkier and janky then Sa2 in every way Sa2 is clunky and janky.
It's weird then that I had the opposite experience. I played both back-to-back for nostalgia's sake, and SA1 was a lot smoother, the set pieces worked better, and just the level design in general was better. On the Sonic and Tails levels, I never had to slow down or stop as much as I did with the shadow and Sonic stages in SA2. It all flowed a lot better, and controlled a lot better. The level designs also often allowed you to sequence break and find shortcuts in a way that SA2 just doesn't (it's even necessary to sequence break to get A rank on some SA1 levels). I will admit that Big's levels were worse than anything in SA2, but other than that SA1 was better in general. It also had a better story and the dialogue was synced correctly, but that's not as important.
>>320279109
The cutscences are goofy as fuck, but the game plays better and is less glitchy. I preferred SA2 when I was young, but going back it was obvious which was better.
>>320280210
>the game plays better and is less glitchy
SA1 is far glitchier, has way more shit standing between you and the few good levels, and even those levels have way more and way longer sequences where you're just running through loops and shit without actually playing the game.
>>320278235
I used to love the original Psychic Force, back then that intro and the soundtrack always got me hyped up to play the game, though I bet if I played it now i'd probably see how shit it was or something.
I played SA1 when I was 11 (inb4 underage, I'm now 23). By that point it was already """""dated""""" (fuck I hate that word) in that the graphics were not that impressive anymore and the "OMFG SONIC BUT IN THREE DEEEEEEE" glee was not present; meaning I could notice the shit camera and bad glitches. Nonetheless I had fun. I replayed it a bunch of times as I got older, and I never ended up disliking it.
Glitchy as fuck, camera's often bad, and they spent too much time on decent-to-awful alternate play styles and too little on making the Sonic/Sonic style gameplay as good as they could have
BUT!!!
-the art direction kicks ass; great mix of pseudo-realism and lively use of color that's very fitting for a Sega platformer of that era. People complain about Station Square, but I kinda like it; walking around town and the casino and whatnot evokes a bit of that urban atmosphere that I associate with Sega games like Jet Set Radio and Yakuza (and I guess Shenmue but I haven't played that one, oops)
-this urban atmosphere is nicely mixed with a contrasting mystical one to create a... I guess you could call it "corny" atmosphere, but nonetheless it felt quite unique and pleasant.
-a lot of the Sonic levels are genuinely *excitingly* designed, with fun platforming and neat set-pieces. There's just always STUFF GOING ON.
-soundtrack is fun and full of good melodies
SA2: First played it... JUST a year later. At first I was impressed by how it felt like it spent more time in the oven. The camera was less shitty, glitches happened less often, and it just felt like a more solid experience.
...but once all that wore off, I realized SA2 is..... kind of a huge downgrade in every other regard.
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>>320267805
the game was shit even as a child. the european gamecube version was fucked
>thread about shitty childhood games
>95% of posts are about sonic
/v/ never ceases to amaze
>>320271959
this was never good, not even way back
>>320281086
-art direction is fucking garbage. Half the game takes place in the ARK, which basically takes the most uninteresting visuals from the metallic-themed stages in the Genesis Sonic levels and makes them utterly fucking soulless and irredeemably boring. I guess the grinding levels are OK but that's about it. The rest of the game takes place in monochrome jungles, pyramids, grey military bases... they clearly wanted to make the game feel more 'grounded' to attract an edgy teenager audience, but it only briefly worked on me before I realized what was going on.
-I gotta hand it SOMETHING - it managed to nail that lively urban Sega atmosphere much better than SA1. Escape from the City and one of the night-time Tails levels spring to mind. Unlike most people, I actually missed the overworld.
-The levels are less fun. Less platforming and engaging set-pieces, more holdforward - this type of "NEVER STOP GOIN FAST" gameplay was perfected in Generations, so SA2's Sonic & Shadow levels just feels boring now.
Basically, SA1 is the better game. If you took everything good about that game, ironed out the garbage, made all the characters revolve around the same basic gameplay style (Sonic is a pinball, so what should Knuckles be? A bowling ball, obviously!")
You'd finally have a good non-Hedgehog Engine 3D Sonic game and shut all the "Sonic Adventure would never, ever work" people up.
It'll never happen but god DAMN would I love it ;_;
>>320281126
Actually yeah, that's another thing I forgot to mention. I first played it on an emulator and the egyptian golem fight was actually better in it; in the GC version, the controls or... SOMETHING, I dunno, but it felt REALLY fucked up and wrong. There might be other such changes that I don't remember.
but >>320281627 I still say SA1's gameplay could use an overhaul in terms of camera and glitches and physics and you'd have yourself a great fucking platformer. I'm sure Sonic Team are afraid of attempting that all over again though, because of FUCKING Sonic 2006.
MARIA!
/thread
Guys complaining about how shitty 06 was is basically like saying the sky is blue.
WE FUCKING KNOW.
>>320272702
>joke
>not funny, at all.
You're a fag.
>>320272906
>codemasters
That ain't micromachines
>>320282063
youre not even good enough toill make you eat those words
>>320276451
unless you're spamming it, i don't see the annoyance.
>>320276124
where are you getting shit controls from? the camera is personally the problem imo. Controls fine, camera eh.
>>320276236
what's the appeal? It's boring walk around and shoot everything. It's a sonic game, I understand treasure hunting but not mech.
Kingdom Hearts
The Legend of Spyro series
>>320282474
>I found you. FAKER!
I like how half the cutscenes have their mouths moving during dialogue and the other half don't.
>>320282864
The game was rushed out to catch the tail end of the DC lifespan. Its amazing it came out as good as it did considering the time and restraints they had
But no one seems to understand this.
>>320282580
It's literally how it plays dude idk. It's clunky and ass
>>320282864
>>320283018
The mouths are synced up to the Japanese voices and not the english voices.
>>320281627
I actually think the gameplay and level design in Sa2 is better then both Sa1 and generations, but i'm too tired to explain why.
>>320267805
Vexx for gamecube was mine
>>320283018
>The game was rushed out
they all were
they do it every time
>>320267805
Just went back and bought this a month ago on Steam. The controls are clunkier than I remember.
>>320272395
>R&C1
lol no. Maybe if you said 2.
>>320274382
>Posting Mega Man in a games you used to like thread
Naw son.
>>320273784
What's hard about him? Is it the part where you're supposed to use the balls to homing attack up to his weak point but the targeting keeps fucking up?
>>320283319
You dont understand the turbulent times that Sega had from 1997-2005
>>320270952
>sold shadow and heroes but kept adventures 1+2
>can play adventures on steam but they're never gonna put the other crap up
This is why i never sell games again
I hate this game's gameplay so much. It's busted on every level, it's so easy that it's tedious to play unless you cripple yourself to the point where I'd really rather be playing another game, it's slow compared to the other SNES FFs, and no, the story does not make up for any of these things.
>>320283952
I wish they gave heroes a proper 16:9 hd steam/ps4 release. The original windows copy of heroes is a fucking mess. Its my second favorite 3D sonic
Recently replayed SA1 and SA2.
SA1 feels like ST tried to shove so many ideas into one work while throwing the least amount of polish at it in an attempt to finish the game.
Take Sonic's campaign, arguably the best of the six presented: One level is running through beaches, the other is walking through a casino, and the next is starting and stopping on a flying fortress. It's almost like games were being made at Sega but were cancelled and their elements got shoved into a Sonic game.
The story isn't there, but you shouldn't expect it to be. The inspiration from Central and South America gives the game a certain type of charm that works for a while (especially in Lost World, what a level) but feels hamfisted.
The animations are awful, the voice acting is mediocre, and that's pretty much the entire game.
SA2 tries to address the clusterfuck that was SA1's varied campaigns and actually succeeds for the most part. The Eggman levels were nice, the Tails level blew. Knuckles had charm, Rouge felt lifeless and their levels reflected it. Shadow's levels were just a copy of Sonic's, which manage to showcase an improved sense of speed and control. It felt very good.
The story, however plot-holey it was, managed to pack a nice punch and had great moments of characters being characters.
The Chao Garden was also much better.
SA2 is just the better game, family.
>>320284089
emulate it on dolphin, senpai
gamecube version was best anyway
>>320284197
I have it on gamecube but dont really like emulation since its never perfect and that triggers my tism. Still, a $10 port with basic modern features and hd upscaling and trophies would sell great since its a popular game.
>>320284193
>Take Sonic's campaign, arguably the best of the six presented: One level is running through beaches, the other is walking through a casino, and the next is starting and stopping on a flying fortress. It's almost like games were being made at Sega but were cancelled and their elements got shoved into a Sonic game.
As opposed starting on an Island, ending up in an underwater city, to see some marbles, then hit the casinos and then go on a snowboarding trip with your winnings, just to remember that "oh shit, I forgot about Eggman" and actually put a stop to his plans, but then you end up on schrooms, to board one of eggman's fleets again, then end up in a desert, to find out theres a underground mine with lava flowing through it, but that mine has a secret palace in it, and a teleporter to basically heaven, then you shoot off into space to kick eggmans ass one more time.
don't act like sonic never had drastic changes in it's zones, because it always was like that.
>>320283696
It's been a long time since I played it, but I recall that and the near end of the fight where the gravity stops and you're floating around all those balls and have to navigate through them to land the final few hits. I don't remember if you have rings or not but I remember that part being really cheap considering any ball could hit you with ease and wipe out all your progress. It was mostly luck at that point.
>>320284193
>Take Sonic's campaign, arguably the best of the six presented: One level is running through beaches, the other is walking through a casino, and the next is starting and stopping on a flying fortress. It's almost like games were being made at Sega but were cancelled and their elements got shoved into a Sonic game.
I think it's just trying to emulate the classic Sonic style where you have many different types of stages all with their own gimmicks. They probably just didn't have enough time/resources to finish them up properly, which makes the whole thing feel unfocused and unfinished.
>>320283952
Just pirate the Heroes PC version.
>>320283952
>>320284968
/sthg/ even has a download link for it.
>>320282006
it's because of the pal refresh rate being 50hz. the game is designed to be in 60hz, so if you played the pal version, the controls had some weird input delay. like, at times it registers one button press as two which really fucks up the gameplay.
