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Why do people pretend this game wasn't shit?
Because despite it being a buggy mess it had soul and a good story. Just like Fallout: New Vegas.
New Vegas and Bloodlines are the greatest games of all time, and the ultimate proof that video games can be art.
>>320237913
"MUH VAMP SHIT"
>>320238049
This anon goes too far, but yeah
>Story.
>Gameplay.
>Actual choices.
>Good characters, Sexy good characters.
It baffles me no one can make good games anymore.
Even before the patches, it was one of the best written, most atmospheric first person RPGs ever made, and it's a shame there aren't more games like it. I mean, Human Revolution is cool and all, but Bloodlines is the greatest of the lot, bugs and all.
>>320238259
>expect twilight
>game was released in 2004
>>320237913
go back to call of duty and battlefield faggot
>>320238336
I didn't play it when it was released.
>play Malkavian first run
>had too much fun
>try to do another run as a different clan
>impossible
Fuck, there should be a prior warning or notice that Malkavians are the most fun clan, now I can't replay this game without picking Malk now.
>vampire in modern LA
>secret agent working for government agency that goes MI4
Why can't more RPGs have unique settings like this
Anyone that enjoyed the game are underaged faggots didn't play it on release. It was unplayable garbage that was rushed to show off the source engine before half life 2. I was so scarred playing it on release that I never went back.
>>320237913
>>320238791
>>secret agent working for government agency that goes MI4
What game is this? Human Revolution?
>>320238896
fuck off you underage neo /v/ redditor faggot
played it on release and it's still one of my favorite games
>>320238259
It was surprising how close Human Revolution came, especially the city HUBs but they just jacked a certain something.
>>320239307
When you're 12 and poor and it's the only game you could have played, then it must have been for you. Just like how every dumbass thinks that runescape was ever a good game.
>>320238896
I bought this game the day it came out in 2004 and its always been one I go back to, over 3 PCs later and its still installed.
>>320238896
do I have to play games on release?
>>320237913
Apart from the bugs, and last boss crashing repeatedly it was exceptional when it was released.
A proper bloodlines sequel would be on my insta buy list. I don't even care if it's a reboot with an updated/extended version of the same story.
All it needs is modern graphics/mechanics and more content and it would be GoTY materiel.
Because it isn't shit, OP. It's still a great game. Everyone should play it.
>>320237913
Why do you claim that it was?
>>320239620
>Apart from the bugs, and last boss crashing repeatedly it was exceptional when it was released.
Let´s not forget the cut and unfinished parts.
Reminder that Tim Cain and Josh Sawyer are working on a sequel.
>>320239091
Beta etiquette.
>>320240362
they're working on working on a sequel
>>320240408
Better then nothing.
>>320240362
Reminder that Tim Cain is a fucking idiot narcissistic manchild who literally named the main antagonist of the game by himself.
Antagonist might be the wrong word, but you get it.
Same with Joshua Sawyer, he admitted that NV was a buggy piece of shit and that he didn't really think of how logical the whole story and the setting were when him and Avellone were writing the story.
>>320240649
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caine
>>320240649
>Reminder that Tim Cain named the main antagonist of the game by himself.
>>320240848
Is this Venom or Big Boss?
Is the cab driver Caine
>>320240362
Why Sawyer, he had nothing to do with the original Bloodlines?
>>320240649
>by himself
do you mean after himself?
either way, you're a fucking moron. >>320240776 at least has some cultural/religious knowledge you absolute fucking troglodyte
>>320238749
There is a warning in the usual info image that is posted.
Malks are definitely second run material.
Especially since you know everything so their Foresight can't spoil anything and makes sense.
>>320241184
he has to make sure the game is sufficiently balanced so no one has fun
>>320240649
Anon shows he is a master baiter.
>>320238049
Bloodlines is probably my favourite game of all time, but VIDEO GAMES ARE NOT ART
video games are TOYS, INTERACTIVE SIMULATIONS, DESIGNED TO ENTERTAIN
>>320240914
I'm not that familiar with MGS lore. I think horn is Venom's thing and not Big Boss' so I'd say it's Venom but I'm not sure.
>>320241007
He is strongly implied to be. According to the writers of the game he most likely is, according to White Wolf he isn't.
>>320241007
Always hated this theory, it's really dumb.
I doubt Caine would give a fuck what happens to the rest of the world's vampires. That's the problem in making Caine a taxi driver, you're assigning a human personality and motives to an entity that is non-human. He isn't benevolent, he doesn't seek power or wealth and he certainly doesn't drive fucking taxis for people in domestic disputes. He's got better things to do.
Imagine if a Christian saw Jesus driving a cab.
>>320241007
No, he's the Malkav antediluvian.
God tier
>Malk
High tier
>Tremere
>Nosferatu
Medium tier
>Gangrel
Low Tier
>Toreador
I had fun once and it was awful tier
>Ventrue
Good game, had quite a bit of fun,, I never finished it once I started getting destroyed my the tzimsche. I revisited it and got farther in but still don't have the drive to finish it, it was definitely worth what I paid for it though
>>320237913
they're cucks
>>320241892
Wow my formatting was great, double commas and my instead of by
>>320241861
the ventrue get the most boring discipline spread
also where are the brujah
>>320238225
>gameplay
Kek
You niggers like this game because of the story and the 90's atmosphere
Even call of duty has better gameplay than this.
>>320241184
he has to make sure the game is bugged out as FUCK and that completing certain quests wont allow you to progress with the main quest
>>320241861
Why are Ventrue so low? They're my favorite after Malks.
>>320237913
why do people keep falling for bait posts like yours?
ISOLATED
>>320242450
There is more to gameplay than combat. What the game excels in is its level design and the variety of creative solutions to many different obstacles.
Reminder that Paradox will shit out VtmB 2 in the next two years at the most. Not counting the shitty spinoffs.
>>320242819
what's the problem with this? they'll just release DLCs to complete the game
>only Brujah playable at start
>>320241359
who the fuck are you to say they're not art?
Games are a medium, it's what you do with that medium that is or isn't art.
>>320237913
For the same reason your mom pretends to love you.
>>320242450
The combat was decently fun, the magic abilities interesting, the flow of dialogue and the various special options depending on your character well thought out, good variety of environments, locations, quests etc.
>>320243171
>The combat was decently fun
come on man
>oh fuck this guy keeps killing me
>better turn on celery and left click until he's dead
>>320243332
I played Tremere, fuck you.
>>320243332
>this guy in rpg is killing me
>better use a skill to kill him
I don't like vtmb combat either but that was a shit argument
>>320243332
suck my fucking dick you fucking retard
>>320241616
She literally became a part of the Earth.
>>320243332
Fuck off to your Fallout 4 you little cück.
>>320243648
>>320243567
>>320243543
>>320243502
>nostalgiafags actually think VtMB has good combat
lol
what's next, Planet Escape Tournament has good combat as well?
>>320238259
>>320243782
>I don't like vtmb combat either
>nostalgiafags actually think VtMB has good combat
learn to read retard, your argument was just shit. learn to make a good argument then come back
>>320239469
go back to reddit, underage neo /v/
>>320243917
Fuck off you pathetic nostalgiafaggot manlet.
There will never be a VTMB 2 because Paradox doesn't own the Bloodlines part. That's owned by Activision.
They will probably release an RPG similiar to Bloodlines though.
>nostalgia fag
I dont get you guys, its one of the best rpg out there. You dont even NEED the bostalgia factor OR knowledge of Vampire the Masquerade to enjoy.
But oh boy is it pleasing when you know VtM and see all the lore they put in.
>these absolute madmen, they actually put a Nagaraja in the game. they did it!
Pisha best
>>320244538
Who would want a sequel to Bloodlines anyway? the first game closed up pretty well
Yet another neo /v/ shits all over grandpa /v/'s vietnam experiences because there's literally nothing better to play thread
>>320241213
>Malks are definitely second run material.
Which is the best for first run?
>>320244812
cWoD was like a year off from gehenna anyway, and quite frankly there's not a developer on this planet that I trust to handle WoD's apocalypse
>>320245047
Anything but Nosferatu.
Just pick whatever clan you identify with more, there aren't that many differences.
Although if you pick a clan that specializes in dialogue get ready to be at a disadvantage in combat.
If you want maximum fun, I recommend Tremere.
>>320245297
Thanks, man.
>>320244538
>>320244538
As much as I want another Bloodlines-like game, I really doubt Paradox has the kind of money needed to fund a game of that size and scope.
At best will see something like an isometric CRPG. I'm not getting my hopes up, is all.
>>320241190
>not knowing characters from some shitty sci-fi book that people take for granted is being a troglodyte
>>320245047
Anyone other than Malks and Nosferatu is fine, just invest in some combat abilities because you'll eventually need them no matter what. Tremere in particular can make the combat piss easy, so avoid them if you care about that (but you shouldn't, fighting isn't the game's strong point anyway).
I have pic related but it's almost certainly not the most up to date version.
>>320245453
>isometric
>>320245047
Toreador or Brujah. Celerity is easy mode, but you'll need it if you don't know the encounters ahead of time.
>>320245047
I'd give Tremere a honorary mention, because their clan gives them some more insight into the things happening than the other ones.
But anything except Nosferatu really.
>>320242625
They're perhaps the least unique, right after Brujah.
>>320246041
>because their clan gives them some more insight into the things happening
how so? I only played once with Brujah and I think it's time for a replay
>>320245476
>>320245616
>>320246041
Thanks guys. Steam sales can't come soon enough.
>>320246282
That one wizard dude who takes over the camarilla will take you in when you're tremere and teach you shit, whereas with other clans you're left in the cold.
>>320246282
Well give that the whole clan is good at scheming, your contact at the clan (was it their leader? I honestly don't remember), has interesting things to say on the happenings ingame.
But then again I haven't replayed it much, so I might be wrong.
>>320246376
The devs are dead, pirate it. Don't feed their shitty publisher.
>>320246376
>Steam sales
I hope you're not intending on buying it.
That'd be bad.
>>320246376
This is one of the cases where pirating is 100% approved. The devs are dead and every time someone buys it the money goes to the publisher who killed them.
>>320246541
>>320246461
Is that the guy with sunglasses who you meet in Downtown?
I remember randomly checking doors in an alley and finding him because I didn't understand his clue
>>320246167
But really, unless you're playing as a Malkavian or Nosferatu, all races are same, and pretty much have the same abilities.
Guess its time for a replay for me
>>320246041
Tremere also have an unique haven
>>320246679
If you mean this guy, they yes.
http://vtmb.wikia.com/wiki/Maximillian_Strauss
Apparently the Primogen of your clan, which gives you a special snowlake status together with Malkavian and Nosferatur I guess, with extra content/mechanis than other clans.
>>320246461
>>320246541
Maximillian Strauss is the man.
Every clan gets a little acknowledgement in the game, however. Characters like Beckett and Isaac will address you differently if your're Gangrel or Toreodor for example.
>>320243028
Don't get so defensive, kid. Video games are modern, highly technical toys. Virtual theme park experiences. They are purely entertainment. Video games are not art because they are required to have gameplay, in other words they are toys that you play with. They contain contracted "art assets" but they are not art since they're inherently required to pander and conform to various pre-established ideas of what is entertaining and what isn't. People expect gameplay interactivity and shit from a game. People expect "fun" from a game. Art doesn't have these kinds of restrictions, art doesn't have to pander. Art doesn't have to be fun or entertaining. Art doesn't require "cool gameplay mechanics" or a "plot" or pretty graphics to be validated. When game developers make a game, they think "how can we make this fun?" "how can we make these systems come together and create a fun and entertaining experience?" That's the core basis of video games. When you create art, you don't think "how can I entertain audiences with this?"
>>320246679
Yep. He's actually pretty cool, he doesn't ever betray or backstab you and if you do the tasks he asks you to do he lets you into the sekrit tremere organization and makes you his second in command.
>>320246541
>The devs are dead, pirate it. Don't feed their shitty publisher.
>>320246631
>>320246645
Well, it seems that some people want a sequel or a new similar game, buying it would help that, even if just a little.
>>320246910
>>320247052
Yeah I meant him
How were you supposed to find him with the clue he gave you, by the way?
It's been a while but I remember that I walked past the Anarch club and there was a big-ass sun graffiti right next to the parking garage
So I went into the alley there but there was jsut some guy asking me if I was enlightened
The actual place with the Tremere guy wasn't even close to that
>>320246990
oh shit I didn't realize we had the curator of all art in the house tonight
>>320247089
No, it wouldn't. Paradox is the one working on some new project, which is most likely already underway. Activision still owns VtmB, the game is on Steam under them, and they certainly don't intend on having anything else to do with the IP.
>>320247089
I'm 'that' anon, the ex-troika employee. The original dev doesn't get any money period. Pirate it if you want, pretty much all of us that I still have contact with give no shit.
So the entire game was Jack's epic ruse, right?
What clan should I play as if want the best looking outfits?
Same reason your parents pretend you aren't a disappointment.
>>320238049
>New Vegas
>Greatest game of all time
Fucking disgusting plebeian taste
>>320247639
In the ending Jack says to the taxi driver "it happened just like you said" so I guess it was Cai I mean cabbie's plan.
>>320248228
Yeah, liking One Meme Manchild is having disgusting plebeian taste.
>>320248378
That doesn't change the fact new vegas is shit son
>>320237913ALONE APART
>>320248547
HAVE NO CHOICE BUT BE ISOLATED
>>320248538
It says a lot about your lack of discernment and critical thinking.
>>320248976
How is enjoying a laugh say a lot about critical thinking? Does everything have to be serious anon?
>>320237913
Why do you pretend to not like dicks?
>>320238049
Woah woah they are food not proof they are art good. They aren't like silent Hill 2 good.
I believe Bethesda would make a great sequel to Bloodlines.
>>320249709
Don't reply.
>>320247183
you boths are retarded
video games content is art, many different form
from lyrical art like the story to visual art like style
the rest is mostly mechanical (game mechanics) so it is even more than art
its a hybrid
so fuck off
>>320237913
Lewd waifu content. Good atmosphere. Voyeuristic quest. Basically it pushed all of /v/ neet buttons.
Goddamn it, this game is a fucking masterpiece and I want to play it again.
Wish someone would make a spiritual sequel or something similar. Deus Ex: Human Revolution was the closest thing to Bloodlines I ever played.
>>320249502
True. Silent Hill 2 is a masterpiece. Wish they would release it on Steam. Id buy it instantly.
>>320249709
>tood howard directing bloodlines 2
can't even imagine what they would do with the game
>>320250067
>Voyeuristic quest
?
>>320250110
Paradox bought the IP so we'll probably see a new game of some sort eventually. Wouldn't surprise me if they release clans one by one as DLC. Also Project Vaulderie might restart development since it was the original IP owners who sent them the cease and desist order prior to the acquisition by Paradox.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onOr_E_HpEE
Bloodlines will always be one of my favourite video games, despite its (many) flaws.
![10FC620CF19A7578BB5BD4E91FF40299C1270559[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TnHkEQz.jpg "10FC620CF19A7578BB5BD4E91FF40299C1270559[1].jpg")
>>320250403
Why couldn't they merge ever location/part of the city into one big area instead of splitting it into "hubs"?
Would have been way better.
>>320238049
>Gameplay doesn't matter as long the game have good story and """"soul""""
Neo-/v/ everyone.
This is the kind of shitstain that thinks Undertale is a good game.
>>320246990
I'm the guy you replayed to, and I agree with what you said almost to a t. Games are at this point in a stage where you need a "team" of skilled rather than creative people. But you have a bunch of indie games(I mean real indie games not journey) that are made by one or two dudes and are very much a pure individual expression. And in that way I do see games becoming something more than just fun and entertaining toys.
>>320251503
>you need a "team" of skilled rather than creative people
just like most bands
>>320250901
Oh. Looks familiar, but still don't remember what exactly happens there.
>>320251687
but with bands the creativeness and the chemistry between the individuals is 10x more important than the skill of playing an instrument/singing. Also, music is largely performance art, whereas games... no idea what they are desu senpai
http://debofnight.andcuriouser.com/
>>320252359
Sweet jesus, thank you. Honestly one of my favorite parts of the game
>>320252001
>the creativeness and the chemistry between the individuals is 10x more important than the skill of playing an instrument/
Thousands of "[X] and the Band" bands would disagree. Sometimes you need a bassists or drummer who fairly understands what the fuck you are trying to achieve and nothing further. There are musical projects out there revolved around one man's vision. This "chemistry" you are talking about may affect band's success in your eyes, but it often doesn't and success isn't a thing to achieve when it comes to art but that's whole another discussion.
Is New Vegas worth playing?
And if it is, what mods should I get before starting the game?
>>320238336
well it was Cure and a bunch of Crow sequels then, wasn't it
>>320253107
Mods are overrated and shit. I played 3 and New Vegas vanilla and it was perfectly fine.
>>320253107
Yes. But there's far far too many mods to make a "definitive" list, and the graphics stuff depends on your hardware, so you're better off going through the top rated mods on Nexus and checking out what catches your interest. Just avoid huge overhauls on your first run.
>>320253107
I enjoyed it just fine with the expansion packs and no mods
>>320252983
you're just a bitter fuck. I would love to argue with you but you're all over the place. Sure many of the bands are just one creative dude and the others follow, but then we're looping the argument, cause at the beginning I've said you need individual expression to have art.
And I've never mentioned anything about success.
>>320250180
except konami is an evil company and in no way deserves your money.
just pirate it anon, it runs pretty well on the computer if you have a controller to use.
>>320253662
I want to support Kojima and Konami.
>>320248914
STRUGGLING LEFT ALONE, AND APART
>>320255063
Idk how much kojima would get off of steam purchases, but it probably isn't enough to band-aid that escapade
THE PHANTOM
EXTERIOR LIKE FISH EGGS
INTERIOR LIKE SUICIDE WRIST REDS
I CAN EXERCISE YOU
THIS CAN BE YOUR PHYS-ED
CHEAT ON YOUR MAN HOMIE
Augh, trying to sneak through the door man!
>>320238896
I remember when i first played it on release, it had THE WORST save mechanic ever. you could lose hours of progress and there was no save scumming. Tons of shit was broken and those who werent there at first release will hail it as a masterpiece just like they do with every other game that gets exstensive community bug fixes such as FNV, Morrowind, SS2, the sith Lords,Fallout 1 and so on
>>320256508
This shit is so stupid
>oh there like a million vampire subspecies inlcuding ones so watered down they can go out in the sun
>but werewolves man, pff fuck they're impervious to bullets brah
Game crashes with this message,
Engine Error
no precache:models/character/npc/common/Cop_Variant/rookied_cop/Rookied_Cop.mdl, any solutions?
It's right when jumping into the boat that will ferry you to the Elizabeth Dane.
>>320257438
That isn't Anahí in the webm, right? I don't remember that booty.
>>320257438
>>320256508
>>320238049
>>320248081
malk
>>320237913
I have this game on Steam, but I never got to finish itbecause the haunted hotel scared the fuck out of me
>>320260406
>A vapire scared of haunted hotel.
Not cool, anon.
>>320260406
This will help.
>>320257438
>>320237913
God this game was so fucking good
Combat was 1/10, areas were tiny and exploration was shit but I have yet to play a game with a story/dialogue/replay value/atmosphere done so well
Honest question: this game has massive potential, why didn't anyone attempt to revive the franchise? The major flaws can be overcome with a budget, but the biggest studios can't come close it's greatest strengths
Would you fags fund a kickstarter? Is the original team even doing anything at this point?
>>320257438
>>320238049
>new vegas
>good
PFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>320237913
kill yourself
>>320261147
The game flopped. The original team was shut down because of it. The IP was then bought by CCP, which wanted to use it to make a MMO, but eventually scrapped the whole thing due to their incompetence and ended up just sitting on the property. They recently sold it to Paradox, which is definitely making some new game based on it, but most likely not something like VtmB.
>>320237913
Still the greatest game of all time.
>>320256813
FALLOUT 1 IS THE WORST FUCKING GARBAGE EVER, DON'T COMPARE BLOODLINES TO IT
THE FUCKING WATER CHIP AND THE TIME LIMIT FOR THE ENDINGS
the mutants are fucking advancing and Some places get rekt and have bad endings if you go over 180 days or such
Its fucking retarded and discourages exploration
Fuck fallout 1
>>320251213
actually anon, old /v/ was not obsessed with gameplay like neo /v/ is. We enjoyed every game rather than trying to attack any game that doesn't have AT LEAST 8000 gallons of blood and 50 different machine guns to use in combat. Did you know /v/ was really big on Yume Nikki ages ago? I mean imagine it, anon! /v/ happy about a "walking sim"
>>320263356
>FALLOUT 1 IS THE WORST FUCKING GARBAGE EVER, DON'T COMPARE BLOODLINES TO IT
Kill yourself.
>>320261963
>>new vegas
>>good
>PFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kill yourself, manchild
>>320263356
I wish I was still in high school
>>320238896
I played it at release, eat shit. Despite the horrific fucking bugs, I still loved it.
And oh did it hae some crazy fucking bugs back in the day before the fan patches fixed everything. My favorite was when EVERY object in the game world would get replaced by some singular other object. So all doors and door handles would become spools, the computers would be spools, the cars would be spools etc. And this bug would persist forever unless you had a previous save from before this bug started
>>320257438
>>320237913
Because atmosphere trumps gameplay. There are cult, well loved games that managed to build up amazing atmosphere through attention to detail, dialogue and/or map design despite having middling gameplay at best.
Examples:
VtmB
Silent Hill
Deadly Premonition
Even games like Yakuza and Demon's Souls have middling gameplay at best but thrive through environment and atmosphere. It's far more important to build that than it is to ramp up the gameplay.
>>320241861
>Warlocks
>High anything
The only thing they are high in is at my to-kill list, kafir.
>>320249709
Your main dialogue option in the game " I just want to be human"
>>320265006
At the beginning of the game you get bitten after having a one night stand with a person you don't even know, then they disappear and your top game priority is "Continue your search for your master".
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/rtRPxId.jpg "latest[1].png")
>>320247113
There's a huge glowing circle that might look like a sun on the facade of the Tremere chantry. Pic related.
>>320265629
That's a really shitty hint.
>>320237913
BRB, OP's faggotry just reminded me to reinstall and play it again.
>>320265561
Wouldn't that probably put you at a shit generation?
Not that Bethesda would care, mind you, but still.
>>320240649
>>320264865
>Even games like Yakuza and Demon's Souls have middling gameplay at best
Bitch I will fight you.
You know the one thing I hate about Bloodlines? If you want to get that extra xp you have to do the tutorial each time. Otherwise you're stunted. And in VtmB minmaxing gives you more content so it's important to maximize your xp gain if you know how.
>>320238259
>>320243809
>Raptors
Okay, I'll bite. How do raptors fit into this game?
>>320266206
Please, both games have simplistic combat, Souls games at least put some effort in positioning until you overlevel (and most people overlevel on their first playthrough and breeze through second half) whereas in Yakuza you can just spam dodge and win most fights.
>>320266373
Play it.
>>320248538
no, but your opinions certainly are.
>>320266373
>I'll be a retard and have one of the best moments in vidya spoiled for me
>>320266193
It's true.
>the world is civilized
>there are people roleplaying Ancient Romans
>Mr House, in just seven years, managed to turn a bunch of equally retrograde tribals into 20th century stereotypes, fundamentally changed attitudes towards life and even their speech patterns(!), not for the purpose of conquest and glory, but simply to set up New Vegas as a more appealing tourist trap(!!), all without applying much force or even being present
>there are NCR guards/bases everywhere, and the entire world is too much organized
>big faction coming out of nowhere while roleplaying as Ancient Romans(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Sawyer's response to all of it: I don’t think I was aware of how short the timeline was during development until it was too late to do anything about it, unfortunately.
![b9303411ec7aec2b336ac8573382ff15[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LOshtzk.jpg "b9303411ec7aec2b336ac8573382ff15[1].jpg")
>>320241359
"Art" is a meaningless word if you dont define what you mean when you say "art".
In my definition toys can be art too.
>>320243809
Does Cobra still make videos ?
>>320263614
>your opinion
>relevant
PFTHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
kill yourself, retard.
>>320267007
New Vegas is a great game, fuck you.
>>320266435
>Please, both games have simplistic combat
Simplistic compared to combo-heavy beat em ups, maybe. But the beauty is in their simplicity. With Demon's Souls especially, there is no extra fluff, there is no "press to win" button, there is no bread and butter solution to every encounter.
Games don't need to be Bayonetta to have good combat.
And Yakuza is just fun, so fuck you, I'll fight you!
>>320266510
>>320266538
Im going to start playing VtMB because of this thread so thanks for not spoiling.
>>320267570
Good man. Make sure you get the patches and remember to pirate the game!
>>320266510
>>320266538
I'm impressed anons its rare I see self restraint.
>>320268178
I hate spoilerfags worse than any memelords you can find here. It's the biggest downside to lax moderation and free discussion these types of boards offer.
>>320243809
>Geodude
>>320267570
Don't install the plus patch if you want to fully enjoy the raptor.
>>320243809
What's with the geodude reference?
>>320270887
I love the game too much to tell you, play it. If you already have, think harder
>>320271196
Fuck, I played it twice, but I just don't get it.
Is it because of thatgargoyle?
>>320271589sewers
>>320243625
The one that sank into the earth was gangrel. I'm pretty sure malkav is dead.
>>320237913
i dont know but game sucked
Leonard Boyarsky
Jason Anderson
Tim Cain
Brian Mitsoda
all retired, don't expect a sequel
>>320241359
Art is subjective, my shit could be art to some people.
Don't be an ignorant faggot again please
>>320267073
New Vegas is dull, brown, and filled with a lot of boring desert. The speech check at the end is so fucking stupid it's offensive.
because Jeanette makes my dick rock hard and because it has amazing storytelling and atmosphere.
>>320241359
Art has no definition beyond "Shit's emotional"
So pretty much fucing anything can be art.
>used to live in the country
>loved Bloodlines
>now live in the city
>feels the same walking around at night complete with squeaky bus brake noises just like the game
>game just got even more comfy and atmospheric
>>320253107
just install bug fixes mods, like YUP (Yukichigai Unofficial Patch), and some more immersive mods (New Vegas Redesigned, for exemple). The rest is pretty useless.
>>320253107
NV is garbage, it's just Fallout 3 again with an attempt to be 'deep' and like the originals
>>320257181
I don't understand what you're complaining about, there are subspecies of werewolves too but there's no reason to go into that in a vampire game?
>>32027583
Bags are a part of New Vegas' charm.
>>320265796
Troika wrongfully assumed the average person who played their games would have the reading comprehension and problem solving skills of an 8 year old.
>>320277689
No, that's a really shitty hint and symbolism. It's a round purple window.
>>320278050
I found it no problem. Maybe a waypoint will help someone like you.
>>320278050
The hint doesn't even matter, why weren't you trying every building with a door?
>>320276592
In fact, there are actually more werewolf clans than vampire clans.
And in WoD, Vampires are more immune to gunfire than werewolves.Glass Walker is best werewolf.
>>320278320
>why weren't you trying every building with a door?
because brute forcing a solution is even more pointless
>>320278198
it's not about whether you find it no problem or whatever, you sperg. the point is that 'midnight sun' doesn't magically become a random purple window if you consider it a good hint.
>>320276592
I think he's just complaining about werewolves being 2stronk.
>>320263614
Console garbage is never good
Feel free to keep up that delusion, though
>>320278620
It's not brute forcing, it's called exploring
Let me guess you missed the abandoned hospital quests
>>320278620
You're an idiot and have probably never solved any riddle on your own. I'm surprised you figured out how to install either unofficial patch.
>midnight sun
>not painfully obvious when you see it
>>320278789
>Let me guess
You mean "let me explore"? Because it seems to be the same thing for you.
>>320278870
>anon walks around the hub
>glances up
>wait a minute, that window
>solves puzzle
>brags about it on 4chan
>>320279084
Yes, it was that easy and obvious upon seeing it.
>>320279176
I can't fathom the amount of sperg sass that would lead someone to consider that a round purple window is a good metaphor for midnight sun.
Because the sun, is, uh, round and the purple, uh, is midnight.
>>320279340
You are literally autistic.
>>320278714
To be fair, that's the point. The weakest werewolf is still made to kill everything and anything that threatens the Earth.
So you have to be a really fuckin strong vampire to kill a werewolf.
>>320278985
No, read my post again you retard
I missed nothing but I hear of plenty of dumb people missing the flesh eating woman in the old hospital, missing the gargoyle, missing half the small quests
>>320279340
>>320279683
I'm just saying that a round purple window is not a metaphor for midnight sun. Might find dozens of similar examples that are more sun-like, random fucking streetlight being obvious.
>>320279725
>DSP presses the midnight sun . jpeg
>>320279874
No one is claiming that it's a metaphor you autistic retard. It's a riddle that becomes clear upon an observation. You are an idiot.
>>320241861
Malks are mid tier. The only good thing about them is the dialogue. They're fucking garbage otherwise for anything but stealth
>>320279521
Or a big door.
>>320245129
You could just not have Gehenna happen. It's better as this constant 'just around the corner' thing like a lot of doomsday theories
>>320280097
>It's a riddle that becomes clear upon an observation.
It's called a metaphor, you sperg. It's literally a literary term that needs to be swapped with real world object.
>>320280097
>"Come find me" is a riddle
No wonder you felt so proud solving that conundrum. Did you also figure out where Mercurio is by following a blood trail?
>>320249709
The only thing worse would be if Bioware got their hands on it. Jesus I'm cringing
>>320266690
Art is piss in a jar. It doesn't mean anything because it's shit.
>>320280310
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/metaphor
You're a backpedaling idiot.
>>320280415
Not what I'm saying, but I'm glad you came to help your redditor buttbuddy. Steam friends?
>>320241359
You opinionated art tards should die a painfull death.
>>320237913
They're cucks.
>>320274054
Tim Cain's at obsidian
Boyarsky's at blizzard I think
Dunno about Anderson
And Mitsoda would probably jump at the chance to do another vampire game
>>320239445
There wasn't enough side quests and since there was only one character, no variety in play style.
>>320250830
They manage to do so much with so little. Just a few trees here, a building there, and it actually feels like a shady ass beach in LA. I want to play it again but it wasn't working right last time I tried.
>>320237913
Top 5 game personally and I doubt it'll ever change.
>>320281252
>And Mitsoda would probably jump at the chance to do another vampire game
Damn right he would
Also Anderson is part of the Evolve devs now.
>>320282179
If they get him, Avellone and Gonzalez for another game I'd be super fucking hyped
