So I just finished this game
Shitty final bosses thread?
Post one then.
remember when Sauron was defeated with three QTEs
>>320216730
Jesus fuck I was so goddamn mad, that alone ruined what would've been a perfectly great game otherwise
All that fucking build up for nothing. Not that the black hand fights were any better
>>320215670
nyx might be the last boss but sure as shit isn't the final boss
>>320216851
shadow of mordor had a lot of wasted potential
a cool combat system with satisfying moves, decent (but not exactly innovative) sneaky stuff, a pretty good story, the cool captain/ranking system
and then you have "the hammer" and the other five hundred "kill these guys "kill these guys this way" missions
>>320216598
>Easy as fuck wall of meat, where the only danger is getting unlucky with Night Queen
>Not shitty
The ending of the game was great, but fighting Nyx sucked ass
>somehow made her more of a pushover than gwyn
>>320215670
Harder than Lucifer in Nocturne still.
Considering they are both the best in their own series, which is better, Persona 3 or Final Fantasy 7?
>>320218169
Only in the sense that the Nyx fight lasts longer, unless you didn't get/got rid of pierce for Lucy.
>>320218270
>>320218035
>pushover
At least Nashandra had some health to back her up unlike Gwyn, Lord of Dying in Two Ripostes.
>>320218270
Persona is better than Final Fantasy, so there's your answer.
>tfw went to Monad and got level 90
>fused Messiah
>go to fight Nyx
>it's a fucking pushover
>>320218270
P3 is better, but FF7 was more ''influential'' when it comes to JRPGs.
>>320219140
>grinding to 90 before attempting Nyx
That's your own fault.
>>320218035
I never played sotfs.
Was aldia any better?
>>320219140
Nyx is a pushover even without Messiah, all you need is Surt or Odin and you're set.
>>320219140
How the fuck can anyone handle grinding that high in P3?
Levelling is slow as hell, and the combat sucks dick
Why do they even bother giving you the oppurtunity to get Beelzebub and Helel and shit?
>>320219140
>>320217676
I bet you faggots are playing on normal and are guide readers who picked the best Personas. Nyx is really challenging If you aren't a grinder and is playing on hard.
>Nyx is easily destroyed by a decent Persona
>Liz is a boring as shit routine
>>320219597
You probably never unlocked Monad. It's easy as fuck to get lvl 99 once you open it.
>>320219769
>T-There's no way you could be better than me! You played on a lower difficulty!
You just suck, dude.
>>320219864
>Better than me
>On a turn based game
You are not playing a fighting game, retard. Persona is all about getting the best personas and be prepared for the fights. There's literally no skill involved.
>>320219978
>Persona is all about getting the best personas and be prepared for the fights
And guess what? I did that.
You're the one acting like a high-and-mighty faggot for struggling on hard because you fused garbage.
>>320219769
Are you the faggot that was stuck on World Balance for like half a year?
>>320219769
>Nyx
>on any difficulty
>challenging
>persona 3 ever challenging when odin exists
>>320220042
I'm just saying that's retarded to complain about a boss being easy when you are fighting him on the highest level, while having the best Personas in the game.
Also, I killed Liz. The only thing that you need to do to kill any boss in Persona is fuse Personas and get lvl. Any brain dead idiot can do it. And the fact is that only a brain dead idiot would fight Nyx on lvl 90+ and then complain that's easy.
>>320219769
I beat it with absolutely no problems first try with Raphael, some bird thing with Makarakarn, and a bunch of Somas
Game's easy as balls without going into superboss territory
>>320219769
>guide readers who picked the best Personas
>tfw I went through most of the game with Yatagarasu and Black Frost
>>320220185
Thank God that Persona 4 removed stun locking. It made the game a bit more challenging
>>320220280
>when you are fighting him on the highest level, while having the best Personas in the game
Yeah, the problem here being that I wasn't 90+ because grinding in tartar sauce is fucking boring.
Admit it, you're shitting your pants in anger because everyone's laughing at you for struggling with an HP sponge.
>>320218035
Every boss in Souls 2 was boring. :\
>>320220393
>persona 4 ever challenging when yoshitsune exists
>>320220393
>Persona 4
>Challenging at all
>>320215670
>Final Fantasy 8
>Final Fantasy 9
>Wild arms 2
>Chrono Cross
>Most fighting games
>>320220514
Persona 4 is a not a challenging game, it's only ever tedious on higher difficulties. I just thought it was more difficult than 3.
Bioshock
>>320220484
>Admit it, you're shitting your pants in anger because everyone's laughing at you for struggling with an HP sponge.
Whatever you say, kid. You are the only who's so shitty at vidya that you have to brag about being good in a turn based JRPG. Pathetic.
Anyway, the fact is that Nyx is challenging for JRPG standards. And is certainly more challenging than Izanami. I'm really curious to know what JRPG boss you find difficult, except for SMT mainline stuff.
>>320220779
>You are the only who's so shitty at vidya that you have to brag about being good in a turn based JRPG. Pathetic.
You're mistaking your post for mine.
>>320219769
>I bet you faggots are playing on normal and are guide readers who picked the best Personas. Nyx is really challenging If you aren't a grinder and is playing on hard.
Look at you, bragging about beating P3 on hard.
>>320220779
He's not challenging though, he's just tedious as balls
He just has a fuckload of HP, with a chance of fucking you with ailments if you are super unlucky
>>320220779
>Nyx is challenging for JRPG standards
Come on, even Mario RPGs have harder bosses.
Nyx is just a wall.
>>320220654
>Final Fantasy 8
To be fair there is nothing difficult in that game at all, even remotely.
I wonder how many handicaps I'd have to set myself to actually find the game difficult
>>320220779
Phantasy Star bosses
Star ocean 2
Star ocean 3 on 4D mode
>>320220853
It seems that you aren't very good at reading. I wasn't bragging. I was made that supposition because Nyx is generally regarded as a difficult JRPG boss and also as a climatic fight. So I figured that you either never played a JRPG before, was just complaining for the sake of, or played on normal.
I'm not retarded enough to brag about beating good in turn based games, unless they are in real time.
>>320220779
>except for SMT mainline stuff
DeSu Lucy lol
>>320215670
>>320216730
Shitty games tend to have shitty final bosses
>>320221119
being good*
>>320221063
Star Ocean requires much more skill than Persona though. I know that both are JRPGS, but their gameplay is pretty different.
Every Yoshi game after the original Yoshi's Island.
Yes, that includes Woolly World, a game full of shitty bosses.
>>320220964
This.
I love the game, love it more then P4 definitely.
While Persona 3 has more difficult bosses then P4, Nyx is just a disappointment. Just less so then Izanami.His "Banter" and Battle theme were god tier though.
Also, I'm surprised no one has said Fable 2.
>this fucking spastic Persona 3 fanatic
What is it about this shitty dating sim that warrants such cult like behavior and stupidity?
>>320221258
>I know that both are JRPGS
so you agree with him
quit moving goalposts man
you already looked dumb defending muh arcana
>>320221410
Only if you are retarded. Might as well compare Dragon's Dogma with P3 because both are JRPGS.
Also, your butthurt is showing.
>>320221471
>no u mad
i'm not the one defending nyx m8
you asked for a jrpg and he gave you several
>>320215670
Storywise it was awesome though.
>>320221005
Game was so easy that it wasn't even funny. The last boss was nothing too. It's only hard at certain points and even then applies if you never played JRPGs and/or new to FF. 9's boss was similar after fighting the giant disco ball.
Wild Arms 2 was broken as hell too. All of the secret bosses are harder than the final.
>>320221258
Star ocean 3 not really. Star Ocean 2 depends on the person. It was my fourth or fifth JRPG ever. I figured out everything quickly except the fact that the final boss had a limiter. Couldn't beat him him for months. Took three hours to kill that fucker and he can one hit kill you whenever he feels like it.
>mfw there's a way to avoid it
>mfw it's really easy to not avoid it
>mfw the final boss in the shitty version of Phantasy Star 3 is hard depending on who you fucked
>megaten
>hard
Why is this board so casual? Even fucking dragon quest is harder. Only jrpgs I can say that are actually hard are Saga Frontier 2, Dragon Quarter (without using dragon) and Last Remnant.
>>320221556
He gave me Phantasy star(which I never played, so I can't say)and Star once, which I already explained in my post.
>I'm defending Nyx, therefore i'm mad.
That doesn't make any sense. I'm just stating my opinion about the fight. You are the one who can't argue
>>320221717
>Last Remnant
now THERE were some bosses
>>320221657
>literally nothing happens for 2/3 of the game
>plot is literally "sup bro, lets' level up in that tower while we wait for a full moon"
>plot is literally grinding
>after the story is we all gonna die boo hoo
>use power of friendship and a promise to graduate together to stop death
The story is awful.
why are there so many RPGS but none of them actually revolutionized anything, outside of a slight mechanic gimmick.
how hard is it to make an rpg that has more depth than, (attack this guy, and also heal this guy, but make sure to balance the gimmick, and occasionally buff yourself)
>>320221717
>Saga Frontier 2, Dragon Quarter (without using dragon) and Last Remnant.
It speaks volume that all these games are shit.
>>320221849
>>320221717
What genre is this? I might try it out.
>>320221896
Cute shitposting sempai. Go back to crying about Nyx's HP having four digits.
>>320221896
Sure they are Personakek
>>320221882
What are you looking for anon? If you don't attack something it's going to get boring.
>>320221858
Not him, but Persona is more about the characters than the plot. 4 is the same deal.
It seems that P5 will have a better story though.
>>320221858
You say that, but persona 4 was even slower.
at least there was an ever present threat that you were supposed to be ready for every month. Hell I was worried I was under leveled constantly.
but persona 4 was just, oh hey heres a dungeon. You can clear it in one day and you can now wait for the next one.
>Fuuka would sleep in your embrace. Her small physique would allow you to practically envelop her with your arms, and she'd be the perfect little spoon. Even though you'd move around inadvertently in the night, you'd still keep your grasp on Fuuka throughout the entire night, tenderly hugging her even unconsciously. In the morning, you'd wake up before she does and quietly disengage your hug, stepping out of the room to make breakfast for her. Fuuka would wear a silk nightie to bed.
>>320221978
>>320221968
I don't know why you are assuming that I like Persona but okay.
>He thinks that Dragon Quarter is good
kek
>>320222045
>b-but Persona 4
I don't care you retard. I didn't even fucking play it. It's not a counter argument to how fucking shit the story is in Persona 3
>>320221947
it's a weird kind of JRPG
it's a party with a maximum of 18, but you don't directly control the party members, instead you organize them into squads and give general orders to the squads (Magic, physical special moves, heal, blah blah blah)
complex as fuck and barely explains anything, but rewarding if you can get the hang of it
>>320222167
>it's a party with a maximum of 18, but you don't directly control the party members, instead you organize them into squads and give general orders to the squads
Sounds like Tactics Ogre.
>>320222028
But the characters aren't good either.
>>320222020
Something outside of just attacking I guess. Like instead of treating every fight like a number game, make it more puzzle solving. I don't just mean weaknesses, like something you have to actually do each fight coupled with other things. Something a game dev can slowly teach the player and eventually let them figure out the fights.
>>320222167
>Don't directly control the party members
Oh god it sounds hard. Don't tell me this is artificial difficulty?
I might check it out anyway.
>>320219140
I don't know what the fuck you were expecting being level 90 by the time you fight Nyx.
>>320221978
>Posts best mage
>Doesn't even try to rhyme
>>320222268
well
it's artificial difficulty in that it doesn't tell you anything
but it is also actual difficulty because even once you figure out how to play it will still kick your dick in
>>320222260
So you want a puzzle RPG or something? Or something with options instead of just beating up monsters? I'm just trying to figure out what you're looking for exactly. I mean I agree that most RPGs have the same tried and true form but that's because developers bank on either characters or plot to attract people.
>>320222160
I was just bringing it up, it still had the threat and yeah grinding was the plot but at least it made sense. What else were they going to do for an RPG.
Also it's clearly more character focused like>>320222028 said, the whole game was around improving relationships to boost your personal strength.
It tied things up smartly.
>shitty boss followed by scripted encounter
>>320222394
options and more indepth boss fights I guess.
>>320222160
>He think that his memes and green texts are convincing arguments
I've been reading the same arguments ever since 2010.
>bla bla bla shitty pacing
>bla bla grinding, tartarus is shitty
>bla bla SLs are boring
>bla bla game takes awhile to get going.
>>320222241
For you, senpai.
>>320220964
Nyx wasn't hard, just fucking tedious. That fucker had like 13 god damn "form changes." None of the arcana shifts were challenging and probably the only part that would have been difficult was the combo that Nyx did where it instant killed by putting people to sleep (it's been awhile since I played the game) or some shit.
>tfw you were charmed during the Nyx and this happen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsoBNs_mNsM&
>>320222372
It sounds like that stupid tactical game that had a bible length manual and hours among hours tutorial that teachers you absolutely nothing at all. Can't be no worse than that or the time I played Hoshigami. It sounds fun so I'll try it for the heck of it.
>>320222512
>I've been reading the same arguments ever since 2010
That doesn't make them wrong.
>>320222512
I don't understand. Are you saying my claim is bait? Aside from maybe 2 exceptions, none of the characters in P3 were interesting. Not everyone with an opinion you don't like is baiting.
>>320222074
Fuuka's portrait in P3 was god awful. I liked how they made her look nice in later games and the movies.
>>320222545
I almost watched the ending on Youtube when it happened to me.
>>320222496
I wouldn't mind seeing a boss that made you think or you had the option to run from him and avoid crap. Or maybe the boss joins your party.
>>320222512
All you are achieving here is showing everyone what a butthurt fanboy of a shit game/cast you are.
>>320222512
Remember kids: criticism that's been used before is not valid toward games I like
>>320222545
I had both Titsuru and MC heal it
>>320220654
Chrono cross final boss was fine unless you were going for the true ending. Jesus fuck that element resetting bastard
>>320222545
>Raged Junpei, Akahiko, and me
>Charmed Yukari
>We smacked him to death before it got to her turn
That was the tightest my anus ever clenched
>>320222545
Time to reset son
>>320222812
It was horribly easy compared to other bosses in the game.I managed to do the element thing on the first try.
>>320222635
>>320222787
It just makes me not want to engage in a discussion about it. Same deal when whenever someone wants to criticize Dark Souls, the only thing that they are able to say is ''second half''. And yeah, when you don't elaborate on your criticism, I'll take it as bait.
>>320222651
>Bait
No, I just said that it was your opinion. I think that there was 2 or 3 good characters and the others were okay. I'd say that they are pretty good compared to what I'm used to see in most games.
>>320220103
What happened to that guy? Did he win?
>>320222851
I had junpei built like a fucking tank and all of his melee attacks two shotted most bosses due to melee attack bonuses that were stacked
>when he was raged he took half of nyxes health
Excellent game, but Saddler disappointed me.
>>320223320
Super Nova is probably the most visually impressive skill of any RPG.
>>320223320
Wrong image.
oh well Sephiroth was kinda meh aswell, I liked the fight where you use all 9 characters before the last round more
>>320223396
It's way way too long and the definition of over the top.
I bet the remake will alter it completely if not exclude it
>>320223501
I said that it was visually impressive, not that it was a ''good skill'' or ''good game design''. I agree that it's too over the top, even for FF standards.
>>320223501
>>320223625
Also, they'll probably edit or downright exclude the vast majority of summon animations in the remake.
>>320221307
Fuuuuuck the bosses in Woolly World. My only complaint about the game. It would be 10/10 otherwise but I can't forgive such blatant laziness and lack of creativity
>>320223501
I'm expecting them to make it even more flashy and ridiculous. They gotta show off those fancy next gen graphics right?
But they'll either have him only use it once, or include a skip button
>>320222045
P4's plot is much better than P3's but is greatly held back by the fact that there are FOUR red herring culprits before the real one in the true ending. What the actual fuck?
