I haven't played this in months, I think I quit roughly before arbalest was added.
I had heart the game had gotten too casualized and became worse, is it true? Is it still worth playing?
>>320212623
lurking
>>320212623
>I had heart the game had gotten too casualized
no, they made the game harder by introducing heart attacks, corpse bodies, preventing one-enemy-left abuse, etc which turned a lot of players off. pretty much the opposite of what you're trying to describe
there's about 2 hours more of content for this game now than there was when it was first released as early access. the new classes are fun to mess with for about 30 minutes.
>>320213719
The Abomination is a great class if you have a jester on the team
>>320212623
>game had gotten too casualized
No idea who thought that was the case. The game has a lot of new, much more difficult enemies and features.
>became worse
It has it's ups and downs through its patches, but I really wouldn't say it's gotten any worse. It definitely feels like they're trying to add and improve things still.
>I had heart the game had gotten too casualized
can anyone else confirm?
>>320212623
>to casualized
>introduced madmen
>casual
Who the fuck did you hear that bullshit from.
Is there actually a point in using a Leper anymore with this handsome motherfucker around?
>>320212623
what >>320213719 said. A lot of people, including me, didnt like it much because the difficulty of the game went from some what hard to insanely hard since every enemy was buffed, every hero was nerfed , it was almost impossible to ambush enemies and it was incredibly easy to be surprised by enemies, heart attacks were added and made things a lot harder, especially because enemies focused on stress were giving huge amounts of stress.
They tried to make the game harder but they fucked it up a little bit, now some of these additions are optionals(like heart attacks) but since i dont feel like loosing another 35 hours save on the game ill just wait for it to be finished and launched, maybe ill wait a month or 2, after some possible patches, to play it again.
>>320212623
I don't support games until they get off early access and actually have a full release.
>>320213719
>>320214481
Full release is coming pretty soon if you guys don't want to weather the patches.Seems like there's a pretty big camping and economy patch coming so it might not be a bad idea if you hate that kind of thing.
>>320214469
well the vestal and sader won't want to party with the abom which limits certain teeamcomps. the leper also goes very well with the MAA if his awful accuracy is making you sad.
Played a good 5 hours just recently.
I actually think it's gotten easier.
Though, I can see new comers having still having hard time their first run.
Gotta use that Bleed and Blight attacks man, there OP.
>>320214469
He is if you use the right trinkets. Also his health and Prot ability has some great usage the Abomination can't account for.
>>320214949
I find the Hellion makes up for the lack of Crusader and Leper. Vestal can be accounted for at higher levels if you have a strong Occultist or are handy with a Plague Doctor or two.
>>320212623
>casualized
Lolwhat, they have been making it harder with each major patch.
>>320215069
They just got buffed in fact. More damage and the affect carries on to corpses too.
>>320214469
>>320214949
This. Pair him with a MAA, Houndmaster and Vestal.
>>320214869
i believe it will be released in february, thy said something about it on steam. Ill just wait until june or july to play it, or something like that.
>>320212623
>Casualized
The fuck? they have made the game harder with each update. You cant stall for healing rounds anymore and more stress enemies that will fuck your shit up.
>>320216271
Website says January 19th. It might be a good idea to wait a bit though since they'll more than likely have to patch the Darkest Dungeon once people finally get in there and get their shit pushed in repeatedly.
>>320214869
>new patches
I hope they nerf the Palagic Gapers.
>>320216387
>used to hate bone nobles because goblet crits
>"How quickly the tide turns" ;D
>boot up game recently
>this dude called a madman is in enemy ranks
>"huh I wonder what this guy does"
>uses the move that hits the while team
>crits everyone for 20 stress
Right.
>walking around in 0 light because I want more money
>get attacked by a monster that makes copies of the people in my party, he has like 200 hp
Well then.
>>320216751
The collector isnt that hard, ive encountered him 2 times in aprentice and veteran level, he didnt really gave me that much trouble. Also he gave me this trinket, it sels for 100 gold and cant find it in the wiki.
>>320216987
make a page for it then
>>320216387
So the only real viable way to play now is get enough turns into the game with a crit heavy aoe oriented team and just fucking up all enemies in 1 turn?
>intergrated graphics
>2.1
>needs 3.2
>literally can never play it
cool. i didnt want to have fun today. or ever
>>320216751
yep the collector is awesome, you better have at least 2 chars that can attack the back row or you're fucked , you can get dismas head for him and there weird items ( all increase stress, don't really think they are worth it much tho)
>>320217126
You can get around the anti-stall leaving 2 enemies or if DoT kills the last enemy in the next turn you can do whatever you want before then
>>320215069
They were awful last time I played. So they finally got buffed to usefulness?
>>320217134
buy a graphics card, or look into getting a usb graphics card, ive seen external graphics cards for laptops around somewhere.
>>320216013
I thought you couldn't use abom with Vestal?
>>320217126
there are 1-3 stress enemies and they are pretty weak if you have 75+ torch there is a high chance to surprise your enemies, you should be able to kill 1-2 in the first turn , also they added more abilities that reduce stress
>>320212623
>I had heart the game had gotten too casualized and became worse
No, they made it harder.
>>320212623
you can get a heart attack now , if you fill the stress meter 2 times
>Tfw have 2 trinkets that combined make my Vestal heal 66% extra
>Heal 10-15 hp and 20-30 crits hp most of the time
>>320217537
Good. Stress becoming overwhelming early on was beating my ass last time I played, especially when I got surprise attacked by the wrong enemy team. Stress is basically a second health bar, so you kind of need as many tricks for dealing with it as you do health. Hell, health isn't even an issue if you can keep stress in check.
>>320217756
The scroll thing and what else?
>>320217694
Whats a heart attack?
>>320217234
I really want to know the lore of the Collector if there is such a thing, does he harvest the soul of your fallen heroes?
>>320217435
Plague Doctor Noxious Blast or Plague Grenade can blight the enemy for 4 a pop.
4 fucking Blight. You never have to worry about back enemy rows ever again.
>>320217881
when you get afflicted ( stress 100) and you fill it again to 100(200) you die instantly
>>320217868
A book, The tome of holy healing, its rare.
Why does this game look like Witch Trainer or something?
>>320218017
Oh. I an actual heart attack. I thought you meant like some sort of special attack that unlocks at 200 stress.
If you fill your stress meter to 200, your character suffers a heart attack and takes huge debuffs to almost all their stats until you end the quest.
>>320218017
No, you dont die instantly anymore, you still have the heart attack but its makes you directly to death´s door
>>320218017
>100(200) you die instantly
Only at Death's Door I believe. My heroes always survive it when they have HP left.
>>320217886
yes and no , he does have dismas head as an item ( you know the guy with the gun you get as a starter character ) and raynalds (? the other starting guy) item , didn't see any other
>>320218074
It is. Hermione is unlockable.
>>320217919
Back when I played blight did like 2 damage a turn, when it hit, which it usually didn't, when enemies had like 20+ health. It was worthless.
>>320218145
ah so they changed it , didn't have a heart attack since they changed it
>>320218145
Death's Door makes health fairly pointless.
>>320217919
And you can stack it so it does 8 :)
>>320218293
>>320218293
Its actually 5 damage per round now, so yeah you can have 10 damage per round.
>>320218479
That's if it's upgraded past the first level.
>>320212623
I haven't touched since the first release.
I prefer to play a complete game. I don't know jack about half the classes, the new dungeos whatever corpses are and etc.
I would play in a couple of months when it's done. Right now it's absurd to play.
>>320217510
you can't, I was talking about a Leper combo.
The devs really dissapointed me with this one.
My main issue with the game was that it gets boring and repetative very fast. The story is just barely there and there are little to no, you know, ADVENTURE. A year passes and what do we get? Same fucking thing. Well fuck you, what's the point then?
>>320218197
They're significantly more useful now. Especially in the cove.
>>320220418
Go play pillars of faggotry.
This is an xcom-roguelike.
>>320220418
You act like the game is finished.
>>320220649
>Go play pillars of faggotry.
Dropped it after the first few locations, this shit is even more boring and repetative.
>>320220708
>You act like the game is finished.
I act like the devs got stuck in the development hell for some reason.
>>320220418
The devs did boardgames before this
and when you play the dungeons it really fucking shows
The dungeons, you know the meat of the game?
They're not really dungeons, but poorly made randomly generated boardgames
>>320221367
>I act like the devs got stuck in the development hell for some reason.
I say that because this is still early access. The final area isn't even out yet and on top of that they're still making some big changes to the way things work. There's no reason to think there's not going to be more story progression just because it hasn't been a focus in early access.
>Meet Collector
>Can't retreat
>Crits out of the ass
>Wipes out my whole party
>Lose 3 rare trinkets
>>320216987
>can't find it on the wiki
That's because it's one of your previous character's head, considering that Dismas is one of the randomly generated names for characters.
Try searching for "collector trinkets" or "collector head" instead and you might find something.
>>320212623
is this still EA?
i figure it is because it still hasn't been announced for consoles when it was shown like last year
face it master race, your losing another one...
>>320222504
>Implying there's not a release date
>Implying there's no console port coming
Research before you post anon.
>>320216589
true, i'll just fucking wait, as i said i already lost a 35 progress because of the update and i dont feel like loosing it all over again.
>>320214469
Easily the best single class in the game so far. It's so strong and self reliant it puts most every other class to shame.
>>320214469
of course there is. its not like people use multiple of the same class right?
i trust you all only use one of each class (when possible with carriage rng) right?
>>320224269
sounds like it needs some negatives to outweigh its op-ness
>>320224551
i'm at week 27 and still haven't gotten a single grave robber
are you allowed to buy a replacement if a class dies or is it game over once they're all dead?
>>320224551
>mfw 3 Abom 1 Jester party destroys literally everything
>>320224830>>320224863
>game over once they're all dead
Wait a second, is this some hardcore mode I don't know about where you only get 1 of each class and that's all you get? That would be amazing, but probably nearly impossible.
>>320224771
They're exaggerating a bit. It has them in spades, it's just a very strong class on its own.
>>320224863
So far there's no game over for you. There will always be replacement characters and if you completely run out of people, which is highly unlikely past the first few weeks, you'll just be given more to cover the difference. You not seeing any Grave Robbers in that amount of time is just bad luck. Upgrade your Coach to let more heroes come into the Hamlet, that'll give you a better chance.
>>320224863
its just how i like to play.
and yeah i replace a dead class with a predecessor of the same type when possible. fuck doing a game over once there all dead run.
>>320225154
no its just a playstyle some choose to play >>320225407
>>320225491
I'm actually gonna start this today. My main hamlet is like week 127 or some shit and I haven't started a new game since thus first appeared on steam. it'll be nice to see what they did with the start of the game. Wish me luck.
>>320225610
May the RNG Old Ones have mercy on your new hamlet.
>>320212623
Why is the endgame such a chore? I have killed all bosses twice and have done a few thrice, but it's just more of the same in slightly harder version,
>>320226358
It's literally the same, just higher hp and higher damage, crit stats, etc, unless they upgraded the ai or something recently.
nigga they did the complete opposite, the games a fucking chore now with how much bullshit there is like fucking heart attacks and enemy corpses blocking shit
>>320226453
They did just recently update the AI quite a bit.
>>320227305
Heart attacks don't instant kill anymore and corpses aren't much of an issue if you're smart with party composition, but I agree it's much harder now.
>>320227790
it's just more shit that adds nothing but frustration to the game
like what does heart attacks/blocking corpses add to the game besides just another thing to fuck with you?
it's just not enjoyable
>>320227996
Heart attacks make sense and were necessary because there was no threat or reason to give a fuck once a hero was afflicted. I didn't like them either when they were instant death, but I think they're a good way to incentivize caring past the affliction.
I don't even get why people don't like corpses. They're fairly easy to avoid if you have any kind of DOT damage dealing unit or if you've got someone who's likely to crit, easy to clear if you've got anyone with an upgraded AOE, some enemies don't even make corpses and they keep enemies in position which allows members of your party to not become completely useless. I can understand people not liking the heart attacks, but I see no issue with the corpses unless your strategy is literally just "kill the front row".
>>320220708
> You act like the game is finished.
The devs announced they're overhauling the game so it's actually interesting instead of an RNG simulator?
>>320228450
>actually interesting instead of an RNG simulator
you quit back when it first came out cause it was too "hard" for you didn't you?
>>320229017
please tell me how 2 git gud at hunger
please tell me how 2gitdud at the random quirk you get being one of the "change to throw items into the treash" ones
>>320228450
Don't be so dramatic Anon, the RNG is hardly that bad at this point in the game. If you know what you're doing it is pretty easy to be in a consistently decent position. They are actually overhauling a lot of stuff right now, so maybe it'll be more to your taste. If you're just not a fan of roll based games though then this kind of thing just isn't for you
>>320212623
Haven't you heard all the bitching? The game is growing less casualized, but there's a baby mode you can use to turn it all off.I hope the final game has an achievement or something that pops when you turn it on, so you can't hide your shame.
>>320229296
I'm >>320229305 and not that anon, but:
Hunger is easy to counter if you make sure to come with a little extra food. Failing that just try to use stress management units to keep the blow from being too big a deal and remember to keep heroes off death's door.
As for the quirk you're talking about, I'm almost positive that was something that was from a much, much earlier build of the game. The only way to really lose trinkets these days is if you send a hero into the bar /gambling hall with trinkets from the mission still equipped or if you get a party wipe while they have them.
they really have no idea what they're doing with the class items do they?
Does the game still have weak useless attacks?
When I played each character had 2 useful attacks at best.
If I was lucky I got two characters that have a melee and a long range attack, a healer who has an AoE heal and a single target heal, and then one character that can remove stress and do AoE damage.
Everything else is stupid shit like putting a tiny buff on one of your guys.
>>320212623
quite the opposite actually, it's gotten even more harder to get into if you're a casual.
>>320224771
it gets random stress damage though, though it's not much a drawback
>>320230264
nah, most buffs are now party wide with the exception of self buffs which are pretty good (Leper has GOAT Buffs). Some attacks are still pretty situational and there are some skills that seem to have been forgotten like Arbalest and BH's Mark Skills which are inferior compared to the Houndmaster and Occultist'
I've been meaning to get back into this game and I'm starting a new save, what team should I shoot for to be my main squad?
>>320231868
honestly a variety of party comps are very acceptable. I really dig MAA,Abom,Occultist,Jester
