http://www.othersidetease.com/b779ij.php
Why is nobody here talking about this?
>>320158895
We had a thread few hours ago.
Nothing to talk about yet
>>320158895
Because we did and there's not much to go off now.
It's cool that they have SHODAN's original voice back and even if it turns out bad I'm glad it ended up back with the people who started SS rather than some random group with no apparent love for the series like what happened with Thief. Cautiously optimistic about it and Underworld.
>>320158895
This is gonna be a mobile game or some kickstarter shit I tell you.
Because it's more than likely gonna be kickstarter shit
Why did they even bother doing this? I literally waited for this stupid countdown.
>>320158895
>probably going to be shit funded by kickstarter
>I still would give it $100
I am the cancer killing the industry
im quite sceptical about this
based on the questions from developers, how the players feel about vr and others, id say it barely even start the preproduction phase
that been said, i think it would be kickstarter
im super hungry for a good singleplayer fps/rpg, but i think its not possible to deliver a good one without semi AAA budget, and a big team with a lot of resources.
and is there any kickstarter superfunded game
that isnt half baked? besides indie "its artistic vision not cheap graphics" only based on mechanics
Cancerous indie garbage. Just play a Deus Ex mod and pretend it's the real System Shock 3.
>>320161083
This. It's difficult to get excited for games that have the capabilities of being picked up by publishers but instead the developers choose to ask customers to fund them.
Either way. This game won't be done for years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEQReLZJXJQ
>>320159465
didnt play any of the old thief games but I picked up the new one for like 6 bucks on a steam sale and still found it boring. what were the big differences?
I don't know how it will turn out but I don't think it's some cynical cash grab. The guy who found this company (and Looking Glass back when it was still Blue Sky) has been trying to arrange for a new system shock for years.
There are better ways he could make a quick buck than to spend that long untangling the rights to a long dead and mostly forgotten video game series.
>>320159465
underworld ascendant doesnt look that great... but i wanna see what the finished product is before being too harsh on it also i'm not sure giving ss3 over to a company that haven't produced a single thing is a good idea, all other side have going for them is that they have some people from good old looking glass being involved in some way or another
>>320164310
Bigger and more open ended levels, less gritty and more humorous, it has a story that's coherent and has no annoying characters. There are a lot of specific things I could pick out but they wouldn't mean much to you unless you already played the originals.
If you like Deus Ex, System Shock, or Dishonored it'll be up your alley.
>>320164310
just play them comparing them to the new one is like comparing doom or quake to cod
>>320158895
I just want to play the 2nd but its so god damn ugly with a horrible aesthetic.
>>320158895
What's this, a Bioshock sequel?
>>320165374
>>320165452
I played SS1 and 2, Deus Ex HR (planning to play the original at some point), and dishonored and I thought they were pretty enjoyable. I'll give the originals a chance soon
>>320165319
That's basically how I look at it.
What gives me some hope is that in interviews and videos they speak like they at least understand what the appeal of the old games were. I remember before Thief 4 came out, it was like nobody working on it or presenting it was even familiar with the source material and ended up with shit like pic related.
Time will tell if Otherside can actually deliver a good game but their attitude is opposite that (and they had nothing good to say about Thief 4).
>>320166173
i hope it's good but atleast we'll always have arx fatalis
>>320165942
It'll feel similar to SS2, they were on the same engine and have the same movement, a lot of the same animations, same basic kind of story telling, SS2 even carries over a basic form of stealth from Thief. It just never comes into play because the levels aren't designed for it and your visibility isn't conveyed to you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0CP8AgKGaM
>>320164310
Somehow despite having more focus on action as a viable option, Thief 4 manages to be miserably slow to play through.
You could actually go pretty fast in 1/2 as long as you stuck to quiet surfaces and adjusted your speed accordingly, but because Thief 4 dumbs it down to "avoid running full stop," the entire game is just a painfully slow crouchfest where you monotonously creep past boring guard encounters. The swoop isn't even as fast as just running in 1/2.
>>320158895
Look at you, Hacker. A pathetic creature of meat and bone, panting and sweating as you run through my corridors. How can you challenge a perfect, immortal machine?"
>>320158895
Because System Shock 2 was overrated garbage.
Much like Deus Ex and Thief, SS2 gets significantly shittier the further along you go. Granted, there are always unfun mechanics like weapon degredation and the potential of screwing yourself if you don't know what skills are worthwhile ahead of time, but at least in the early stages the game is novel enough for the atmosphere and SHODAN to make up for it.
Then you beat the Recreation deck. Congratulations, the entire rest of the game is a downward trend through the Command deck, an easter egg hunt on the Rickenbacker (with no map, naturally), an unfun trudge through the body of the many ending in a terrible bossfight, and an interesting reality-warping area capped off by an even shittier and anti-climatic boss fight with SHODAN, with an ending that somehow manages to be worse than the original Half Life.
SS2 is an experience that I'm glad I had when I had more patience for unfun bullshit, but there's enough of it in there where I'm never playing the game again, at least not to the end. Bioshock is a significantly better game overall, even if it's missing SHODAN.
>kikestarter project from a studio that has never made a game before
Time to replay 2 and Alien Isolation and BioShock after that. Just finished SS1 a while ago.
>it's going to be made for consoles from day one
>>320169481
>horror game
>unfun gun degradiation
Sorry m8, all games can't pander to your tastes.
Bossfights were shot though and BotM could have used a more, kekzor, FLESHED OUT environments.
>BioShock is a significantly better game
No it is not. It is good game but not better.
>>320169481
>Deus Ex
>significantly shittier the further along you go
>>320169535
>Nice jump.
>>320169914
It could change, but this is a quote from a developer on their forums (ultimately defending the possibility of a console version if there's interest, but still)
>We design for PC, and if we decide to we port. Its easier for us that way.
>>320169481
ss2 has a bunch of problems and does in fact and there is a big drop off in quality around 2/3 of the way through
it's still a really good and unique game though
>>320169481
Worst feature of SS2 is the enemy respawn, it makes no sense and adds difficulty just because.
>>320171024
>run through a sliding door
>see one of those hybrid fuckers just materialize in from fucking nowhere before my very eyes
>>320169958
>Sorry m8, all games can't pander to your tastes.
The problem with gun degradation isn't that it occurs, it's that it's way too fast by default. Sure, you can change it in a config file, but how many people playing for the first time would actually know to do that, especially considering that the game is on Steam and GoG and is expected to work out of the box.
>>320171024
>it makes no sense
It does though. There is a shitload of crewmembers around the ship. Of course the Many will sent more troops to your location and on other decks to secure them.
You can, if you are an american pussy which it seems you are, mod the respawn rates and completely even remove it.
>>320171753
>People altering the gun degradation in SS2
Does anyone actually do this? I'm pretty sure the point of the game was to shoot until you have to do that repair minigame super fast
>>320171753
>but how many people playing for the first time would actually know to do that, especially considering that the game is on Steam and GoG and is expected to work out of the box.
I don't know where you live, but back in 1999 it was usual to check the .ini files. More so these days, when you got to change fov etc since the cvck devs are too lazy to put a slider or have a high default fov. Also the tutorial tells you about gun degradiation. You get about 30 of those devises total, so if you invest even 1 point in maintenance, you are good. Also there are about 5 fully repaired pistols in the first five decks, carrying those (and the less ok pistols) will get you basically an unlimited supply of working guns. Of course the contemporary gamers are fucking pussies and cant handle it but that is their problem.
>>320165519
>SS2
>Ugly
>Horrible aesthetic
System Shock 2 is literally one of the scariest games I have ever played because of it's atmosphere, style and looks. There's something about the unnatural animations and less developed graphics that make older horror games spookier to me, it's weird.
>>320172520
Lighting, art design and sound design are godtier. Blocky graphics add to that because it leaves things open for imagination. Sure, graphics could be better, but that is why we have SHTUP.
>>320164274
>people think this looks good
>>320164274
>3D structure face
>not represented via digital image
Seriously? Already mishandled from the get-go.
>people in this thread are actually saying bad things about system shock 2
you're either plebs or under 18 and should be banned
>>320158895
>Are you ready to revel in my magnificence, hacker?
What the fuck is this? Shodan would never talk like this.
>>320173087
that's a fanmade video from a year ago senpai.
Exactly a year ago today, how about that?
>>320173169
There are plenty of legit criticisms of SS2.
>>320173169
it's not a perfect game and has a bunch of very obvious shortcomings
it's still good though
>>320173501
>>320173559
point out flaws but people saying it's shit?
come the fuck on now
>>320173226
Ok my bad but that is still stupid.
>>320158895
Because SS2 is the most overrated game to come out of the 90's.
I like SS1 more than 2.
>>320158895
Are they using her old voiceactor?
>>320173638
>it's overrated so it's bad and we should never talk about
>>320173654
Me too. I'm going to be mad if they take out the rpg stat bullshit and people whine about it for "not being true to the series".
>>320173729
no tara strong is voicing Shodan and Troy Baker will voice the protag
>>320173729
It sounds like it, they bothered to use a clip of her old VA on the reveal site
Bioshock is literally a more stream-lined version of SS2. Almost identical plot structure but with a better setting/atmosphere.
They dropped some of the technical things but that is probably b/c consoles.
>>320173729
It's been confirmed they are.
>>320173881
I don't remember Shodan saying anything like that
I do like the cut in and cut out noise of SS2, makes it sound they care about the source
>>320173979
terri brosius also wrote a lot of SS1 and 2 so hopefully they let her do that for ss3.
>>320173979
Fuck yes.
>>320174048
That's what i thought. She also says "you think i forgotten you" which basically is a innuendo of the ending in ss2.
>>320174137
And did some level design for Thief. My favorite mission too, Song of the Caverns.
http://www.digital-eel.com/zdim/stuff/TDPdesign.htm
>>320173769
That's imageboards mentality there, yeah. Talk about something more then once in a half a year and you end up with furious hipsters shitposting every thread screaming about being "most overrated insufferable unplayable shit in all of history forever"
>>320174336
LGS was too good for this world.;_;
>>320173963
they share a lot of similar ideas but bioshock focused more on action and shootan (not that it was particularly good anyway) instead of exporation etc when you think about it it was fairly linear as far as progression goes
level design was very ss2-ish and art direction was top notch but i still think ss1 beats the later installments on pretty much every point
Reminder this is what the actual game the same developers are making RIGHT NOW.
and it looks like a steaming pile of shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLkX_s2euRk
Do not support these devs if they open a kickstarter for System Shock 3.
>>320174534
b-b-but it's pre-pre-alphaReally
>>320169481
blah blah blah blah
>>320173963
Bioshock is "streamlined" because it needed to accomodate to console hardware
Setting/atmosphere being better is just opinions.
The fatal flaw of bioshock is that instead of an inventory, you get "spam use key everywhere while not shooting"
It's system shock but pandering to a broader audience.
Still a good game, though
>>320174048
Well it IS being made the studio that was founded by Paul Neurath and apparently the people who made the System Shock 1 remaster is helping, so I would guess they care a lot.
>>320174534
Honestly tho who else could possibly handle SS3? Better them than some shitty AAA developer.
Ideally SS3 would never be made, but what are you going to do.
>>320174256
Stephen Russell (who mostly did Thief voices but also did Diego and The Many in SS2) is with them as well, but there's no word on whether or not he has any part in SS3. Probably too early to be sure.
>>320173979
>>320175162
Where are you getting this information?
>>320175141
I'd trust Arkane if they weren't associated with Bethesda right now. They're Looking Glass fanboys and it shows in their games. In fact, Terri Brosius is working on Dishonored 2 as well as this.
>>320175162
Holy fucking shit. That is awesome
>tfw (maybe) no Korenchkin
His voice was awesome.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgF9irdJlRw
>>320175141
Arkane but not while they still have Bethesda's corporate cock in their asshole
>>320175363
This. Arkane has never made a bad game. If they could go under CD Projekt etc things would be great.
>>320175282
Stephen Russell: http://www.pcgamer.com/stephen-russell-the-voice-of-garrett-joins-underworld-ascendant/
Confirmation of SHODAN's voice is part of a press release that went out today.
>>320175363
>Dishonored
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krmPIA8peHg
>>320163141
The cancer killing the industry isn't kickstarter...it's AAA games.
Both System Shock games failed to reach their full potential, and as much as I love them, they haven't aged particularly well either.
With the current trend for disappointing remakes and sequels, I just can't see it turning out well.
>that VR question in the survey
I don't know what to make of this.
>>320175413
Is that Russell? It doesn't sound like him but neither does Karras.
Raoul was my favorite of his characters
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crw7LEnweaM
>>320175710
Care to elaborate on failing their full potential and their, in your opinion, bad aging?
>>320175710
>i couldn't get into this very old game because reasons
>oh it just aged poorly that's it
No fuck you faggot. Good games design doesn't age. Sure visually they look like ass, but they are still as good as they were when they were released.
>>320175586
oh damn that's some good shit right there. It has a decent chance of being good now.
>>320175784
No it is not Russell. It is Ian Vogel
wew lad
>>320176173
kek
>>320176173
>#shots_fired
This is reassuring.
>>320176173
HAH
>>320175638
>The Rageaholic
>>320177140
Sounds like you just can't refute his points, anon.
>>320175638
>complaining about ugly people in Dishonored
nigger that was the best shit
>Atmosphere from SS2
>RPG elements from SS2
>Soundtrack on the same style as SS2
>Throw in some Metroid prime style upgrades
>UE4 graphics
A man can dream.
i know it will end up being a bioshit infinite clone.
because
>new dev that hasn't even released their crowdfunded game
>SS3 will be on unity
into the trash
>>320177285
Sounds like you can't think for yourself and need somebody else to make up your opinions for yourself.
>>320177714
>RPG elements from SS2
>BioShock Infinite dev on team
It's automatically shit.
>>320174534
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h7bTo5xLyQ
reminder that half life 1 looked like this and it was one of the worst games of all time when it came out!!111
>>320177714
>nothing from SS1
into the trash you go
>>320177714
No you don't. What makes you think that would happen? Ken Levine is not working on this game.
>>320177778
>it will be on unity
Got a source on that m8?
>>320177945
thank god for that
>>320177981
check their twitter
>>320177852
A concept artist. A ton of his cool shit got cut from infinite, it gets dumped on /v/ sometimes. And he was on System Shock and Thief as well.
http://www.robbwatersart.com/
>Wait a minute, that AI
>>320177714
SS1 had better music.
>>320158895
>it's a vehicle-based platformer
>>320178136
I can't find anything about SS3 being on Unity.
>>320178565
>it's a flight simulator
>>320175695
No, Kickstarter is pretty cancerous. It's way too popular and way too unsustainable and will only cause problems when it inevitably goes away but the void it created in the industry remains. There can be multiple bad things in the industry.
>>320178619
>it's an isometric turn-based RPG
>>320164274
Besides the face, it tries way too hard with the world falling away. All the explodey bullshit ruins the effect of the feeling that SHODAN has just plucked you from reality into her internet universe, that reality melts away when she wants. It's just shit being torn apart now.
>>320178718
UnderRail. Release is next week. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-kefd0cFWs
>>320178620
Are you kidding? Everything must be the fault of one specific-yet-nebulous entity or practice, whether it be in video games or real life!
>>320159465
they were doing a shodan announcer pack for Dota2, so yeah.... expecting more from the VA
>>320164274
>shodan is a physical thing
>there's a majority who have never played 1 according to the poll
do not make suggestions to the dev about SS3 unless you've done this first
>>320175710
SS2 is still great, especially with the texture packs. UR A FAGET.
>>320179006
http://strawpoll.me/6212418
>>320179006
probably because MUH CONFUSING INTERFACE
it isn't even that hard i don't get why people complain so much about it
>>320179282
Mouselook and the thing that you can resize it help enormously.
>>320179282
people just whinge about it because it's not a typical shootan game with mouselook
>>320179618
mouselook ruins it, changes the whole way you play for the worse and you mean fullscreening? that was always been an option just press 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkFgV4SY6x0
>>320180408
i refuse to buy SS3 if they don't have techno playing throughout the entire game
>>320180119
Yes fullscreening and yeah it was an option, but could easily be overlooked or if you watch screenshots from the internet.
I, personally, really appreciate the mouselook. I did play it once without it and it was okay, but it got, in my opinion, a lot better with it on.
>>320180408
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lscOAMvYkd4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgQrQ8JXzHg
>>320164026
>>320164026
>>320164026
>>320164026
This 100 times over. It's fucking despicable and anyone who defends it is the same. The publisher could fund if they wanted to, but why not save money and make the customer pay twice? Make them feel "special" like the game couldn't happen with out them and they'll eat up any of the shit that results.
>>320181090
Night Dive is wasting all their money on the pointless SS1 remake. That money should be going to SS3.
There's no way this will match the greatness of the first two games...
Look at Bioshock by the ACTUAL dev from System Shock! Everything was dumbed down in the name of politics and self-importance.
>>320181367
best case scenario we get something similar to human revolution
>>320175695
I think the industry itself is the cancer
>>320180920
It's okay if you like it that way anon, at least you got to play that masterpiece of a game.
It still fucks up cyberspace, and I have a feeling that's why a lot of people complain about it, because they play with mouselook.
They made a bad mistake, making it the default option in EE instead of giving you a choice straight up.
>>320180408
mac music is pretty good too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qBe3qo2uuA
i dunno why they didnt include it with EE
i dunno what soundfont this is either but it sounds pretty good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIUgojwub9U
>>320181619
well the only way to disable/enable it is through the config file so i can understand why they went with that as default they would just be avoiding a lot of complaints lol
>>320181619
Well, you can always change it and I think that contemporary gamers prefer it that way.
>>320181925
Well I don't know, adding a prompt to SHLINK which asks you what you prefer can't be that hard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8ga23Xdw7k
hopefully they get eric brosius back to do some music
>>320182358
You're now on the engineering deck. Find the engine core and reset it. This will restore power to the elevators. I'm getting some kind of strange readings from down there, so keep your eyes open.
>>320182430
I can't think of anything he'd be working on now, but he was involved in some way with the DOTA 2 SHODAN sound pack so maybe.
>>320182876
We can only hope.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRRtq6DaBcE
>yfw when every turret you hack has an individual code which Xerxes speaks out.
>Subject: humanity
bumb
>>320182987
He's not the only musician who worked on that game though.
https://soundcloud.com/robotkid
Josh Randall said he'd lend a hand on SS3 if he's asked to (2 years ago).
>>320177945
>>320177985
>Kevin Levine's SystemKek 3.
>French bitch that throws health and ammo at you
>Linear path, no exploration
>All classes merged as one seamlessly destroying any replay value.
>>320184662
wasnt that kind of what the system shock infinite mod was
>>320175162
Apparently he was Nick Valentine in FO4.
>>320184770
I wish people would think about good game design for a change.
>>320174534
this looks bad to you? the guy in the video literally says
>indie game
>6 person team
>still a lot of work to be done
it looks above average for what it is, so kill yourself family
>inb4 voiced protag
>>320188874
That video for UA has a voiced character but in the version with actual dev commentary he says the final game will be a silent protag so you have to figure things out for yourself in "true roleplaying fashion". Make of that what you will.
I for one wouldn't mind Garrett of the future.
>>320189490
stephen russell is always good
