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Does /v/ play this? Worth 20 bucks? Looks fun but I'm not sure if I should just wait for a sale
>>320138130
Wait for a sale. Winter sale is just a few weeks away (or less), I'm sure it'll get at the very least a baby 10-20% discount.
I'm waiting until they fix m&kb controls, refund pending.
After many hours in crimsonland, alien swarm, alien breed and all the other topdown shooters which have proper controls this shit feels crippled on purpose and not fun at all.
>>320138916
Buy a controller
Buy a mic
Push to talk
HD is fun as fuck!
>>320138130
games with gorillion bucks worth of dlc - lolno
> But muh game has been out on psconsulbox for long
no
>>320139424
>Playing shooters with controller
I'm not a retard, every genre has its optimal input devices, for shooters it's m&kb.
>>320139828
>twin stick shooter
>using an input device without analog sticks.
>>320138130
Well worth 20 bucks. I got it at launch (for ps4) and i play it all the time. Its not a good binge game like a AAA title but its great for quick fun when your bored.
>>320140345
>implying mouse doesn't have a million more states than an analoge stick
They even admitted they fucked the controls on purpose because it was too easy otherwise.
So instead of actually making the game harder with more spawns, better AI etc they cripple controls to make it less intuitive.
>>320141185
how exactly did they cripple the controls?
>>320141357
Your crosshair dissapers and resets every time you move.
That means you have to "resync" your hand can crosshair every time.
You have to aim with WADS and then again with mouse after pressing the aim button.
I don't know a single topdown shooter which does this in such a backwards way.
>>320141357
WASD moves character, Character will look where your mouse cursor is. Cross hair appears when holding right click to aim. Otherwise shooting is like hip firing.
Character rotation is delayed like it is on Playstation since its just how the game was designed (team work, a sense of being overwhelmed as enemies come from all side).
Been playing M+KB and personally have no issue with it; even with the cursor being invisible until aiming, its not hard to maintain your perspective and sense of where your cursor is, given your character looks in that direction.
But i also found dark souls best played on M+KB with a Naga, wouldn't have it any other way.
>>320138130
Pirated it and jumped through more loops than I care to name trying to get it to work with friends with steamemu. We finally got it to work but teamkilling is a pain in the ass. Since me and my buds are all people who exclusively play FPS the camera is disorienting as fuck because its zoomed in so close.
Its fun and the team killing can be hilarious at times but the zoom level makes it really annoying.
>>320138130
yes i bought it and am enjoying it, its really amazing, its kinda repetitive though but it changes depending on who you play with,
could use more enemy variety also DLC weaponry is op as fuck so avoid DLC
>>320144486
This
Also have no issue with the M+KB controls
Fucking bug pieces of shit call alerts before they're even on the screen fuck goddamn shit
>>320144486
>op dlc
Only the tanto is op and only in the sense that its a very good allrounder good for almost any mission if you havent got a specific plan. Its not the most powerful nor does it have the range or special ammo that the other guns have.
Op strats are the motar launcher and the tank buster grenade, though both are still not as goid as the recoilless rifle with a good reloader friend.
>>320138130
game is fucking awesome. arrowhead know how to make a game.
>>320140849
i disagree. i can play for hours on end.
>>320144143
multi works with pirated version?
I had fun removing Cyborg.
>>320138130
Game is fun, but after the first day I played it the multiplayer just stopped working. It takes forever to join in, freezes, and then either dumps me to the main menu with "connection has been lost" or spends a minute migrating hosts and then doing the same thing. What gives? I was playing fine with people the day before.
>>320145972
There's a marvelous page called mpcg, google it.
>>320138130
Best 20€ spent this day, seriously.
The more you play as a team, the more fun you get.
>>320145972
smartsteamemu
The game is great, as long as you have friends to play with.
If you don't have a group of autists, it's probably not worth it though.
Made by same dudes as Magicka. Offers similar friendly fire situations, though not always as wacky. Also has a neat community initiative system and weekend bonus events.
>>320138916
You can't do 360 spins instantly while aimed in it's intentional.
>>320146424
This year* fuck
>>320146204
>>320146449
noice, thanks
though these things always look fishy
>>320138130
Its a fuckload of fun. Me and my wife love it.
>>320146606
You're a retard and probably not smart enough to get it to work if you think scene tools look "fishy"
>>320146606
I've been using mpcg for quite a while now and all their games work incredibly well, the other thing you can use is tunngle or Evolve (I recommend Evolve) if the game has virtual LAN.
>>320146450
can you explain to me how magicka is supposed to work with 4 players? there's just so much shit flying around the screen between me and my friend, i couldn't imagine playing with two more. helldivers is a bit less busy, so 4-player coop tends to work very well.
>>320138916
>fix
What's broken?
>>320146869
Read the thread before asking dumb questions.
>>320146980
Boy it's been a long day for me.
>>320146707
sorry that I'm cautious with stuff that has and unknown origin and is used to, in theory, break the law
>>320146791
I used Tunngle a lot, heard about Evolve too, but never got to check it out
>>320146484
Nobody asks for instant turns, just make the cursor always visible so I have an idea where my charatcer will turn once I start aiming.
Post PURGING songs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhrw4v66hXg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upMxDCviLKQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH0xyNpmwSQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdWWen6PaeE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOpqnAuQr5k
>>320147184
It always starts right in front of your character, in the direction they're facing.
>>320146806
its designed to not be a serious game, with a goal of creating fun through chaos. As i'm sure you've already realizd Magicka allows for many combinations of elements and casting styles to create various spells. In multiplayer this can allow for players to all use 1 spell, such as a beam and have it combine, or conflicting spells that create explosions or other devastating effects. It also lets you combo different abilities and use teamwork, such as having 1 player soak a monster, the other freeze the wet mob with cold, then have a third player launch a boulder to shatter or cause significant damage.
Its just a hodgepodge of disorganized fun as you go around this little world, collecting new spells and stuff and following a story.
>want to eventually get this and play
>no friends to play it with
welp
>>320147527
This is a terrible way for WADS since it only has 8 positions.
Having a cursor at all times on screen and the charatcer turning there when you press aim would be the more natural solution.
>>320147561
yeah, i've played several hours of it. it just gets insane playing the challenge levels. so fucking busy. maybe i just need to get gooder.
>>320147685
Randoms are just as fun. Form new bonds fighting through the bowels of hell.
Suit color customization when? I wanna make my own Doomguy.
>>320147818
But that doesn't work well with the game mechanics.
Either you instantly turn to face your cursor, making the game way easier than intended, or people would start firing the moment they aim, which would mean a hell of a lot more friendly fire.
>>320148386
>or people would start firing the moment they aim
Why would they do this?
Also they could make it optionl for all I care, how hard is it to make a "cursor always on" tickbox in controls, and disable it as default?
>>320148716
Because people would right click, then immediately left click to start shooting.
The character swings around and shoots the whole time, because of the delayed turn.
Teammates get sprayed with fire.
I would understand an option if it was a visibility thing like hints, but it's really more of a game mechanic.
The only good solution is to keep the mouse visible at all times even when not aiming so you'll know where your character is going to aim when you hold RMB.
That's literally it.
>>320138130
Christmas sales are less than a week away. Just wait
>finally get mech since i only had base game no DLC
>MFW
>>320150679
The base mech is better than the DLC ones anyways. The DLC ones are cool, but not really as useful.
Fun game. Wait for a sale. It lacks content. Dlc is offensive.
>>320149646
The aiming system is fine the way it is.
>>320150679
Yeah mech wrecks at medium difficulty but becomes a bother at hard unless the whole team goes mech and they know what they are doing.
>>320151515
The aiming system is completely broken on M/KB.
This is why I use a controller for this game.
Look at Alien Swarm for a working system.
>>320151515
>Actual process
The actual process is aiming, THEN shooting, and not being a fucking mongrel.
>>320151663
Problem i have is armored ones since i don't have anti armor rockets and i only get 8 of them. But it's fun to be a walking mech compared to squishy.
>>320151991
>doesn't work like X game, the way I like
>completely broken
Different =/= broken, Anon
>>320152417
any system where you constantly have to lift your mouse to reposition even though all you do is aim on a 2D plane is broken.
additionally, mouse and keyboard doesn't allow throwing shit off screen, which makes it actually inferior to controller.
>the literal retards complaining about the controls
I like the way AS controlled better, but jesus christ these people saying it's broken and they have no idea which way their aimer will show up are absolutely retarded.
also, don't pay 20 bucks for it, OP, and don't buy the weapons packs. the only useful one is the ranger for the uav drone, anyway.
>>320152093
Yeah, on hard levels tanks spawn all the time and immediately after one is taken out so there is just no way to keep up. Dealing with immediate threats and running away is usually the best option on hell dive missions but the mech is slow as fuck so its easilly overrun.
>>320152729
>mouse and keyboard doesn't allow throwing shit off screen
yes it does, and controller is still worse than KB+M, because even though you have to wait for player animations to aim where you want, it's still more precise and smoother than using a controller.
>Trying to watch dumbfucks with controllers drive the tank
>>320152729
>any system that is different is broken
It's like saying CS is broken because it doesn't work the same way CoD does.
>>320153945
>>320153023
If you've got the Mech with the cannon, they oneshot their tanks. The disposable rockets don't last long (disposable) and the Carl G lookalike requires stationary and/or teamate reloading.
>>320154053
>>320138130
>that one guy who keeps shilling for this shitty console port that isn't even good
stop
>>320153635
Fanboys like you are cancer.
>Strafing run rockets will specifically target teammates if no enemies are nearby
>Helldiver respawns always land on teammates
This has to be intentional, I don't understand why this is the only drop that doesn't land where the beacon is.
My favourite combo that i have seen so far was when a dude throw out a shredder missle while the team was about to be overrun and the called up a reinforce just before it detonated, wiped the area clean and we were all back within seconds.
>>320154457
>people who enjoy things are cancer
ok
>>320154457
>fanboys like you are cancer
It isn't a bad system. I like the AS system, but it was a different system for a different game. I wouldn't want AS for Helldivers, and I wouldn't want Helldivers for AS.
Neither system is better. You might like them differently, but that doesn't mean they should be the same.
>>320154297
>that one guy who keeps spering out and continues to yell shill and says stop even though nothing he does will make a difference on an anonymous imageboard.
>>320147685
from my experience most randoms at higher difficulties are pretty good
>>320153635
haven't tried the mouse controlls out but if what that anon said is true there is no reason to defend it
Post more webms, so I can persuade my friends to play with me
>>320141716
So you are mad that your character can't spin like a top while running in the same direction, keeping up with your mouse cursor?
Everyone knows that looks retarded. Besides a lot of the tanks/armored walkers have slow turn speed. Stop being a bitch.
>>320156123
I don't have any webms but I have this
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=opnEwKYv2vI
>>320146204
Can't find it, what is it?
