>First truly difficult fight of the game
>That music
>That coop, bonding with random strangers over this hard-ass fight
>Realizing just how GOAT this game was going to be
Name a more memorable, iconic moment in post-2000s gaming
I dare you
>>320137482
sorry but Demon's Souls is still better.
>>320137660
better for faggots you say
After countless tries I realized the key was to not dodge or heal, just sit there and attack.
>>320137482
half life 2
and also if you go over aha effect from the bosses they become pretty easy besides some tail cutting actions
These we're not a hard fight. First hard fight is Spidertits depending on how far you have leveled.
I didn't think this fight was hard at all. I beat it first try without coop. At the same time Quelag took me 20 times to beat.
>>320137482
>co-op
It stops being hard once you co-op
>Name a more memorable, iconic moment in post-2000s gaming
SoC dash for NPP
>>320137660
lolno, half of DeS is underwhelming as fuck and it has some really fucking shitty parts
I'm not surprised if you just push it as better because its your first or MUH EXCLUSIVE
>Souls games
>Hard
>>320137847
Dodging in souls is a meme, although I only played DeS and DaS1, but its especially true for DeS
>>320137482
Idk what all the fuss is about Dark Souls. I played it and got like 400 hours into the game on PC and i beat it all alone solo the first time i played it without problems and without magic. The game is just hard for casuals but it's indeed one of the best action-rpgs i played
>>320137983
>>320138009
>>320138048
>>320138146
I'm guessing you people didn't play it at launch
Patch 1.00 Dark Souls was BRUTAL
They made everything easier, PC players and late adopters never got the full package
Also people had no idea about how upgrades and shit worked back then, the game was a nightmare at times
>>320138009
i have no idea how you could come up with such an incorrect statement
how does it even feel to be that wrong
>>320138269
What was so hard about it in 1.0?
People claimed DeS was hard as balls and I picked up a ps3 for it then realized its a fucking breeze
And of course I didn't play at launch, I'm not game starved lol
>>320137482
more memorable moment.. Hmm Half-Life, Bioshock, Portal list goes on.. its just another good rpg game
I thought it was pretty hard until I remembered you can block with the shield.
>>320137482
>co-op
>>320137482
There isnt, because darksouls1 is the bedt game of this decade, and came out in 2011.
Fucking SJW kikes ruined everything
>>320138408
>Everything gave MUCH less souls, meaning levelling was slower
>Bosses had more HP and did more damage
>4kings spawn rate was insane
>You couldn't lock on to fogged enemies
The list goes on
>>320138496
>playing DeS
>keep shield up and run in circles
>win game
whew
>>320138587
>>320138587
>You couldn't lock on to fogged enemies
I'm only now playing DaS and I honestly have no idea what this even is
>>320137482
>my first souls game the thread
bloodborne, fucker.
>>320138269
I wish they never patched this game. I bought a hardcover strategy guide for it at launch which had all sorts of useful stats and info that became USELESS after a few days. Fuck Bamco.
>>320138810
bloodborne was your first souls game? sucks to be underaged huh?
>>320138810
>implying most people didn't start out with das
shit m8 I'd be hard pressed to have a des discussion
>>320138919
pirate the 1.00 version ps3 then
>>320138743
Do you know what the ring of fog is?
>>320139050
No I only progressed as far as the butterfly boss and capra demon
They were pretty easy even solo if you had upgraded your weapon a little bit, you just had to be really aggressive so you didn't get double teamed. And if you brought Solaire it was almost impossible to lose.
Not to mention they were just the Maneaters from Demon's Souls with slightly more varied movesets, so anyone who played that first would just kind of shrug them off. And I think Maneaters were more memorable even as someone who thinks DaS is better than DeS across the board, because they were actually one of the harder bosses in DeS and were fought in a dark, precarious arena where half the time all you could see was their eyes, and they came at the end of one of the most creepy, disgusting, and difficult levels in the game.
The most "iconic" moment in Dark Souls is Biggie Smalls. Easy.
more memorable post 2000 moment?
probably the months leading up to spore's release.
i followed the development closely for a couple of years, even went to a forum entirely based around hype for spore.
those months leading up to release must be what it would be like to watch your only son become a lgbt/junkie degenerate, then suicide in an embarrassing way.
poor fucking will wright.
>>320137482
It wasn't hard.
>>320139257
>And if you brought Solaire it was almost impossible to lose.
Yep
How were maneaters hard?
Maybe I was a bit overleveled because I did the entire chapter 2 before going for tower of latria but I did them on my first try, way easier than the gargoyles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ9iflvCwok
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayNe9Hoxmb0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEbfDtDaUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-CSZDbKuL4
I would post more but I don't have the time now. Just wanted to say OP is a retard who didn't play much games if he believes Gargoyle's fight is some sort of iconic gaming moment.
>>320138919
It was patched for the better. Why would you buy a strategy guide?
>>320138587
Tomb of the Giants was also somehow even worse. Those fucking giant dog skeletons, Jesus Christ.
Gargoyles were still easy even on 1.0 though. I beat them on launch day with maybe two deaths and no Solaire. All you needed to do was throw a couple upgrades on your starting weapon and they would go down easy enough.
>>320139295
>poor fucking will wright.
yeah nah fuck him he did it himself
>"We were very focused, if anything, on making a game for more casual players," Wright, who is Maxis' chief engineer and one of its co-founders, told MTV Multiplayer.
>"Spore has more depth than, let's say, The Sims did. But we looked at the Metacritic scores for Sims 2, which was around 90, and something like Half-Life, which was 97, and we decided - quite a while back - that we would rather have the Metacritic and sales of Sims 2 than the Metacritic and sales of Half-Life."
He wanted a game that would make money over a game that would be hailed as one of the greatest.
There's always that one faggot who thinks demon souls is better on every dark souls thread!
>>320137847
You should just dodge though
>>320139831
Wow its almost like people have different opinions
And I like DaS more myself
>>320139442
Maneaters were not that hard in the grand scheme of things, especially once you figure out to just bait them around the torch in the center of the arena, which anyone semi-experienced with Souls will get immediately. However by Demon's Souls standards they were one of the harder bosses. They would catch you off guard if it was your first Souls game because it's one of the only times in DeS where you ever potentially have to fight two strong enemies at once, and it's easy to fall off the arena if you leave the center torch area.
Compared to a lot of other Souls bosses they're not hard, but they're in a game full of really, really easy bosses. Only Flamelurker, Penetrator (without Biorr), and maybe False King Allant are more challenging.
>>320137660
nah
>>320137482
>most memorable, iconic moment post 2000 is a generic boss battle
I'm sure people will write essays about it in the next century, truly a magnificent achievement not only in gaming but science and world itself!
>>320139142
Fog is an effect thst makes you transparent and hard to see. Mainly for pvp but some enemies in the game had it too
>>320140268
Nah it was my first souls games and I still didnt feel like they were more than a generic fight really, maybe I just killed the first one way too fast but the second didn't even come in play before the first was down
Also I should have mentioned that after dragon god I actually went back to boletaria and did 1-3 first, so that helped me out even more, those 2 black phantom minister encounters were harder than maneater for me and I actually had to use thiefs ring to seperate them
Yeah flamelurker/biorless penetrator/king allant are the only challenging bosses in this game, and old king doran is still harder than all of them, or just tedious to roll and uppercut him the entire fight
>>320137482
Undertale.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_moHXjH7pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ya3yxTbkh5s
Tables Turn because you knew shit got real when it starts playing.
Sun Rises after everyone starts praying, i dropped a manly tear in that moment.
>>320138009
>>320137482
>hard-ass fight
>posts pic of a weapon that makes the fight trivial because it staggers the gargoyles
>>320137482
>Name a more memorable, iconic moment in post-2000s gaming
there are several, but this one takes the cake because it represents the exact moment in which the series showed its truest nature.And it was awesome.
>>320138919
>I bought a hardcover strategy guide
You paid money to ruin the experience for yourself? What the fuck is wrong with you?
>>320140829
Gaping Dragon hard .... what
For me it was while I was playing Elite: Dangerous while it was in its final days of beta, and I heard a track in the Supercruise suite whileI was tripping my fucking balls off on seven grams of really great shrooms after smoking some pot with friends and crying my eyes out for some reason immediately after everyone left before i calmed down and went to play vidya before passing out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqqcqFssESM
The game felt intensely serious and i still get chills hearing it to this day.
>>320141351
DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
>>320137482
>most memorable moment is an inferior rehash of a bossfight from the previous game in the franchise
Sums up modern gaming really
>>320141351
dude, drugs. lmao
>>320137482
This fight kicked my ass the first time I played
>>320138146
>half of DeS is underwhelming as fuck and it has some really fucking shitty parts
Sure you're not talking about DaS?
>>320141147
If it's your first time playing, Gaping Dragon can be a bit challenging. It took me a little bit before I figured it out.
>>320137482
You think that's a good fight? really?
>>320141850
Looks menacing but is definitely one of the easier ones , can be hard if you didnt kill the magic dancing dude
>>320141731
This desu senpai.
>LOL FIGHT SO EASY
>JUST SUMMON SOLAIRE, IMPOSSIBLE TO LOSE
Not everyone is an ARPG grognard like you, /v/. Half of you faggots (the ones without the balls to respond to this) were looking at build guides, too.
>>320142270
You can easily beat them with the starting sword though
>>320141850
Gaping Dragon and Four Kings are the hardest fights for me.
>>320142414
Upgrade your weapon and mash buttons.
>>320138408
They buffed the souls you got by 33% (roughly) and reduced enemy health by 33%.
They also increased the amount of damage you did. All of this combined made the Capra Demon a fucking nightmare in the 1.0.
PC players actually never experienced the 1.0 since they got the game in the Prepare to Die Edition patch, which came out around a year after the 1.0 and had the substantial changes already integrated (more souls from kills, more damage to enemies, etc...).
I wish they would have created a hard mode that was the 1.0.
>>320142404
When the second gargoyle comes in, he can easily flank you if you don't have an understanding of the AI's momentum.
If the fight was one gargoyle, I might agree with you, but two is challenging for new players.
>>320137660
Never played demon souls, can't say much doubt any of the other shitposters played it either. But I have one question, how does this game differentiate to dark souls 1?
>>320142087
Channelers are Cancer, so yeah. They force you to man up and "DEEEAAL WITH ME UNDEEAD WEEE HEEE EEE WHAT ARE YOU A SCRUUUUB?"
I think their presence is good. They are an obstacle that while hard, CAN be dealt with and it's better to do it than not in the long run. They are initially intimidating but teach you to stop being a little bitch and deal with problems in the game, and generally make for good "sub boss" material.
I hope DSIII has more like them. Necromancers are a good, similar thing, but having a buffer/"I spam the Soul Arrows, BITCH" enemy like them is good.
Having one interact with a boss fight is also neat, too.
When you realize that they are literally associated so closely with Seath, along with realizing those fucking golems and the Boars and the Snakemen are also his fault, it makes you fucking hate him. It puts him into context as a major source of grief for you from a very early point in the game.
He's been fucking with you since the Undead Parish.
>>320142557
Fair enough, but you can just put some electro juice on your sword and then it's easy again
>tfw you will never let go for the first time again
half as long ;_;7
>>320142270
If you get your weapon to +5, which requires a slight amount of grinding that can be accomplished by helping people through your White Sign Soapstone, the boss is a breeze.
>>320142670
you could just look up and chuck 2 firebombs tho.
>>320142819
>If you get your weapon to +5, which requires a slight amount of grinding that can be accomplished by helping people through your White Sign Soapstone, the boss is a breeze.
New players don't really know how to do this.
>>320142414
For Gaping Dragon, just bait him into charging and attack him from behind. Once he turns around, just put some distance between you and him, and wait for another charge attack. Four Kings are just bullshit.
>>320142670
Seath was a cool villain and you did end up feeling sorry for him , kidnapping maidens aside
Hope DSIII has more cool boss designs like the Gaping Dragon
>>320142756
Unless you fuck up and waste them all at failed boss attempts or Taurus, which is very common
>>320140829
this image is why I hate souls fans/threads
stop trying to outdo each other you fucking faggots
>>320142935
I didn't even know about upgrading when I started so I just used sorcery (I got the game in the 1.0).
I managed to make it through the whole game with it, of course, since sorcery is too strong.
>>320142657
It doesn't really. DaS is the same shit in a new setting with some very blatantly recycled concepts like boss fights and npcs. DaS gets a free pass for being a rehash on account of the fact most plebs haven't played DeS.
It's almost alarming how such a totally unoriginal game can end up as acclaimed and heralded as Dark Souls is.
>>320142756
Although, it's easy to squander if you aren't very, very careful and defensive because they can pull out something that surprises you and gank you quickly, making you lose that resin.
I mean, you shouldn't be that reckless, but a lot of people are.
I'm learning, but I'm still unlearning bad habits from a lot of games that allow you to YOLO charge a lot and get away with it. I also sometimes just get Mad.
>>320137482
>Name a more memorable, iconic moment in post-2000s gaming
I never asked for this.
>>320143132
because it's better than DeS
>start Morrowind
>dat music
>"Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event."
>oh fuck
>oh my fucking god the graphics and voices, this is amazing
>show my dad since he's the one who got me into daggerfall but he had quit playing video games at this point
>he's in awe too
>he gets a new computer and sets it up next to me and we play morrowind all the time right next to each other
best times of my life
>>320142557
I only played demons souls but did they just rehash the maneater fight and call it gargoyles?
>>320143214(You)
Co-op in DS breaks the fucking game. The bosses are not designed to fight against multiple opponents, they only get health buffs, which is ridiculous. I love how everybody fucking whines about how impossible it is to beat the game alone, nigga I beat DeS, DS, DS2 and BB without ever summoning anyone
>>320143283
Kind of. It's not like that's the only instance of reused concepts, though.
Also, no one calls MGS out on being a remake of MG2.
>>320143283
Only the design and basic fight structure are the same, the bosses themselves are nothing alike.
>>320137482THE WIND IS PUSHING ME
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/HecgdWq.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>Name a more memorable, iconic moment in post-2000s gaming
>>320137482
Beat them first try. Wasn't memorable at all, felt to me like an easy version of DeS's 4-2 boss, which was memorable as fuck. I can understand it being memorable if DaS was your first Souls game but to say it's an iconic moment in gaming just show you didn't play DeS when it first came out.
>>320143356
I actually feel like summoning others is like using a cheat code in dark souls. Just solo the bosses, it aint that hard.
>>320143372
>>320143393
Let's not bullshit here, it's literally maneaters with a much more forgiving arena and without the knockback blasts.
>>320137482
>post-2000s gaming
Does this mean after the year 2000 or after the era of the 2000's, AKA post-2010?
>>320138269
lol.
i played launch dark souls, it wasnt harder than demons souls. i died a few times but there was no REAL struggle outside of GETTING to the bellfry gargoyles, the reposting knights were godlike. want to know why you think Dark souls was hard? YOU PLAYED IT FIRST. Demons souls was LITERALLY harder with less bullshit.
>Also people had no idea about how upgrades and shit worked back then, the game was a nightmare at times
you mean.... you had no idea? stop projecting how shit you are.
>>320143393
Didnt have to worry about falling off the edge
>>320143298 (You)
>>320139467
yes.
this entire thread is cancer
some anons ree'ing at each other because they don't compliment them on how they killed some boss in a game in one try.
>>320143542
But the Gargoyles have completely new movesets, they didn't just copy paste the Maneaters. It is kind of a rehash, but it seems to be more for the sake of referencing Demon's than out of laziness.
DaS 3 launch day is gonna be pure fucking chaos. I'm so hyped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0
>>320141147
>Gaping Dragon hard .... what
Lautrec is the one saying it. You can summon him for that fight. He just mad rushes the dragon and dies easily.
>>320137482
>2015
>marketing for sony
souls was only good if you were a nihon impressionable chink.
the gameplay is bland as fuck
stale mediocre combat
souls is only hyped so much because it is literally the best japan can do, and no one wants to admit japan is failing
seriously, the combat is like PS2 era slashy type jap shit
and the huge bossfight gimmick which is overused doesn't impress me
>Gargoyles
>Hard
>Not pounding Quelaag's spider cunt first
I pity you scrub
Are there any games that are like a co-op version of Dark Souls? Just the grouping in the Souls series is kinda aids.
>>320144102
Here's you're reply
Nah, i realised halfway through the first area that enemies dont have tracking, and just circle straffed everything else in the game, except those skele dogs and wheel skeletons, which were easy enough
>>320139592
>only thing in the room is a bloodsucker that goes down easily
WOOOOOOOW SO ICONIC AND MEMORABLE
>>320139034
>not playing modern games like demon souls and dark souls means your underage
are you?
>>320137482
>he summoned somebody
>still found it hard
>>320144102
(you)
>>320138546
>Not participating in jolly cooperation
It's almost like you want to go hollow
I always figured summoning for fights was a cheesy faggot way of playing the game so I never did it.
Only time I considered doing it was on Manus but I figured since I downed everything else solo I wasnt gonna break my streak.
Then summoned in DS2 like twice and it affirmed my suspicions that summoning help makes the game fucking retardedly easy
>>320146267
Summoning does generally make things easier, but in some cases it can make it harder. Summoning Solaire against the Gaping Dragon is usually a bad idea since he's too dumb to move or use his lightning spears, so he dies three seconds in and you're left with a buffed boss and no help.
>>320137482
Gargoyles got some nice hips.
>>320138245
finished DeS without dodging or parrying once, what is impossible in DaS
>>320144674
>How memorable something is depends on its difficulty
>>320137482
Ludwig fight just shits over ever that OP
>That cutscene in the middle of the fight
>the song just getting more and more hype
>>320139442
Maneaters were the Hitlers of NG+. They get so much harder on subsequent NG+ runs because their health increases too much for the common "kill one before the other one causes trouble" tactic to work.
