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Battlefield 4 is actually really good. Last DICE game I bought was BC2 and I'm really fucking liking this. I forgot what I was missing. Surprised an indie dev hasn't copied their land, sea, and air formula.
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>an indie dev
>land sea air
>all working nicely and blending together with no hiccups
>indie dev
Son, I see idiots everyday, but it's not often I meet stupid
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>>320117703
Oh you know what you're right I'm sorry I should've realized only DICE is talented enough to do something so ambitious and old
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i heard they patched shit up. I was 100% certain when it launched that i wasnt gonna buy it.


but now im hesitating, is it that good?
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yeah it's good NOW but it sucked at launch.

and seriously how the hell do they just forget party systems at launch these days.
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>>320117260
>tfw no Karkand
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Got it from the sale. I recently bought a gamepad for emulators and shit and I decided what the hell what better shooter to fuck around with a controller than this. I can sit more comfortably at least. Anyone got any tips? This shit is hard as hell. How the fuck do console gamers play with aim assist off?
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>>320120006

No, it's a mess still. Every single game is one sided because people don't know how to play and vehicle whores populate most servers.

It's only fun if you have a large group of friends to play with.
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>>320117260
Didn't the game have a lawsuit at launch
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>>320120537
surely you will get the karklands
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>>320120775
>play with aim assist off?
they don't. none of console shooters don't have it
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>>320120775

only use it for air vehicles
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BF4 is great.
People just hated it at launch and the fact that it's on Origin.
I want to play the new map cause I LOVED BF2 but I'm too into Xenoblade.
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>>320117260
I loved BC2 but absolutely hated BF3. BF4 looked basically like BF3.5 so I have no interest. Especially after the pile of shit that is Battlefront.
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>>320118178
Scope is not a question of talent, dingus.
It is a matter of funding, and funding comes from publishers, big ones if you want 3 theaters working seamlessly together, like EA, Ubisoft, Activision.
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>>320120775
>How the fuck do console gamers play with aim assist off?
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>32 dudes all spawning on each other per team
No.
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>>320121251
Game engines are free now. Funding is the least of indie problems, the main issues being having enough of a workforce and initiative to get anything done. Ever tried to get NEETs to fucking do anything?
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>>320120775
firstly, they don't play with aim assist off
secondly, they all suck
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>>320117260
>Battlefield 4 is actually really good.
>BF4
>Really good
>No ingame server browser
>Unholy loading times without a SSD
>Premium
>1500 Ticks 24/7 maps with dick admins
>Good
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>>320117260
Battlefield 4 took a shit ton of patches to get functioning, it was total shit in its first year. After it was fixed though it's been fantastic.

Also, indie devs generally can't copy the formula of a AAA game like Battlefield 4 because the scale of the game is pretty fucking vast. Generally indie games are smaller so they can get released in a reasonable timeframe.
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>>320117260
This piece of shit really fucking pisses me off as a person who enjoys firearms and singleplayer campaigns. They made all the firearms have super fucking retarded unchangeable camos in the campaign and it triggered me hardcore. The gameplay was decent enough but this bullshit kept me from using half the fucking guns. Fucking bright BLUE CAMO EVERYWHERE. Fuck.
Fuck EA and DICE.
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>>320121742
>>No ingame server browser
what?
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It's not great.
But after playing Battlefront it's like a breath of fresh air. It could be so much worse.
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>>320122805
>>320122805

You do it through your internet browser, when you pick one, the game starts and put you in the selected match.
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>>320122960
And this is a bad thing how?
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>>320122997
It's just inconvenient.
Having a browser to look at stats and change loadouts is fine, but it shouldn't replace regular game menus.
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>>320122939
>AS VAL
MY NIGGER
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>>320122997

Gee, I don't know, maybe having to start up the game and go through loading screens whenever I want to change servers isn't so bad.
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>>320123075
Feels more convenient to me. Don't have to look at loading screens ever and it never fucks up.
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>>320123281
>Don't have to look at loading screens

>He doesn't know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMbmzq_QVUI

You have to go through this everytime you change servers.
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>>320123113
It's the only thing I use.
I stopped playing for a while and just started again, and boy do I still live the hell out of it.
I need to adjust though, my aim is off,
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>>320121618
>Funding is the least of indie problems
>the main issues being having enough of a workforce
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>>320123862
Can you read? Why would NEETs need to get paid to make a video game? Not every game needs funds to produce now that every puzzle piece is free.
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>>320120797
>complaining about vehicle whores in battlefield
This is how you know to discard an opinion
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>>320120797
>not exclusivley fucking over vehicles
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>>320124017
Is this a bit?

Are you trying to make a joke?
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>>320117260
the continued support of the game along with the cheap $20 sales including Premium grew the community again and it already has double the players of Battlefront

hopefully EA learns from this but i doubt it
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Its worth buying as its less than £10 now because theyve unfucked the game and its a good game plus theyre still releasing new free maps as dlc. Dont buy premium version as hardly anyone plays the premium maps on pc just stick with base game and youre golden.
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>>320124171
That clearly went above the wing.
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>>320124704
Yeah, netcode gets a little weird when SMAWing flying stuff
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>>320118178
>>320121618
>>320124017
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>>320124687

What are you talking about? There's plenty of premium servers out there.
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>>320122997
I mean it's something that pretty much every game but league of legends moved past 15 years ago
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>>320122960
This is so fucking awful
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>>320124237
>I can't load up Blender and UE4
Fuckoff.
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Battlefield is for autistics.
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>>320125997
Why?
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>>320126113
It's way, way too OTT with DUDE THATS SICK HAAAAA Michael Bay bullshit.
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>Surprised an indie dev hasn't copied their land, sea, and air formula.
Are you retards really falling for this obvious troll?
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>>320125515
You are really autistic if you troll this pathetic.
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>>320126376
do you have braindamage?
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>>320126376
Well I understand why you'd think that, but why does that mkae it for autists.
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>>320126540
Hmmmm Red Orchestra. Nope. Insurgency. Nope. ARMA? Essentially a different genre. There's a mountain of ill will towards DICEA, so one would think some fucks would capitalize on this shit. I'm not trolling just because you retards get triggered by every random thing.
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>>320126540
>/v/
>falling for an obvious troll
Business as usual
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>>320126797
>I'm not trolling
ah, so you are just retarded, huh
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>>320126540
>What's ARK, DayZ, and all of the other successful indie projects?
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>>320128019
>successful indie projects?
Like? Guess I should specify the obvious: I'm not talking about youtubebait survival MMOs. At least you're not shitposting.
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Anyone from yorup wanna play with me? Ive put 500 hours in this game all alone:(
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Unless they increased the infantry TTK and also made air vehicles actually have a presence instead of just being fireworks and explosions in the distance I doubt the game is any good.

It's not proper battlefield unless a single pilot is single-handedly bombing my team into the stone age
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>>320129129
to all jet pilots shitting on innocent infantry: you are faggots
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>>320128531
Yeah, modeling and animating and coding a bunch of dinosaurs, taming, mating, and behavior -- on a technical level -- might seem less intense than a level-based shooter, but I'm sure there's some room for argument there.

/s
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>>320117260
It's the best shooter on the market right now, I still play it all the time.
It did several things right:
-Let people make their own dedicated servers and give them full control over them which gives the game a lifespan as long as people are willing to play it for
-Massive post-launch support with free content like new maps and huge, dramatic gameplay improvements

Even now, years later, there's a new free map pack coming out soon with some maps from Bad Company 2 remade in the Frostbite 3 engine. Their support is excellent and this game will be active and popular for long after Battlefront and Hardline kick the can.

My one biggest complaint is that I've had quite a lot of technical issues that seem like they should be easy fixes but either weren't widespread or DICE just never bothered to correct them.
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>>320131014
Why are you arguing shit that has nothing to do with anything I said?
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>>320129129
Nobody can touch our transport helo, I don't know who you're playing with.
Get four mates, two on the guns, two with stingers and repair tools, enjoy your immortal rocket helo that can take on attack helos easily.
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>>320131562
>dramatic gameplay improvements
Like what, shillhead?
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>>320132092
Well for a start they completely overhauled the entire movement and ADS system like a year after the game's release to make it feel more like BF3.
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>>320117260
You can get the game for 10 bucks online so Its not even a big risk to try it out I guess
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>>320132289
So they made it more like another modern zombie EA shooter? Wow, I'll download Origin right now!
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>>320129129
The infantry TTK is already really high. Air vehicles especially Jets and Scout Helicopters can easily top the board.
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the game has definitely gotten better over the years, and the fact its still getting maps is a nice treat

i bought at release and holy shit it was virtually unplayable for months, but i am glad i stuck through it
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>>320132507
Why are you asking then if you're not interested in this genre of game?

Do you want me to say they added characters from Neptunia and replaced all the light machine guns with rollers from Splatoon?
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>>320131562
>there's a new free map pack coming out soon
I think it hits tonight at 11 PDT.
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>>320117260
Its because DICE LA took it over and made it good. While they give free dlc and fix the game, DICE Sweden is fucking up Battlefront. Wonder if the LA studio will take it over and fix it as well. Can't blame Sweden too much since their country is being destroyed.
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>>320132745
>Can't blame Sweden too much since their country is being destroyed.
lol
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>>320132745
>Can't blame Sweden too much since their country is being destroyed.
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>>320132745
>>320132832
They're busy learning the quran, give them a break.
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Do people still play BF4?
Also how is hardline?
I skipped it because of BF4's terrible launch
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>>320117260
Dragon Valley just came out for download.
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>>320117260
it has some major flaws like

>spawn on squad
>unbalanced consolified vehicles
>neverending sprinting
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>>320133213
Hardline is DOA, Battlefront is rapidly shedding players, BF4 is still very populated.
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>>320133213
There's roughly 25-30k people on PC last time I checked. And don't bother with Hardline, it's practically dead.
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>>320133429
there are 85k people playing bf4 now across all platforms

there are 18k playing hardline across all platforms

there are 93k playing battlefront
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>>320133423
Hardline really is dead?
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>>320133423
Hardline is dead? That's sad. I liked the music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoZgZT4DGSY
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>>320134012
I didn't buy it personally, but I know that BF4 has more players than Hardline on all platforms and the reception of the game has been extremely poor.
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>>320132578
The stealth jet and attack helicopter are worthless in BF4 and nobody cares because the entire player base for Battlefield is on the same tier as COD now. At least in BF3 a good chopper team or jet pilot was actually scary, now they're just BAD
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>>320135138
>the entire player base for Battlefield is on the same tier as COD
they massively overlap with neo/v/
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>>320135138
Attack Helicopters can still do a great deal of damage. They just don't get away with murder like they did in BF3, actually requiring skill from both players inhabiting the vehicle.

Sorry that you actually have to try now to get some kills instead of being handed them on a silver platter like in BF3.
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>>320122939
damn nigga that is some hollywood shit
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>>320135138
>the entire player base for Battlefield is on the same tier as COD
Most of /v/'s first Battlefield was Bad Company 2008 on the Xbox360... COD kiddies
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>>320131792
>not THOSE successful indie projects
..
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BF3 > BF4
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>>320136071
>Liking "whoever shoots first deals with less RNG" - the game
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>>320135824
Nope.

>TV missle no longer a 1 hit kill on other helicopters/jets. Range was nerfed also
> Cannon spread is attrocious and damage is barely decent
> If there's a MAA on the other team then it's useless. The only map it's good on is Siege of Shanghai. That's it

I wouldn't say kills were handed to me on a Silveg platter in BF3, I had to die many times before I got Gud enough to start slaying. How is that unfair? Anyone can learn how to pilot a Helicopter/Jet except now there's literally no point to because they're so bad
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>>320136071
I still play BF3 to this day, the balance is so much better and the player base isn't quite as stupid
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>>320135138
I have a very different experience of the game so you're either bad and don't know how to handle aircraft or you're not playing on good servers.
I've ragequit plenty of matches because one jet pilot hogged it for the whole game and went 70-0.
As for helicopters you can't just get in it and kill shit, you need a coordinated team, transports need repair tools and gunners otherwise they're just great big flying coffins, and attacks need a nose gunner. Littlebirds can be pretty OP and you can fly those on your own.

I think bombers need to do a lot more ground damage though, JDAM is very hard to unlock.
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>>320117260
This is shilling if I've ever seen it, jesus christ
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It took three years to actually make it okay, and they still did some shit absolutely retarded.

Like the entire ability to change your HUD Icons and whatnot, nice, but done in the most retarded way possible, can't even preview half the changes unless the icons happen to be on your HUD already.
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>>320117703
>>320118178
Project reality/SQUAD.

also does it better too DESU
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>>320123439
I think the longest I ever waited when I had BF4 on my HDD instead of SSD was about 30 seconds. SSD was almost instant.
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>>320136000
Let me just pull some random statistics out my ass too.
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>>320136713
I had over 10,000 kills in BF3 for both Jets and Attack Helicopters. I can say with honesty that I'm probably better at dogfighting/using a TV missle than you are. However both of those are obsolete now because the damage output is laughably reduced in BF4. They even nerfed the Attack Jet against ground targets AND air targets. It makes 0 sense
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>>320136550
>MAA isn't supposed to counter muh aircraft!
>Implying the TV missile nerf wasn't necessary on both boats and helicopters
>Can't get good at aiming and blames the game

Sounds like a typical airbaby.
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enjoy servers with too many rules lol
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>>320137134
I guess I wouldn't get far in a formal debate, but come on... they certainly didn't play BF2. BF didn't really take off for these casuals until DICE churned out Bad Company on the 360 for the Generation Z audience.
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I need a goddam app that notifies me when premium goes on sale on the PSN store, I play the shit out of this game, only game from EA that I like.
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>>320117260
I really REALLY loved battlefield 4, its the only reason origin is not uninstalled yet. So fucking damn good.
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>>320120537
Karkand doesn't work with the improved draw distance, it was a clusterfuck in BF3 DLC, unless DICE added fog or redesigned the map to accommodate the new sightlines, the map was clearly built with the restrictions of the old Refractor engine in mind.
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>>320136000
>>320137418
>There's never any proper criticism for BC2
>Just that it isn't BF2
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>>320137348
In BF3 the MAA was just as deadly except it didn't have the cancerously OP active radar missles. Stingers were also a 1 hit disable to all air vehicles. On top of that you had to deal with jet pilots and chopper crews that actually knew what they were doing. There's a difference between a skill gap and an intentional nerf that makes everything worse
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>>320138107
>Bawwww I can't use cover, distance, or flares/jammers!

Yup, airbaby confirmed. Active Radar is hardly the real threat behind the MAA.
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>>320138020
DICE dialed down Battlefield well with BC. Makes Battlefront 2015's fuckup even more mind boggling ;_;
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Ended up getting it the other day because I was interested

I've got no one to play with though, and I saw the the battlefield general on /vg/ died
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>>320123123
You don't have to do that though
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>>320132745
The main devs of Battlefront has already quitted it to start working on Battlefield 5
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>Take the bait and buy premium
>Only vanilla maps show up
>Spent 20 dollars on maps that are inaccessable due to no players
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>>320137909
Isn't it more because everyone on BF2 played infantry only on the small Karkand?
BF3 used the slightly larger Karkand and vehicles
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>>320139259
You're not using the default server browser settings are you?
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>>320139259
>Having shitty server filters and blaming it on the game

There's tons of frequently active premium map hosted servers.
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>>320136863
This

A thousand times this
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just wait for the next one its only a year away

i want a new ww2 battlefield ww2 has been left alone long enough now that modern combat is getting to much the cycle continues
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>>320138530
What cover, most of the maps in this game have clear sight lines on the sky from the ground and a level elevation. Also are you referring to the ECM jammer that either works or gas the missles spin around you like a Ferris wheel before slamming you into the ground with a totally balanced "mobility hit". Get the fucc outta here. The MAA accomplishes what the Stealth Jets role is supposed to be (Anti air), except it does this way better. How is it unreasonable to ask that rocket pods be put on the Stealth Jets so they can actually kill something. The Attack Jet and Attack Helicopter (Which are supposed to be close air support) sure need it since the AJ's air to ground power was nerfed and the AH gets ripped to shreds as long as it's within range of the MAA. And oh if you take cover/fly low, expect someone to RPG the shit out of you (Before the SRAW nerf do you know how regular it was to get 1 hit killed while trying to avoid both stingers and the MAA? AH has so much going against it and only limited means to kill people. It's sad, of course you wouldn't care cus ur a casual
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>>320139783
I'd rather enjoy a functional game cheaply for a year than buy another BF at launch. It's gonna be 2143 btw.
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>>320139784
>You're the casual
>I'm the only one whining about shit because I can't get good, but you're the casual!

OK baby. Go back to BF3 then.
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>>320139783
I want a new Battlefield Vietnam with an incredible campaign
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>>320139140
Of course they have. Quality has no place in today's industry.
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Does it go on sale often?

I've held off for so long because I'm scared the game is still working kinks out, but there's hardly any servers on BF3 anymore. But that's ok. I never get tired of Operation Firestorm.
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>>320139784
they nerfed rpgs and smaws as well, they no longer 1 shot any helicopter, which is bullshit
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>>320140151
Premium edition is on sale for 30 (base game + all dlc).

I think the lowest it's been was 25 on Black Friday. Not sure if it'll go cheaper during Holidays or not.
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>>320140151
It's on sale right now, 50% off

I still want to find some people to play with though
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>>320139476
>>320139518
Fuck i am.

What should I do?"
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>>320139981
I have BF3 installed while BF4 isn't so I got that covered. Infantry isn't as boring and Rush isn't broken either.
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What's your chopper music? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKoZMke594A
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BF4 was my shit OP

definitely jumping back in after I'm done with MGSV and XENOBLADE Chronicles X
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BF3 was the better game of the two
better maps
better class gadget balance
vehicles were a legitimate threat ( attack heli nerf was needed though think it got it eventually )
stronger community with clans and servers
medic train was all that needed to be addressed defib mechanics like they are in 4 would have worked
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>>320140304
They did the same thing with the Tank shell because, "That's not its intended role", aka we don't want you to get good with a certain weapon otherwise out casual horde will complain so we must appease them instead of letting them learn how to counter it
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>>320141049
Yeah but keep in mind this is a videogame, it's not ARMA 3, it's supposed to have some balance between different classes.
You shouldn't be able to just get in a tank and shit on everyone.
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Do people still play on PS4?
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>>320141285
yes
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>>320140340

add me if you buy it and you're in north america

fistoblitzkrieg

i almost always play solo and it's starting to get boring

>>320140474
you can set to filter only for dlc
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>>320141179
The class system in BF4 is already fucked, you can use a DMR or Carbine on any class. It's not like you'd be shooting down air vehicles while engaging infantry because all it takes is a couple RPGs or C4 to kill you. Plus the angle of your gun can only go so high. But if you have the opening to one shot a heli/jet how is that unfair considering the heli/jet will "usually" shit on you
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>>320141529
already bought it the other day.
I added you although I'm in europe, though I tend to stay up pretty late, even more so on weekends

If anyone wants to add me, I'm ObscuryT
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>>320141285
http://bf4stats.com/

It's really close to the PC population.
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>>320140654
WITH A REBEL YELL
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>>320141529
>you can set to filter only for dlc
I did and it still won't display any maps.
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>>320141949

australian?
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I am SICK of chucklefucks thinking helicopters are their personal transport that they can just crash when they get to their destination GOD DAMN
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>>320140654
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MI0a9hTh5AU

>matches the timeline
>kinda matches the story once you know the twist
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>>320120537
yeah the lack of karkand is fucking garbage
good thing we're getting dragon valley though, so that's nice
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>>320142013
American.
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>>320120980

Rainbow Six: Siege has no aim assist in multiplayer on consoles.
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what happened to the bf4 threads on /vg/?
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>>320121172
dice sweden made battlefront
dice sweden initially made bf4 then handed it over to dice la
at least give it a fucking chance
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>>320142025
I do this literally whenever there is a helicopter free
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>>320121742

It has an in-game server browser on PS4, and the complete game with all expansions was on sale for $18 a little while ago.
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>>320142218
DED
E
D

they have their own platoons/steam groups
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>>320128019
>dayz
>successful
wew lad
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>>320142213

You're doing something wrong, just favorite these

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/09b57201-428d-4f0e-9f43-64b6d3d2a840/CONQUEST-ALL-BF4-MAPS-STATS-NO-LAG-TBGclan-com/

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/servers/show/pc/fa85f6ab-5fb4-4107-a69f-d64b84e503fb/DOG-24-7-Best-Of-BF4-VOTEMAP/
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>>320129595
jet pilot here
i dont typically shit on infantry but the only time i do is to harass tanks/joops
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>>320131562
wait, they added dedicated servers instead of making you have to rent them?
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>>320142770
also how do some of you get ridiculous 90-0 kds? is it because no one is challenging you from the other team? that would be my guess
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>>320132745
>Can't blame Sweden too much since their country is being destroyed
top kek
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>>320133213
yep
the BF4 community on PC is actually larger than hardline's at the moment
hardline is shit, dont even try to play it
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>>320117260
Will Premium Edition go cheaper than 25€ during xmas sales? Does Origin even have xmas sales?
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>>320142971

Because countermeasures are 100% effective if you know what you're doing so all you have to do is fly off map and wait for them to regen. Only real threat would be an enemy jet but you could still fly back to base. You're not really helping your team much but you should manage a sick k/d
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>>320120006
It's free for one week on Origin right now. Click on "Try it out with Game Time!"
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>>320135138
>stealth jet and attack helicopter are worthless in BF4
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>>320142971
yep, the only real way for us to be challenged if the MAA or pilots are competent
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i still have no idea how some jet fags can turn on a dime shoot you down instantly then go back to picking of infantry with laser accuracy being aware of your location on the ground always
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>>320135138
>playerbase for BF is same tier as CoD
>But muh BF3
Yep, and you are one of those kiddies.

I rarely play BF4, but the attack Chopper is far from useless. The Stealth jet is pretty garb though.
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It's good, but I can't stand vehicles anymore so I only play infantry centric maps.

Tanks and scout helis are just too annoying.
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>>320139335
>Slightly larger
BF3 version cut about a quarter of the map out.
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Does BF4 have dynamic weather? I was playing a game on Paracel Storm and the it just started raining and shit. I'm trying the game out, haven't bought it yet, so that's why I'm asking.
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>>320144134
Protip: bind your pitch axis to a button as well as the mouse.
I have mine bound to space, so if I need to execute a tight turn I can just hold the button down rather than needing to use the mouse and it will turn as tight as is possible.

>>320144752
Only on certain maps, they're more stage hazards than weather.
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>>320144752
Yes and no. It's part of the levolution, some maps have weather changes. For example Gulf of Oman has a sandstorm, Paracel has a storm, Operation Whiteout has a snow storm, etc.
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yeah how do these jetfags always know where you are even if you are running around always behind cover AND supressed
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>>320145193
Minimap? 3D Spotting?
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>>320144694
Yeah but in BF2 people only played the small version with infantry only
Not the large one
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>>320137008
You're so full of shit your eyes are turning brown.
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>>320145270
No? Have you even touched BF2?
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>>320145348
Sorry I don't buy 5400RPM drives meant for saving energy.
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>>320145193
Proximity Scan, and team spotting.
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>>320145368
Yes and that's why I know.
BF3 and 4 are filled with Metro servers while BF2 were filled with Karkand small servers
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>>320141285
I do
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>>320123439
>he doesn't know you can change servers mid-game to skip the loading
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>>320120797
Someone needs to get good :^).
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>>320145441
the times i got shot when just running from point to point in no mans land was by jets or havocs 80% of the time. very rarely its infantry who sees me .
also how the fuck does prox scan work on jets
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>>320144752
Kind of.

Dawnbreaker goes from night to sunrise, Paracel has a storm, Oman has a sandstorm, Whiteout has on and off blizzards that obscure view, but that's it for weather/time changes.

There are some night versions of maps as well though.
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>>320124512
Nothing more satisfying than taking out a chopper with a dumb rocket.
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>>320145589
Actually, team plays a huge part in winning or losing. One single player can't carry a team unless it's like 6v6 or something.
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>>320145193
Forget it man Infantry-Only Rush is where it's at.

>>320145606
The way spotting works in BF4 if one guy has seen you and tagged you, everyone can see you on the minimap.
For example I use a carbine with a tool that auto-spots anything in the reticle and I just spam that constantly.
I can spot you without really paying much attention from half way across the map then any jets overhead will instantly see you on their minimap.

Prox scan just spots shit in a radius around the jet.
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Fuck

Now I have to install this shit again
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>spawn
>die to havoc gunner hovering in spawn
>spawn
>die to havoc gunner AGAIN
>leave

wow fun game DICEtards
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>>320135138
The attack helicopter is still ridiculously good. You just need a competent gunner which is way beyond 99.9% of any FPS community.
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>>320145760
No shit. Step up and be a good squad leader. Most players I've encountered are more than happy to squad up and PTFO.
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>>320145741
This. Screw lock ons. Feels way more satisfying to fire and forget someone's ass out of the air.
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Who pearl market here
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>>320146079
I always add people to my friends when they play cooperative/use squad chat
that game when you solo and get a bunch of randoms all in your squad PTFO, end up winning with all five of us on top of scoreboard
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>>320146317
fuck that map
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>>320133213
If you like the infantry part of battlefield a whole lot, then hardline is pretty good. Vehicle wise it lacks since it's mostly just transport. Population is decent on ps4. Just the base game.
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Yeah, it's pretty good.
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>>320117260

OF COURSE IT'S GOOD, THEY HAD 2,5 YEARS AFTER LAUNCH TO MAKE IT GOOD. SO OF COURSE
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It's just a newer BF3, which I'd rather play instead. Since I already own it.

If I was to buy BF4, it'd just be for the community. And we all know that's not really worth it.
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Fuck the Japanese and South Americans
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How is hardline compared to BF4? I was gonna buy Hardline but BF4 was cheaper.
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>>320145443
The small map was played just about the same as the standard one.
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>>320146517
Hotwire was fun for like two days but other than that I feel like BF4 does everything better than Hardline.
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So do you guys play Hardcore or no?
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WHY IS THERE SO MANY LATIN AMERICANS, RUSSIANS AND JAPANESE PLAYING THIS GAME???
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>>320146749
you mean the !punish simulator?
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>>320144663
You would love hardline then.
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>>320146486
Fucking Brazilians I swear
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sorry /bfg/ I've moved onto CSGO
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>>320146814
That's all there's going to be now. Every server is infected with spics.
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>>320146749
It's fun but I hate when teammates can tell the difference between friendlies and enemies. Especially tank and shotgun babies.
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I just want Dragon Valley to come out so I can play it, get bored of it, and move on.
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>>320147283
Tonight
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SMAW or RPG?
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>>320146749
best mode is classic mode
all it needs is to remove the third person lock on vehicles, because dog fighting in first person is a dizzying experience without being able to free look and maneuver at the same time.
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Lancang Dam is the best map, wouldn't you agree? Defending Charlie is primo.
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>>320146396
Well, so now it's good then.
One more reason to never buy games at launch and to wait until they are available as a discounted premium package.
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How big is the download off Origin for BF4?
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>>320146517
Is it worth 15 loonies? That's what it's going for in Best Buy right now.
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>>320141796
>>320141529
North America here; added you guys and anyone else feel free to add me; Sp1inter_RU

Here's my advice to anyone interested in buying; buy premium edition key off of some third party site and redeem it through origin. Origin has a ton of shitty scammers and email phishers and I would recommend just not having a credit card connected to your account.

BF4 is fun as fuck and a really good ass game to play while listening to music
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>>320147478
SMAW
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>>320147846
depends how much DLC you have/installed
at the moment with all of it my install is 60 GB. which is a fucking lot.
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I hate this Michael Bay bullshit the series turned into. It's like DICE stopped giving a shit about authenticity after Bad Company 1.
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>>320147846
Something like 30 gigs + dlc.
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>>320148006
How can you coordinate with your squad to ptfo when you're listening to music?
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>>320148192
I've never played on a server where anyone was talking, I'd like to talk and coordinate, but I never have in BF4. If I want a really fucking tactical sim Ill play project reality
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>>320147920
Heard it's pretty dead.
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Has Premium Edition ever been cheaper than 25€?
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Is it worth buying right now or not you fucking artists?

Answer me! Kuzooooooooo!
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>>320141529
>>320140340
if you guys want to gift it to me ill play with you

my 7 days of game time ran out and im on unemployment/broke
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Anyone here play BF4 with TinyWall? What process do you have to whitelist for Origin to connect properly? I have Origin.exe, plugincontainer.exe, bf4webhelper.exe and bf4.exe whitelisted but if I have TinyWall activated Origin still gives me an error saying it wasn't possible to validade my account.
If I turn it off it works though.
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>>320147478
Depends.
SMAW has slightly less damage, but less drop and therefore a much farther effective range.
RPG has more damage but the drop gets heavy, making it better for short use.
Also SMAW looks cooler.
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