So, /v/, what will it be?
Laser or Plasma?
Automatic plasma rifle with insane recoil of course, no question
>>320098639
Stupid pipe pistol concept was terrible. Left handed bolt action was stupid too.
Plasma caster please
>>320098825
>Pipe weapons
Why in fuck sakes did they actually make this a thing...
>>320098954
Its a fine concept for crafting but everyone having them and them being in pre war chests was dumb.
The art direction in FO4 really is lame.
Shame to since touted the revamped shooting system. Also the institute weapons and some other weapons take up 1/4 of the screen in 1st person. The whole game really JUST WORKS.
>>320098639
Lasers, because Bethesda plasma weapons look fucking atrocious. Lasers at least look passable.
>>320098639
Hey guard outside of The Silver Rush, I prefer lead.
>eweanyourfrenzerdead
Trying to kill my drunkfu
>>320098639
>Mfw no plasma heavy weapons in fallout 4
>>320098639
That's not a laser rifle. This is a laser rifle.
>>320099342
Actually one of the guns and bullets magazines shows that they're actually pre-war weapons. Probably made and used by various criminal elements.
>>320098639
Neither.
Energy weapons are shit.
>no turbo plasma rifle in fo4
how can todd fuck up over and over again like this?
>>320098639
One gun in each caliber in the game is how I go.
>>320100174
melee is shit too in fo4 what the fuck is bethesdas problem
So /v/, what will it be? Join! Die! Join! Die!
>>320100109
Looks more like a pretend-toy for kids than a real weapon of any description.
I'm afraid of ash and goo piles never despawning, I'll stick with combat rifles.
>finding 20+ bottlecaps each inside newpaper bins, trashcans, and drawers
>in areas that haven't been touched since the nukes dropped
What the fuck man
Immersion ruined
GAUSS
>>320100315
Hmmm Die please :D
>>320100048
The energy weapons in F3, NV and F4 look dingy as fuck. The design is garbage. Wattz 2000 and Winchester P94 is where it's at.
Fucking plebs.
>>320100109
I don't see how that looks any better.
Also, fuck the incredibly limited number of character sprites in Fallout 1/2 that made it so the gun your character was holding looked nothing like what he was actually holding.
>>320100432
The plasma caster from NV is the Winchester P94
>>320100343
doesnt matter bodies fall through the map anyways. happened to me twice with legendary deathclaws.
>>320100343
Open up console and disable them.
It's also how I get rid of unwanted bodies in general.
>>320100351
Bottlceaps weren't currency then. The more immersion breaking thing is finding pre-war money in places where it doesn't belong.
>>320100343
Why the fuck hasn't Bethesda fixed this?!?!?
>>320100351
>>320100351
>>320100351
This bugged me so much
>>320100684
When was the last time you saw 20+ bottle caps anywhere outside of a store, alcoholic's house, or brewery?
Pretty sure 75% of the containers I see on a given day are NOT filled with 10-30 bottlecaps.
>>320100729
>>320100351
>finding pipe sniper rifles in pre-war safes in office buildings
>>320100174
Are you a big iron brother like me?
Revolvers are the only gun for me.
>>320100109
>laser rifle with a long barrel
You don't need a barrel for a laser. It's not like there's a projectile or something. A light emitting source and a lens is all you need.
>>320100684
so much immersion breaking at bethesda.
IT JUST WORKS
the gun art direction is really shitty in fo4. Hopefully the dlc fixes that shit.
The laser rifle looks cooler
>>320100879
You realize that in Fallout they never stopped using glass bottles for their sodas right?
Of course you don't see many caps now a days because everything is in plastic bottles you fucking moron.
>>320100978
this senpai
you'd think that something being secure and unpicked for 60 years would basically be a snapshot of life before the nukes
but no
here's 75 bottlecaps, a bunch of random ammo, and some weird guns, PLUS some pre-war money for no reason at all
>>320100879
In a highly popula area such as Boston, it's not that absurd.
>>320098639
Gauss rifle
>"Finding X in pre-war safes"
why do people complain about this? it's been a little over 200 years, i'm sure somebody was able to pick the lock and store shit in there before you came around.
>>320100993
the revolvers choice was nicer in NV
IN fo4 its shit and they still have you shooting single action only with dbl action revolvers.
>>320101129
You're awfully quick to start calling people names, that's a sign of poor intelligence.
The point still stands - in any given building, most searchable containers don't contain nearly as many bottle caps (metal or otherwise) as they do in the game. It's just poor game design, no need to suck a dick over it.
>>320101171
>PLUS some pre-war money for no reason at all
out of all of that, the pre-war money makes the most sense and maybe even the ammo since offices had reason to be strapped.
>>320100389
2GAUSS
How fucked will I be if my computer fulfills the minimum requirements for running this game EXCEPT for VRAM? (requires 2GB, have 1.6GB)
Will it just straight up not run or just be really shitty and only playable at the barest of minimum settings?
>>320101051
Maybe cheaper to use a series of "weak" lenses than a singular, high-intensity one? I don't know enough about lasers to refute it.
>>320100284
Wot? Melee is OP as fuck. Stun-superslege or world series 2076 baseball bat+drugs make you a killing machine
>>320101252
I miss Lucky and the Ranger Sequoia...
The .44 in FO4 isn't too bad, but yeah, it's horribly slow.
I miss the weapon variety of NV. Sure, there are more mods in 4, but they don't sufficiently change the function of the weapon.
>>320101421
You'll get frame drops, constantly. You'll need to lower your resolution and overall graphics settings.
>>320101421
It'll be fine, but enjoy your long loading screens every time you
>boot up the game
>open a door to a new area
>move across the landscape and enter a new sector
Hope you don't give a single shit about muh frames, either. You'll be able to 'play' the game, though, i guess.
>>320101556
I got a legendary 44. that reloads and fires faster. Brings a tear to the eye.
>>320101581
Isn't there a mod that makes the graphics hella shitty so it runs better on toasters?
>>320100389
>>320101398
I was blind for so long, then I tried it out and it obliterated a deathclaw.
Thank you based Gauss
>>320101285
>The point still stands - in any given building, most searchable containers don't contain nearly as many bottle caps (metal or otherwise) as they do in the game.
Not him, but you're arguing basic video game resource distribution in comparison to reality.
I doubt I'll find guns in most alley ways or soda machines that work without cash.
Is it poor design? I'm not so quick to think it is, but if you find it to be an issue, that okay too.
>>320101556
I am high fiving you brother. Taking away the ammo system was annoying too. Revamp the shooting mechanic and have a shittier art vision towards the guns in the game.
>>320101424
You don't need a lens for lasers unless you want to combine multiple sources of the same wavelength into one beam.
![latest[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/sURif62.gif "latest[1].gif")
Now that I think about it, it's weird there are no lascannons in Fallout
>>320101652
For New Vegas? Yeah there is. Not for Fo4 yet though. You gotta upgrade Anon. I had 8GB of VRAM back in 2014.
>>320101834
>it's weird there are no lascannons in Fallout
Plasma met that role I'm guessing.
>laser muskets
while having perfectly good rechargers.
what were they thinking?
>>320101834
Closest thing would be the tri-barrel charging gatling-laser. Lascannon batteries are only good for one shot if I remember my lore correctly, too, so there's that.
Plasma is objectively better and has no downsides whatsoever compared to laser, so plasma even though I think they're uglier.
>>320101647
What did you name that beauty?
>>320101834
You what?
>>320101738
The more complex lens elements, the more you can manipulate the laser beam. You can concentrate it, filter out noise etc.
So yeah, having a longer barrel with complex elements in it can have benefits.
>>320101834
Tesla Cannons?
>>320101989
Not a laser. It's a technically speaking a plasma cannon (lightning).
>>320100515
this shit right here. I'm playing through fallout 2 as a 'shoot your fucking eye out' sniper, and the shotgun hipfire animation sucks ass.
>>320101917
yeah but it's not the same
>>320101989
you're right. too bad it doesn't have a sweet-ass red laser
>>320100879
That scrounger perk that allows you to find more bottle apps in places will get you at least 10-15 caps in basically 90% of containers
>>320101987
"Sequoias Sister". Fitting, isnt it?
>>320101421
You'll experience mass drops in frame rate the larger your save files get. Specifically, Camp McCarran, The Fort, Freeside, Nellie Air Force Base, and of course The Strip.
>>320100284
>legendary bloat fly hovering just out of reach and vomiting all over me
>>320102131
Magnificent
You be sure to treat her right and do good by her.
>>320102318
Always. You treat her right, she treats you right.
>>320101398
>that 943 damage
Because gauss rifles aren't op in Fallout 4 at all
>>320102286
>vomiting
*Injecting you with larvae filled barbs
>>320102457
It would be if its bullets weren't 20 caps each...
Why are energy weapons so lame in fo4 low DPS rare as fuck ammo for plasma rifles it escapes me why any one would use them
>>320102082
>>320100515
Download the restoration patch, it has way more player weapon sprites.
>>320102932
im sure it will all be balanced out once the DLCs come out and its Goty edition in a year or two
>>320101398
Why does a Gauss Rifle need a suppressor? Why is the Suppressor so fucking big?
I've only seen one person use a plasma weapon in my fallout 4 playthrough, why are they so rare now?
>>320102457
You think that's OP? THIS is OP. Gauss rifles are useless against more than two enemies and at short range.
>>320103325
IT JUST WORKS
>>320103362
Gotta hype up that pipe pistol son
>>320101451
The actual melee weapons are shit, but the perks makes melee and unarmed builds op as fuck.
>>320103404
>122
how the fuck
>>320103325
>>320103431
That 2mm penetrator travels at around Mach 7, so fast it actually ionizes the air around it into plasma.
You need a massive baffle system to muffle the sound.
Even then, it still makes a loud as fuck sound when it goes super sonic and finally impacts.
>>320103523
>Demolition Expert
>Heavy Gunner
>Bloody Mess
>United We Stand
Perk up mang.
>>320103404
thats sick
but what does tri barrel do? like really why would it actually effect the gun in any way beyond idk being more sturdy
>>320103607
That's pretty interesting. I feel like I need to visit /k/ more so I can actually understand how some of this shit works.
>>320103717
Longer triple barrels means it's a got a tighter spread, at the cost fire rate (versus 6 barrels). I can essentially snipe with it.
>>320103870
It's more like a sound suppressor than an actual silencer, because the projectile is obviously super sonic (has a sonic boom/crack).
A conventional rifle round usually is just around Mach 1 rather than Mach 7 that real life rail guns do.
didnt wanna start my own thread to post this but
how the hell do you save kent connoly?
the moment I enter the building i hear gunshots then literally 2 sec in and he's dead
>>320100432
I agree completely. Pic related, the thing looks like a fucking hair dryer.
It's a symptom of Bethesda's "Those wacky 1950s!" design philosophy.
>>320104096
Threaten the cronies into attacking you first or just use jet and a powerful single-shot-kill gun (ie >>320101398) weapon.
>>320103884
i was meaning like....Practically,realistically , not gamewise. Though in retrospect that probably is the reasoning for tri barrels...idk ima look it up
>>320101696
Switching between different ammo types is definitely much better than finding guns with fucking enchantments on them. Certainly makes more sense, too.
>>320098639
Laser weapons because they look the least ugly out of the rest.
>mfw combat rifle doesn't have pistol grip
>the assault rifle
>>320104236
no i cant even get to that part of the mission
the moment i go in the hospital i hear gunshots and then 2 sec and hes dead
i cant even get to the elevator before he dies
>>320104325
the only good thing about fo4 is me waiting now to see how much they'll fuck up the next TES.
>oh we brought back layered armor but not in elder scrolls.
will be hilarious.
>>320104249
Essentially the same thing in real life. Longer and barrels mean higher muzzle velocity (faster projectile, flatter trajectory etc.) but at the cost of being unwieldy as fuck and heavier.
The triangle attachment helps to stabilize the barrels since prolonged shooting will heat it up and warp them (making it less effective and accurate).
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/cVyvxYF.jpg "latest[1].png")
>>320100432
don't forget Glock
>>320104395
JET.
>melee, fist, and heavy weapons don't have mods, just upgrades
>>320098639
Plasma served me really well in New Vegas but i have to admit the laser rifles look and feel really cool.
>>320101398
Automatic gauss weapons fucking WHEN?!
>>320101652
Actually yes there is. There are 3 on nexusmods right now
>laser rifle
>sleek design and hits instantly
>plasma rifle
>overdesigned piece of shit
>slow bullet travel time
>>320100879
Maybe someone drank a lot of nuka cola?
>>320104554
never enjoy more pipe pistols.
>tfw the weapon customization is mostly straight upgrades that mostly look like shit
The shishkebab only has one for fucks sake
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/wzQeJ5U.png "latest[1].png")
Turbo Plasma, every day.
>>320104767
really is disappointing .
>>320098639
Laser.
Plasma is shit past close range.
>>320104167
But that's an obsidian weapon.
>>320104767
But hey how about that 50s aesthetic!
>>320104513
YEAH WTF IS THAT SHIT
>>320104554
>>320104723
NOW.
>>320101171
What pisses me off to no end is how much theyve screwed the loot system even more. Why is it acceptable to find better/ the same loot in a novice locked container than what I find in a master lock?!
>>320104167
That design is good though. They took the AER9 Rifle from Fallout 3 and made it look like a proper weapon instead of an improvised piece of junk.
>>320105270
to "streamline" it.
Are you questioning todd?
>>320098639
Any turok player would pick for plasma rifle.
>>320103362
You didn't get to a very high level then, high level gunners love plasma weapons.
>>320104609
Actually in Fallout 4 plasma weapons are hitscan too.
>>320098954
They wanted it to appear to be more related to the older games than Fallout 3, but they really just become scrap material.
>>320104249
In real life that model of tri-barreled rotary gun is called a GCAL .50, and it fires .50 BMG instead of 7.62.
I feel like Bethesda just saw one and figured 3 barrels is just more hardcore just because.
>>320100993
that's a big iron
for you
>>320105282
I hated that laser rifle too. I think all the energy weapon designs are ugly, and it's always one of the first things I change with mods.
>>320104907
Yeah, fair enough. It still looks like a hair dryer. I don't know whether Obsidian felt like they had to stay consistent with FO3's aesthetic or if they really wanted their weapons to look like that, but either way, I still don't like it.
>>320107085
This.
I'm pretty sure modern Bethesda just operates on the rule of cool when it comes to weapon and armor design choices Just compare the swords from Morrowind to the swords from Skyrim.
What happened to them /v/?
>>320107419
nothing cool about left handed bolt guns or "laser muskets"
>>320107419
but most of the weapon and armor "designs" in 4 suck ass
>>320100389
>>320107496
>>320107517
Well, what's cool is subjective and I'm sure that Bethesda is quite enamored with their design choices, no matter how shitty they are.
>320107419
>Just compare the swords from Morrowind to the swords from Skyrim.
I don't understand how they could go from proper looking fantasy long swords to giant canoe paddles. Whoever is in charge of weapon design needs to be replaced
>>320098639
laser
plasma guns and projectiles are unaesthetic
>>320107958
Needs to be replaced pronto with a kick in the butt.
>>320104767
>weapon customization
There really is no reason to go melee in this game. At all.
>melee weapons have 1-3 upgrades at most (apart from the baseball bat)
>melee is very shallow; normal attack, unwiedly power attack that is easily interrupted
>enemies can block attacks from stuff like super sledge with just a knife
>melee weapon all function the same way, no real differentiation effects like ranged weapons have
Meanwhile ranged gets stuff like Alien Blaster, Syringer, Railway, Rocket, Fat Man, Flamer, Minigun, Broadsider, Laser, Plasma, Gauss, Cryolator, Gatling laser, Lorenzo's Artifact.
>>320108341
well they did mention a lot of the "revamped" shooting system. They were very proud of it.
I want explosives and grenades launchers. The melee/grenade in one button is stupid as fuck and i hope who ever decided that has massive diarrhea for eternity.
>>320100109
>>320101051
>>320101424
never-played-classic-fallout detected.
it's ported from a sniper rifle.
>>320108986
That makes even less sense.
>>320109150
play some Fallout 1, 2, tactics and then maybe your opinion would be worth something.
>>320109587
I played all of those games and the Fallout 1 sniper rifle and laser rifle are still looking like shit
>>320103404
I found an explosive 10mm pistol and that already made the game piss easy on survival.
>>320101421
>>320101652
Using ENBoost allows you to allocate your ram to vram while the game is running. Vivid Fallout, Faraway Area Reform and Optimized Vanilla Textures help increase fps some.
>>320099342
> take up 1/4 of the screen in 1st person
I fixed my FOV before even starting to play the game. When I see others play it fucking hurts to look at.
>>320098817
Fucking lel at that image
>>320105070
>>320101398
>>320100389
how the fuck do you get gauss weapons?
i only found one when i was at lvl 40+ late game.
>>320108443
But surprise grenades are the best grenades.
Holorifle is the GOAT
>>320112169
The Railroad (Tinker Tom), BoS (Proctor Teagan) and Minutemen (Ronnie Shaw) sells em. By the time you get to the Institute, they should sell em too.
I'm also pretty sure that Diamond City sells them too.
>>320098639
Plasma looks like the kind of weapon that would literally blow up in your face due to malfuctions, very likely considering the setting.
What's the worst that could happen with a laser weapon here ? Overheating and you getting some slight burns on your hands ?
I'll take safety over power.
>>320113205
>Plasma looks like the kind of weapon that would literally blow up in your face due to malfuctions
Welcome to Warhammer 40k
>>320113205
Plasma rifles were still pretty much experimental pre-war, hence the whole not being aesthetically pleasing.
>>320113205
Battery exploding
Superhot gasses leaking
Basically the same thing as a plasma rifle
>>320113559
That's how I always thought they looked: like prototypes, or even just proofs-of-concept. Of course, it doesn't make sense that the Enclave is still using those relics when they also have power armor they developed *after* the war. You'd think they'd have developed better plasma rifles at the same time. There's also that plasma rifle you get from A3-21. That rifle presumably came from the Institute, which has teleportation and androids that look like humans. Yet it still uses that ugly prototype-looking model.
>Roll sneaky sniper
>Find early game a little tough
>Walk too far in one direction and the higher level mutants and ferals fuck your shit up
>Ammunition is hard as fuck to find
>Dont feel like buying things because I'm crapping it all for materials
>Get a few levels, find a 2 shot hunting rifle
>Get the sandman perk, silence sniper
>One shot everything
>Spend materials on water fabricators, never run out of caps
>Haven't needed to use power armor since the nigger cowboy mission with the deathclaw.
>Complete game
>No drive to play the game anymore
DLC when? I bought into that season pass, I've never bought a season pass but I was so sure I'd enjoy playing this game. I'm mildly pleased with it but I keep finding faults and it's detracting from the enjoyment.
>>320113834
>plays as stealth archer
>complaining about difficulty
Your fault alone.
>>320113919
It's not my fault it's the most fun class to play.
>>320098639
M72 Gauss Rifle or GTFO
>>320113740
You can also presume that A3-21's rifle is from the Enclave though. And the Enclave, having being repeatedly raeped back into oblivion, did not have the resources to developed Plasma Rifles beyond their current physical form.
It still shot and turned people into goo right? What's the point into wasting valuable resources into making it look pretty?
Those nerds at the Institute had all the resources and time to make everything look nice and neat so why their weapons actually look breddy kwel.
>>320113834
>>Haven't needed to use power armor
Look at the pleb with a lack of jetpack AND laugh at it!
>>320100131
Not just criminals. Most civilian guns were confiscated and destroyed before the war due to massive civil unrest. And with that unrest people still wanted a way to defend themselves so pipe weapons became a thing.
>>320098639
Why not both? If you have a power source small enough and powerful enough to create and fire plasma you can sure as hell power a laser.
>>320114336
There really isn't any reason for why the Player Character couldn't make a jetpack without PA.
In fact, there are already mods for just that.
>>320114476
>not being a SPEEESH MARINE
I bet you're a filthy race mixer too.
>>320100351
Well when you got no trash can around...
>>320098639
Bullets you fag
>>320114336
I hope there will be a mod to us those particule
The flames don't even come out of the turbines.
>>320114648
to fix*
fug.
>>320098639
Holo
I can't stand either. Nothing will ever feel as great as bullets do.
The only thing that even comes close to matching the satisfaction of something like a Colt Single Action Army is a railgun, which aren't exactly common in games.
>>320114747
They are common in Fallout games (except the first).
>>320103717
It's a nice weapon, I'll give you that. But the engraving doesn't give you any tactical advantage whatsoever. Nice collector's item though.
>>320114648
>The flames don't even come out of the turbines.
What.
It's pretty much implied that it's a form of super-heated-ionized-atmosphere-propellant. It uses fusion core reactions to excited gasses into become plasma for propulsion.
You don't need turbines for that, you ignorant wastelander.
Is this now a "guns you want to see in vidya" thread?
>>320114824
Doesn't change the fact that those particles are not aligned properly.
>>320114992
It only becomes flammable when the plasma interacts with the external atmosphere, so there's going to be a delay where the gasses comes out and when it ignites.
Think about what you post next time. Don't be so embarrassing.
>>320114809
>But the engraving doesn't give you any tactical advantage whatsoever.
Intimidation factor in a stand-off.
Guy could bring any old shotgun to a gunfight and he brings something worth more than everyone else's guns combined just for shits and giggles? That nigga don't give enough fucks to be scared of me, so I'm scared of him.
>>320115209
Look at the left exhaust and tell me it is aligned properly.
>>320115365
Read what you replied to. It happens in real life too.
>>320114228
I don't think there's any reason to believe his rifle is from the Enclave. He worked for the Institute, and they presumably gave him his equipment. I think it's far more likely that's where his rifle came from.
Also, am I really to believe the Enclave had the resources to develop and build Vertibirds and advanced power armor, but not make their plasma guns look like they'll snap apart if you drop them?
>>320115403
Reread my post m8.
I know that, but the particle isn't where it should be aka: a little to the left, it's not aligned properly.
Talk about embarrassing.
>>320114747
>The only thing that even comes close to matching the satisfaction of something like a Colt Single Action Army is a railgun, which aren't exactly common in games.
Well, it *is* the greatest handgun ever made. That's a tough act to follow.
>>320115675
Reloading in the middle of battle *is* pretty exciting...
>>320114747
>>320115675
>>320116026
That posted, FO4 is a shit game. Wait for it to be $5. It isn't a real RPG.
>>320100109
How do you even aim with this thing?
>>320115818
There's nothing like the feeling of slamming a long silver bullet into a well-greased chamber.
>>320115537
>ignoring real life physics
Talk about being an embarrassment.
>>320104609
Lasers are literally light, and thus travel as close to instantly as is possible.
Plasma is a mass of nuclei and electrons being tossed at some unfortunate, and thus can only travel at less-than-light speed, generally much less.
But, as has been noted, they just made them both hitscan weapons in fallout 4 so whatever
>>320117363
And laser rifles sound like regular rifles when they fire.
