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I'm still angry. I said if this game was bad, I'd
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I'm still angry.

I said if this game was bad, I'd kill myself. So why do I still live in pain knowing Metal Gear series is now dead and this was the final game and that everything we wanted explained was just clouded in more unexplained bullshit.
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Because you're a lying faggot?
But yes, I agree, game didn't answer much nor explain much of the existing lore, it was just tackling more unexplained nonsense for the sake of it being there..
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>>320078931
because you know that even if you tried to die, your burning desire for revenge against Kojima and Capcom would keep you at death's door. that is why you live.
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>>320078931
So the game truly left you off with A phantom pain?
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>>320079091
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it was supposed to touch on the period before Metal gear 1 (not MGS), and why there were 2 big bosses. But it pulls it off so terribly. Firstly, Gray Fox isn't even in the game. For some reason Child Mantis is in the game and does literally nothing but control others. That alone makes no sense. Controlling dead Volgin, again makes no sense. Quiet makes no sense and frankly shouldn't even be in the game. Millers story is not explained (or who kills him), Why Ocelot chooses to help the fake Big Boss, is never explained. Why Liquid steals the Pypetal metal gear is never explained, nor makes sense since in MGS1 he has the Metal gear REX which is NO WHERE NEAR as good as the one in MGSV was. Nothing is explained about Chico and Paz and their fates (one tape that goes for like 1 minute literally says they both died and thats it), and if anything the fake Medic Big Boss is complete bullshit. He not only does way more then the actual real Big Boss, but how the fuck did he obtain all his combat abilities and stuff just with mental manipulation and psychotherapy? They literally made clones of big boss AFTER this and they still weren't as good as just mentally mindfucking some random guy so he BECOMES more powerful than Big Boss
the game shouldn't exist. It explains nothing and creates more complex problems. "MUH PARASITES" was also bullshit
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OP is a fucking faggot.
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>>320080597
>Child Mantis is in the game and does literally nothing but control others
You didn't pay attention, it's the other way around

>Why Ocelot chooses to help the fake Big Boss
Because it's what big boss wanted

The other stuff, yeah it sucks.
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Game was pretty good
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>ever caring about Shitty Story Movie: The Pseudo Videogame
MGS has been shit from its beginning and you all know it.
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Why do people hate MGS4 again?

It's a great conclusion for solid's story, you know, the main character who gives the series its name.
Also the only nice guy in the metal gear universe apparently.
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>>320081387
The series always had great gameplay, fuck off.

In fact phantom pain STILL has great gameplay even if the story is bad.
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>>320078931
>being a storyfag
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>>320078931
metal gear always had a shit story only difference is that there isnt much of it in 5 so that's an improvement
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>>320081658

All the MG games have good gameplay, even MGS for the GBC has 10/10 gameplay.
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>>320080597
>Gray Fox isn't even in the game
One of the biggest disappointments for me personally besides not playing as the real Big Boss/Naked Snake himself

>For some reason Child Mantis is in the game and does literally nothing but control others
Other way around. Child Mantis lets other people control HIM, driven by feelings of revenge

>That alone makes no sense
It's ridiculous science fiction, but it does make sense given the context. Listen to the cassette tapes about Mantis. The cassette tapes manage to explain why Mantis is so susceptible to other people's feelings of revenge and also why Mantis isn't as powerful in MGS1. It's pretty impressive actually.

>Quiet makes no sense
Sounds like you need to pay more attention. Quiet definitely makes sense given the insane rules in the ridiculous world of Metal Gear.

>frankly shouldn't even be in the game
I can see how you feel that way. Even more so when you consider Quiet is completely optional except for Mission 45.

>Millers story is not explained
Yeah, more and more you show you didn't pay attention. The post-credits conversation between Ocelot and Miller highly implied that Ocelot is the one who kills Liquid before the events of MGS1.

> Ocelot chooses to help the fake Big Boss, is never explained
Because he's loyal to Big Boss. Big Boss wants Ocelot to help the fake Big Boss until Outer Heaven is complete. Pay attention.

>Why Liquid steals the Pypetal metal gear is never explained
Because he wants to take revenge on Big Boss and Cipher. Pay attention. You don't even need to watch the cut Misison 51 to understand this, but it does give more information.

>nor makes sense since in MGS1 he has the Metal gear REX which is NO WHERE NEAR as good as the one in MGSV was
Sahelanthropus was far from perfect. It looked badass and was designed to stand fully upright, yes, but it didn't fucking work. It could stand, but it couldn't walk. Skullface literally needed the psychic powers of Child Mantis to get it moving.
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>>320081658
Haha, good gameplay. Even Splinter Cell had surpassed it pretty early on.
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The franchise is a long string of Kojima scribbling wild bullshit and having characters just do shit so that he can get to cool set pieces.

Your misplaced love and obsession over nothing is amusing. It was a good game, just not the dumb fan wank you hoped it'd be.
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>>320081520
Anything dealing with Solid Snake was pretty good.

It shits on the other characters and backstory. Kojima turned into Jap George Lucas.
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>>320080597
>Nothing is explained about Chico and Paz and their fates (one tape that goes for like 1 minute literally says they both died and thats it)
You answered it yourself. That one cassette tape explains Chico's fate. Yes, it sucks that it's just one measly tape, but it explains it. Paz? Did you give her all the memento photos? Did you pay attention? The game tells you her fate.

>He not only does way more then the actual real Big Boss
Debatable. Naked Snake has MGS3, MGS:PO, MGS:PW, and MGS:GZ under his belt. Venom has all of MGSV:TPP under his belt which is impressive, but doesn't match up to the resume of the real Big Boss.

>how the fuck did he obtain all his combat abilities and stuff just with mental manipulation and psychotherapy?
Did you pay attention to the Truth records? Venom was the best soldier Big Boss had in MSF. Trained in stealth and CQC by the man himself. The mental manipulation and psychotherapy was more for making Venom believe he was the real Big Boss.

>They literally made clones of big boss AFTER this and they still weren't as good as just mentally mindfucking some random guy so he BECOMES more powerful than Big Boss
So I see that you have completely missed the entire point here. Also, they made the clones before Venom ever came into the picture.

>It explains nothing
Wrong, pay attention.

>creates more complex problems
This part is true

>"MUH PARASITES" was also bullshit
It's just this game's version of "MUH NANOMACHINES"
Also, pay attention. The tapes explain it.

I was bored enough to reply to your whole post, but really, the one thing you need to get from this is pay some fucking attention. People love to shit on MGSV for "lack of story" but they ignore the story that is there.
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>>320082173
>Ocelot is the one who kills Liquid
I fucked up. I meant to say Ocelot is the one who kills MILLER, presumably on the orders of LIQUID
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>>320078931
Why did you not expect something like this though? Kojima has long striven to disappoint his most ardent fans, he did it every time. So why this time did you expect anything different?

>As a creator, I always want to betray fans expectations
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>>320080597
It's said countless times that you, the medic, are his best soldier in the whole force, that's why Venom is A++ in everything. I can imagine Big Boss and Solid being S rank average at least, but Medic is still an extremely well rounded soldier.
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Problem is that the game itself was pretty good (mechanics) but the story was shit, and MSG is one of the few series where that matters.
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>>320078931

Cuz it's supposed to feel like a phantom pain :^)
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>>320080597
>why there were two big bosses
There nevere were two Big Bosses.
You beat his ass and call an air strike in MG1 and in MG2 you hear in a codec call that he survived and Madnar replaced most of his body with cybernetic enhanced.
It's also confirmed in the digital encyclopedia included with MGS4.
Kojima retconned shit for no reason at all.
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>>320082173
Also Sally was made of fucking paper so that it could even walk upright without falling flat on its ass.
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Mad Max and SC Blacklist do literally everything better than what TPP tried to do.
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>>320078931
>MGS V end of the series
Why does most of /v/ keep crying that this is the end of the series.

Metal gear SOLID
solid snake is the main character, mgs4 was the end of the series, mgs4 completed everything with liquid, zero, big boss, ocelot and snake.

Mgs v is just an addition to the story, NOTHING is finalized in mgs v

As far as I'm concerned mgs v was to show that venom was the bad guy of mg1 and mg2 and the true introduction/story of liquid, ocelot and Miller
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>>320083186
Exactly. And the reason the cockpit could only fit a small child was because if the head of Sally was any bigger, the entire mech's balance would be fucked up. Huey said they'd have to make Sally's head retardedly bigger to accommodate an adult pilot.
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>>320083882
>big ass robot can't even stand
>isn't even operational
>lets give it a fucking whip sword
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>>320084368
Yeah, and it needed shota Mantis for it to even use it.

Huey is a faggot and his son is better in every way aside from the hair.
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>>320083596
I played TPP before MM and holy fuck how much better the "empty open world" is in Mad Max.
Sand storms alone are better than anything shown in TPP.
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>>320081520

>Uses 'nanomachines' as an explanation for everything
>Not enough stealth gameplay after the first two chapters
>Bosses are bullet sponges and are the least interesting bosses in the franchise story wise
>Codec was gutted compared to the previous 3 games
>Those lengthy cutscenes on the plane inbetween chapters

I actually like 4. The gameplay one is what lets it down a bit for me. Like, the stealth in chapter 3 is all an escort mission which was kind of lame. The stealth in chapter 4 is against those little robots instead of guards which ruins it. Chapter 5 literally has about 5-10 minutes of sneaking at the start and that's it.
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