How come DDR is never discussed on /v/?
Because it's dead
dancing is for fags
>>320074842
its a 15 year old game played by people who actually went outside for fun
I'm actually going to dave n busters with some friends to play this.
Wish public pads were fucking garbage 90% of the time.
>>320075323
>its a 15 year old game
but we have countless of threads of ff7 and Oot and melee
Which DDR is best DDR?
I liked SuperNOVA the most.
>>320076401
any of them that had A, V, Burning Heat, Captain Jack, Drop the Bomb, Butterfly or any variation of the before mentioned.
What is there to discuss?
>>320075541
It's not like you can hear the music in a Dave n Busters
>>320077169
Every other place around me that has a metal pad, either sold off their machine or the pad is fucked up.
>>320074842
Because you have to leave your house to play it
>>320074842
It happens, but it usually sinks quickly.
I have a playlist of DDR songs when I exercise. They really pump me up.
Because DDR is dead
Bemani games as a whole are pretty dead but DDR is even dead within bemani communities
It's all about pretend DJ rectangle masher these days
>>320076401
in the groove
>no DDR for ps3
Why
>>320076401
PARANOIA
A
R
A
N
O
I
A
>>320075541
as far as I'm aware Dave and Busters only has PIU
>>320078525
I wouldn't say DDR is dead. But the only DDR that anyone cares about is 2013 white cab.
Now stepmania, that's pretty much dead.
becuz iidx is better
>>320074842
Because they casualized it by moving the core gameplay to a baby toy controller. That way you could still be a fatass and spend money endlessly on it. Opened the market wide open.
>>320074842
arcades are fucking dead
whats there to talk about?
playing ddr with a controller?
>>320076872
>Captain Jack
>Butterfly
>>320079004
>yfw the original game from the same devs that came before DDR and pioneered the concept used a "baby toy controller"
>>320078912
>stepmania dead
shame. i remember playing that on my softmoded xbox. good times
>>320079160
>Hating on Butterfly
But I agree in the other one, captain jack is a really gay song
>>320076872
Drop the Bomb Nonstop Remix is my jam
>>320078678
There actually I'd one for the ps3 but the setlist is disappointing as fuck
>>320079160
>butterfly
if a song can be a mascot then butterfly is that song for DDR.
>>320079998
>not Waka Laka
>or captain jack in general
>>320078939
remember the good times /v/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bybkLlNbaaw
>>320079998
It's a meme song.
Some of the least suspecting "campy" songs are actually the most fun to play like Cartoon Heroes.
Then there's obvious ones like Abyss and Kakumei.
And then there's ones in between you don't expect that are fucking god tier: https://youtu.be/WIKz0Kza7no
Dance Central and Just Dance killed it.
>>320075702
shots fired
>>320080180
It was dead before that came out.
>>320079085
>arcades are fucking dead
Pokken Tournament is doing pretty well in Japan though (implying one arcade removing it is a big deal).
>>320080156
I never realized how much I liked sexy planets beat until right now
>>320079004
Not even the same company. Damn you're bitter.
>>320080084
nigga pls. every girl you ask who plays ddr will know butterfly
>>320079085
I go to the arcade every Thursday with my friend.
Step aside, posting best DDR girl.
What kind of songs do you play?
>>320080709
Can you feel the
FLOOOOOOOOOoOOOOOW
>>320074842
Most people who are into vidya don't play DDR. It's really a shame because every person I know who is a DDR player is interested in the same type of games people enjoy on here or elsewhere. It can feel alienating trying to bring it up in the topic of a general video game discussion.
DDR is still active in Japan, as most of the attention for it is in Asia, especially for the competitive community. With that said, rhythm threads on /jp/ might be your best bet, but even then it's mainly IIDX.
What was your go to style song when people started watching?
I would choose between
321 Stars
A
Afronova
Max 300
Tsugaru
Slow down take your time and feel the
F
L
O
W
/v/ just hates song games. that's why they hatethe Bust-A-Grooves on PS1
>>320080947
Afronova
Paranoia 190
Dead end
Dynamite rave
I haven't play this game in a while, I wonder how bad would I do If I play now that I'm older
>>320079373
It is a shame. It's still getting updated, but less so since so many people in the community were being assholes to the people making the latest build. It's also become really difficult to find a lot of songs that aren't super hard.
>>320081251
>I haven't play this game in a while, I wonder how bad would I do If I play now that I'm older
I used to play a lot in high school. A lot.
Now I'm 30, can barely play. Tired after two games. It's heartbreaking.
>>320081251
I only ever play if I see it at an arcade. I've found Afronova is easy enough to ease back into.
>>320081114
>/v/ hates bust a groove
if this is the case, it means /v/ is shit and we should all leave forever.
>>320080947
Healing Vision
Rhythm and Police
Exotic Ethnic
Drop Out
Paraonia Survivor
Songs with difficult crossovers look more intense and therefore draw more attention to those watching.
>>320081543
>tfw I'm 30 as well
Where did time go?
>>320081591
Afronova on hard/expert? Sounds fun, I need to look for an arcade near me
>>320080947
A
Twin Bee
Orion.78 (AMeuro Mix)
Sakura if I felt up to it
Smoooch on the newer machines
>>320080156
Damn it, this fucking song. Good times.
>>320081873
>Where did time go?
Wasted it, mostly here.
>>320074842
DDR died with arcades unfortunately.
I miss it. People never believe that my athleticism comes from nearly running myself ragged on those things for 6 hours a day.
>you'll never get a crowd of people watching you play a video game again
Are you on this level of expert /v/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6u-raw8GC0
>>320081873
Expert still gives you some freedom but standard really opens up what you can do with the chart.
Also posting classic freestyle
https://youtu.be/FVPjS8mhhZ0
>mfw I go to a small business arcade every other week that has DDR, Pop'n, IIDX, Reflec Beat, Jubeat, Guitar Freaks, and PIU
>>320075702
>who actually went outside for fun
>>320080947
Always warmed up with Freckles/My Generation cause I could do it backwards, then go into either So Deep/Rhythm and Police into Exotic Ethnic/Max 300/Orion .78/Matsuri Japan
Shit I can't believe I remember all that though
>>320081251
hahaha, literally me. every fucking time
>man, I'm gonna impress these people with my ability to spaz out in front of a video game
but damn it, did I give it my all. Fuck, even made a girlfriend with that shit, so I can't really regret any of it.
I'm sure my wheezy ass would blanch at those levels now, assuming I could find a machine that wasn't a burnt out grumbling wreck with a pad that hasn't be treated like an elephant river danced on it.
>>320082278
pump really was focused more on freestyle for a while.
Shame I never got good at these games until they started going down in popularity. Still, at least I get to show off at conventions and what not.
>>320081251
You'd be surprised. I saw it recently at some ghetto arcade and was still able to do really well. It's one of those things that once you learn you don't really forget.
Now all that matters is how bad your stamina is
>>320078681
Did Bemani just stop making arcade machines too? It's so annoying to be let down every time you see that shitty Pump it Up machines
I was a huge DDR fan, then graduated to ITG.
DDR really is fucking dead, and it pains me to say it. Pump sucks, everything past extreme sucks.
Since Konami owns ITG now, there is no hope for comeback. Was fun while it lasted, there are still a few amazing ITG dedicabs out there if you can find them.
>>320074842
In all honesty, multiple things contribute to it's death and there are things that keep putting more nails in that said coffin.
>>320082774
They're still making them, just not localized anymore. Current gen jap machines look like this.
I think Round 1s have them in the states if there's one near you, but unless you live in Cali that's pretty unlikely.
>>320082272
>that stepchart
>uploaded in 2008
>stepmania
It's funny because that's not even much compared to the newer songs on DDR as of recently:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDggyBe-yuo
>>320082993
I've never even heard of Round 1 till now. Fuck
>>320075323
It's actually 17.
>Only ITG machine near my home was bought out by some rando arcade in NY five months ago
>PIU machine nearby is still running (no patch) Fiesta and has gotten zero fixups sans a new monitor
>Have to travel 3 hours to get the arcade experience
>Said-arcade that's located 3+ hours of travel time's ITG machine doesn't have USB functionality and still charges two credits for doubles and the left side's fucked anyway
the one with drop the bomb and captain jack was the best.
also why was it either the asian guy or the really fat guy that was really good? like the fatass couldnt walk up a flight of stairs without dying but he can do the hardest difficulty no problem. sure, hed be sweating profusely but it makes no sense.
>>320082993
Only fancier arcades tend to have white cabs.
Did you hold the bar when you play like a pleb /v/?
>>320083049
Looks like a fun chart.
>>320079004
>bemani weebs will forever ever be butthurt over harmonix games
>>320083306
fucking bar huggers.
>>320083306
It's not 2003 anymore anon, holding the bar is 100% acceptable.
>>320079004
The amount of ignorance in this post is just staggering
>>320083306
Some days I honestly thought I would start stabbing people for doing that.
Cause it's old as all fuck. It's hayday has long since passed replaced by IIDX, Jubeat and Sound Voltex.
I had a DDR Extreme machine near me years ago though and that was the shit. Objectively best version besides MAX.
>>320078648
Couldnt stand DDRs tracklist with them damn screeching Japanese singers.
ITG2 is the best, if anything it had real music.
The last DDR thread I saw on /v/ was fantastic and showed me beware's Stepmania DDR Extreme mod which is fan-fucking-tastic once you figure out how the fuck to get a mat with a USB adapter to read simultaneous left-right inputs correctly
I'm posting about it now to return the favor and hope it makes someone else's day better
>>320083550
>it's 2015 for crying out loud! everybody holds the bar now! stop being so anti-barist!
>>320083829
I never understood this mentality when the majority of ddr music was in english from european singers for the most part.
Also, ITG2 is full of stock music.
>>320078678
I have this game and its not too bad but it does have some shitty American pop songs.
>>320083954
>>320083649
>>320083550
>>320083464
>caring how other people play a video game
Let's see...
>In public
>Dancing
>Always surrounded by others waiting to play
>Coin operated
>>320084051
What are some good DDR controllers for home use?
>>320082993
RIP Arcade Infinity
>>320083954
Are you gonna deny that whining about "bar raping" isn't some 2004, gaiaonline, ddrfreak.com "I can't wait for Extreme 2" shit?
>>320084094
>I have never been in a modern arcade - the post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-aNrFt_W7lM
This vid was posted New Year's Eve, 1999
holy
shit
And this guy's moves are great
>>320084041
>I never understood this mentality when the majority of ddr music was in english from european singers for the most part.
Because this stopped being the case after Extreme, which came out in 2002. They lost all of their Dancemania licenses which is why they now whore out Anime OP/EDs whenever they're aren't shoveling out gimmicky trial and error boss songs or flat-out pretending the game doesn't exist for months on end (you know, like Jubeat Prop).
>>320084059
>being this casual
if you're not going to care, I'll care for you. a crutch is a crutch, anon. It's time you learn to stand, then flail about to bubbly japanese club beats on your own two feet.
>>320084174
I just use the mat that came with the game or use a regular PS3 controller
>>320084174
If you're serious about your playing, it's best to invest in a metal pad. There are some sites that still sell them on the internet.
>>320084396
>PS3 controller
Gross
>I just use the mat that came with the game
I don't own the game, I'm looking for one for Stepmania.
>>320084461
Eh, we'll see about that. I'm not trying to spend more than maybe $100 if possible.
>>320084298
You're not wrong
>>320084174
There are literally zero ASCs out there worth buying. People either just buy cheap machines and repair the pads or build them from scratch. Cobalt Flux pads are hard as fuck to find and don't feel the game.
Because Pump It Up is objectively better
>>320084365
Nah man, they put a bunch of UK Hardcore stuff in Supernova 2. That was pretty cool.
I'll admit that I don't know much beyond that one, the machine I play on at my arcade is modded so it has more of the japanese stuff from IIDX and what not.
>>320082993
Just a heads up anon, those DDR machines are only in Round 1's for localizing testing and currently the localization tests are being moved out of the round 1's and into Dave and Busters'
But if you ever do get the chance, my favorite round 1 is the city of industry location in the puente hills mall
3 DDR machines
2 pump it up cabs
Rerave
4 Sound Voltex cabs
Gitadora Tri Boost Drums and Guitar with active session enabled for Co Op play
2 IIDX cabs
4 cabs of the Newest Blazblue version
4 SSFIV cabinets
Tekken 7
Initial D
And That's Just scratching the fucking surface of that R1 location
Also, there's a bar, billiards, ping pong, bowling, karaoke
I remember when I thought So Deep was the hardest shit in existence. Then I found out about the 1.5x multiplier
>>320084621
Yeah, I was never able to get used to cobalt flux pads. It's pretty easy to fix up metal pads though, there are tons of guides on how to do it.
Don't mind me, just being the absolute best of Max songs.
honorable mentions to the legend of max for being almost equally amazing
I have like 23 zip files that collectively contain possibly every DDR song to hit a console, but idk where to upload it,
I guess if anyone's interested they can go here
https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/simfiles.php?category=simfiles
https://zenius-i-vanisher.com/v5.2/viewthread.php?threadid=5076
I was trying to be a completionist, which ended up being really fucking confusing and took a while because of all the region differences and song rereleases.
>>320085332
Know that at least one fellow autist downloaded this pack anon.
>live in a small apartment
>can't play stepmania or downstairs neighbors will throw a shitfit
One day I'll have a better paying job that lets me move into an actual house, but this is what I'm stuck with for now. Feels fucking bad man
>>320085206
>not max. period
shiggy diggy konamiggy
>>320084174
metal pads or hard foam pads are pretty cheap nowadays
rhythm and police is my favorite DDR song and it was only on extreme as far as I am aware which was fine when that seemed to be the dominant machine around here but then for some reason everyone upgraded to supernova which has like no songs that I like at all
/v/ is too fat to play.
>>320085136
Precision dance pads, though not the same as arcade/metal pads, are a great alternative. They even sell bar kits.
My favourites.. particularly afronova.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpWGxbt8i5s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9f9ZEplQrU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu7oY4qKCSc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63MT4GtlCjU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7fr4xSl9YUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9cshIaiqg4
https://youtu.be/4Ndgpqnfs-E
https://youtu.be/_Y8Bu0UnL4U
I played mostly around the time of 3rd mix and 5th mix.
They don't have many places to play it here in Ausfailia anymore...
The music got better than the dance moves:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yn1_A7aKMDc
X had some good stuff but it was garbage to actually play.
>>320086358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn2usIcB6So
>>320085938
rhythm and police was awesome
>>320085332
Thank you, holy fuck
I lived in bum fuck nowhere that flat out never had any kind of arcade. I stumbled into getting gifted DDR Extreme 1 for PS2 with the trash pad it comes with. For some reason I got really dedicated to getting good, and got a nicer pad with foam inserts, and practiced my ass off for no reason other than the challenge.
I fell in love with naoki's tracks in that game, especially b4u, and felt like I'd finally got good when I started to get A ranks on the hardest difficulty of Can't Stop Fallin In Love. I used a bar chair as a shitty bar, until I watched a YouTube video of some crazy good arcade player from the state over, where he cleared a song on challenge without the bar, AAA rank, so he could talk shit back to the comments section that give him shit for using the bar in his previous clear of that track. I stopped using any bar after that.
I eventually also got the home versions of Supernova and Extreme 2, but they had more irritating gimmicks involved in getting tracks compared to Extreme 1's raw grind.
I loved the series. I truly wish I'd had a real arcade to go to for it. When I got the chance some time ago to actually play a cab, I noticed I got vastly more time for my dollar than my friends did out of the games they were playing.
>>320086732
Just paying the favor back, like I said it was another anon on here that showed me that a few months ago. My dream is for everyone to pass it along.
I used wikipedia to figure out which games had which tracklists, it's....surprisingly complete info
>>320085332
Well, it's time to revive my childhood.
Everyone has moved onto to keyboard revolution ever since the pro DDR scene died out brah
>>320082774
You talking shit about PIU?
Finally started into DDR earlier this year.
Any tips on song progression for a proper learning curve? I've been switching between DDRMax and Supernova on PS2 and recently bought Ultramix 2 and 4 for Xbox.
Still pretty bad at it, really like Exotic Ethnic though.
>>320086414
I'd like to agree, but I only played on an X cabinet twice. Maybe it was my imagination,but I felt a bit of lag playing it.
>>320084306
Saitama's real secret to his power.
>>320087875
Justshow me your performance!
>>320087875
Basically when you star getting B's and A's on light, bump yourself up to standard. and then up to heavy when you're comfortable.
Also, throw some cardio on top of your playing to improve stamina, it really helps.
>>320085332
I installed this pack and now I'm locked to single player?
Some girl I played with at a convention tricked me into playing this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCdx1bjGGRY
Thanks who ever you are, it was a lot of fun.
>>320086414
When they feel like making BGAs, they're pretty sweet.
DJMAX and PIU are still the kings of BGAs, though.
Some arcades have Desktop rentals for the Olympic eSports of ASSFAGGOTS
>>320088576
My local Gameworks has an all-new eSPORTS section that rarely has more than 3 or 4 people in it.
>>320088390
I forget which key pulls up the super secret super config menu, which lets you disable annoying shit like the "insert coin for player 1" and "insert coin for player 2" buttons you have to hunt for to get 2 player going.
It might be "Home" or some shit, it's been a while
>>320084790
>Live in San Diego
>No Round 1 locations
>LA has FOUR (4) Round 1 locations
Literally why?
>>320088520
Keyboardmania also had some pretty cool BGAs
I actually downloaded Stepmania a couple weeks ago, it's pretty good cardio
>New local hobby shop
>"Oh why not, let's see what they have."
>walls are covered with obscure comic books and movie posters, actual store is clustered as fuck with bookcases of anime and a few pinball machines
>guy behind counter admits he rented storage space in a warehouse somewhere for extra junk
>ask about DDR
>has one arcade cabinet for the low, low price of thousands of dollars
>Go home
>play Stepmania Online
no regrets
>>320083885
>getting mat with USB adapter to read simultaneous left-right inputs
I have an old RedOctane foam pad, no clue the exact model, with a Super JoyBox11 adapter. Triple jumps work just fine.
>>320091673
I wasn't so lucky, had to get some weird script thing I forgot the name of to do it
>>320089519
we got the japs, you got the borderhoppers, that's why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbPyApDWjlE
SDVX III Data
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>>320074842
/v/ simply can't into rhythm games, they are too casual.
>>320093346
Rhythm games are fucking shit. The only appeal is getting the exercise. Other than that, literally anyone with a brain would realize in 5 fucking minutes they're grinding away at something that has no content whatsoever. Why bother with something empty when you have a thousand other games requiring reflexes as well, but also reward you for your effort?
Rhythm games are for mindless grindmonkeys. Kill yourself.
>>320093576
>I can't beat it therefore it's a waste of time
>>320093576
>wahh I don't like it so it's bad
>>320093778
>implying I can't beat it
When you grow up you'll realize you can actually beat 99% of games if you sink enough time into it. It's never a question of if and instead a question of when. However the underlying question is whether it's really worth it, but the answer is obviously no.
Trying hard is for insecure fags, anon.
>>320094082
>I can get good but I just don't feel like it :^)
>>320094082
>However the underlying question is whether it's really worth it, but the answer is obviously no.
Because you don't like it. That's it.
It's "not worth it" to get good at any game, the only reason you do it is because you have fun playing it. Some people have fun playing rhythm games, some don't.
You're a fucking retard.
Who here liked to play Sandstorm before it got memed so much?
>>320094428
>Because you don't like it. That's it.
Except it isn't just my subjective feel for it. It's the lack of content. DDR games usually have a bunch of arrows popping up and testing your reflexes. That's it. There's no content except for the music, which is generic. You're literally grinding away the simplest of UIs masquerading as games. They're not worth your effort at all.
>>320074842
>DDR dead
>Stepmania dead
I used to do a ton of my cardio with it, but I grew really tired of the old material.
Just Dance is fucking garbage, and Stepmania gets no new content.
What the fuck do I do to get new songs with good arrows? Do I have to make them myself? It's such a shame.
>>320094756
It's all about the sense of progression. Being able to master all the songs you like feels good man.
I imagine you're some kind of new-age gamer who doesn't understand the concept of reflex based skill. I bet you can't imagine why anyone would play Tetris for more than 5 minutes, after all, it's just falling blocks.
Maybe, one day, you might grasp the core concept of gaming as a means of challenging and testing yourself. Until then, stay stupid.
>>320094756
>DDR games usually have a bunch of arrows popping up and testing your reflexes. That's it.
Any game can have no content if you ignorantly minimize it that much.
By your logic just about any arcade-styled game is worthless shit with no content.
Even despite that, content quantity is not at all representative of a game's quality or appeal. Look at Tetris.
>They're not worth your effort at all.
Why? The purpose of games is to have fun. If you like it, it has exactly as much purpose as any other game. You still haven't given a reason why other than "I don't like the game." If anything rhythm games are more worth your effort than any other gametype because you actually get real world timing and dexterity skills that you can apply to real instruments.
Congratulations on being one of the biggest retards I've seen here in months.
>>320082365
Lucky
I'm stuck in Arkansas, I'm lucky to find a DDR machine
>tfw never will get to play DJMAX Technika the way it was meant to be played
>>320075269
This desu senpai
>>320095513
>tfw never will get to play DJMAX Technika the way it was meant to be played
You mean "as a shitty clone cab of a far superior series"? Kill yourself, gook.
>>320095140
You're absolutely wrong. I will naturally understand a long term speedrunning project of a game you loved as a kid or just about anything that deserves the effort of a player. I will however never accept playing throwaway garbage coded on someone's lap like the DDR games. Especially on a level autists pride themselves to be.
You can artificially inflate the difficulty ceiling however high you damn wish as a programmer. It's not hard to make the game hard just enough for a youth to waste his life in a pointless grind. The point is it isn't fair. It rots your brain away as you watch your adolescence wither away playing pointless garbage.
It's better to be smarter than that and focus your efforts on something that makes it worthwhile. DDR games are literally the worst aspect of gaming exaggerated to the maximum.
>>320095675
What game did it copy? I know regular DJMAX Is heavily reminiscent of beatmania but Technika doesn't seem based on anything
And regardless of what game, I'll play it. We have absolutely no scene for rhythm games here.
>>320076401
Extreme or X2
>>320095504
>Any game can have no content if you ignorantly minimize it that much.
There's literally nothing else with less content and effort put into it than DDR.
>By your logic just about any arcade-styled game
Arcade games have plenty of content.
My point is DDR trivializes menial grinding to a point where it's considered mandatory. It takes the fun out of video games and it takes the imagination out of video games. It's the worst gaming has to offer devoid of creativity, which is comparable to working in a chinese factory packaging cellphone casings.
>>320095763
Did a DDR cabinet rape your mom or something?
Speedrunning is a million times more worthless. You're playing mainly for street cred from dumb nerds, and all games at a high level literally boil down to rote memorisation, muscle memory, and complete luck.
Watching someone clear a hard track on DDR is visually impressive. I personally don't care for the game much because I find it to rely too much on memorisation over skill, but the flip-side is that you're getting some exercise, and maybe even an interest in dance.
DDR is a great concept that players of all skill levels can enjoy. Gaming is not "worthwhile" as a hobby. You play games as a form of entertainment. You can't translate your sick speedrunning strats to the real world in any shape or form.
>>320096303
>There's literally nothing else with less content and effort put into it than DDR.
And here's where we know you're just baiting.
>My point is DDR trivializes menial grinding to a point where it's considered mandatory.
This is how literally every arcade game works, and tons of non-arcade games too. You keep playing something to get better at it, and you do it because being good at the game is fun and seeing the progression is fun. Are you retarded? Do you just hate video games? Do you only play indie walking simulators?
>It takes the fun out of video games
So, like I've been telling you, it's just because you don't like them. Now you're confirming it yourself.
>>320096303
>menial grinding
That's what video games are, though. You play them until you get good, for the sense of accomplishment.
Has a decade of casual "push X to win" gaming rotted your brain away?
>>320095675
You're confusing your DJMAX games, anon. Technika is touchscreen-based.
>>320076401
Which one's the one with Captain Jack?
>>320096391
>Speedrunning is a million times more worthless. You're playing mainly for street cred from dumb nerds, and all games at a high level literally boil down to rote memorisation, muscle memory, and complete luck
That may be so, but it involves much more creativity and thought and DDR ever would. And besides, nobody runs a game at the highest level without the game holding some meaning for them. In comparison, DDR is just a menial grind, and it's definitely not visually impressive because the visuals are arrows falling the top of the screen or similar such nonsense. It's only impressive to someone who has already committed to the grind.
Like I said my main is that it trivializes the worst aspect of gaming AKA grinding like a monkey. There's no pay off from that like you'd have from playing an instrument. It's nothing but a huge waste of time and your life. Better realize that sooner than later.
>>320096391
DDR has nothing to do with memorization at the high levels wtf are you talking about. It's all about twitch reaction. Good players can clear new songs and score well the first time they see/hear them.
source: I play DDR
>>320096621
I suddenly have an idea
>buy one of those dumb huge 21 in. nabi tablets for families
>put Cytus, Technika Q, etc on there
>???
The only problem I can forsee is performance issues since I have no idea how powerful those are
>>320096882
DDR has health and social benefits captain autismo
>>320096912
>twitch reactions
You're building muscle memory on known patterns, dumbass.
>>320096912
this, but the hardest songs are high memorization
>>320082993
What's the pricing like at Round 1?
>>320080947
Scorpion Fire although it's IIDX
>>320097029
99% of the games being talked about consist of pressing keys on a keyboard or playing shit like osu!. Where are those health benefits again?
>>320097051
Thats like saying all vidya is memorization cause yougit gudover time
>>320096882
>but it involves much more creativity and thought and DDR ever would.
Speedrunning, is at best, a communal effort. The vast majority of WR holders have little to no actual impact on their games of choice, they're literally just using the strats devised by other people in an optimal way, while also getting insanely lucky with random elements in the game. You literally know nothing about gaming.
"Grinding" is gaming. It's literally the condensed form of "fun", a constant cycle of self-improvement and mastery over something you enjoy.
>>320096912
Eventually you reach a point where your feet can't reasonably react in time to a completely random note pattern, at which point it becomes memorisation. It's miles better than absolute casual trash like jubeat, but it does have hard limits.
>>320097087
maybe for unofficial stepmania songs. High level players can beat most songs in 1 to 2 tries. Like anything scoring the top of the top requires practice.
>>320097185
The point is your skills aren't going to be applicable in any other game with different controls except for the minuscule improvement in reaction.
>>320097351
They apply directly to other dancing games and partially to other rhythm gamescause its all the same shit
>>320074842
Fuck DDR. No one watches me play my cute rhythm games on hard mode because everyone just watches DDR. Fuckers just hold the bars and look retarded anyway
>>320097268
Still it's a process that involves much more thought than DDR ever would. Sure, some people take it to the highest level of commitment, but it isn't encouraged.
>"Grinding" is gaming.
True grinding the likes of DDR involves repeating the simplest of things for hours on end in a sterile environment. There's no defending it. It's just bad - poison to the mind.
>>320097268
That point does not exist in the "official" games, in general the hard songs are designed to be hard but passable. Good players can and have passed everything on release. Gimmicky stepmania lol randum songs do not take human limits into account.
>>320097687
That's why I avoid shit like Stepmania or Osu.
People don't get what makes a song fun to play, all they think of is "HURR NOTESPAM"
>>320097687
I should add to this that DDR is fucking easy mode for reading and reacting when compared to something like IIDX.
>>320097657
"True" grinding like you're describing is in-game grinding. Let's use the age old example, levelling in a generic JRPG or MMO. This is wasting your time in order to FEEL more powerful. You aren't actually getting stronger, you aren't actually getting any better at the game, because these titles are made for dumb children who can't imagine physically improving.
That's poison to the mind, dude.
Rhythm games are the direct opposite. They're based on the real psychology that drives humans, self-improvement. If you don't enjoy getting physically better at an activity you enjoy, or understand why other people might enjoy such a feeling, then you're literally broken and you should go throw yourself into a lion cage so your worthless husk of a body can be useful for something.
>>320074842
>DDR
thats not PUMP
I love sushi!
>>320074842
Because it's not popular anymore, or at least not as much as it use to be, anyway.
Still enjoy going to arcades and executing flawless runs and getting dozens of passerbyers to stare at my "skills">actually just play hard difficulty and people think im godly at the game
What the fuck are you dingus on about? Why are you even comparing it to other games? It's unique in it's own way and thus some enjoy it. If you don't, go shit up some another thread please.
>>320098280
>levelling in a generic JRPG or MMO
Extreme kind of leveling up, sure. But you're still working with a visual stimulus and exploring carefully crafted locations, which ultimately inspire creativity. You're not just confining yourself to a sterile, boring environment of a DDR game filled with emptiness. It isn't poison to the mind the same way witnessing art isn't. It stimulates you and inspires you for something more than just menial work.
Rhythm games simply take one subset of mechanics that are a part of every reaction oriented game and turn it into your only goal. The only psychology behind this pointless process is that slaving away at something that has no applicable uses outside of a certain field is a worthwhile task. It isn't, it just isn't.
>>320096882
>ignore the posts that prove you wrong
epic
move along folks, nothing to see here
>>320098926
>you're still working with a visual stimulus and exploring carefully crafted locations
I sure do want to see some more cookie cutter worlds, that makes the grind worth it.
People enjoy rhythm games. You're coming from some fucktarded standpoint of "nobody actually likes these games, they just like getting better at them".
The whole reason they like playing them is because they test your skill, like any good game. The more you play, the better you get, which increases the enjoyment.
You're the kind of absolute moron who plays games for the meaningless filler elements like story, it's no wonder you can't understand.
>>320079998
>butterfly
True, I've never even played ddr and I'm familiar with that song
>>320099241
>they test your skill
They force you to acquire a meaningless skill that is based completely on muscle memory. They also trivialize that habit while offering no meaningful content on its own.
>>320099254
You? Yeah.
>>320099370
>They force you to acquire a meaningless skill that is based completely on muscle memory.
Just like every arcade game.
>>320099617
Arcade games have content as opposed to arrows scrolling down.
>>320097029
it's also FUN
>>320074842
Becuase it's never in any of the arcades I visit.
>>320099773
>hurr arcade games have no content
That's wrong.
>>320099661
>moving the goalposts
>literally being incapable of reading and comprehending a single fucking sentence
however much or little content your retarded head thinks there is, rhythm games and any traditional arcade game are both the exact same thing, acquiring a meaningless skill that is based completely on muscle memory.
Learning and memorizing the same four stages is also a lot faster and easier than learning and memorizing 1000+ songs
>>320099810
just like mario kart arcade
>>320099921
>being this bad at reading
Who said that? You?
I'm not even going to bother replying to you if you just keep ignoring everything
It's like I'm talking to a wall
>>320099946
Except rhythm games take it to the extreme because literally the only reason to play is to build muscle memory. Arcade games offer a whole variety in comparison, so you're wrong. It's not the same.
>>320080947
Xepher was my go-to for impressing a crowd. I also memorized the gimmick songs like bag and Chaos so I could show off, shit was great. Absolute favorite songs/charts were A, Paranoia Respect, Healing Vision, and Daikenkai.
Then one year I came home for summer break and the arcade was gutted out of the mall, nothing left. A piece of my soul went with that arcade I think.
![Soft-Mat[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/d3K325p.jpg "Soft-Mat[1].jpg")
>>320074842
anyone managed to make his DDR mat to work on windows7?
link related
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/windows_8-hardware/usb-game-controller-not-detected-by-windows-8/39326ca6-73e7-44a8-a7b5-1c3cea1a3876?page=2&auth=1
>>320100015
Just because you posit some dumb ass scenario where arcade games have no content because I'm minimizing something doesn't mean that's true. They do have content. Rhythm games do not.
>>320100058
>Except rhythm games take it to the extreme because literally the only reason to play is to build muscle memory.
No, the reason to play them is for fun, you fucking retard. Just like any other game, like people have been telling you all thread. I'm done wasting my time with you, go be a moron somewhere else. There's no point arguing with someone who ignores every rebuttal and just spouts the same bullshit over and over again.
>>320100171
And you're still retarded, because that's still not what I said. Nobody can actually be this bad at reading comprehension
>>320076401
Extreme 4th mix. Anyone else ever play 6 step mode?
>>320100058
>>320100171
>variety in DDR cab
>hundreds of songs, taking somewhere in the region of a few days of 24/7 play to get through
>variety in any non-music cab
>optimally maybe an hour of content
Wait, what games were supposed to be devoid of content again?
>>320100165
>Windows 7
Fuck, I meant windows 8.
I actually keep my old rig with windows 7 around to play stepmania
>>320074842
I still play pretty often. Since its cold it's a great alternative to running for cardio. You have to play a shit ton though. In The Groove and Supernova are my favorites.
>>320100241
>No, the reason to play them is for fun, you fucking retard.
Any retard can find whatever reason they want to play whatever they want. That doesn't make the game good. The truth is rhythm games have no content and are uninspired as fuck. Only braindead grind monkeys would want to play them.
>And you're still retarded, because that's still not what I said. Nobody can actually be this bad at reading comprehension
Yeah, it is. Now fuck off already if that's what you desire. Rhythm games are shit. Go and continue wasting your life on them like a dumbass that you are.
>>320074842
Dancing is pretty gay unless you can do a cool moonwalk or robot
>>320100348
i played a lot of ITG. i thought the stepcharts and options were great but DDR will always have my favorite rhythm game music
>>320100464
>>320093346
>Rythm games
>Casual
Really nigga?
Rhythm games can be the most hardcore game out there.
Exhibit A:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enhmudogC3A
Exhibit B:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kGi9LE21dU
Second one is played with a modded DDR machine.
>>320100617
>talks about rhythm games not being casual
>posts osu
>>320100617
>osu
>hardcore on any level
Legit kill yourself, you braindead fuck monkey.
>>320100617
Comprehension of reading.
>>320084179
Shit was fun
>>320100659
>>320100706
Tell me great god gamers, have you beaten games of such difficulty? Or are you one of those le muh DS guys?
Drummania is the one game I'll admit that I'll always be too casual to play. You need actual, real drumming experience to be proficient at that shit. I'll stick with Taiko.
>>320100991
Try keyboardmania, dude.
>comfy ddr thread ruined by shitposting
I'm just going to post my favorite songs I guess
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C95oeUFRwg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeHwwZtBSnM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU2aMeb2z24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr1TBEdjG90
>>320100659
>>320100706
>>320100786
Next thing you're gonna say that bullet hell games are easy because all you have to do is dodge bullets. In a bullet hell game.
What game fills the void best? And should I give a shit about what dance pad I buy?
https://youtu.be/i2mhAbm05tg?t=6
What's being said here?
>Everyone's hypnotized
or
>Here comes hypnotron
>>320101020
An old arcade by my place had that game and I don't think I ever saw a single person attempt to play it.
>>320101123
What kind of a retarded analogy is that? How is that even remotely related to anything?
A proper comparison for what's happening would be saying that an easy shmup is easy compared to harder shmups
How can anyone be this stupid
>>320101137
For longevity's sake, yes.
>be DDRfag
>been playing since I was younger
>didn't have good mats so I could mostly do some low-tier Heavy stuff
>dream of making it big one day
>before college learn there's a bigger community for DDR in America
>except it overlaps with other rhythm games
>no knowledge nor money to play these games
>you can't just be good at one, GOTTA CATCH EM ALL
>now I'm stuck with a PIUfag friend who's mad good at all these games
>feels bad man
>>320101123
Osu is literally the absolute worst rhythm game you could ever play.
It's a game built entirely on rote memorisation, with retarded beatmaps designed by ADHD kiddies, and a scoring system that doesn't work.
You'd have to be utterly braindead to play it.
>>320101247
Any recommendations?
>>320101273
>That can be said for most jrpgs
>>320101221
also I was in the top percent for a bit of players in one of those rhythm games, thankfully one of the nicer ones, but then I moved away from the machines and am behind on maps and it fucking blows
>>320100617
Nigga I said /v/ is casual, not rhythm games are casual
>>320101363
I really don't know why you keep bringing up completely unrelated genres.
I guess it's hard to follow any kind of train of thought when you play Osu.
>>320101238
Ok, then tell me how in terms of difficulty can a rhythm game such as osu can be coined casual after I showed you that.
>>320101423
Ah, mb
>>320076401
Supernova andStepmania
>>320076401
MAXX2. Can't go wrong with a classic.
>>320101469
Osu is just memorization and mouse precision with a single string of inputs. It's a game that appears intense when you watch something like the video you linked, but when you break it down, there's just nowhere near as much to it as proper rhythm games.
>>320100617
>osu
>good
Fuck off
>>320093346
I made a thread here after the first time I played Copula, it had a few nibbles.
I was going to make another one now but I see this thread has become a general rhythm game thread of sorts.
Passed 9 Dan DP today. I was worried that Sakura Reflection into Alba would hurt, and I did end the second song clinging to 8%, but I was able to get back up to 100% and end at around 70% on Alba. Xenon is cake.
I built up a sweat during the course of my play today. It was great. There's just nothing like IIDX.
>>320076401
>Local Ripley's Believe it or Not had DDR 3rd mix and a old Beatmania machine before I really got into rhythm games. Paid it no mind
>2 years later when I'm on the scene kinda, check it out. DDR Max. Pristine condition, 25 cents a fucking play. Surprisingly busy.
>That was the machine that took me from Light to Heavy.
It's gone now, but the arcade across the way has a Supernova with kids drooling on it and banging their heads from slipping. The pad's trash.
>>320078779
the 2.5 hour ride to the nearest D+B has DDR ONLY, no ITG.
>>320084621
Some Cobalt Fluxes have the "arcade kit" that lets you feel where you are on the pad.
Just make sure to always wear shoes on any Flux.
>>320080947
>What was your go to style song when people started watching?
SPIN THAT MOTHERFUCKING DISC AGAIN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-R78axeAtfQ
This is still my fucking jam
>You didn't have a Cobalt Flux pad
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