>Leave the game for a long time
>Hear MWO is on Steam now
>Download
>Having a fucking great time on it
I think i've been waiting for this a long time. Stompy tactical giant mechs.
The Steam shitters are real though, but i guess they'll learn to stop wandering in front of the assaults.
Lots of improvements are made now.
Is the genre finally coming back?
MWO is still shit. Buy one of our six mech packs that are available for preorder today! Only $30.00 per battlemech, goy!
We added animated .gifs to the cockpit monitors! Progress!
is it true that they massively nerfed the graphics and never gave an option to restore them?
>>319892758
Depends on what you mean by massively nerfed, but they did add a shit smear filter to all of the maps, they did change thermal vision from being cool Predator view to shit black and white with no draw distance.
Oh, and they did make the damage modeling / skins look like shit. Probably because as they added more mechs, the original Crytek contractors they hired to do the original damage effects were no longer on the team and the film school interns they hired to replace them couldn't figure out anything but how to apply a "scorched metal" texture on everything.
>>319891142
Has it changed at all with how shitty PIGGI handles the game and community? I remember Russ stating they had to do a ton of things to make the game worth launching on Steam, but I also know that this is the same guy that kept Paul in charge of making the economy take 100+ drops to buy an assault, and other things that make a sane person question why there is a playerbase.
>>319892758
Never played the beta but i think it's true.
Also lots of salty founders around. Holy shit they don't play anymore and keep coming back to bitch about the game.
Still it's pretty fucking fun. No other game like it. PGI has been taking bad deal decision from a long time but since they departed from IGP the game has been slowly improving.
It's worth checking out. It's not Quake or CS kind of shooter, but it just feels RIGHT at its core.
I would like more sim stuff on it, but it has to balance arcadey with sim to not offput people.
Atlas is boss.
Is it p2w?
>>319893429
It is grindy, but the core gameplay is fun and fast so it's not painful. The grind comes from choosing a chassis, then fitting it to a good measure, so you'll invest in becoming a chassis specific or role pilot sometimes.
It comes down to being unique on it, but also to kinda fuck up if you didn't like in the end what you bought at first glance. Engines are costly as fuck though.
My advice is to NOT BUY NOTHING UNTIL THE C BILLS BONUS IS OVER AND YOU'RE POSITIVE ABOUT THE ROLE YOU WANT TO PLAY AS INITIALLY. The Hunchback is a fucking beast of a medium, it's sturdy for its weight, and packs a AC20 on its shoulder. It's a good beginner's choice to escort assaults and fits many roles just fine, and good brawler too.
>>319894231
No. It's pay2Not grind, though. Kinda like LoL.
Clan mechs are more costly than IS mechs, but they come fitted from default better. Only new release mechs cost real money for a limited time, then they can be purchased for C Bills.
There are "special" variants like champions and hero mechs that are better in some areas and can only be bought with real money, but they have other flaws and can be reproduced with the purchaseable chassis just fine.
>>319894231
It is the textbook of P2W, since the bigger whale is the one that wins in the end.
They have cash only "Hero Variants", which are always introduced to include equipment slots that compliment the latest meta, ranging from things like jump snipers, to other things that players request during the revealing process of a new line of mechs. A new or free player will not readily be able to stand against these, and just exist as fodder in the matchmaker.
Then you have clan tech and clan mechs, which are generally superior to the Inner Sphere / Default mechs. Higher specs, and special clan equipment, which was exclusive when I last played to Clan mechs. Weapons with faster firing or higher damage output, with lower heat issues (If mech overheats, it shuts down. Gets too high, you take internal damage and risk destroying the mech)
Since PGI has always struggled to put in base features like matchmaking in the game, and ELO was a joke forever and ever when I played it, not much of a point. You will get stomped by the people dropping in teams, even if just two guys are together in your match, their team has a much higher win rate than your likely unorganized pub. The only way to counter that is to join with other players in their groups, so they can leech off your new player low ELO for easy kills through matchmaker, or else just get used to losing.
Also, ponyfags are the top players in the game, and have been since Beta. That is the community this game has for you, when you're being stomped by P2W mechs.
>>319894959
But that's just git gud
Yeah Clans are canon better mechs, but the balance patches was to adress JUST THAT, and arguably, the best mechs right now are the IS ones, and the cheaper ones, actually.
But it all comes down to teamwork. Of course you're going to get shit on against a coordinated lance. There's no I win button to it. Get friends or stay away from Community Warfare and keep doing pubs.
There are not P2W mechs. It's actually funny to run around a Boar's Head with a Firestarter and chop his arms and legs before doing jack shit because he just bought it and can't position for shit.
>>319894959
>I can't git gud
That's how you sound like.
I'm just starting out
Is this a good mech? love giant guns. What variant should i get?
>>319896081
4G. That's the one you want.
I come back to this game about every 5 months play it for a month then quit...I don't know what that says about it.
I do have like 20 mechs though.
Its free and has mechs on it, i think its worth at least a try.
But why havent i ever heard of it before? Is it that bad?
>>319897263
It's different. It's learning curve for new players can be frustrating.
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=210&l=3a37a1d38fd4a3a5d8535bb25a01fd29872a70b6
would this be good? my favorite mech is the wraith, but it doesn't exist until 3055. how much would it cost in real money and grinding?
>>319894231
Yes. It is p2w in the sense that some mechs are time locked to be cash shop only for several months, and sometimes those mechs are insanely good, or offer function that you can't get anywhere else:
Previous examples of this: Timber Wolf/Stormcrow ($500 gold mechs, lol), Hellbringer (heavy with ECM and good hardpoints), Arctic Cheetah (was completely broken before nerf that coincided with it no longer being paywalled), and now with the upcoming HBK-IIC that you need to buy to replace your now worthless Grid Iron.
>tfw no MechWarrior MMO that isn't arena/matchmaking bullshit
>tfw no MechWarrior singleplayer modeled after the old games
>tfw no Heavy Gear 3
NO ANUBIS
NO DOWNLOAD
>>319891142
Mechwarrior Mercenaries taught me multiplayer is a railgun snipe fest using jump jets to peek over hills.
How's this one play? And by play I mean ACTUALLY play like the Mercenary culture mentioned above.
>>319897263
I've been playing Mechwarrior since it was still called Battletech, and I think it is the worst title in the entire series.
Not touching upon what I think ruins it (the developers having no sense of balance, being such babbies they remove things because they find them personally annoying), most other games don't kill other, older and better titles just because they're technically "competition"
>pay not to grind
This is always just another word for pay to win. Like in WOT, the only difference is how unbalanced the MM is. If you are getting put against something that 1 shots you but you can't damage it then it's pay to win.
If you are getting put against much stronger players in MWO then it's pay to win.
>>319898094
It's pay to win for a set amount of time, that amount being the time it takes you to grind the best mech and gear for it.
That's usually what people mean when they say it's pay to not grind instead of the person who spent money will always have an advantage.
Also the time it takes to grind one of the more expensive set ups is going to take fucking ages.
>>319897263
PGI got the dream deal at first with Razer and a special controller, Crytek working with them, and a massive premise. All of it fell flat when IGP started to want the LoL numbers and the interns started to go away. Lots of hurt feelings and salt everywhere. The original founders made a drama and the game was basically undead.
Then it started to slowly pick up again. Development came back. At its core, it was always fucking fun. Just that it's NOWHERE near the original promises, long story short.
But with the Steam release nearing for a year lots of things were improved and now it's the best it's ever been. It's really really good.
>>319897881
They just nerfed the lasers and Gauss rifles. Lots of shitters crying. Lots of viable mechs and builds now.
Want to make a brawler? go crazy.
>>319898486
From what I've played, Closed Beta, Launch and earlier this year, "The Best It's Ever Been" isn't saying anything.
>>319898094
>>319898464
Nah it's not pay to win. Of course fitting your own playstyle is better than shitty defaults. But taking the CTF for example, the 3D is good just as it is. Now take the Commando, it's cheap, but it's SHIT with the default setup.
Teamwork>>>>>>>>>>grind mechs. There's nothing that makes you deal more or less damage and nothing that makes you tankier.
WOT is painful to grind. It's not THAT grindy.
>>319898464
>It's pay to win for a set amount of time, that amount being the time it takes you to grind the best mech and gear for it.
Just like in WOT, huh. It will take you months to get a top unit then they nerf it or introduce even stronger units. It's still fucking pay to win, doesn't matter if you can get to the top for free. Pay to win in general means a shit unbalanced game that tries to force you to pay money. If they try to force you into paying then it's p2w.
I was an avid player of mechwarrior 2 and 3, to an extent 4 but not as much.
I only recently tried this since i was so put off by it initially. I have to say that i actually like the gameplay and the amount of customisation is nice too, but fuck these cunts for the cost of anything. Its disgusting and i refuse to put any money into it based on how badly this company tries to jew its players. Its a shame cause it could be good if it was handled diffirent but the prices for anything and everything are obscene.
Slightly dissapointed there is no option to flush coolant either. That and overheating isnt punished enough. Could do with reactors going critical too.
>>319897263
Hating on MWO became a meme at this point. Even the /vg/ threads will tell you this.
The game is fun, but it's tactical and teambased. Are you afraid of talking and calling coordinates? your team will go blind on the deathmatch. Are you helpful and proactive? call the shots or where the enemy is and that's all your heavies and assaults want to hear. Protect the whales and ECM your allies.
Also the CBills are granted by playing well. Being a shit farmer makes you get paid like shit. Help your team, do damage, get close to your lance, provide cover, destroy enemy components, and you'll cash big bucks.
>>319899415
>tactical and teambased.
>talking and calling coordinates
sounds like the gameplay is a piece of shit
>>319899021
IT's not like WOT. I played them both.
In WOT is linear. You start with a volkswagen and end up with a Ratte by grinding years. In MWO there are roles to fill, 4 classes, so it's more about playstyle.
Just buy a Firestarter and slap pulse lasers. There, you have the starter pack for 6million. It's that good.
>>319897263
It's free motherfucker just try it
>>319894231
>I got killed by a Grid Iron
P2W
>I killed a Grid Iron with a Raven
Not P2W
It's the same people that says LoL is P2W because can't stop skinned Teemo.
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>>319899415
The only people left in /vg/ are the ones so hopelessly addicted they spend thousands.
Even if you actually bothered looking at >>>/vg/124941928 right now, you'd find that most of them are still complaining and quite bitter about it.
Someone who is on your skill level spent money on their champion so they could spend their points on runes instead will have an advantage over you.
Someone who has bought a lot of champions will also have an advantage by virtue of being able to counterpick easier.
I don't know about the drama around its release but the game looks gorgeous and plays incredible. I loved AC and MW3 and this brings me back memories.
But for what i've been reading there are people really really salty around this game and they became toxic as fuck. Couldn't care less, i'm having fun and would like some friends to hop on it.
>>319891142
>Mechwarrior 5 gets put on the backburner
>instead, this free to play trash gets made
>>319900702
>GIT GUD
But LoL is a hassle to start from the ground up. Still look how many people doesn't really care about it.
>>319891142
Been getting into it as well.
It's pretty good
>not laid out like shit thunder or world of shit
>light mechs viable against assault mechs
>you get paywalled content for free for taking part of CW
>mechs feel like mechs not like in hawken
>cool new artstyle for MW
>get shitload of money in the begginning
>get to customize your mechs
It's like shit thunder and world of shits done non greedily
>>319900648
They aren't bitter, in fact they were the top Marik house in the latest event.
Well not any more than regular /v/. If the game wasn't legitimately good there wouldn't be a thread up all the time.
QUICK /v/ WHAT IS THE BEST HOUSE WHAT SHOULD I PICK
IS PLEASE CLANFAGS CAN GO FUCK THEMSELVES
>>319901410
If people didn't agree with someone on twitter's view on politics, there wouldn't be a thread up all the time, right? This is 4chan, these people are here to find others to wallow in misery with.
>>319901626
No, pick Jade Falcon you freebirth fuccboi.
>>319901626
Steiner and scout with 100tons of sneaky Atlases.
/gerg/ is Marik purple bird, though. But wouldn't want to play with virgins.
MW4 Mercs still holds up decently. Play that instead.
It is also free.
>>319902485
It would be nice if there happened to be continued development on that and MWLL. But I guess we can't have nice things.
>>319902618
I agree. Don't get me wrong, I wasn't shitposting MWO directly just to be an asshat. I played it in the beta or alpha or whatever it was and didn't enjoy it then, and shortly after release. I never found it compelling, and it was freemium done in a manner I found very annoying.
I still enjoy MW4, but MW3 has some serious compatibility issues on newer (read: after XP) systems.
>>319901410
>If the game wasn't legitimately good there wouldn't be a thread up all the time.
There are threads for shit games like WOT and WT all the time, your point?
>>319896081
4G and funnel all your money into upgrading. Ferro Fibrous, Endo Steel, double heat sinks, max out armor, bump that small laser to a medium, much bigger engine, couple more tons of ammo.
I've gotten 1000+ damage in games with my 4G Hunchback. Thing is a monster.
>>319903340
>>319901626
>>319902054
Katrina Steiner is a horrid cunt though. Why would you ever want to work for her?
>>319891142
did they fix this mess?
when it launched it was p2w absolute trash
>>319903913
I'd say "no"
>>319903568
Funny thing about the Hunchback is that it's supposed to be an old as fuck chassis that hasn't been decomissioned just because it's that good.
Old and boxy, but packs a fucking punch with the AC20 and can get up to 89kph. Heavies dismiss it as a non priority and then BAM there's an arm missing.
So many laser shitters, though. Can't brawl for shit in those mechs and when a ballistic experienced pilot comes around they get destroyed in a brawl.
What mech(s) and/or faction will allow me to indulge my Mobile Suit fantasies?Sieg Zeon!
>>319893753
>no other game like it
so its not as good as an actual mechwarrior game?
>IS pilots
>Hardworking, experienced, brawler pilots fighting for their home, can compensate for mech flaws.
>Clan pilots
>Tryhard edgy furry cunts sniping people with laser vomit, can't manage heat, complain when they get nerfed, MUH BATCHALL everywhere
>>319904184
Faction is for "roleplay" and the Community Warfare, you can use whatever you like.
It looks like an Enforcer, and the ENF is actually good. Also it's the one free right now.
>>319904527
>Freebirth Scum
>Piloting thousand-year-old garbage scows, fat smelly oafs who blindly do whatever their money-grubbing house lords tell them to do
>Pure, Bloodnamed Clan Warrior
Honorable combatant, knows his lineage, uses tried-and-true tactics and the best technology in the fight to take back Holy Terra
>>319904184
Just play MSGO, and spend five bucks a year on a VPN.
>>319904981
>Just play MSGO, and spend five bucks a year on a VPN.
I do, but it's old and lonely.
>>319904152
Definitely excels in urban combat. Speeding from cover to cover doing hit & runs on assaults while they fumble to maneuver out of the way. I always do best on Crimson Strait.
Also added the Reload and Range modules for the AC/20 onto it. Add the 4G's perk of already fast reload for the AC/20, and I'm basically firing that shit like an AC/10. Maybe faster, even.
>release clans
>release community warfare
>still make it 12v12
>not 3 lances vs 2 stars / 12v10 like it should be
Fuck you PGI
>>319891527
>genre coming back
>mediocre online game trying to be relevant again via hitting steam.
wake me up when singleplayer mecha game will be release, not some online bullshit
>>319905190
>Add the 4G's perk of already fast reload for the AC/20
Shit never thought about it. Still with the engine i'm using i can't get more than 17 AC20 shots. Maybe i should unmount something else - not armor- of course.
Is the Vulture in this game? This is important.
>>319906351
Yes it is. It's called the Mad Dog since Vulture is the IS name for it.
>>319906615
Shit, might just install it then. I was going to reinstall Living Legends today but I doubt it's any more alive than it was a few months ago.;_;
>>319906882
You should, with 6 srm 6 mad dog a best.I miss the old arms tho.
If I download it on steam is there still a login for non steam accounts?
>>319907674
yea
