Anyone else upset about the new mod system in XCOM2?
It doesn't seem like this kind of Diablo/Borderlands loot fest mechanic fits into a tactical squad game at all.
Why not?
I am more upset about pre-order shit
I don't really expect XCOM 2 to be any better than XCOM. It will just be more of the same with slightly different visuals.
For instance, in the first game, upgrading your base or equipment was just a linear toggling of flags that unlocked content. You need certain rooms to build the next thing, you need the ship upgrade to be able to take down the alien spacecraft, etc. It wasn't really a strategic gameplay issue, it was just gates.
That's something they could absolutely expand upon and probably won't at all. So I'm not very hopeful.
>>319891505
What about all the new customization options? Seems like it's p. in-depth.
>>319891006
>>319891959
Samefag.
>>319891006
>increased clip size
>>319891006
Yo dawg, we heard you like RNG...
>>319891959
>p.
Off yourself
>>319891006
i think it'sneat
>Clip
>>319893242
>>319894754
Not like this hasn't been the case since X-COM: UFO
2K says they're really releasing Mod Tools this time around. So as long as a Long War quality mod is made I don't mind what they do to vanilla.
>>319893536
I really, really do. No joke.
>>319894992
LW isn't even that great. XCOM is a game about your soldier's lives mattering and you getting attached to them. In LW they're so easily replaced that it doesn't matter.
>>319891006
>extended magazine
>increased clip size
>clip
>>319891959
Not really, who cares what equipment your guys use, it's either they can beat the aliens or not.
>>319891006
I think it looks great and fits the rag-tag band of brothers theme the game has got going on. Also not too irked about the pre-order DLC that people have been upset about considering most of it doesn't come out till summer as opposed to being day one DLC nonsense
>>319893242
>>319894754
>>319896538
Can someone explain this meme?
>>319896860
In gun culture a "clip" is distinct from a "magazine".
But casuals use the terms interchangeably.
>>319896860
A magazine is a supply chamber for a firearm, it contains bullets in a housing, typically assisting with loading. A clip secures bullets, and for most firearms that use them, load a magazine
>>319896860
>meme
>>319897060
>bullets
THE CORRECT TERM IS "ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION" YOU CUNT
THANKS OBAMA
>>319897060
I thought clip was for pistols and mag was for rifles
>>319897236
Not necessarily.
>>319897236
I just died a little from your post
>>319891006
>5% chance to go off the next turn
>or be wasted because its dead
????
whats even the point, it's either amazing or terrible. There is no in between.
>>319897368
there's a 5% chance every time you take a shot it does not cost an action, so you then have another remaining action you mong
>>319897368
It has a 5% chance to give a free shot....
that's it...
No downsides.
why is everyone so fucking assblasted?
is it because it says extended magazine but the clip size is increased? it even shows a longer clip in the image
>>319897236
There are clips for pistols and magazines for rifles, and the other way around
Glock 17 uses magazines
Mauser C96 uses clips
FAL uses magazines
M1 Garand uses clips
>>319891006
>"equipping" a scope
>gun has no scope on it.
>putting a scope on a gattling gun in the first place
>>319893536
that's why I autistically play Diablo 3
>>319891006
It's not a looting system like diablo/borderlands so I'm okay with it It gave more depth
>>319897693
Speaking as a gun owner i'm guessing it is because it makes no fucking sense. A larger mag would hold more cartridges, a larger clip would also hold more cartridges. These things are not the same thing but they serve a similar purpose, to supply the firearm with ammunition. Modern weapons do not use clips for the most part. Its kinda like double autism bait for us I guess...
>>319897540
Which will always have a downside, if the aliens dead then its not like you can charge forward with one unit solo because he finished his turn more efficiently
>>319897656
>>319898158
You can reload, put that unit on overwatch or move.
Checkmate Alien scum
>>319897223
No, the technical term is bullet, the MILITARY term is rounds.
>>319897349
What happens if you watch "kids say the darndest things"?
>>319898440
The technical term is actually cartridge, the bullet is just the tip of it
>>319897806
>mauser
Nope, that's a strip like the kar98 uses. Generally it goes like this. If it's a container with one opening at the top it's a magazine, if it's a container with several openings it's a clip and if it's not a container at all it's a strip.
>>319891006
the mod system looks good, but some bonus like "INSTA-KILL A SECTOPOD WITH A SHITTY PISTOL" are retarded and should be removed from the game
>>319896671
>not play in iron man
>not know the feels you feel every time a soldier dies
>not wanting to repet the same mistake, giving to your soldier the best gear you can get.
You're a shame.
>>319898440
The bullet is only the actual projectile, not counting the propellant, casing, or primer.
>>319898547
I shrug it off but on here I assume everyone is over 18
Right????
>>319891006
Might be cool.
It looks alright I guess
It doesn't really feel like XCOM though.
That's not to say I won't like it, but it's also not what I want from an XCOM game.
>>319893242
>It even says "Expanded Magazine: Increased Clip Size"
>>319891006
I'm not upset about it, but I do think it's kind of shit. None of these offer tactical flexibility, it's just 5% chance to be awesome.
>>319897806
Technically they all use magazines, it's just that the C96's and Garand's aren't detachable.
>>319895931
XCOM is a game about fighting a deadly alien invasion. LW gives you enough of a personnel buffer that the aliens can kill your dudes on a regular basis and still let you come back, whereas vanilla is all about the supercool A-team and the less cool B-team and if more than one of them dies you're fucked. It's like Fire Emblem.
>>319891505
I think thats what most people want. Why fuck with a winning formula? Its not like Firaxis has huge competition in this genre.
