>Publishers keep on putting their games on PC
>PC gamers refuse to buy them
Why even bother?
Why did they bother to make a shit game? Apparently enough people bought it in both cases.
good games sell well
see Valkyria Chronicles
>>319884694
>thinking pc users were ever into ff shit
It died at 13
a minimalist and easy way to make some extra $$ while possibly expanding the fanbase
The game's great, the port is good, and the XIII games sold very well already on consoles.
deal with it.
PC gamers probably have some kind of minimum standards and refuse to buy outright shit games, such as the final fantasy XIII -series
>>319884694
because Lightning has no ass
>>319884694
>OP keeps making the same thread
>People keep replying
Why even bother?
>>319884928
This is /v/. Here and /tv/ is nothing but those threads.
>>319884892
Fuck your shit.
I already own and liked the trilogy on PS3, and I just might get the PC ports just for 1080p+60fps
Nude mods were never delivered for the first 13, why would I buy more 13 now?
>PC users refuse to buy weaker titles
On PC you have more options. More options means you don't need to be taking whatever you can get.
>>319884694
>Why aren't PC users buying bad games?
Maybe I'll buy Dragon's Dogma. I wish they would put Dead Rising 1 out on PC. I have played DR2:OtR to death.
>>319884694
>people won't buy a terrible game
Wow now there's a shocker.
>>319884771
Final fantasy died at 8
FFX13 is shit and sold in the west pretty weakly compared to other FF games.
>>319884694
400K sales doesn't sound terribly bad.
>still using the horribly inaccurate steam sales site
If the games werent selling well then the companies wouldn't keep porting them. Simple business.
>>319885241
9 was amazing. 11 was also great. Can't say that I disliked 12 either.
>>319884892
>PC gamers probably have some kind of minimum standards and refuse to buy outright shit games, such as the final fantasy XIII -series
Sure. I've lost count over the number of absolute shit games Steam players eat up.
Take Tales of Zestiria for example.
>>319885406
>says steamdb is inaccurate with no source
Feck off.
>>319885325
It's half than Lightning Returns sold in consoles. And Lightning Returns sold 10 times less than the first FFXIII in consoles. It's bad.Shame, since Lightning Returns is pretty sweet and good
>>319884751
>Why did they bother to make a shit game?
LR is good though
>>319884694
You're right OP, it should be a legal mandate to purchase any game that comes to steam if you own a Steam account, the mustard tax.
PC gamers will only buy AAA games that cost millions to make for only $5.
>>319884892
lol sure, thats why EA survival multiplayer crafting garbage of the week is always on the top sellers of steam
>>319884694
Nobody wants to buy shit games.
Dragon's Dogma will probably sell well.
>>319885576
*if you are a faggot
Steam is mostly males despite the pretty sizable weeb fanbase.
>>319885534
Well it's only been a year since it came out.
>release game on consoles
>give absolutly NO indication that the game will ever come to PC
>5 years later silently release the game on Pc
>everyone who was interested already played it on consoles years ago
WOOW
>>319885507
That tells you how bad this game must be.
>>319885534
Wasn't the port way later on after it was released?
I wish they released FF9 instead.
Sequels to weeb games sell pretty poorly on PC on average
>>319885739
Surebut its in the style of the FF6 phone port.
>>319885673
Pretty much this. They're porting SNES, PS1 games, Neo Geo shit and other garbage now to steam and are even using emulators now just to make a minimal amount of profit.
>Jap dev ports game to PC
>No one buys it
>Goes bankrupt 2 months later
>>319884694
dark souls sold great on pc
u mad?
>>319884694
>publishers put good games on PC
>people buy them
>publishers put bad games on PC
>people don't buy them
I agree OP, why even bother putting a bad game on PC?
>>319885710
>>319885668
I could be wrong but I don't really see anything with the FFXIII selling well and steady in the near future. Sure, more sells will come to it, but I doubt it's gonna be anything spectacular in those terms. That brand is kind of poison.
>>319885883
Didnt that game sell shit on everything it was released on?
>>319885886
Not to mention the other FF games released on steam sale similarily and yet square keeps cranking them out.
Sega ports sold crappy according to that site, yet they are porting games over that used to be exclusives now. That cant be cheap.
>>319884694
Acting tsundere is the best way to get games.
>>319884694
If they did a simultaneous release, maybe they could have converted some of the hype-money (aka advertising) they burned into sales on Steam/PC
That said, this one is a much better PC-port than the last two. Both graphically and compatibility-wise.
>>319885883
>uses steam as the last resort for the company
>releases a niche game
>it sells around as much units as the console version sold
Wew, lad.
>>319885883
>Jap dev ports game to PS Vita
>No one buys it
>Goes bankrupt 5 months later.
>>319886053
To be fair, everyone who knew about Umihara Kawase could already play the old, original version on emulator, without nonsensical changes made to it, and for free. It appeared at 2 GDQs so it wasn't exactly unknown anymore.
>>319884694
Make a good game, people will buy it.
Nobody cares about about weeb shit like that.
>>319884694
>bad game with no marketing doesn't sell well on a platform over a year after release on other platforms
Color me fucking surprised
>console owners are the reason why two sequels to that abomination called FF13 exists
>complain why PC users don't support it
>>319884694
because the game is shit?
i hate games where the main character is just a boring blank slate with no emotion
>>319885576
Sure, sure.
>Still outsold SC
No justice
>>319885908
I suggest you take a look at the sales percentages between any ONE console and PC for same-game release. Especially a GOOD game.
Even games released simultaneously on the all-but-defunct PS3 or 360 and the PC shows the PC making an average of 10% of the sales the single console version does.
>>319886443
Xseed made huge bank with the first trails on steam. They literally don't have anything to complain about even if SC only sold 10k copies on steam.
The game is old, and not like classic old. Everybody who wanted to buy it, already did. Though I bought it again, most people who play games are poor, which is why they need to get games to fill their time, but they pirate and sit at home waiting for momma to bring them food.
>>319886396
I own multiple devices the game is on and haven't even bothered pirating
I think the people at fault are stupid ones
Similarly I have a ps3 and never played uncharted, umad soniponies?
>>319884694
>Already made more than Dragon Quest Heroes
Ahahaha
>>319886396
FF13 is one of those weird games where the GAME was good but the entire basic design structure was total rubbish.
>>319884694
You mean game that came out on PC only two days ago?
>>319884886
No game with gameplay 98% stripped down from its predecessors is good. That's not a game my friend its a visual novel with two combat sequences and a huge hallway.
Also lightning is a shit character.
>>319886619
This is some retarded statement and you know it.
>>319886654
But the game wasn't good. Uninteresting gameplay, uninteresting locations, stupid story (though, yeah, FF...), mostly shit characters (though, yeah, FF...).
>>319885879
I don't even mind because it's just plain convenient to have everything in one place without having to emulate or hook up consoles. I just download it through Steam and play. I'll even re-buy games for convenience when they hit decent discounts.
It's about the long term. Steam will support the game indefinitely until Gaben consumes the sun. PS3 and Xbox 360 were unceremoniously dropped and those RROD consoles will be thrown out instead of fixed. Not to mention the used game market having FFXIII as cheap as $10 pre-owned. They aren't seeing any more money out of a console version. PC opens to new audiences plus people who will discover video games 10 years from now.
FF13 + two sequels in just a year is just too much. Assassins Creed sales are dying for releasing one game every year and even two games around the same time last year. Not to mention that everyone who cared about FF13 already played it.
>>319886619
FF13 garbage shouldn't be outselling anything
Maybe because anyone that wanted to play it already did a long time ago?
Plus I doubt they put too many resources in these ports, the payoff should be pretty much assured with few sales.
>>319885883
>cashgrab sells like shit
>>319886905
also, building up a fanbase. yeah, 7 and 8 were on pc but whoever started playing games in the last generation or two doesn't know that most likely., this way you're laying down the groundwork for future releases because, let's face, buying a console IS an obstacle if you want to play a specific game and you already have a modern pc on the side. why not tape that audience as well?
>>319886845
>uninteresting gameplay
Gameplay is the only thing that made the game even somehow bearable.
Rest is true though. The characters are absolute shit. I pretty much hated all of them except for Fang. I don't understand people who idolize Lightning.
>>319884694
It's nothing shocking. Compare original XIII-2 and LR consoles sales to original XIII sales. There was a sharp decline as well.
People see that its the third in the trilogy and dont bother since the ports for the first two games are absolutely horrendous.
>>319886836
No, Trails is a niche JRPG in the first place. They sold like over 100k copies of trails just for rereleasing it. They literally deserve no money for SC just for getting so much cash for the first one.
>>319887198
And apparently this one is pretty damn good, with 60 fps constantly and actual options.
>>319886645
Nah not really. Pretty cool series with good mp.
>>319886645
Nice blogpost, dumb forgposter
>>>/r9k/
>>319884771
>Gen 7 lasted 8 years
>Longest gen of video gaming, Ever.
>8 years of nothing but Lightning and her shit festival extravaganza
>There are kids that grew up (8->15 & 10->17) believing Lightning and her games represent FF as a whole
>They will become nostalgic on her games and swear on their quality
It's the perfect formula to manufacture future Hitlers.
>Port a game to PC that costs nothing to do
>Prints free money
Why not?
>>319885673
This. It's not hard to grasp.
It only sold copies at all because the name Final Fantasy is on it. Why the worst Final Fantasy deserved two sequels? Only Toriyama knows.
>>319886551
This is a myth. PC gaming has been more profitable than consoles for years now. Also, "AAA" trash on consoles is being annihilated by simple humble indie games on PC. More and more people are abandoning their consoles and switching to PC. Enjoy your consoles while you still can, they won't be around much longer.
>>319887391
But it does cost, anon. Ports don't happen through magic. Question is whether it's worth it financially to port or not.
You console babies don't understand that once something is on Steam it generate revenue for life.
Games usually have a weaker start on PC, especially old ports like these, but their longevity is absurdly higher because they don't become obsolete like consoles do.
Take Ace Combat for example. If 4, 5, 6 and Zero were on PC they'd be selling well right now despite being a decade old because of the hype being generated by AC7 and the fact that compatibility between decade old games isn't an issue. But because those games are locked away in terribly outdated platforms Bamco isn't seeing a dime of the potential money they could be making.
This is why companies keep porting old stuff to Steam. Once you get like 10 games there, even if they are just old ports, they will keep generating revenue for a long time, even if each individual game is just generating a little. And, of course, if your game it really good then it doesn't matter how old the port is, it can sell really well. See Valkyria Chronicles.
>>319884694
>implying shit games will sell on PC
>>319887472
+1 upvote
This is what happens when you make a sequel to an RPG that's so boring that nobody finished it.
>>319887209
>rereleasing
I like how people conveniently ignore the translation like it was available years ago.
By your logic you aren't allowed to continue working or making more money once you got paid once because it's apparently "too much" for you.
>Final Fintasy
Literally what?
>>319887490
It's all a part of Square's pre-existing PC/mobile dev staff. There's no special budget for these kinds of releases.
Also, these types of titles don't have big launches. Their sales are gradual with time, like most PC/mobile releases are.
>publishers keep on putting their games on PC
>PC gamers refuse to buy them
>publishers keep on putting their games on PC
>PC gamers refuse to buy them
>this happens for literally years
>no end in sight, in fact ports get released more frequently
I guess the publishers just hate money.
I mean there's no way that porting games is profitable right?
>>319887532
Valkyria Chronicles did extremely well because it was sensibly priced. I really wonder if NIS learned from SEGA or whether they'll tank Disgaea by pricing it something crazy.
>>319887490
Estimates on other, past ports run the gambit of $200k to $600k. To be fair, a port needs to sell its cost in currency, back in units.
500k units sold on pc is a very feasible sum, and it is more profitable cause it cuts out the middle man.
>>319884694
It's the Bad Games Circle. Wait for it to go into "now that the dust has settled" mode, aka it released at least 4 hours prior AND it costs less than 15 bucks, and people will call it "comfy" instead of "bad" and will buy it like madmen
>>319885534
It must have been pretty cheap to make though. It reuses the engine and many assets from FF13.
>>319887751
>I have no idea what Im talking about
>>319885607
Aka sane people
>>319884694
I bought it.
>>319887743
How much do you think it should cost? I think ideally it should be no more than $10, considering how old it is and that it is terribly outdated compared to the newer games.
>>319887721
Yet they keep porting, great logic kid
>>319887130
>I don't understand people who idolize Lightning.
I haven't played the games yet, but she acts stoic - right? Maybe they like that about her.
>>319884694
If you put a game in pc, this will be still selling in the next ten years. PC is an active community in all of its parts, console peasants only care about fashion.
I hope they don't use this as basis to not bring FFXV to PC.
>>319887751
Did you know that 85% of all statistics are made up on the spot?
>>319885883
>Jap dev ports game to PC
>is utterly garbage
>buh muh dev
>>319887574
>>implying shit games will sell on PC
(I actually really liked ff13 and 13-2)
Whats wrong with me, /v/?
>>319887875
$15 tops and that's already pushing it.
>>319884694
Okay it doesn't seem to have sold a lot, but even at this point with those numbers its made over 300,000 bucks. How much do you it cost them to port?Honest question, I know nothing about ports
238,000 dollars for probably little effort
Free money
>>319886396
>console owners are the reason why two sequels to that abomination called FF13 exists
More like they've spent too much money on the fucking engine and needed to get back the investment.
>>319887751
>run the gambit
>gambit
>cause
>cause
I... I don't... is this the standard of education today?
>>319887130
>I don't understand people who idolize Lightning.
It's because she's hot. Why does there have to be some deeper meaning?
>>319887375
XIII-2 and Lightning Returns were great though.
>>319888075
They are good games, tho. Linearity and "this is not my Final Fantasy" aside.
>>319886396
Reason why 13-2 and LR exist is actually because 14 flopped and they needed some quick money.
>>319887814
Google past examples; Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma and such to see the cost of making ports. It's cheap, just not what the children on this board believe.
And since we're working the principle that they want to make money back the money they invested into porting.....
>>319887914
My numbers were very reserved and with in the ballpark. Google is right fucking there anon. I know taking 5 minutes of your time is 4minutes and 50seconds more than your attention allows, but please understand.
>>319884694
>Make a shitty port of a years old game with always-online DRM
>Surprised when people don't buy it
>>319887901
How old are you?
>>319888258
The game doesn't have always-online DRM, what the fuck are you talking about?
>Go on FFXIII page on Steam
>"Not only is Lightning a high-tier waifu, Fang is also very good. An excellent game for people with discerning tastes."
I don't have to buy the game a developer wishes to make. If a dev makes a game I'm not interested in, I won't buy it.
It's that simple.
>>319884694
>Final fantasy
>relevant anymore
ya nah. Even their new games are an admittance that their old formula is over now, theres nothing that great about it and its barely fun to a few niche groups. One of the ONLY reasons for playing a jrpg, the story, was shit on and turned into an embarrassing strong female horse shit story.
>>319887886
literally the point of my post.
great comprehension.
>>319888138
>no ass
>no hips
>hot
>>319884694
>final fantasy
>good
that's the thing. we don't buy SHIT on our platform. we have a choice in what to buy.
pc gaming is dead, steam probably pays them to port
>>319884694
>Final Fantasy
>>319888398
she has good armpits.
Pits are patrician, assplebs and titkids just don't get it.
>>319888398
>everyone must be attracted to the same things as me!
>>319888404
>we
>>319884694
>didn't even bother to change the "PLEASE DON'T TURN OFF YOUR PS3" message
port costed them 0 dollardos, sales in Steam are more than enough for them to get profits
>>319884694
because most weeaboos already have a ps4.
>>319885534
Considering how horrible FFXIII actually is, 400k is a miracle from God.
This series is a walking corpse, the strength of the name is all that remains.
>still more than kiseki sc
Steamtards truly don't have a taste.
>>319887324
doubtful, most games soniponies hype are mediocre as fuck and only hailed because muh exclusive
that being said inFamous was pretty good, too bad it ran like shit
>>319887365
kekkek
>>319888203
An awful first instalment killed interest and had a large impact on subsequent release momentum.
>>319884694
It cost them way less to port a game than to make one from scratch.
I bet that part of their master plan is to take the work they did porting the game over to PC, and then use part of that work to make a "remaster" version for PS4/XB1 (which are more like PCs than the PS3 was). And then after that we might even get a remaster version of the game on PC too.
>there are people who will buy FF13 and all its sequels 5 times in their lifetime
>>319884694
Because they're already developed on the PC and it's easy money you fucking moron. It's not like a shitty console where you have to participate in company rivalries and release dates.
>>319887721
You forget the part where Square Enix has been porting one game every 2 weeks for several months.
>>319888550
>we
yeah. we.
it's a pronoun to symbolize two or more people in the possessive.
>>319885883
That's a shame :(
It kinda infuriates me how stupid moeshit sells a fuckton more than proper games.
>>319887721
PC is probably better for long term revenue. Of course, I mean during Steam sales.
>>319888539
>>319888514
>not being attracted to ass and hips
I can understand making less of an emphasize on life but don't neglect hometown.
>>319888678
Well no shit, I'm not arguing that. The first XIII game was not so good.
They already made the porting costs 4 times back with that alone. At least they're optimizing their porting team and keeping them warm for the next big releases.
I can't wait for the bitch tears when they announce the PC version of KH3 and FFXV
>>319888398
What, you dislike hugging skeletons or something?
The pleasure of holding that petite bony girl is where it's at.
>>319884694
I'd buy the entire FF13 series on PC if each game weren't 50 gigs to download.
>>319888721
I literally bought FF 13 last christmas and have yet to play it. FF 13-2 and Lightning Returns are on my wish list, and I know I'm going to buy them, eventually.
Yet here I am, shit posting about how much they sucked as games. Even shitty games have a value to dollar ratio, I'd be hard pressed to pass them up for under $10.
The secret to successful jap releases on Steam is probably huge doses of moe with a tad of good gameplay on the side.
Also I believe this release window is fucking up every new release. There's the current monster Fallout 4 hogging all the sales, and people are probably holding onto their wallets waiting for the winter deals.
>>319889376
Pic related is my evidence
>>319885120
kek
>>319889464
>The secret to successful jap releases on Steam is probably huge doses of moe with a tad of good gameplay on the side.
Playing pirated XIII now. Going to pirate XIII-2 and LR eventually too and there is nothing you can do to stop me.
Knowing I got it for free makes the game even more enjoyable because I don't constantly sperg out looking for flaws trying to justify my spent money.
>>319887857
more like jewish people
>>319885007
Shit taste confirmed. FF 13 is one of the worst games I ever played
>>319889528
That game only sold so well because at the time there were shit for Jap games on steam. If it sold today it wouldn't have gotten nearly as much attention and sales as it did back in 2010.
>>319884694
maybe because everyone already bought the freaking game on their ps4 or xbone console and dont need a second copy of a 2 year old game
I heard nothing but how much Final Fantasy 13 sucks ass from console gamers who will usually shill every exclusive they manage to get.
Why would I bother buying this turd after hearing nothing but how much it sucks? And after hearing that it's a shitty PC port that doesn't even support 16:10 and has to be closed from the file menu? lol
When Capcom releases a good PC port of an actual good game -- Dragon's Dogma -- next month, and it sells like fucking hotcakes, let's revisit this conversation.
>>319889903
>When Capcom releases a good PC port of an actual good game -- Dragon's Dogma -- next month, and it sells like fucking hotcakes, let's revisit this conversation.
Wishful thinking, but I hope you're right.
>>319888306
Yes it does, dumbass. It forces you to enable Steam Cloud and then uses it to make sure you're online. If you're offline or don't have Cloud turned on the game won't even start.
>>319890016
You just fabricated that.
>>319889903
Lightning Returns =/= XIII
Hey, anyone that played this on console, I have a question.
Are the DLC items/rewards whatever really overpowered? I don't want to use them if they are practically cheat items.
Should I enable them or not?
>>319889903
each port was subsequently better, though. they even added retroactively some shit to 13.
>>319890139
Oh darn, you got me. That's why there's literally thousands of posts on the Steam forums bitching about it.
>>319884694
>a 2 year old shit game with a shit port
>15k copies
>not selling
>>319885576
Ya
Only flaw is it was tied to a shit trilogy.
The groundwork was out for a much better game
OP is just mad about losing his waifu to the Master Race
>>319890009
Believe it, brother.
>>319890273
Hey, don't beat yourself up too much. It's not your fault you got caught, I'm just smarter than you.
>>319890489
Here, I'll save you the next few posts and cut to what your final argument will be.
>>319890210
lol
Okay, it's JRPG trash that's a little different from the other JRPG trash. It'll probably pick up sales when the price drops under 10 dollars where it belongs.
Lightning returns is great, especially compared to the other ones
But you must play the other 2 games to understand the lore/mythology, which i like also
>>319890571
What are you implying?
>>319884694
You console users don't realize that there is hardly any cost to ports. Console level sales aren't needed because there aren't any upfront costs other than the cost of a port which is practically peanuts. It's practically free money to port to PC. Also PC sales aren't quite as heavily front-loaded, if it's a good game it can continue selling decently on sales for years after the port.
>>319884694
PC gamers play the same handful of games. Mainly MOBA, F2P and shootan garbage with some FOTM sprinkled here and there.
PC gamers = cancer
>>319890656
That you're retarded.
>>319890009
>>319890458
I'm betting it'll sell like 20k copies.
>>319890731
That's obviously false.
>>319890790
Post toblerones
>>319890690
I mostly play superior versions of the multiplats and some pc centric games
Also got a 360/ps3/wii u
U mad son?
>>319890690
call of duty and bloodborne is better?
>>319884758
>see Valkyria Chronicles
>$20 (most of the time on sale at $10 and even $5)
>Well known PS franchise with a brand name to support it
>over 1 year in the steam store
>huge steam userbase of over 120 million users
>compatible with toasters
>only 500k
>selling well
Sold over 1 million on the PS3 with far, far worst marketing conditions.
Instead of wasting time with pc ports, if sega focused on the new Blue Revolution game instead they'd make a lot more profit in the long run.
Quick cash grabs won't keep your gaming business alive.
>>319891173
So why are still doing that for many years, dumbass?
>>319891173
Most people who were interested in that game already played it on ps3, no reason to buy it on pc
>>319891173
You forget that porting games to the PC cost next to nothing since the games are made on PC in the first place and only have to change a few dozen lines of coding.
Plus SEGA said they were pleased with the PC sales, and this is SEGA we're talking about. If a company says they are pleased with the sales of a game, it doesnt matter if it sold 10 copies or 10 million, it means it sold well for them.
Oh no, the remaster of a 2013 shit game is selling poorly in the PC! Ignore this new market, we are doomed.
>>319885879
If they were porting SNES games more people would be buying them. Most of the older FF games on Steam are mobile ports that look worse than many free mobile games.
*releases crummy port of marginal 2 year old jrpg right after fallout 4 and blops3 come out, just days after the witcher 3 finally hits $30, but like two weeks before the Steam winter sale*
huh... what... nobody's buying the game?
>>319891173
>getting effortless millions of $ out steamfags was a waste of time
Sure thing buddy
People seem to forget that the margins on PC are a lot higher than what they are on consoles and typically PC sales are evergreen compared to the front loaded sales on console.
For the foreseeable future, the majority of games will continue to sell more copies on console but the overall difference in revenue made between consoles & PC will continue to shrink.
>>319891173
If it sold 1 million copies on ps3 then why are the sequels on a handheld?
its been on sale for two days during a time where everyone is waiting for the christmas sale in a week
>>319891173
>Sold over 1 million on the PS3
>source: vgchartz
>>319886751
>98% stripped down
this cant be real
like not even a shitpost would make a lie this poor, come the fuck on
>>319887532
If a port is good and the game is fun eventually 10,000 normies will write good reviews for the game on steam and more people will buy it
>Playstation gets exclusives
>Nobody buys them
Why even bother?
>>319884694
If only 13-2 wasn't a shit port I'd be able to finish it. then buy this game.
If this was on sale for $2 I would buy it in a heartbeat. Fucking overpriced shitty games
>>319891173
>6 year old game selling 500k in 2014/2015
>not selling well
Are you legitimately retarded?
>>319884694
>14,000 copies sold in only one day for a 2 year late port with no marketing
>implying this is bad
Wait to see how much it's sold by the end of the year. It will probably be close to 100,000 copies sold desu.
Remember that steamspy numbers take 1-2 weeks to fully update.
Thank you for reading.
I still need to beat XIII-2 before I even play Lightning Returns. I might pick it up if there is a decent sale, however.
>>319884694
Shut the fuck up faggot, the one I bought wasn't the worst thing ever for what I paid but it runs like complete ass and square has yet to fix it
>>319884694
PC ports are cashgrabs when a publisher wants to make extra money by porting a game with near-zero effort because PC gamers with inferiority complexes will eat it up without a second thought.
>>319884694
That game sucks, PC fanbase gets excited for any old shit huh?
>There are people on /v/ that keep saying that New Vegas is shit
>>319893231
New Vegas is steam only while F3 was released with GFWL.
>>319893231
But its true anon
>>319893231
They are shit
The combat in fallout has to be the worst of all AAA games.
This thread is full of people who obviously never played LR but just regurgitated opinions they heard from reddit/neogaf that the game is bad
Anyway I don't think anyone expected LR to sell well, I'm more concerned about Xrd selling like shit meaning Revelator never ever
How is the Lightning Returns port?
FFXIII runs at 20-40 FPS, is unplayable at 1080p because the essential enemy scan text doesn't show up and now the game won't even recognize my gamepad anymore since I got a new mouse, forcing me to play some weird Frankenstein's keyboard and mouse setup.
Apparently FFXIII-2 is even worse on PC.
>>319884694
porting a game to PC is pretty easy and cheap.
They probably made a profit even with those low sales.
Stop fucking using Steamspy mere days after release you dumbass.
>>319890628
LR is a Valkyrie Profile game that had Lightning slapped on it halfway through development.
>>319893706
You are not even trying to make a believable troll attempt. Way too heavy-handed.
When in doubt, avoid the heavy-handed.
>>319893505
Well lets see
-I played the demo on console, which was shit
-I watched gameplay footage of later game areas, which made it seem like the demo except with the corridors replaced with gigantic, completely empty, DMC2 tier areas.
-I played the previous two games in the series nearly to completion, they were both garbage.
Forgive me for not spending money on this game and making an assumption that is most likely correct
>>319893706
>dragon dildo
What's the point of making dildoes no human on earth was ever able to fit inside them?
>>319884886
I don't get this meme with people saying LR is bad. The story, yes, but the gameplay is top notch. But then I remembered that most people that shit on XIII haven't even touched it.
>>319893803
Metal Gear and final fantasy threads were always super comfy on /v/ until you crying faggots joined in with your hand me downs. Your community is absolutely terrible, I'm not even trolling
>>319891173
>120 million user base
How many out of that are dead accounts/people, smurfs, and dota 2, csgo and only accounts?
At most, 10 million are active at the same time and 2 million out of that are dota2/csgo fags.
>>319893231
To be 100% hones, Fallout 3 was sold with GFWL on launch, steam version was digital only as far as I remember.
Playstation and XBox Devkits are just PCs so I can't imagine getting games ported to PC would be that hard. Maybe the ones that were very finely optimized on one of the systems (Like anything Naughty Dog has made for the PS3) might be a bit trickier, but it's probably very easy money overall.
>>319894040
not him but hat number is active accounts from the past few months
I'm waiting for it to go cheaper desu. Xmas sales are coming, and my money is going there.
>Hey guys, we've been console only for 2 decades, but maybe we'll try releasing a game on PC?
>Ok, cool. Which one, how about Beloved Classic 2? Or maybe Recent Smash Hit 4?
>Well, I was actually thinking of Shitty Side Game Nobody Likes.
>Perfect, contact Valve
>>319895176
Reminds of namco bandi refusing to release the true sequels to digimon world in the west
>>319884694
this isn't a pc vs console thing
this is a game being re-released to capture more sales but pc users already knowing if subject game is shit or not based on community reaction and investigation via streaming and opinion filled forums. Not only that, most developers feel they need to rerelease said game with minimal changes and charge the original price or even more by tacking on some worthless cosmetics or updates and then delivering on none or a minimal amount and calling it a failure because we didn't fall for it. Then they even expect console users to rebuy the game for PC even though the vast majority of them won't because it is more difficult to justify buying the same game again.
Did I forget anything?
>Try to make it out that PC gamers don't buy games.
>Use one of the worst games ever as an example.
>Attribute this to PC gamers being cheap and not to it being Final Fantasy fucking 13.
This is either god tier retardation, or flawless bait.
I already bought XIII-2 and dropped it under 10 hours in. Any 'improvements' over XIII were superficial patchwork at best, while the few things I actually enjoyed in XIII were gone. So forgive me if I'm skeptical about the third game.
>>319891173
So you're comparing the sales of a game that was new 7 years ago, and the re-release that happened a year ago, with zero previous install-base on PC, STILL managed to sell half of the console original.
50% of the profits for a port job that costed less than 1% of the actual game.
And you think that was a bad move.
Your console-only tears are absolutely delicious, m8
>>319884694
>final fantasy XIII
i didn't play any final fantasy games, start from the first game if you are going to release a series on pc
the same goes for metal gear solid 5, the reason it didn't sell on pc a lot is because people simply didn't want to start a story driven series from the latest addition
>>319888203
This guy and this fucking meme.
The sequels were as good when you take them as a whole. A small hike in gameplay variety and a huge drop in production value.
>>319891173
Shit attach rate then
>>319895176
But Square-Enix hasn't been console-only forever. They've had a long list of releases on Steam since before they started porting FF games.
And you're acting like they've only ported Lightning Returns and not also the other XIII games and everything from III to VIII.
>>319895971
Yes because Final Fantasy is the kind of series you have to play in order.
>>319896406
III to VI are shitty ports from iOS with godawful sprite reworks
emulating them is still better
>players with good taste refuse to buy shit games
I fail to see the problem.
>>319896096
>>319896484
i have zero fucking clue what they do in final fantasy, all i know is that their new game has fuckboys and tanlines in it
Test
>>319889693
quite true desu
and then the meme. If the game released this year, it would be dismissed as meme game like uddertail
>>319895971
>implying most mustard race faggots aren't just ex-console users
>implying the disgusting casual faggots who play exclusively on gaming PC aren't a minority within a minority
>>319884694
So PC master race can stick it to console peasants who already played the game years ago.
>>319886053
They would make so much money on jet set radio future
>>319884694
I mean, it's a great game but the previous two were divisive and it's releasing nearly two years after consoles. I can't blame PCbros for being wary.
>>319884694
I was interested in these ports because I played 13 on PS3 and kind of liked it for its story and characters (at least it tried to be original), but never played 13-2.
So I tried 13-2 on PC and realized that I didn't miss anything. It's fucking horrible. Yes the level design is better and more open, but they dumbed down the party and combat to a ridiculous degree. Also, story feels less focused and more hastily slapped together.
>>319884758
LR is better than Valkyria Chronicles. I like the game and all, but it's overrated.
>>319893787
Conjecture and nothing more.
And the pleb of the decade award goes to this little anon right here: >>319899196
>>319899196
>LR is better than Valkyria Chronicles.
Yea sure if the discipline is waifu dress up simulator.
LR is not even an RPG in the most remote sense of the word.
I hope 15 flops and Squeenix finally fuck off with their outdated lame old shit.
>>319891173
>Quick cash grabs won't keep your gaming business alive.
Yet you sem to protest against what is the antithesis of cash grabs.
>>319899421
Hey I said I enjoyed it. But compared to similar games it's pretty shallow and watered down.
>>319884694
because they want the right kind of games and not the shit like lightning returns
>>319899536
Fuck off shitposter. The garbs are essentially just different armor sets that actually show up on the character model, something people have been clamoring for in an FF for years. LR has combat that actually requires a bit of skill unlike Scout Rush Chronicles and deeper customization. The games biggest weakness is the story, which is a cliche unintelligible mess. But hey that applies to Valkyria Chronicles too. The only thing VC has over LR is graphics.
>>319899706
Like Undertale and Gone Home, right?
>>319899972
>encounter valid critique
>SH-SH-SHITPOSTER!!!
le boogey man. Kill yourself and take your waifu sim with you.
