This game is a fucking masterpiece.
The alternate history with all its intricate details, the fluent and fast gameplay, the fucking amazing soundtrack and the cool characters! (fucking hendrix, oh my god!) Also, the amazing voice acting, especially for ze germans (i am german and it's amazing how they got better voice actors for it than for every single game that's originally american and then german dubbed).
The final boss is a blast, with the second stage being infuriatingly hard on higher difficulties.
So how does "the old blood" compare to it?
This is literally copy and paste enemies - the game as well as hold 1,000x weapons at once - the game. AI is braindead, levels all look the same.
Fuck your retarded opinions op
>>319881465
Shorter, but just as good
>>319881809
>hold 1,000x weapons at once - the game
lol what's the fucking problem with that??
>>319881465
>barely any unique and interesting guns
>press x to pick up ammo, weapons, armor
>enemies are all the same, except for the bullet sponge shotgun enemies/giant robot suits
>boring gameplay design; fps cannot just be linear shooting anymore.
>"choice" is choosing between saving one or the other person at the beginning
i am playing through this game right now and it's so fucking bad i just want to quit. i almost threw it away when they revealed that jews are mystic technology wizards.
>>319881465
I played through the whole game of the hardest difficulty and the final boss was easily the easiest part, especially the second stage. They give you so much ammo it's a complete joke. Unload all rockets and gg
That said, it's the only game to come. Out in the last 3 years I've actually been able to enjoy. Pretty damn fun. Just got The Old Blood on sale a few weeks ago
>>319881465
i was actually just about to make a thread for this
>there are people who sacrificed fergus
shit stung but i didnt know jack shit about Wyatt
>>319882376
what? I didn't have ANY ammo at that point. I was left with only the Laserkraftwerk, knifes and a few granades before entering the room.
>>319881809
>Levels all look the same
did we play the game, because you definitely didn't
>Bridge level
>Prison level
>Warzone level
Granted the color pallet made the game look samey, but the level design changed up constantly, save for level retreads.
Also OP, Old Blood is a nice romp, at least the first half. The second half shows signs of greatness, but doesn't live up to the theme.
I thought it was pretty funand im a dumb nigger who played it on an xbox360
>>319882304
>barely any unique and interesting guns
loved all the guns, a good mix between old school wolfenstein and fictional space nazi technology. Every weapon and firemode had its purpose. They all felt really powerful when used correctly.
>press x to pick up ammo, weapons, armor
I think this added to the challenge of it, and also gave the developers the opportunity to place items in places where you can't walk over
>enemies are all the same, except for the bullet sponge shotgun enemies/giant robot suits
I simply didn't think so, there was a good variety with the dogs and the different heavy soldier versions as well as the big robots
>boring gameplay design; fps cannot just be linear shooting anymore.
I expected a linear shooter which gives me "freedom of gameplay" in the way that I can approach combat situations in different ways and that's what I got. But I loved crysis 2 as well, so...
>"choice" is choosing between saving one or the other person at the beginning
That was a little weak, it kind of seems like an odd decision to give you a choice ONCE and every other aspect of the game plays out in such a linear fashion
>>319882376
Pretty damn fun game also
>If you go to sleep on the couch un the uppest level, you will play the first level of the first wolfenstein
>>319882304
If you play with a controller you are frankly retarded. Pressing E to pick things up is a non issue
>get to the part where I have to kill a giant robot dog to save some faggot in the hanger of the resistance
>died a whole bunch of times
>all of a sudden the game bugged out and the mutt completely ignored me
I feel pretty damn casual, but how the fuck am I suppose to kill that robot mutt? I guess I am suppose to slow him down by crawling through the small gaps but it still catches up to me way too quickly
>>319883771
>I feel pretty damn casual, but how the fuck am I suppose to kill that robot mutt? I guess I am suppose to slow him down by crawling through the small gaps but it still catches up to me way too quickly
LOL that bug happened to me to, after dying the first time though. I just ignored it and went on with the game.
>>319883771
rifle grenades and laser of kraut doom
>>319883172
sorry, i don't think generic shotgun/assault rifle/pistol and slowly upgrading them is fine in a linear fps in this year.
there are literally 4 enemy types: dogs, soldiers, heavy soldiers, and big soldiers.
>freedom of gameplay
occasionally you can use stealth, otherwise game forces you out of it and you have to do shooting.
wolfenstein is fucking mediocre and all you have to see is what other fps are doing in order to innovate the genre.
>>319883373
i chose the mistake of playing on console, because it only cost me $8 to get both wolfenstein TNO and old blood together on xbone. still is dumb game design. if you want me to press x to pick up the gold items or secrets, that is fine, but picking up ammo is a fucking nuisance and you have to sometimes be standing over it in just a right way to do it without looking at it.
>>319882304
>>press x to pick up ammo, weapons, armor
I love picking up 100 points of armor when Im at 95/100!
>>319882304
>i almost threw it away when they revealed that jews are mystic technology wizards.
That sounds rad thou
>>319884306
I meant the "freedom of gameplay" thing in another way: the stealth option is just one part of it. As an example, there's a scene in the submarine with a green room in which stealth is not possible. But it allows you to maneuver in various directions through the room and pick your path and ideal weapons to overcome the challenge. This is not something present in call of duty for example where you can't do something like "run through the area and try to attack them from behind". I'm talking about a certain freedom to approach combat situations.
>>319882629
The bridge level was fucking amazing. The change of pace, the PC's reaction to it at the beginning, just everything.
Great game except for the typical
>violence solves everything
I like that Uber forces you to be more stealthy, and that the stealth is p.fun though nothing special.
But holy shit chapter 10 and that water vespa controlling.
pls never again
>>319884571
It's alright, just a jew society where they build technology as far as they can for the sake of it. Or to be as close as they can to "god".
Still doesn't sit right with me though.
I had a blast with TNO, it's one of the few that I bothered to 100% on Steam. There was such a good variety of levels that it just never really got old, and the gunplay and design of the combat areas were both quite good.
>>319882459
Wyatt is lame compared to Fergus but doing his route gets you the single best NPC in the entire game.
>>319885218
Well to me it was something new, and I thought of it more as something novel then getting annoyed by it. You cant have nazis without jews I guess, and its a bit ironic that the nazis are only able to win the war thanks to the jews.
>>319884901
>violence solves everything
Except that in the end everything you do is pointless since BJ died.
And what the fuck did you expect, diplomacy with the Nazis?
>>319885843
My jaw dropped to the floor and I was in tears when I realized who he is supposed to be shortly before the nazis kick in the door.
>>319881465
It was pretty groovy.
die bleu U-Boat best track, man
>>319884901
>the train car maneuvering
>the final carraige where you can jump down spraying shotty rounds like a badass
Bridge level so good.
Favorite moment wascrazy girl with the twitchy eye gets 19 kills with just some old luger's because she knew mathmatically that it was her time to die.
>>319881465
I liked it a lot, but I wouldn't call it a masterpiece. RTCW is still the best Wolfenstein game.
As far as the old blood goes it's just as good as the base game. Once you get past the forced stealth in the beginning it gets good.
>>319886032
havent done a wyatt run.
who you talking about?
>>319886032
>This time, it's gonna be loud
Best part of the entire story
>>319881465
whats with all of the posts calling this the best game ever recently?
>>319886160
Jimi son
>>319886160
Theres a character called J in a Wyatt run, he's actually Jimi Hendrix and he dies playing his famous cover of the US anthem.
>>319886339
oh my holy fucking shit.
>>319886160
The character "J". It's worth doing a wyatt run for him, becausehe's revealed to be the alternate reality JIMI FUCKING HENDRIX
>>319886160
It'sJimi Hendrix
You can get high and play guitar with him, and then during the attack on the base hedies while blasting a rock version of the Star Spangled Banner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RVVHXdMmog
>>319882271
Dude's used to his cawadoody, the poor bastard
Meh. Jimi hendrix is overrated.
What's with the Wolfenstein shilling today, you guys do realize TNO released like a year ago right?
>>319886339
>>319886430
>>319886640
>>319886712
fuck you guys, i gotta do a wyatt run.
who replaces him in the fergus timeline?
anyone important?
>>319886738
yeah I just ordered the limited LP where all the 60s songs from this game are on. For a price as high as DER MOND, but I just had to have it
>>319882459
>Fergus wants you to choose him because he's already lived his life and as he said, "people die in a war"
>You don't respect his last wish
mate
>>319886887
it could be that some people that like the game want to talk about it
not everything's a marketing ploy
i mean i never finished it since that level climbing the globe after that sick guy suicide bombed the museum was too hard for me, but it was an alright game
>>319886917
Wyatt gets J, Fergus gets autism-chan, whatever her name is. Tekla?
>>319886917
Some Asperger girl named Tekla. Nothing wrong about her and she's an interesting character too but she doesnt beat J.
>>319886917
A female version of Tesla. It's stupid.
>polacks save the world from the nazis
>>>/trash
>You get to kill nazi scum
I'm in.
I really want to like this game, but goddam it's a slog and I just want to shot space Nazis on the moon. Glad I got it on sale for $8.
>>319887065
>>319887069
tekla was a qt tough
>>319886936
his first line was "keep watch, gotta take a piss", im not letting that fucker die for a kid paratrooper
>>319887202
Theres 1 polack in the actual resistance team in TNO, the main hero is American and almost everyone else is German.
>>319887328
>almost everyone else is German.
>two people
Two out of 7 is not most
>>319887328
>the main hero is American
He's a Polish-American who can even speak Polish.
>>319887254
Fuck off communist
>>319884306
>all you have to see is what other fps are doing in order to innovate the genre.
And not all of us enjoy the way these devs are "innovating" (read: ruining) the genre. TNO is exactly what we wanted. A traditional, back to basics FPS with meaty, well-crafted gameplay. The only real problems with it are the rarity of boss fights and how short it is.
>still no wolfenstein style game where you kill isis instead of nazis
>>319887665
Not really a commie, but hey, at least some dickhead dislikes me.
>>319887298
>im not letting that fucker die for a kid paratrooper
>Letting a kid spend 16 years as a brain in a jar
>Fergus himself calls you out on your bad decision
>>319887784
So does Wyatt you stupid fuck. Either one thinks you should have saved the other.
>>319887784
I mean, no matter who you pick one of them spends 16 years as a brain in a jar and the other one calls you out on your bad decision, so that's not really an argument for either side.
Each of them ultimately thinks you should've saved the other one and goes full asshole mode at least once in their story.
>>319887971
Wyatt's argument isn't as rational as Fergus. Wyatt basically tells you you should've saved Fergus because he had more experience/ Fergus tells you you should've saved Wyatt because he was younger and full of promise. Either way the resistance is basically at the same point 16 years later, so why wouldn't you choose the guy that can carry on the fight for longer ?
Also
>Not respecting Fergus enough to do what he wants you to
>mfw Germany
>>319888170
>Letting some kid on his first mission run the resistance instead of a battle hardened veteran that actually knows his shit
This actually shows how utterly useless the resistance is if a kid like Wyatt was chosen to lead it for 16 years.
>>319886430
>Jimi
I completely fucking missed this somehow. That's so good.
>>319881465
Not enough giant robot bosses
>>319888475
>yfw LONDON MONITOR
>>319888475
The monitor was lame. And really cheap on uber.
>>319888667
Op here, I also found the monitor quite lame. Too many options for hiding, the thing was sluggish and each of its attacks took too long to activate. It was impressive, but gameplay wise a little disappointing. They could have EASILY fixed it by making its attack animations much faster on harder difficulties (like 2 seconds before he fires his main laser blast instead of 5 or six)
>>319888878
Monitor was scary shit at first, then i leaned quickly that the corners of the underground were essentially safzones from the cannon/rockets
>>319889107
Exactly. The second stage of the final boss has a much better environment, without a single safe zone, quite the contrary: The environment gets more hazardous and difficult to traverse the longer you fight, which was just brilliant, IMO.
>>319889359
Honestly, they should have just skipped the first stage. It was boring and pointless.
>>319889359
kinda went full retard in the second stage of the last fight and went duel rocket rifles and fired like a madman.
ran out of ammo in that then went full duel shotty, then finished him off with grenades and muhlazerrrr
>>319887674
Even then, the game was bloody perfect. It felt so good to pick up after endless CoDs and Battlefield shit fests.
>>319889562
seriously, this is the second time in this thread where people tell me they used rockets. I only had the weapons mentioned in this post available:
>>319882515
Was that a bug? because if that was a bug I'm going to sue the developers for almost driving me nuts.
>>319889696
believe it or not, but i picked this up after playing half of World at War and finishing The Godfather 2 gameGodfather 2 was nice, but then i saw it was made in 2009 and understood the low reviews.
>>319889891
you can get some from the crates in the first stage of the boss fight.
just scavenge that shit before jumping down to kill strauss
>>319890201
Well, it seems I was to dumb to find these crates. I found some with medipacks and granades, but that was it. Oh well, this way I can brag about beating it on UBER+
>preforms the wrong salute on the moon
>no sieg hailing when you are greeted as a superior officer
>>319890691
It's histo-sciencefictivically proven that moon nazis would have used exactly this kind of salute.
>>319881465
Old Blood's better; less annoying side characters/drama and more action, though the last boss sucks almost as bad as NO. Also, gatling MG42 is like the meatiest minigun ever.
While the gameplay was great, the writing turned out to be the best part. BJ was characterized so damn well for a guy who just shoots nazis.
I've never seen movies or games do stuff like the protagonist correcting himself when trying to speak a foreign language or thinking that buoy is a silly word.
>>319887202
More like Nazis in power leads to massive technological advancement while the Jews hoard secret tech away from the public.
>>319891227
They also had authentic accents for the germans, like austrian and bavarian. I've NEVER seen any game do this and it added so much to it if you speak german.
>>319881465
That game was fucking great. If you want more Nazi killing buy the old blood. Plus I think the old blood has better perks where you can carry a turret.
>>319881465
stop posting cod shit
>>319885218
>Still doesn't sit right with me though.
Huh? Why?
>>319891564
Well I would like to buy it, but in germany it's Geo locked so you essentially have to pirate or use VPN trickery to get it uncensored and with the original voice acting. They cut the nazi symbolism (Swastikas, etc.) out and I know that this is not essential for the game but I oppose censorship in any form.
Also, in the german version of old blood as well as new order EVERYONE speaks german. How fucking stupid is that?!
>>319891227
>Reminded me of candy
>Sweet, sweet candy
>>319891227
>I'm coming for you Nazi fucking moonman from the stars.
>Ja! Ein "hutdug"!
>One last hill to climb...
This whole game was fun. No part of this game was not fun. Why don't they just make all video games like this?
>Gets hit by a plane.
>Molested by a giant dog twice.
>Had a boulder dropped on his head.
Perfectly okay.
>Piece of shrapnel cherry-taps him on the side of the head.
Comatose for a decade.
All the stuff that happens after he comes out of the coma is explained by "brain shrapnel fuckin' with his body lol".
>>319891090
but they werent in a zero G environment.
they were just inside the fucking airlock at baggage handling.
speaking of the moon
>>319891382
we got to the moon in 69 but the nazi's have a full blown base up there in 1960?
also, cant use "muh nazi concrete" in space.
The grandparents were great.
>>319892162
They stole some of the sacred jew magics. That's how they had such advanced tech and made such incredible scientific leaps.
They didn't have all the jew magic, just some of it.
>>319892092
The sharpnel was embedded in the brain. So hard, they couldn't surgically remove it. And there was only one point in the game where they used it for handwavium.
>>319892162
By "moon nazis" I meant all moon nazis, including zero G and all other G environments.
>we got to the moon in 69 but the nazi's have a full blown base up there in 1960?
It's because of their greater cultural emphasis on technology that is implied. Still it's a bit questionable, because the real moon landing was an indirect consequence of the cold war between communism and capitalism, it acted as a prestige project in the "race to the moon". No such systemic war existed in the New Order timeline, so why would they want to go to the mun in the first place?
>>319892596
Easily defendable from anything and everything and easier to hide dirty secret projects?
>>319892596
STRONK GERMAN ENGINEERING
>itt mad stormfags that normal people dislike fucking nazis
>>319892162
>why aren't video games historically accurate???
damn, son, it's fiction
>>319892745
Well, I can't imagine a dirtier project than the genocide and they pulled that of on earth for real. As for defense, that's probably true. Also they were just fucking megalomaniacs, in the game as well as in real life. Those mega structures they show in the 1960s in game berlin, when BJ comments "One thing is true about the nazis, they're not lacking in vanity"? Those were really in planning by Albert Speer, Hitlers personal über architect.
>>319881465
>the fluent and fast gameplay
I don't get this. It hast the same basic movement speed as any modern military shooter.
People seem to be convinced it's incredibly 'old school' because you can fire two guns at the same time or something.
>>319892886
but thats not what itt means.
in fact, there's no stormfaggotry so far in the thread, fuckmong
>>319881465
The Old Blood is pretty good so far (i am at the beginning of the town). What bugged me was the beginning with all these robot mofos and you only had that pipe.
I imagined it to be more like RtCW. But every now and then I feel the game reminds one so much of it that I don't mind anymore.
Yes, the game has it's flaws but NO had an awesome script and detailed characters. Also, the hints on Blascowicz being a Jew himself and saying his polish is bad is actually quite gud. I liked all of the characters a lot.
So far, OB is "just" a shooter. Not much story so far.
But it's ok and compared to other shooters it's still refreshing.
Just noticed that the cutscene where you're about to climb the castle wall in the first level has the same melody as one of the Wolf3d tracks.
https://youtu.be/G1DRBGjvGng?t=13m42s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsg8XNFSNr4
>>319893157
I didn't say it was oldschool fast. In Doom you move with the speed of a bullets and your bullets move with the speed of light. It's not that.
It's adequately fast and absolutely fluent.
>>319893157
Op is underage, like most posters here.
what did you expect?
>>319893157
Fast doesn't mean just running speed. NWO doesn't punish you with mandatory waiting times each time you catch a couple of rounds, which generally allows to keep the fight going.
>>319893157
This. I got TNO last week and felt let down by how slow the gameplay was.
>save fergus
>mfw wyatt on the final mission
Shit got me straight on the heart
>>319893524
exactly. It was a great compromise between old arcady shooters and newer generation shooters. I hope the new doom game will have even faster movement, although my hopes are not too high after seeing the ingame footage from E3. But we'll see.
Why is the game slowing down for me? I'm on low and i'm still struggling. Got an 7850 1gb version.
I was so fucking hyped to play it and now i'm depressed
>>319881465
>60 fps cap
>masterpiece
Right back into the trash where it came from.
>>319894290
>>319893331
ah, thats right, i forgot about the shitposters on /v/
>>319894751
>criticism is shitposting
ah, that's right, i forgot about the reddit users on /v/
>>319881465
the old blood is more of the same, which is not a bad thing. Best shooter released in years imo
>>319894980
>calls out shitposters
>"gb2 reddit faggot"
nice, like clockwork
>>319881465
Not as great as RTCW though.
>>319891227
>Car on bricks in a garage at a nazi compound
>After clearing out the room you can make BJ hop in and pretend to drive it
>He makes engine noises and pretends to honk the horn
>>319896216
Try flushing the toilets in resistance HQ multiple times
who /naziwarmachine/ here?
>>319881809
Mabey you should take a break from shitposting today anon, you're trying a little to hard.
>>319892186
Agreed, though all the yelling the grandfather did from the truck during the Checkpoint mission was a bit strange if you're trying to do it stealthily. Especially during the last segment when there are two guarded outposts clearly within earshot and his yelling voice carries on forever, yet the guards never notice.
>>319891227
This.
You see so many heroes that go "woe is me, I'm too obsessed with adventure and violence" (e.g. Nathan Drake) but nothing really makes you give a shit.
There's something beautifully tragic about BJ and him ruminating over his exhausted soul and the fact that he may never find real happiness in the world, and none of it is incongruous with BJ for a propensity for explosive violence, whether it just be his creative ways to gut a Nazi or executing a man with a chainsaw.
The ironic tone augments this, and in the hands of a more indulgent or less competent writer/development team the whole thing could've fallen apart.
>>319891481
For all the time they put into the specifics, there were some little things that bothered me in a historical sense.
I believe the game implies you're found on the Baltic coast of Poland. That irked me.
I wish there was some more thought put into the yellow map of the großgermanium (which is the same in TNO and OB, btw). Like, areas the Nazis considered Nordic historically are colored differently to signify they're a part of Germany proper, and other areas show colonies and zones of interest. I was bothered a little that the Nazis directly control all of Iberia and Italy, but Scandinavia and Russia do not appear to be included.
What do you guys think?
they should have given Doom 4 to the guys who made TNO.
>>319901253
historical accuracy isn't required in fiction
>>319900713
I don't know. Personally I just found the poetic soldier thing to be a bit of a tired cliche and the inconsistency between his musings and what he actually says aloud in the game irritating.
A for effort though.
>>319902230
Frankly, they make everything hilarious. The game is practically a nazisploitation movie slightly covered for the inattentive and the contrarians that don't play games. You have a big bad badass having heartfelt monologues while killing nazis in every creative way possible, nazis on the moon, ancient jewish Iron Man armor donned by a crippled woman that aborted a child to keep her nazi K/D ratio high. And Jimi Hendrix.
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