was going to invest in a pc but after seeing this list from a video on youtube idk if its worth it
>>319863496
>Consoles
>unified platform
They're literally the exact fucking opposite of that, there are three different brands that trumpet their various exclusivities like they're supposed to be a good thing.
>>319863496
>Fragmented digital distribution
Wut.
That's like saying consoles are bad because Target doesn't always sell the Xbox game you;re looking for
>>319863496
>implying PCs are not a cheaper gaming option over time
>implying a PC can not be built better than a console with the same budget
>>319863812
it's a valid point, as a steam exclusive user I'm not playing any games that are released on Origin or u play, and I'm unable to talk to friends using those services
Of course I could just sign up and take the corporate dick, but I'd rather not
>some consolekek shill actually took the time to make this to justify wasting his money
jej
>>319863496
>>319863496
Really the PC Masterrace is a reddit meme
Just ask yourself this
Do you want to play legacy games or new ones?
The only thing PC gets these days is AAA trash and a semi-old console exclusive.
Meanwhile consoles get good exclusive, but those are kind of rare.
If you want to have the full PC experience, you need to invest about $1000 and if you want the full console experience, you need to invest buy at least a Wii U, PS4 and maybe a PS3 or 360 (you can play 360 games on the Xbone, but they mostly run worse)
>>319863496
I don't care if it's bait, I'm taking it.
PC:
>Better graphics for a price
>for a price
top kek
you can easily build(or even buy, if you're that lazy) a PC better than a ps4/xbone for the same price or cheaper
>Fragmented digital distribution
Buzzwords
>Broken games
nigga you're dumb
>No Bloodborne, No Mario
More Mario than any Nintendo console, actually, thanks to emulation allowing you to play any Nintendo game from before 2012. Wii/GC emulation does require a pretty good rig, but anything before that should run fine on any decent rig from 2012
Consoles:
>: Price / excellent value
Insert keks here
>Focus on play, not settings
On PC, you barely have to alter settings. Sometimes if the game is too high-fi you might have to lower the graphics, sometimes it starts off with bad default graphics so you turn it up to the max, easy. Sometimes you disagree with some of the graphics options, like maybe you don't like bloom or motion blur and the game has both of those, you can choose to turn them off. The focus is on actually playing on PC, too, but we get to have a choice with our graphics.
>Streamlined experience
That literally doesn't mean anything, more buzzwords
>Unified platform
THE MEMES JACK
>Triple A dev. priority
False, only from shit devs like Ubisoft. Good devs realise that console graphics shouldn't hold PC back, and allow the PC version to be better, as it naturally would.
>Unmatched exclusives
Only a Sith deals in absolutes (but seriously, bloodborne is the only good console exclusive this gen
>>319863496
nice list.
but not every point weights like the other ones:
PC's game catalog and exclusives definitely is worth a lot of "points" compared to , let's say, "streamlined experience" "focus on play, not settings"- what does "unified platform" even mean for the costumers? it just translate itself to more games and good performance so it's rendundant to state it.
price/excellent value is the best point of consoles. with 400$ you get the best gaming machine of the year for the price...but what about the next year?PC will catch up on the price. and all the accessories ( such as extra controllers or memory packs) cost more.
overall a PC is the best purchase a wealthy( first world) man can make aside for education. this wondermachine does everything and you can buy any software, the best softwares, at a reasonable price and high choice, with the option to pirate it.
.
you purchase a gaming machine and you get an office, school, design, gamedevving machine at the same time.my old PS2 is crying in a closet, my old gaming PC is now my dad's office PC.
>>319863496
>focus on play
>playing fps with a gamepad
>streamlined
>+
>>319863998
>as a steam exclusive user I'm not playing any games that are released on Origin or u play
There's no fucking point in being a "steam exclusive user" aside from the fact that Steam is a better service than either of the other two. When you buy a console you're restricted from the other services entirely, when you're on a PC the only thing keeping you from using another service is your own preference. Literally the only hassle is signing up for an additional account.
>>319863496
>consoles better overall
>made the picture on a computer and posted it on 4chan
ok son, leave now
>>319863496
>4K, 144hz, Multiscreen
>costs more than a fucking car
pc is truly a superior platform
>>319863998
So from what I gather, you think the platform is "fragmented" because you're lazy and retarded.
>>319864397
No, no you don't. This is a meme that Bloodborne superfans have tried to trick you into believing.
These days, a good PC can cost $500, or even less. I built mine in 2012 with that amount of money, and it could run pretty much anything on high graphics. Prices are lower now, but the newer things are probably around the same price/value range.
>>319863998
>steam exclusive user
...
>>319863496
>Having multiple digital outlets is a bad thing
>Having a monopoly is a good thing
>>319864640
>These days, a good PC can cost $500, or even less
>good PC
>$500
Pick one, reddit
Have fun playing games on medium at 900p. What's the fucking point, just buy a PS4.
If you aren't willing to invest AT LEAST $800, don't even bother
Good mods will slow your games down to >=30, can't max out games at 1080p, or even 900p, without running at sub/30fps, can't use high refreshrate monitors since you have to run your games on low 720p, can't use mutli monitors for anything besides just desktop applications
What is this magical GPU/CPU that will do stuff in the OP? A refurbished one? A used one?
>>319864541
>>319864626
>>319864643
All this Stockholm syndrome
>>319864876
>Buy a PS4 and play 720 30fps
I don't even play games and I can tell that's a bad deal
>>319864876
>$500
>900p
I can tell that you have no experience with PC gaming whatsoever and are just spouting memes that you see in those blue-pilled PS4/Xbone general threads. Fuck off and learn before you say something.
>>319865027
epic
Not even worth responding to anymore.
Have fun shilling to your fat jew overlord.
I built a PC and I prefer consoles.
The reasons are: physical copies, exclusives, not playing catch-up with ports and a better fighting game community.
It's just a preference, no need for shit-flinging constantly.
>>319863496
> no Bloodborne
boy, lemme just list the 4000 PC exclusives really quick
>no Mario
you were saying?
PC probably has MORE Mario than Nintendo consoles do!
>>319864396
Kek
>>319865101
Who am I shilling for? I just told you I don't even play games.
>>319865185
where the fuck you think you are
>>319863496
>no Bloodborne
one game
>no mario
untrue
plus if you liked Strategy games Windows and Linux are pretty much your only options
The fps Drops during bloodborne summons and pvp are pretty harsh
But why would I even want to play video games any more when it's the age of PewDiePie?
>>319863998
>as a steam exclusive user
Gabe Newell isn't holding a gun up to your head. You're allowed to have an Steam account AND an Origin account, or a Gog account, or whatever else you want.
This again...
If you have the money to buy a PC, but I mean THE PC, then go, buy it.
This comes from me, a guy who never played on PC, but recognize that if you can build a doomsday machine, youre gonna be amazed.
If you already own the current consoles, it migthy not be so interesting, unless you play the multi on Master Race and exclusives on consoles.
By the end of the day all it matters is how much you are ready to spend.
>>319865606
but then I would have to install things!!!!
>>319864397
I play tetris and enjoy my self. I play games for because i enjoy them. Pc is by far a best gaming cho
See here way
>>319864396
And not a hype slave. If i can play a new game i play it and if no pc version then ladii di daa, i don't play it. Nothing happens if i don't play bloodborn.
>>319864876
You would actually just lower AA or whatever other effect before resolution.
>>319863998
>>319865606 (You)
In fact,
>Of course I could just sign up and take the corporate dick, but I'd rather not
I have no idea how you decided that signing up for anything other than Steam means you're "taking corporate dick." Seems like the opposite to me.
>>319863496
PC:
Better graphics really aren't hard to get.
You can use any digital distribution but most shit is on Steam.
Broken games are rare and if they are worth a damn a fan patch usually comes out. Console broken games (god damn Monster Rancher Evo) can't be fixed unless they officially patch it.
Starve the console beast and those exclusives will eventually have to move over, but a console isn't worth it for a couple games in my opinion.
Console:
Consoles do not have better value. If you don't have all day to waste gaming its nice to get the best when you do. Once past the entry barrier upgrading along the way is cheaper. And its damn sure cheaper then having a shitty facebook machine and a console.
Settings are a good thing, they give you options, but you don't have to dick with them if you don't want to. Less choice is Apple's retarded sales tactics and doesn't belong in gaming.
Its not unified as PS3 found out in its multiplats and as Xbone will find out soon. And the dead third party on Nintendo consoles.
Triple A goes to PC the majority of the time with better results. I can wait a month to spend my time with the better edition.
Exclusives are debatable. PC gets entire genre that don't work on console and some that may as well not be on console. Japanese games are working their way to PC so Sony is losing that bit by bit. Now if you are a Nintendo die hard, and they do make some good games even if their best years are in the past, then yea understandable to get a console.
The list is bullshit man. I like consoles, I really do, but we've not had any consoles in generations just gimp PC with locked downed systems. Fuck even arcades run on Windows now. When they were unique devices that had special abilities it was great. They are now just small PCs that hold games hostage and tell you how you are allowed to play.
>>319863496
>4K 144HZ listed as a standard
KEK
E
K
>>319863998
So if a game comes out on Steam that also uses Uplay, you're just not going to buy it because you're afraid of making another account?
>>319863998
>as a steam exclusive user
>"master race"
>dont even have many good exclusives
>ported games are broken and perform horribly
>$1000 spent just to play cs or LoL all day
LOL
>>319864421
>Say all this
>Pic from visual novel
Kek, you play youre Patting Simulator 2015, and I will play Xenoblade, Bloodborne and Sunset Overdrive.
>>319863496
>No Bloodborne, No Mario
Are you going to buy two consoles? Because there is not a single console that have both.
Also, PC has emulation. You can play pretty much every game up to PS2/PSP, Wii/DS.
Think about the sales as well. PCs cost more but the games cost less.
On the other hand, consoles (will) have some backward compatibility.
Whatever you choose, choose wisely and think about the most important thing: games.
PC is best for FPS, RTS and cRPGs.
PS4 for jRPGs.
WiiU for... well, Nintendo games.
Everything listed as a plus for consoles applies to PC except for "dumbed down experience" and exclusives which aren't good enough to justify the price of the machine. Also most games still cant keep 60 FPS on consoles so there isn't some magic developer priority. Focus on play is literally meaningless.
>>319863496
>Unified platform
What does that even mean
>>319864396
>Free online
Maybe if you're a child or in your patents basement still
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzbaqmXrhi4 link to list
>>319863998
>playing anything released on origin or uplay
kekity kek
>>319863998
Or just use any chat/voice program out there.
>>319866952
PC: Pay net fees
Console: Pay net fees + console subscription
Are you retarded anon or are you actually a child or in your parent's basement still?
>>319864890
Fuck distribution platforms altogether unless they are going to be like GoG.
>>319863496
>Broken games
Consoles don't have these and shovelware?
>Unmatched exclusives
Here and there, but that is true for PC too.
>Unified platform
wat? I feel like any point you are trying to make here can already be covered by your already shaky price/excellent value + fragmented + broken games points
>Streamlined experience
Yes, I too enjoy forced firmware updates to play games, relying on the devs to fix game-breaking bugs, and having shitty UIs. "Just pick up the controller and play bro"
>Price/excellent value
Not really, once you consider the forced services, the smaller library, the higher game prices, the lack of customization, and if you stop seeing monitors as part of the price of a PC but not TVs as part of the price for consoles.
>No bloodborne, no mario
Why is this even listed explicitly since it is already covered in other points?
>Focus on play, not settings
And then you wish you had settings when something is shit. If you really wanted you could ignore most settings on PC games.
>>319866386
>ported games are broken and perform horribly
post ONE game except from the obvious arkham knight that performs worse on pc or stop memeing, faggot
mediocre bait
>>319865185
Fair enough. Though as much as I like physical copies I'm not sure it matters anymore now that even consoles are full of locked content and online authentication. Its not far off from a code on a disc anymore. I miss carts sometimes.
>>319867407
>Resident Evil 4
>Bully: Scholarship Edition
>Dark Souls
>Enslaved: Odyssey to the West
>Watch Dogs
>Borderlands
>Saints Row 2
>GTA4
>>319863496
But most of the pc down sides are wrong and half of the console upsides are wrong too.
>>319866574
>posts weak b8
>pic from before a raping
kek, enjoy youre partyvan
T-thanks doc
>Price. Excellent value
$500 for a console, $100 for every game, having to pay for the MANDATORY Internet bullshit that could be cut off at any time leaving you with only what's on your harddrive
>Focus on play, not setting
This point is nonsense
>Streamlined experience
So basically he's saying he's a casual who can't handle complexity, because "streamlining" in games is casualisation and probably the most lamented thing by gamers.
>Unified platform
Right. Xbox, PS2, and whatever the fuck nintendo are doing are unified, you fucking retard.
>Triple A dev priority
Why did he put a PC pro on the console side?
>>319867945
So this...this is the power of argumentation of Master Race.
>>319863496
>Playing games whatever platform i want. Be it console or PC.
These topics are nothing but poor-fags and fanboys circle-jerking.
>>319867716
>RE4
It's been re-ported, it's not shit anymore.
>Bully: Scholarship Edition
It's a shit port but it's at least playable.
>Dark Souls
DSFix fixes most of the issues
>Watch Dogs
It's a shitty game anyway, who the fuck cares?
>Borderlands
Same as above.
>Saints Row 2
I'll give you this one, shit's nearly unplayable.
>GTA4
Not nearly as bad as most people make it out to be.
Try harder, faggot.
>>319863998
>Of course I could just sign up and take the corporate dick, but I'd rather not
How come that you're 'steam exclusive user' then?
>>319869179
really you asked for only one game, i gave you eight, you also admit that those games run worse on PC, in my eyes, i've given more than enough effort
>>319869179
>not important, mods fix it
>at least I can play! HOW CAN YOU PLAY GTAV IN 30 FPS???
>Mods. Most of issues, not all.
>Since I dont like, nobody is allowed too.
>Same as above.
>Honesty, at last.
>They dont understand!
F A G
A
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>>319863496
I don't get where the myth comes from that PCs were more expensive. Games are cheaper in general and there are no additional subscription fees. If you're a dudebro who only plays CoD and Madden, then a console is cheaper but if you actually buy a lot of games, then PC is the cheaper option.
Also, AAA releases usually play much better on PC, since on consoles they're made to run at 30fps which on PC would already be considered unplayable.
Not to mention that when it comes to exclusives, PC actually has a lot more variety. Any genre that exists on consoles also exists on the PC, and while you might not be able to play Bloodborne, you can play games that are similar to Bloodborne, e.g. the Souls titles, while PC exclusives such as DCS or Paradox grand strategy games and such don't exist on consoles.
>>319869424
>those games run worse on PC
They don't though.
You have higher resolutions and more fps in general. What do you mean by "run worse"?
>>319863496
>No Bloodborne, No Mario
You already have 2 identical rehashes available, you don't need a 3rd
You can emulate nearly every Mario game
>>319863496
You people are fucking children. Exclusives are a bad thing. If brands of Blu Ray players had exclusive movies, people would be rioting in the streets, as they should.
>>319865189
>boy, lemme just list the 4000 PC exclusives really quick
Nobody gives a shit about your (usually unfinished) indy games an excell spreadsheets. PC has no real exclusives worth playing.
>>319863496
The author of this really tried to seem unbiased by getting some good points in on the PC side. But the only con he can come up with for consoles is lack of backward compatibility?
Also no one gives a fuck about 4k
I built my gaming PC for the same price of a xBone(on launch) and it runs shit at higher quality.
Both PC and Consoles get broken games.
Theres PC exclusives than consoles don't have either.
WiiU actually has backwards compatibility, something the pisspoor or xbone doesn't have.
Except nintendo didn't make a video solely to say they had it. Looking at you sony for your sharing games amongst friends video. Something the WiiU has aswell.
>>319863496
>Unmatched exclusives
Yeah, a totally unbiased comparison
To me RTS, 4x and GSG exclusives are infinitely more worthwile than casual shovelware trash like uncharted or gaylo
Why aren't there any girl consoles?
>>319866834
The one who made OP's video was probably attempting to say that digital distribution could be handled through one, easy to use service. Not only is that really shitty due to lack of competition, it's also technically false if he's lumping all non-PC platforms under one big "console" blanket since Nintendo, Microsoft and Sony all use their own online distribution services.
Do you want games in a higher resolution and framerate at a much higher cost?
Buy a PC
Do you want shitty indie games?
Buy a potato
>>319863496
Huy is obviously gunning for consoles. If he wanted it to at least seem fair it would need to be
PC
+ Completely customizable from resolution to controls
+/- Performance and Graphics scale to your specs/wallet
+ Unmatched Library of Games
+ Multi-function platform
- Wildly varying software Quality
- DIY highly recommended, high maintenance
- Higher chance of user errors
Consoles
+ Set prices for reliable, high quality standardized performance
+ Streamlined Experience
+ Popular and Accessible
- Restricted Functionality
- Fragmented Platforms/Exclusives
- Higher cost for services
>Price/excellent value
I can agree that initial price is lower, but
>$60 controllers and retardedly overpriced accessories
>expensive games
>Paid fucking online
KEK
>>319870025
http://www.gamespot.com/forums/pc-mac-linux-society-1000004/big-pc-exclusives-of-2015-2016-2017-new-31154099/
>>319870968
>Set prices for reliable, high quality standardized performance
Holy kek this is so wrong it's hilarious.
They can't even make things run consistently on console, so I don't know what drugs made you think this.
>>319871070
I always see this argument, but:
A good controller is just as expensive on the PC, you can buy cheap PC controllers just as you can shitty 3rd party console controllers. Many PC games are shit without a controller.
Games drop in price and go on sale, those things aren't exclusive to steam. Can also easily buy used games, rent games, borrow games from friends etc... I've never spent full release price on a console game
With paid online, that's a huge detractor, I'll give you that. Though I don't care about that since I only really play single player games, but I'l give you that one.
>from an idort
>>319863496
>No Mario
But that's what emulation's for OP.
>>319870025
> STALKER
> Grimrock 2
> Warcraft 3
> The Witcher
> Cities Skylines
> Liero
> nothing special
look at this console peasant
>>319871183
You pay a certain amount that everyone else pays within a couple dozen bucks depending on sales and get reliable performance between games. Star wars battlegrounds on your PS4 is going to perform exactly like the Battlegrounds on everyone else's PS4. The advantage of a console is that developers need to only develop for a single, standardized set of specifications for each console.
But who am I kidding you used kek and broad, asinine generalizations; you can just fuck right on off.
don't you get banned for posting things like this
i got banned twice for posting pc vs console pics before
>>319863496
PC
+ 4K+, 144Hz+, Multiscreen.
+Better Graphics.
+Scales to your specs.
+Game catalog.
+/- multiple choice of digital distribution for those that want to buy from other sources.
+Abundance of control options.
+/- Multiple hardware differences makes bug testing take longer but in the end always succeed the console counterpart.
+/- Have Bloodorne soon, WiiU emulator is going stead forward so there's Mario on PC.
Consoles
+/-Price / Consoles cost less because the cost is instead put on each game to cover the lowered cost of the console, more value for the console for people that buys less games, but instead have to buy a $400 invitation to those few games instead of using the PC you already bought.
+Focus on streamlined and option less settings
- - - - Backwards compability.
-Dumbed down experience.
-No unified platform.
+/-Triple A dev ass licking priority.
- ^1024 Enslaving game titles to an inferior hardware.
>>319870025
You do not enjoy video games if you think this.
>>319871359
Meant to say battlefront. For some reason I typed battlefront but got it confused with galactic battlegrounds in my head.
>>319871070
Not to mention that people usually arguing for "console" side's cheapness tend to forget that if you want to enjoy all non-PC exclusives you have to buy not one, but multiple platforms with inferior hardware, not only because of different companies' products running different games, but also because of lack of backwards compatibility. It's not enough to buy a PS4, you also have to buy a PS3 and PS2 in order to be able to play older games. If you want to play other games of the same gen be ready to shell out money on Nintendo and Microsoft's products as well.
Compare that to PC where building one platform will run all PC games and also emulate some consoles.
>>319871404
Can you suck PC dick any harder, here? I don't think you can, PC's pubic hair is tickling your nose.
>>319871359
>broad, asinine generalizations
I know you're paid to shill consoles, but you're literally retarded if you actually think games are not coming out with second plus hangs, excessive crashing, and overall bad performance and claim that anyone saying this is "generalizing."
>>319871503
What device did you use to post that shitpost?
I have a hard time seeing you posting that on a console with a controller.
Go back to your life support box one.
>>319863496
>4k, 144hz, multiscreen
you can't have that shit all at once unless you spend ridiculous amounts of money though
How is fragmented digital distribution a bad thing? Not relying on a single storefront means better deals on games.
>>319871540
Well both times you just said 'games' so that's pretty indicative I guess. If you want my proof that games are consistent between platforms go watch around twitch for a few hours and see how many people are crashing or getting insane hangup time.
>>319871358
> Mediocre games and games from 10 years ago.
Both consoles and PC have their own ups and downs in a mostly subjective way. The only way is to look at them all and make a decision based on how you feel instead of listening to other people flex their opinions. Or, use someone else's opinion as information to help inform yourself and create your own instead of just parroting it.
I can't believe someone who actually enjoys video games will pick a single platform and defend it exclusively.
>>319871606
You definitely don't enjoy video games. You've come to the right place, my friend.
>>319871605
>go watch around twitch for a few hours and see how many people are crashing or getting insane hangup time.
I watched a Just Cause 3 stream where the game constantly dropped to single digits all the time and crashed like 4 times on xbone.
But, you know, it's literally perfect and I'm a fucking faggot for not worshiping the perfection of consoles.
>Buy shitty game on consoles
>Stuck with this shitty state because Sony and Microshit don't want to patch games
>Buy shitty game on PC
>Either the dev releases a patch or users will make one themselves
>>319871725
Not that anon, but those games you listed are pretty uninteresting in my opinion. Dungeon Crawlers, Simulators and Strategy games aren't really most people's cup of tea, if you ask me.
PC:
+Better framerate
+Better resolution
+Bigger library of games
+Modding
+Free online
-Expect to pay a huge amount if you want anything worthwhile
-Requires knowledge and self assembly to avoid even higher costs
-Open to many problems
Consoles:
+Price
+Plug and play
+No effort required for sofa gaming
+/- Exclusives
-Performance
-Fewer games overall
-Backwards compatibility
-Paid online
>>319865189
>boy, lemme just list the 4000 PC exclusives really quick
I've got you covered, senpai. It's too big to post on 4chan, though.
http://webmshare.com/yKKoo
>>319871753
I can watch streams of people playing PC games and it crashing on them all the time, that doesn't mean EVERYONE is crashing. Some are, but most aren't. Same thing with consoles. Some are, but most aren't. I'm not saying consoles are perfect, and your single-minded desire to say that I am is just so boring. Your response is too predictable, at least try to be creative when you're pretending to be retarded. Then at least I could get a screen cap or have fun responding. As it is this is just filler shit, like dry cake. No thanks.
>>319871585
>What is a comma?
>>319872007
>-Expect to pay a huge amount if you want anything worthwhile
A 500 dollar i3/950, Athlon/370 is still good anon, and you're still paying as much as you'd spend on a console
Plus, most PC exclusives don't need beefy computers
>-Requires knowledge and self assembly to avoid even higher costs
This is true
>-Open to many problems
This shouldn't be a problem when you did point 2
>>319872185
>Same thing with consoles. Some are, but most aren't.
>Consoles are super consistent, all of them run exactly the same!
>Except all the ones that don't!
If you're a smart consumer, consoles are really the cheaper option by a long way. The argument of $60 games is pointless when the counter-argument is always steam sales. Though while full price games on PC are generally less than console, the difference isn't noticeable unless you buy a shit ton of games (at which point, you're hardly a poorfag anyway, so why have console?)
In terms of Steam sales, console games also go on sale a lot and drop in price a lot. The only games I generally see maintaining a high price are Nintendo games.
>>319872267
>A 500 dollar i3/950, Athlon/370 is still good anon, and you're still paying as much as you'd spend on a console
And yet everyone will laugh at you for the shit gaming you get. You get a PC for the quality difference not to compare to consoles. This argument has always been the most ridiculous thing to me.
>>319863496
>unmatched exclusives
>>319872407
This to some extent.
You don't buy a PC to match a console in price, you get a PC so you can go beyond in both price and performance.
>>319864575
>costs more than a fucking car
Leave it up to console fags to also buy piece of shit vehicles as well.
>>319872267
Come on, while a potato PC might be able to outperform the current consoles for a short time, games will always be optimized for consoles over the course of this gen. That build will obviously need to be upgraded. Though I'm a Britfag and even a potato build like that would be much more expensive that a console due to the cost of the hardware here.
In terms of problems, even if you have knowledge of computers, it won't stop problems from occurring, simply means you may know how to fix them when they do.
>>319872267
then you'd just have to really emphasize the knowledge part. To the average console consumer when they go to best buy or amazon or whatever and ask for a gaming computer they get something that's at least $1k because >prebuilt
>>319872295
Is this what you get off to? Are you siting their with your dick in your hand going "Yes, I ran him around enough for him to try and compromise and, by expertly employing my sith practice of absolutes, disprove him forthwith!" as you furiously stroke your turgid purple submarine trying to jettison the unfortunate seamen within?
I didn't say they never crashed, I said they had reliable, high quality performance. Reliable doesn't mean it never crashes. You're doing the absolutes thing again.
>>319872407
Unless you like console ports (in which case you should stick to consoles), those builds are solid, especially for the price, and run circles around consoles anon
Of course you should spend more if you can afford it
>>319863998
>Valve is not a corporation
>>319863717
>They're literally the exact fucking opposite of that, there are three different brands that trumpet their various exclusivities like they're supposed to be a good thing.
Yes but each console model is unified.
And PC is not a platform by any mean. If you say PC is a platform is like saying mobile is a platform or consoles are a platform. It's just a generic word reapropriated from an marketing term coined to refer to IBM machines which don't even exist anymore.
Even if you limit yourself to x86 architecture, you still have to choose between Windows, Mac and Linux and only Windows has all the games. The other two are insignificant in comparison, so much that PC gaming = Windows gaming in practice.
Not only that, Windows has plenty of software incompatibilities between each version and BC is achieved through lots of hardwork from the fanbase with emulators, VMs or mods.
Finally, there all those peripherals, including GPUs, that sometimes are required to play the game and sometimes even give different results based on the chosen brand(With BS like PhysiX or Mantle, or the various controllers(ironically the best ones are from consoles), or VR headsets with proprietary APIs, or fancy mouse and keyboards).
>>319864421
You do understand that "Only a Sith deals in absolutes." is an absolute?
>>319871942
As can be observed from the sales those games made and are still making.
Even now you can see Stalker threads almost every week with someone asking which one should they buy as their first one.
If you're casual/underage, you get a console and play stuff like Uncharted, Halo or GoW, otherwise you get a PC and play Civilization, Total War or Xcom.
It's as simple as that.
>>319863496
>No Bloodborne, No Mario
>people legitimately think this is a valid argument
>Streamlined experience
>Unified platform
>Focus on play, not settings
Someone actually wrote these down thinking they're pros instead of cons
>>319873168
>and play Civilization, Total War or Xcom.
>You're casual if you don't like strategy games
>>319873330
Pretty much, almost every game that's not strategy or gsg is casual
>>319873392
Pretty retarded post desu senpai
>>319864421
God the autism
>>319873571
Literally meaningless
This.. this is the power of argumentation from a consolefag
>>319873559
Show me all those non-casual console exclusives anon-kun
>>319873646
Never said anything about consoles baka
>fragmented digital distribution
am i the only one that read this as more places to buy from?
>>319873646
>>319873698
I don't know where all this honorifics and 'baka' stuff is coming from but I like it. It's like /a/ is invading every board.
>>319863496
>every console
>vs pc
Welp, lets make it a ps4 v pc+xbone+Wii-U discussion and see how that plays out.
Oh wait. Pc is the only platform expected to compete with everything else put together.
Consolekeks are so desperate.
>>319873815
That's totally what the OP was striving for, good job for being so spot on in :^)
>focus on play, not settings
looks to me like consoles are trying the opposite with its movies and commercials
>-no bloodborne, no mario
what is dark souls? what is emulation?
>>319865694
>that irl loli on the left
god damn
>>319874179
>what is dark souls?
Not bloodborne?
>>319872547
>I said they had reliable, high quality performance
>high quality performance
>consoles
God fucking damn how much fucking money are they giving you for this holy fucking shit.
>>319874324
same devs, same game, same style
calling souls blood doesnt make a difference
>>319863496
> implying consoles dont have broken games
You never browsed the xbox marketplace did you?
Or hell even the fo3 ps3 goty was broken as shit
>>319874365
>>319874582
i bet you think bloodborne deserves an award
>>319874582
jeremy brett so cute
>>319874625
Love or hate for Bloodborne has nothing to do with it, I just find it funny you're stupid enough to think it's the same game as Dark Souls.
>>319874734
but it is anon, theres no difference between them gameplaywise
>>319863496
>fragmented digital distribution
what? Steam is the only thing anyone ever uses, only battlefield is origin exclusive
>>319874734
It's so similar you could have called it Darker Souls and people wouldn't know better
>>319863496
>>319869906
Unless you softmod or use a hardware mod (modship) you can't get the full use of your system.
Yes this falls under modding, but considering "modding" or "mods" usually refers to the games, not the system, its fair to make the console mods a point
>gamecube mod
>use full size dvds
>ps2 mod
>network stream games
>xbox
>the fucking plethora of uses for this is insane if modded
>ps1
>play imports
>n64
>play imports/video output mods
>saturn
>imports per usual
>dreamcast
>it has everything you need but modding bios is a useful idea/gdemu via homebrew methods
>ps3
>cfw allows you to make the most of an already big powerhouse
>360
>some people dont want to be shafted by microsoft anymore
or you know, streamline a PC with a 360 Devkit and PS3 devkit and just do whatever the fuck you want since you control everything now
excluding game mods, this is a perfectly legitimate thing to talk about.
heres a slightly dated pic from a battlestation thread. my main PC isnt here, but i do control the alienware remotely for a full streamlined setup
>>319863496
>broken games
But the ability to fix broken games, which is an ability largely missing from consoles, is my biggest reason for playing on PC.
>>319863496
I've got a midrange PC I've been enjoying for a few months, and this list is pretty accurate.
I have my PC hooked up to my TV, but the fucking hassle of figuring out what games have sufficient controller support, tweaking settings to get a decent balance of performance and visuals, and a billion different errors for every little thing makes me pine for my Wii U and PS4.
The sad thing is that people will seriously argue about this list instead of doing the only right thing. Tell OP that he's an underage faggot and that he should fuck off.
>>319864396
>>319865185
Agreed. It's all too easy for a service to bar access to your games, or for them to be unplayable with no internet access.
>>319875768
Original Xbox is my favourite mod console
>>319863496
>Focus on play, not settings
This means that you will get your shit how the developer wants. If they want it to include heavy effects and force the game run in lower resolution and fps you will have to deal with it. If you want to change something or include mods you can forget about it.
>Streamlined experience
What is this even supposed to mean? "I am stupid so this is good"?
>Unified platform
What? Everyone get the same "experience"? Yes everyone get the same experience with no customization whatsoever. And you call it a good thing. Huh?
>Tiple A dev. priority
I dont know about you but for me most of the AAA++++++ games are just not worth their pricetag and the fact how they always try to cater for the biggest possible audience.
>Unmatched exclusives
Unmatched ad campaigns and overhyping you mean.
>>319863496
>No mario
You can play every mario game from NES to Wii with a pc
>>319876216
it has so many uses for what it is. its terrifying
>>319870073
Instead the Wii U is the sorriest, most overpriced piece of shit this generation.
But, you neglect to mention that.
>>319863496
PC is an enthusiast thing. You have to be willing to occasionally mess around with shit to make other shit work.
PC + PS2 + PS3 master race.
>>319863496
>game catalog
>ends up playing nothing but dated ports of console games
>>319873641
You have anime girls on your hard drive. Anything you have to say is worthless.
No offense.
>>319866116
>reading comprehension
>fragmented digital distribution
i know this is bait but since when did having more than one option become a bad thing?
wii/ps4/xbone you only can get fucked by nintendo/sony/microsoft
on pc you can choose to be fucked by steam, origin or any of the other dozen market places, you can even choose not to be fucked by buying from DRM free stores like GOG or get your games for free without the DRM via torrents
> All this shit posting
>>319876536
actually see >>319875768 for master race
>pc handles nintendo hardware (wiiu emulator is available, just needs to be improved)
>xbox emu never so xbox original not setup for time being
>emulation available for all other platforms
>no need for ps1/2 emulation because ps3 debugger handles it fine
>>319863496
This has to be a joke.
It can't be real.
>>319870025
>T-they don't count if I don't like them!
>I am a giant faggot please rape my face
Pick two
PC used to be good
I built 3 PCs and I still prefer consoles
PC gaming used to be good when it had RTS, FPS, & RPG games that took advantage of being on a PC, they play wonderfully (Deus Ex, Doom, etc.)
PC gaming in its state now sucks ass. there's just simply no fucking interesting games.
The community is small
the graphics aren't that much of an improvement over consoles anymore
and the denuvo/steam/uplay/origin bullshit DRM is absolute garbage, its shit like that - shit that is so fucking anti-consumer
PC is waaay cheaper if you pirate games.
20-60 bucks for every game on a console adds up real quick.
>>319863496
>>319863496
>3 consoles counted as 1 to match against pc
>+$800 dollars spent on consoles alone, not counting games
Op sure showed us. I feel dumb for building this pc in 2011, that plays current games at 60FPS 1080p.
>>319863496
Pc
>Fragmented digital distribution
Consoles
>Unified platform
AHAHAH
Oh, and this one.
Consoles
>Focus on play, not settings
AHAHAHAHAHA
What is
>psn+
>windowslive
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>NO MORE PLUG AND PLAY SINCE 2006
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
PC
>No Mario
WHAT IS EMULATION FAGGOT
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>Broken games
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAboth pc and consoles get broken games...
>>319863998
is this bait?
>>319863496
>console exclusives vs
>two genres completely absent
That's a real tough decision right there.
So basically OP's image is arguing for Microsoft locking Windows to their own store as it would 'remove fragmentation'. This is exactly the sort of astroturfing I was expecting as part of the plan to lock down the PC. Are you ready for the Windows 10 update that will render it no longer an open platform?
>>319863496
>no mario
lolwat
>>319872885
Why shouldn't mobile phones be considered platforms?
>>319863496
>All these replies to such obvious bait.
Smells like Neo-/v/ in here. Don't you all have a GameFAQs poll thread to be in?
>>319863496
There's more Mario games on PC than any other platform
>>319878583
the general term of mobile phones can't be a platform. an android or iOS phone can be though. That's what he means with the analogy of the PC not being a platform either, it all depends on the operative system and if it can run games at all or not. i wouldn't call a phone that has no capability of playing games at all a platform.
whats a good pc exclusive thats not: indie fps rts or mmo
