Now that the fallout has settled, which game is more fun?
>>319855936
I had more fun with 3. However that is totally subjective and I understand how others would enjoy NV more.
If you honestly enjoy fallout games, you don't deserve to live
I only see one Fallout game on that image.
>>319855936
this might sound like a dumb answer, but i actually quite like both of them equally for their own reasons.
>>319856070
pranked
Of all the NPCs to showcase dialogue why did you pick those two?
I CANT FIGURE OUT WHY SO MANY OF YOU dont just install taletwowastelands and stfu up already. these threads are pointless
JUST
>>319856174
>not comparing the metro to the vegas sewers
>>319855936
I had fun playing 3 but I enjoyed my time in the Mojave more and had multiple playthroughs vs. the one playthrough for 3. If anyone is going to play 3 it's worth having NV as well and installing Tale of Two Wastelands so you can play 3 with NV's improved mechanics.
>>319856174
And to think those four locations in New Vegas have much more content and quests than the entirety of the locations in the top image
>>319856174
kinda sad that all of that locations were pretty bland and so is fallout 4 raiders fucking everywhere what are they even raiding at that point
3 because it's more memmersive
>>319857093
Weren't the first 2 Fallout Games emulatable on the DS with a Flashcart?
>>319856174
The Metro was garbage.
Commonwealth is even worse.
>>319856174
>defending fallout 3 with the metro
jesus fucking christ
Fallout 3:
(pros)
>Has some epic main story missions and areas (little lamplight, tranquility lane, etc.)
>You can sell children to slavery and nuke whole towns :-)
>Some of the best side missions in a game, and incredible lore to be found.
>DLCs are better
(cons)
>Radio songs are good about the first 3 times played, but become quickly annoying. If butcher pete plays one more time I'll neck myself.
>Killing Three Dog made me very happy inside.
>Voice acting is atrocious, faces are uncanny valley blobs that stare into your soul.
>Gunplay feels like I'm rolling for each attack, I play video game RPGs because they're supposed to get rid of that slow-ass fighting.
>Forced to join a faction (BoS) that I couldn't stand.
>Too many damn subway stations.
New Vegas:
(pros)
>I actually enjoyed playing the main story for this game. It didn't feel like a chore to get through it (for the most part).
>Voice acting seems to have improved
>Gunplay somewhat improved
>Mr New Vegas has Charisma +100. 10/10 would play on repeat.
>Music generally better, doesn't get annoying as quickly
>Black Mountain Radio + Tabitha & Rhonda and = :)
>Can choose a faction you like, or fuck 'em all
(cons)
>Graphics have pretty much no upgrades.
>Intro not nearly as good as F3
>Side missions not as good (or plentiful)
>DLC not as good
In retrospect I prefer Fallout 3, but it took New Vegas for me to appreciate the games at all and even give 3 a chance. I didn't get nearly as bored throughout it as I did my first time through 3.
>>319860435
should clarify that I'd played Fallout 2 long before 3 or NV, I meant get used to the new systems.
>>319855936
>which game is more fun?
That question is worthless, because everyone´s tastes are different, and sometimes people can have more fun with the worst or dumbest shit than with the highest quality product.
/v/, friend of mine almost has me convinced to get Fallout 4 on top of everything I've seen and heard about it, it looks amazing.
I rarely play open world/rpg kind of games like this, and I've never touched the Fallout series. I don't give a fuck about graphics. I do not have the time to get all invested in the rest of the Fallout series either.
Should I go for it?
>>319856505
How well does it work with other mods though?
I'm not being forced to play vanilla just for the sake of TOTW
>>319860435
>>Has some epic main story missions and areas (little lamplight, tranquility lane, etc.)
Fallout 3's quests were shit, especially the main quest-line. It was completely linear and rail-roaded.
>>319861459
Can you elaborate on that?
>>319861308
wait another month or two for patches and perhaps some quality of life mods
>>319860435
>NV
>>Side missions not as good (or plentiful)
Wot
New Vegas not only has more than twice as many quests, but it's quests are better too. With more varied options and solutions.
Meanwhile Fallout 3's quests are literally just "Go here and clear out the mutants/raiders"
>>319861308
>everything I've seen and heard about it, it looks amazing
You mustn't have seen much.
>>319860435
>more cons than pros for Fallout 3
>more pros than cons for New Vegas
>In retrospect I prefer Fallout 3...
>>319861628
>>319861695
Actually this is being generous since there are times where all four options are yes, and you can't even say no.
>>319861695
Need to change the bottom part to:
>YES
>NO
>SARCASTIC
>HATE NEWSPAPERS
>>319861308
Sure. It's a pretty fun game, and honestly, you'd probably find it exciting. Playing on PC, it's easy to mod the game, which will make it last fucking forever. Sound investment.
>>319861628
I don't even know what I'm looking at.
I also don't care much. You have given me no reason to care.
>>319856174
But the Strip has Lucky 38, The Tops, Ultra Lux, Gomorrah, Vault 21, and the NCR embassy.
>>319861695
>Yes/No
>not Yes/Yes(Sarcastic)
>>319861628
>Fo1-2 Has all your stats on one screen
>Fo3-4 have them on multiple screens
>>319861695
>NV shows every quest stage
>Fo4 shows the first quest stage
Weak bait try harder
New Vegas because you can do more than just kill shit
>>319860435
New Vegas actually has like twice the side quests as 3.
>>319861891
Don't pretend that Fallout 4 didn't remove features and mechanics.
They took out traits, skills, reputation, and culled the amount of perks.
>>319861809
I agree with this anon, it was petty enjoyable if more for its game play and less for the main story (still had some good side quests and exploration). Would be more enjoyable with mods though.
>>319862103
Is it safe to say that Fallout 4 has the worst dialog system in the history of video games?
>>319862103
>the first two options are LITERALLY the exact same thing
god damn
>>319862194
>>319855936
Fallout 2
>>319861551
I don't really care about mods.
>>319862169
I give little shit about the story, all about the gameplay.
>>319862194
I suspect this is why Bethesda intended to make it so that you can't see your full dialog choices. They didn't want people to know that all of their choices were exactly the same.
>>319862242
Mmm the amount of bias in these is amazing. Keep it up, this is entertaining.
>>319862103
That's a radiant quest. I didn't get many dialogue options with those in NV either, pal.
>>319855936
fo3 becomes unplayable after beating NV, it's that bad
>>319862327
>Bias
People are literally posting screenshots showing examples of exactly that happening.
>>319856174
>>319862289
Do it, then. It's nice and hectic for an open world game. No where near as boring gameplay-wise as the others. It's a bit like post-apocalyptic farcry, really, but with much more customisation.
>>319856030
Same here, anon.
>>319862449
>No where near as boring gameplay-wise as the others
Fallout 4 is the most boring in the series though.
>>319862184
>you will never romance a ghoul
>>319862541
>game play-wise
Lean to read dipshit
>>319862541
>vertibirds circling the sky
>engaged in fire with super mutant horde on the ground
>you rush in and blow shit up
>in power armour
>via your jetpack
Please don't lie to the guy. He's never played Fallout, and he might actually end up believing you and clicking through walls of text in NV
>>319861891
fallout 4 only has two quest stages yes/yes(sarcastic) and turn in quest after killing raiders
>>319862292
Why does everyone on /v/ always make their characters in FO4 look edgy as fuck?
How can I kill Kimball with the Euclid c finder without getting turned to swiss cheese by the rangers?
>>319862558
You can romance the mayor ghoul
csgo i think https://www.youtube.com /watch?v=GKSvHqH8eQs
>>319861462
it works with both fallout 3 mods and nv mods. You just need to run a script converter in fnvedit.
>>319862832
Hm. I might give it a try, then. Worth a shot. If it fucks everything up, I can always just delete it.
You need paid copies of both games, i've read? This true?
>>319862678
Hey long dicks and penis feet are funny! So witty!
>>319862906
>naming yourself Fuckface
wow so funi xD
>>319862906
Ah, jokes taken without any context. here, look how much the dialogue in New Vegas sucks!
>>319862440
Forgot to show the faction quests
>>319863062
New Vegas actually had low INT dialog, yet another feature that Fallout 4 removed.
>>319862990
>old world blues
oh, don't get me started. Ruining a really poignant conversation at the end by having the guy say "raisin" instead of "reason" every five lines and saying "mmm MENTATS", like simpsons references have been funny in years.
such trash.
>>319863170
Sporadically, and it stuck out like a sore thumb.
>>319862440
>>319863153
Also shouldn't include add-on quests as an advantage over F4. I realize New Vegas actually has quest depth but pretending is retarded.
>>319863170
>context
Don't care! LOOK AT THAT SHIT DIALOGUE.
>>319862906
This is the only time in any game that I found the "I don't care what you say" trick to be funny.
>>319863062
Isn't that a luck check to guess the password ?
>>319863249
SO MUCH FUNNEH
>>319863413
You're trying to spin low INT dialog as a bad thing?
>>319863409
>context
who cares? Nobody cares that the Fallout 4 examples are all infinite radiant quest dialogue.
>>319862449
>>319862678
Thanks. By the way I'm running a lot of these posts by him just to make sure I know what's real, since he's very experienced with the series. Turns out a lot of you are full of shit. Things like the simplified dialogues mentioned here are cherry picked, some of these posts and images are straight up bullshit, and the simpler stats and systems are not worse, as there are other systems in place that put things in a different context and fill out the complexity, so basically these complaints are leaving out the bigger picture and are probably just retards shitposting.
>>319863457
Look at all this thrilling dialogue!
>>319862906
I think that's more of a 'I'm aware you don't work with vault tec but I REALLY want to get the fuck out of here, so say you're with them please' kind of deal
>>319863409
Luck and low Int both allow you to guess it.
>>319863480
>the Fallout 4 examples are all infinite radiant quest dialogue
Except:
>>319862906
>>319862407
>>319862292
>>319862184
Aren't radiant quest dialog.
>>319863409
You can succeed that check with high luck or low intelligence, which becomes funny when you think about a guy getting a lucky guess or a screaming retard shouting out the password because he loves ice cream
>>319863457
Not him but the way it only came up in like 4% of all dialogue made it really odd
>>319860435
>Has some epic
>>319863509
>Hasn't played a single Fallout
>Thinks he knows more about the series than people who have played all of them
>>319863607
what happens if you have high luck and low int? Do you get the option twice?
>>319863509
A lot of people will lie to you here because they pretend to like the original games from like..1997, and cry whenever a new games out, defaulting to pretend to like the previous one.
The two posts you cited are both me, and they're both true, though the greentext obviously doesn't happen all the time. It's a pretty dramatic game though, and you can always take time out just to explore shit, which is pretty atmospheric too, and there are lots of little, minor stories to find in notes and terminals.
Like I say, it's a great open-world FPS with depth. These retards are crying because it's not the open-world RPG that they wanted and feel entitled to.
>>319863726
I believe the game registers it as a luck check since that grants an XP reward
>>319863691
Maybe you missed the part about running all this by someone who has a shit ton of experience with the entire series.
>>319863024
>>319863607
>which becomes funny
if you consider ME TALK REAL GOOD to be the height of wit.
>>319855936
theyre allfun
NV is LITERALLY an upgrade in every single facet compared to FO3. Why even make this thread when that's universally agreed upon?
>NV dialogue options
>so witty! so hilarious!
Making Arcade Gannon feel sorry for you was the best low-INT speech check.
>>319863809
Is his name Todd Howard?
Seriously, go ask /fog/ or something, anyone will tell you that Fallout 4 is a massive step back from New Vegas.
>>319863809
Quit getting mad about things you don't understand.
>>319863860
Careful there, you'll trigger /v/ with that kind of talk
>>319863860
no fun allowed
>Fallout 3 writing
>>319863691
He's obviously either b8ing or a dudebro who would love FO4 since it's so casualized that it's barely a game. Just let him be.
>>319863978
Yeah, he should play New Vegas!
Just look at this awesome FUNNY dialogue!
HE SO DUMB HA HA
It's like Dickens! HA HA
>>319863854
your asshurt makes no sense, we aren't saying its brilliant writing but that its at least more dialog options to roleplay with, I get that its only some times it shows up which is jarring but what do you expect for an rpg that was rushed out the door. that sure is better than a game with 5 years of development time with the options being yes, yes, yes(sarcastic) no(actually also yes)
fun fact: fallout 3 and 4 are the 5th and 7th games in the franchise, 5 and 7 in binary is 101 and 111
>>319863913
why are you so mad?
>>319864187
That's pretty neat anon
>>319862440
Oh my goodness that is atrocious!
4 has fewer quests than 3!
I'll stick with New Vegas...
>>319864175
>your asshurt makes no sense
You're the one defending penis fingers and bear and bull bear and bull. Stop making excuses for your rubbish games, m8.
>>319864241
Are people still using this meme?
>>319863509
No the dialogue was really shit. This is the effect of having your character voice acted. It was the same thing with Dragon age.
>>319864126
It adds character and detail to the game. Its not really meant to be funny. Its not about all the individual things they took out of FO4 but the lack of of anything amusing to replace it.
>>319864270
It's shopped. They took out all the different faction quests for 4.
>>319863770
Good to know. Thanks anon.
He's still confirming a lot of these posts are head up ass retarded, shitposting, or blinded by whatever.
>>319864405
And the misc. quests, come to think it of.
>>319863554
well of course the dialogue is going to be dumb if the character is dumb.
>>319864404
> Its not really meant to be funny
It's MEANT to be funny. It just isn't. Because the writing in New Vegas was poor. They made up for lack of quality by bloating out the quantity.
>>319864404
They could have made the Legion a not shit faction, but instead they did that. Wow such depth!
>>319864579
>It's MEANT to be funny. It just isn't
>>319864484
Oh yes. They really are. Some of it's cherrypicked infinite quest dialogue, which they're pretending is supposed to be deep main-quest stuff. Some of it is just bait.
>>319864731
That IS funny. It's also Fallout 3. Bethesda has better writers than Obsidian. I just wish the characters didn't all look like mustachioed frog-people.
>>319864187
You're right that is a fun fact
>>319863770
>Like I say, it's a great open-world FPS with depth.
Todd...
Why the sudden pretend love foer this piece of shit? I know you hate Fallout 4, but that's really no excuse to be elevating this to anything but a mediocre expansion pack.
>invisible walls everywhere
>dreary, fanservice companions appeal to the lwest common denominator
>absolutely horrendous writing
>boring and constricting 'pointless revenge' storyline
>hiring shit fourth-rate celebrities as voice actors, regardless of if they can actually voice act
>radio stations are beyond boring
>immersion-breaking repair system has you mending weapons and armour instantly from a pip-boy
>devs bullied around by NMA, forced to relegate anything actually fun to an optional extra
>two main factions, one of which is universally reviled, portrayed as evil at every turn and pushed to the corner of the map
>other factions have you join them for no real reason or purpose
>horrible mr house twweeeest for the kids
>truly awful DLC missions that are either boring as hell or full of funny memes for children
>kill caesar? Who cares?
>>319864843
>That IS funny
>Bethesda has better writers than Obsidian
This thread is just too much.
>>319864843
>Bethesda has better writers than Obsidian
There's some things we don't even joke about anon
>>319864338
penis fingers sure is better written than anything in Bethesda other games.
>>319864405
I'll play 4 someday, but being a speech oriented player who loves the conversations in Fallout most of all, 4 seems the least appealing, although the improved combat looks enticing, as does the building mechanic.
>>319864912
I don't even understand half of this
>>319865196
>but being a speech oriented player who loves the conversations in Fallout most of all
You're going to absolutely hate Fallout 4, I guarantee.
>>319864937
>>319865031
Oh, sure. I love it when games are full of psuedo-philosophical wealls of text that contradict themselves. Or unfunny and ironic meme garbage that just scream "remember portal?".
It's like..Obsidian is the idea of good writing if you're a complete fucking idiot who is easily tricked into thinking that long=good
>>319864912
I love how Obsididrones spout "Oh look at all these faction choices!" when they mean jack shit in the end.
>>319862335
New Vegas has radiant quests?
>>319865196
> being a speech oriented player who loves the conversations in Fallout most of all
me too, and I really liked it. All the persuasion options are based on speech checks through charisma, so it actually made sense this time around. There are some really awesome conversations in 4. Don'tm listen to /v/ shitposters and cherry picked crap.
The settlement building IS crap unless you mod it though.
>>319865196
It's not that bad. They added a speech minigame like the hacking or lockpicking one, it tests your persistence by having you quickload until you get a successful outcome.
>>319865282
The atmosphere also appeals to me, as does the exploration, and according to Todd Howard the map is bigger than Skyrim and Fallout 3 combined!
>>319865404
In the sense that you can hand in items for caps.
>>319865354
what an example of good writing then?
>>319865393
>NV has four factions, four faction-based endings and a slideshow of post-game story based on your actions around the game world
>Fallout 4 has four factions, only two endings, and no slideshow
I'm not sure what you're trying to get at.
>>319865528
In any videogame?
>>319865465
Either that or some "magical" threshold where having even 1 point lower fails the check!
>>319865567
in any RPG
>>319865354
>Obsidian is the idea of good writing if you're a complete fucking idiot who is easily tricked into thinking that long=good
What are you talking about? New Vegas isn't particularly long.
>>319865537
>NV has four factions (none of which you actually join), four faction-based endings and a slideshow of post-game story based on what the writers intended you actions to mean, even though they don't sync up with what you actually did
FTFY
>>319865453
Huh, the building mechanic was one of the biggest draw for me...and the settlements look great as does the settlement management, and defending them and whatnot.
Do you get rival settlements? Can you combine with already existing cities?
Can you send NPCs to work for your settlement?
>>319865453
>All the persuasion options are based on speech checks through charisma, so it actually made sense this time around
No it doesn't make sense, and it's shit how scaled back dialog checks are. We used to have dialog checks for all sorts of SPECIAl, skills, and perks. So a smart character with high INT could have access to saying smart things. Now all we get is Speech. There are also fewer opportunities.
>>319865537
>Thinking a fucking slideshow at the end of the game makes a good story
Oh fuck this is too good
>I get one picture instead of another! I feel so accomplished!
>>319865687
No, but the endless boring dialogue pads it out to double the length.
Lonesome Road would have been an hour long if it weren't for Ulysses crying about my flag, and how I have a flag, even though when I told him I don't have a flag he says he never cared about flags in the first place, and that he needs a new flag.
genius.
>>319865698
>NV has four factions (none of which you actually join)
Wat
>>319865576
Exactly. Why have some stupid stat system when you can make it purely based on quickloading skill? Reward the player for doing well rather than locking off content because they did something wrong.
>>319865698
>NV has four factions (none of which you actually join)
It is said that you join them in the ending slideshow.
>>319865698
>(none of which you actually join)
You absolutely join House's faction in the House route.
>>319865767
>>I get one picture instead of another! I feel so accomplished!
As apposed to Fallout 4 which has literally nothing.
>>319865687
given that almost all the quests add into the main story in some way or another, given all the different ways of doing one quest and hence multiple, given the many, many encounters through the wasteland, I'd say NV is at least 500 times as long as 3.
>>319865767
yeah its a shame people want the story to be personal to their character or somthing.
>>319865854
>I don't know what i'm talking about: The post
>>319865767
There are at least 2 different slideshows and consequences for each major(or minor) part
>>319865829
you can join all the major factions in their ending quests, the guy is clearly just a shit poster
>>319865704
Ohhh, no. It's VERY basic. You can sort of build stuff, but it doesn't work very well. Defense doesn't seem to do much as far as i've noticed other than help out IF you happen to be there. You can make supply routes to share resources, but the settlements will never link.
NPCs can work for you, but only farming or scavenging.
It's pretty clear that it's only intended as a tittilating optional extra or they will expand it in DLC. Don't get it for the settlement stuff. You'll be disappointed.
>>319865734
>it doesn't make sense for charisma to influence speech checks.
>>319865921
How so? Fallout 4 has two endings, one for siding with the Institute, and one for against (Doesn't matter which faction you side with, they all get the same ending)
And then no slideshow.
>>319865984
>joining the NCR
>joining the legion
lel no u don't
>>319866039
Fallout 4 doesn't end. It gives you the slides and then puts you back in the game. In my case, there was an entire questline after that slideshow.
>>319866018
>Stealing from others/Killing ghouls can lower/raise some arbitrary meter to influence your rep even when no one is around
What a great mechanic
>>319866053
But you get a fucking medal for yoru service in the NCR and a coin with your face for the Legion
>>319865995
It doesn't make sense that Charisma is the only stat that gives us dialog checks.
If I make a smart character with 10 INT, why can't I get to say anything smart in dialog? My character in particular, had 10 INT and all science based perks, but I never got any dialog to say something intelligence or scientific, even when conversing with actual scientists.
If this was New Vegas, I'd be getting heaps of INT and science skill checks.
>>319866157
>murder an NCR soldier
>you've lost karma!
>murder a legion soldier
>you've gained karma!
Absolutely retarded.
>>319865796
>>319865829
In the House route you take up living at the Lucky 38, enjoying a mostly easy life while Mr. House takes pride in the fact that someone so talented has faith in his ideals.
In all other endings the Courier walks off into the wasteland to know who knows what, similar to how the Vault Dweller in Fallout 1 leaves the Vault (not by choice) to walk off into the wasteland.
>>319866164
You don't get to join them, however much they give you a shiny penny for handing them an entire state.
Please stop defending this utter shit.
>>319866229
If you murder NCR soldiers in stealth it doesn't lose you karma
>>319866209
>but I never got any dialog to say something intelligence or scientific, even when conversing with actual scientists.
That's funny, because I did. It even bypassed an entire side-quest for the brotherhood of steel.
>>319865704
>and defending them and whatnot.
>>319866018
it's still better than 3, at least there are reasons to be good in the Mojave that work logically, in 3 you can blow up a town because some guy you meet at the bar tells you he lives in a big tower and will give you money if you meet him there after arming the bomb, despite Megaton being the only piece of civilization sheltering you from the dangers of the wastes so far.
In New Vegas you can send the rockets off course or give Goodsprings to the courier just because you're a brilliant ninja troll who knows the territory.
There's no reason a kid out of a vault would do those things, makes no sense, especially right away in the game.
>>319866229
You don't gain karma for killing Legion members you lying fuck.
>>319866313
Jesus, that's somehow more retarded.
>>319866357
>frozen using a cheatengine cht. called PlaceinRed
The settlement stuff is disappointing enough without lying about it.
>>319862927
nope.
They just say that for legal reasons/not endorsing piracy.
>>319865661
witcher
>>319866705
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-egGn5WYrk
>>319866685
Sweet. I'm sure I have a copy of these games somewhere. Though if not, they're both like..4 pounds each, so hey. Well, off to modding!
>>319866357
why does this matter? its too fucking dark to even tell whats going on
>>319865661
Divinity series.
Deus Ex
Eidos has pretty good writers, to be perfectly honest, extended relation.
>>319866504
>>319866813
Todd pls
>>319865785
I'm not saying it isn't long without the dialogue, I'm saying it actually isn't long.
>>319866820
>>319866705
I liek all these games but struggle to understand why they blow obsidian out of the water, Bethesda are just plain shit regardless, call of duty has a better plot in most of its games than bethesda
>>319866873
>Todd pls
This was funny the first time.
>>319866947
You aren't any less obvious Todd
>>319855936
Fallout 3 is objectively better.
A new genre should be named for whatever Far Cry popularised because Fallout 4 sure as shit isn't an rpg.
>>319866926
>call of duty has a better plot in most of its games than bethesda
Call of Duty games often have excellent plotlines. Or they used to. Not played one since world at war.
Obsidian is what I would call tryhard tier. They pander to the fanbases and tailor everything they write to autists.
And autists don't know what good writing is. So the thing ends up being a longwinded, minutely-detailed mess.
The difference between Bethesda and Obsidian..? It's like the difference between talking to someone who's kinda funny for ten minutes and talking to someone who can recite a few 20 minute long stories he heard that are kinda funny.
>>319867027
YOU'RE WRONG!
YOU STUPID SON-OF-A-BITCH!!!
>>319856174
This. New Vegas's world is pretty shit, despite the removal of the green filter. Everything else is objectively better though.
>>319865354
Wow, stuff I've never read before in a New Vegas vs. Bethesda thread. You truly are a pioneer of bethdrones saying x about new vegas was actually very bad. You realize no one will change their mind, the fact that you pretend New Vegas is pseudo-philisophical or w/e speaks to your insecurity. It's a fucking game, otherwise it wouldn't have low-int options and breadth of dialogue and intertwined narratives. Good writing is when the writers care about the world they're writing about and think about interesting ways to tell it to the player that isn't teddybears in funny positions and terminals.
NV is a better RPG. 4 is a sandbox rpg ala. minecraft story mode.
>>319867254
Okay, so 3 has a labyrinthine maze with nothing but ghouls in it, whereas New Vegas as a fairly simple few areas filled with open-ended, interconnecting quests and secrets, and multiple NPCs.
Who gives a crap about the frustratingly confusing, shitty F3 metro..
if you prefer fallout 3/NV over 4
there's something seriously wrong with you.
>>319867384
>You realize no one will change their mind, the fact that you pretend New Vegas is pseudo-philisophical or w/e speaks to your insecurity. It's a fucking game,
If you don't think that games can pull of decent writing, then you're spending too much time on trash, and blithely pretending other games don't even exist.
>You realize no one will change their mind,
I can't convince a dog not to eat his own shit either, but that doesn't make him right. Certainly doesn't mean that I should lower myself to do it.
>>319867384
>comparing minecraft story mode to fallout 4
>>319867384
>>319867764
Wait, minecraft has a story?
>>319867764
I'm willing to bet Minecraft Story Mode's dialog choices hold more meaning.
>>319866018
what a boring playthrough that must have been
>>319867808
"Minecraft Story Mode" is a separate game from actual Minecraft.
>>319867764
if there's one thing i've learned over the last few days it's that these fuckers will say ANYTHING to justify their irrational hatred of a game they either haven't played, or have played for 100 hours.
It's like skyrim all over again.
>>319867929
New Vegas is never boring. Never.
It always has funny and interesting stuff, like when that bouncer pretends to kill those guys for caps, and you use high perception to call him out on his scamming.
Good or evil, the game is fartinating!
>>319868096
>New Vegas is never boring. Never.
Actually, a fair deal of the quests and DLC are pretty boring. Unless you like doing endless NCR fetch quests.
Your baby-bias is showing, zealot.
>>319867929
Why?
>>319868319
>stims taken: 0
>people killed: 0
>creatures killed: 0
>times addicted: 0
he just walked all over the mojave running away from anything and everything
>>319868275
Okay I agree that SOME of the quests are boring, but given that you could be attacked by a legion raiding party at any moment, or geckos, they're still pretty interesting.
And NCR fetch quests? You mean like the vault 12 quest? ON YOUR BIIIKE!
I agree though that most of the NCR quests are kinda dull, although I was turned on by the whole Fiend bounty questline at Camp McCarran.
>>319868275
If you think NV's quests are boring, 3 and 4 must have killed you with how shitty they were.
>>319868421
That actually sounds like a great playthrough!
Although levelling up sounds like a bitch that way..not that you'd need to if you just run away..
>>319868450
I'm not saying it's THAT bad, m8. But a lot of the quests that I found involving in NV, I also found in FO4, too.
Pointless talking about it, though, as mod quests are always better. So much better.
>>319868528
sounds great, but it wouldn't be that muchfunwhen actually trying it out
>>319868517
Not all of them. The Pitt has particularly good quests, as does Point Lookout. Not to mention the vampire one at Arefu, and the Oasis quests.
But yeah, most of them are sh-t, especially when you get to the Brotherhood of Steel.
>>319868551
Really? Are they voiced? Do they have multiple outcomes? Any recommendations for quest mods before my next playthrough?
>>319868660
>sh-t
That's it, I'm outa' here.
>>319855936
Tried to play 3 so many times and always eventually get bored and stop playing but i recently started playing NV and loving it way more than 3 in terms of characters, environments, side quests and pretty much everything
>i'm a "what do they eat?" kinda guy
>>319868551
All of Fallout 4's quests are literally either fetch quests are "Go here and clear out the raiders"
I cant believe people still fall for the F4 > FNV bait
>>319868976
Eat a bag of sh-t.
>>319868759
For FO4, there aren't any yet.
For NV, i'd really recommend Coito Ergo Sum. It'slike...goddamn, it's like a porn-based DLC, but there's more satire of the vegas filth-scene in it than anything. Adds a load of villages and mansions, and you can run your own playboy-esque empire. It's so good, and actually funny.
>>319868862
Except the ones that aren't? fucking play the game, nigger.
>>319855936
They really need to make New Vegas backwards compatible on xbox one.
>>319869189
is there a scat mod for NV? I know someone who is very interested to know.
>>319861308
>Should I go for it?
The easiest way to describe Fallout 4 is to use already existing games.
Basically, Fallout 4 plays like a Bioshocked S.T.A.L.K.E.R.
You can have the Stalker Atmosphere complete with stalking, scavenging and being careful when playing on survival difficulty, as long as you never touch power armor and never equip armor to get higher armor number, but to have a certain look. Also, don't use weaponmods like quick eject mags or perks like faster reload, or any VATS perk whatsoever, cause you end up making it too easy (I played around in VATS, and honestly, just pushing q every time you see an enemy and then watch an animation how you reck everything gets boring fast).
Oh, and never use a follower. They destroy immersion a lot.
But even if you play it like this (I made a char with sneaking, rifles, automatic weapons and single-shot pistols, just so I could use any non-heavy weapon effectively), it just is a Bioshocked Stalker. Why? If you played Bioshock, you remember how you always find colorful loot in every corner of the game (ammo, health, drugs), which at first will excite you ("I looked behind this corner and there really was something there, nice") but after a few hours and 250+ stimpacks later, it quickly looses its appeal. It's just the same shit over and over again and you will get bored unless you find fun in playing it a certain style. Better than skyrim though, but that's not really an accomplishment.
>>319869414
So be careful to narrow the game down and play it a certain, specific way so it'll be fun......right...
>>319869414
>You can have the Stalker Atmosphere complete with stalking, scavenging and being careful when playing on survival difficulty,
Fuck off.
Fallout 4 isn't atmospheric at all. Around every corner is some jarring example of how poorly built the game world is.
>>319856174
>tfw got like 100 hrs into Fallout 4 and never been to metro because of F3 ptsd
>>319869414
This is probably the most stupid post I've seen regarding Fallout 4.
Good job.
>>319855936
nv makes more sense, and has a beter plot, and also is more fun
but they both keep fucking crashing constantly.
>>319869387
I don't think so. It's got some nudity in it, but it's a really in-depth quest mod with a porno theme more than anything.
>>319860435
>Has some epic main story
you gave yourself out too soon
>>319855936
it settles 5 years ago
FO3 is unholy shit
literally a contender for the worst game in the franchise
...and NV is the exact opposite case
what a competition
I feel fucking bad for anyone who grew up with Fallout 1 and 2, how disappointed you must have been to see your favorite series desecrated with Bethesda's dirty balls.
I'm just here waiting for some of these contrarians to try and pretend that caravan was fun.
It's literally the last lie they have to tell.
>>319863509
you're retarded enough to enjoy fallout 4, go right ahead
>>319855936
Story-wise New Vegas.
Playing-wise fallout 3.
It's really unpopular decision. I disliked Fallout 3's story a lot but weirdly it felt better playing it.
>>319870383
I knew it was going to be bad when I was so disappointed by oblivion and they announced 3...
NV made up for it, though I was skeptical due to the shit that was FO3
>>319870493
Except the gameplay was worse.
NV had some good gameplay additions, much better weapon balance, better character progression, less linear levels, and not as bad level scaling.
>>319870652
That's just the thing. It felt better, but on paper it's not better but worse. I can't explain it.
I'm a ridiculous Bethtard. Their games are literally the only thing keeping me engaged with the hobby, and I still say New Vegas, both on the raw 'fun' and sheer quality. New Vegas is a masterpiece.
>>319870383
I loved the old Fallouts as a kid, even Tactics.
But I still enjoyed FO3 for what it was, a passable loot-selling simulator.
I still realize of course, that FO3 completely fails at being a Fallout game or an RPG and that NV is much better in every way.
>>319870739
Maybe you already got bored of the core gameplay with 3. So NV being very similar was just less fun to you.
>>319856147
same here
>>319870493
>weirdly it felt better playing it.
you're probably just a casual anon
FO3 is significantly easier than NV
NV flat out improved the gameplay from FO3 not that it was a huge improvement but it was something
plus NV has way more enemy variety
no fighting super mutants and/or ghouls for 75% of the game
>>319867029
it's called action rpg
>>319871645
When I hear action RPG I think of games like Zelda, not like FO4,
>>319871949
Zelda is not an RPG by any standard. Think of KH
>>319871949
I thought ARPG was what you called Diablo
>>319872082
Or Deus Ex, or VTM:B
FO4 is still an action RPG, even if the perks are wonky. There are too many stats for it to defy the modern definition comfortably.
>>319856174
>chevy chase
wasn't he the old guy in community?
>>319872082
What are you talking about?
Zelda used to be THE action rpg
>>319872178
I call that Hack & Slash
>>319872320
yep. That guy named himself after the place. His real name is Cornelius Crane, which makes me wonder why he changed it.
>create an entirely new weapon crafting mechanic as the core of your game's equipment system
>which is completely pointless since you will never bother with anything but the max damage mods
>>319872386
Zelda does not feature roleplaying, leveling up, character stats, party members, or anything else that would mark it as an RPG.
