>jrpg has levels up to 100
>the game is balanced so that you finish at level 45ish
Why does this happen so much?
Because then you can beat the ultra hard post-game secret boss.
>>319830164
Do you even Omega Weapon?
>>319830164
>>319830164
for casuals who need to grind or for super ultra bosses, SMT4 will take you up to around level 86 out of 99 before post game if you get the neutral route
>>319830164
it's a way of letting you set the difficulty yourself
>>319830164
>game has a completely realistic level cap that accurately reflects the level a player is likely to be by the time they finish the game's meaningful content, without serious grinding along the way
Have any games ever done this?
>>319830164
Those extra 55 levels are an option for literal retards who need to grind to beat the game.
>>319832324
Yes, but not rpgs.
I have one serious question: Has ANYONE on /v/ ever leveled up a digimon in digimon world to lvl 99 legitmaly?
No one I ever talked with here did so
>>319833264
I meant digimon world 2. The one with the fusions
>>319830164
which games do that i wonder? You posted artwork from final fantasy, but the first game's level cap is 40 or 50.
>>319833552
Every other final fantasy does that.
what level was your partyfags at in FF8 at the end?
>>319831389
>FFX
>>319833345
it took me like 150 hours to get a level 31 mega.
It's the grindiest game I ever played.
>>319833698
I'm pretty sure 4 the max is 99 and you'll be lvl 65. 7 You'll level up pretty fast, i mean i was lvl 75 without grinding but yea the endboss was a joke, but ruby and emerald are still hard at 99, i don't remember if 8 had levels for your characters, i think it was based all on junctions and the summons had levels. 9 also you'll be 60-70 easy, 10 doesn't have levels, 11 you'll be max level to do max level content, 12 i've never actually played but the ds version you'll need to be 99 for the endboss, 13 doesn't have levels, 13-2 you'll be lvl 99 for most roles by the end easily.
I dunno man sounds like you're full of shit.
>>319833847
my 3 highest were squall at 42, zell at 20 something and quistis at like 17
>>319834181
i meant at the end of disc 4 m8
I remember ff4 on snes being finishable at level 60 or something
I never even considered grinding for more than a few extra levels once I reached the last boss
the word autism gets thrown around a lot, but simply assuming you're expected by the designer of the game to max out numbers inside a computer might represent a misunderstanding on your part
>>319832324
There was a PS1 SRPG called Eternal Eyes where you ended the game right around level 99
>>319834352
i know, that's what my levels were when i beat ulti
>>319834158
>I'm pretty sure 4 the max is 99 and you'll be lvl 65.
How in the fuck do you people overlevel like this? I finished that game at 53.
I like to become as powerful as a game will allow me to be
Leveling in 8 was pointless because all the enemies would level with you. It was actually a benefit to stay low
>>319836317
how did you underlevel like that? did you run from every single fight?
In FFV your stats never change besides HP, MP and levels determining what you get if you use the Animals and Gaia commands
All stat manipulation is through gear and mastering classes
>>319836552
Card and Card Mod.
And exploiting the card game rules so that shit like Random doesn't spread.
>>319831601
What postgame?
I think I beat M&L SS at level 20 each. Tried to only get exp from bosses
>>319830164
You ever been to a JRPG thread where a handful of people whine and bitch about how the game being discussed is retarded easy because you just have to "grind and mash attack" (so every JRPG thread on /v/ ever)? It's for those literal retards
>>319836552
You could use GF stat up bonuses to get an edge over enemies. But yes the level scaling was stupid. The whole game was in fact
>>319831601
>people shit on SM4 for the easy bosses in the end
>gets their ass pounded by the first two bosses
>completes the game beyond lvl 80+
I don't get this. if the game was easy then level wouldn't factor.
>>319839045
wut
He was just saying you'd get up to that level normally playing the game
Which you do, I think I was around 83 when I finished neutral? And I don't grind because I don't enjoy dicks
>>319832324
Ys games
>>319834158
8 was fucking backwards. you have a harder time fighting the end bosses if you level up your characters.
>game has exp based levels with no level cap
>you never attain enlightenment and have to go through the wheel of reincarnation again
>>319832324
Depends, trails in the sky has soft caps where while the game engine doesn't have any real hard cap beyond 150 iirc (it might just be 3rd where that's the case and it's only 100 in FC and SC) but after a certain point you just start getting 1 xp from every mob at about 2 levels over where they intend for you to be and that includes the end of the game.
>>319830164
fucking tales games. the max level is like 250 or some shit. finishing the first playthough around 70+ or something low in vesperia. I never did once broke 150+ in those games. jesus
>Game level cap is 30
>Majority of your mains knights and monsters are on 30 near the end.
>jrpg is a cakewalk the entire time until the final boss that requires you to grind to make it somewhat fair
every time
>>319839659
did he died ? ??
>>319830164
A lot of JRPGs that do this have 'post game' or whatever content that's scaled 1.5 - 2x harder than story shit.
>>319840398
I actually can't think of any JRPG like that
The only thing that comes to mind where the final boss was a major difficulty spike compared to everything leading up to it was Final Fantasy V, but if you were using the job system like you were supposed to you could still deal with him just fine.
>>319840727
FFX was like that for me. I didn't grind a single bit and just played the game and when I got to that final Seymour and the Jecht chest sword fight, I was getting railed with reckless abandon. Finally I just gave up and went grinding and then it was a cake walk.
Man, Amano's Garland still amazes me.
>>319841043
I feel like the spike in FFX started a while before the final boss though. Enemies start to outpace the party around the Calm Lands on a normal playthrough as their damage/health/abilities suddenly scale up a lot, and random encounters around that point in the game start to take forever if you're not prepared.
The difficulty/level curve is still dumb (and I'm really not a fan of FFX to begin with), but it's not like the final boss just suddenly blindsides you when everything before it was easy. There's a clear ramp up to it.
>>319841540
I don't know man, I also got raped by Jecht several times on my first playthrough until I grinded for Holy. That was before knowing about Trio of 9999 though
>>319834158
>correct more or less about 4
>7 overleveled by like 25
>8 has levels that scale the enemies and can reach 100
>9 overleveled by like 30-40 maybe 15-30 if you grinded for all abilities
>>319833552
The remakes of ff1 made the level cap 99
>you can break the game and get to the last boss level 500+
damn, I love disgaea
>ys
>normally you'd finish the game at ~45-51
>at max lvl which is 60 the bosses are so easy that even on the hardest difficulty you'd never take more than 2 dmg
