Was Touhou the worst thing to happen to the shmups genre?
But without it, we wouldn't have Clownpiece.
>>319740771
No just clownpiss
>>319740771
No, the worst thing to ever happen to shmups is that Hellsinker will never get a sequel.
>>319740771
Clownpiece has a cute hat!bombs are a bad mechanic, that directly go against the fun in shmups, which is dodging bullets
>>319741273
Which games dont have bombs then? Only one I can think of is Alltynex Second.
2hu doesn't have any affect on other shump franchises, so no.
>>319741480
Cave started adding visible hitboxes in their boolet hell games in response to 2hu's popularity.
No, Konami jumping ship is what ruined the genre.
It's pretty telling when Gradius V, which was practically copy+paste the old titles was the last good shmup.
>>319742407
I liked Gradius V up until that stage with the gas, and then it forces you to scroll to the left while facing backwards.
Fuck that shit. Gradius was meant to go left to right, not in anyother direction.
>>319741359
Exactly, I'm saying bombs (and the fact the game clears, and often scoring as well) are tied to bomb use is what gives shmups less appeal.
>>319742495
>All 4 options let you shoot stuff behind you
>You keep options upon death
Worst case scenario, you just dodge. I hate it, Gradius is not meant to be fair.
>>319742552
That and promoting the undeniable pinnacle of autism - Moe.
>>319742407
So there hasnt been a good shmup since 2004?
>>319742756
And there hasn't been a great shmup since 1989.
For me shmups ended with R-type dying.
>>319742839
Darius Gaiden came out in 1989?
>>319741273
You can still do NMNB run, though.
Bomb is made for casual run or people who are not good enough to not use it.
>>319742964
Fair point. There hasn't been a great and hard shmup since 1989.
>>319742996
>Bomb is made for casual run
nigga, do you even score?
>>319743139
Unless you are playing Touhou 14, you probally won't bomb for score
>>319743312
every touhou game rewards milking certain patterns by bombing though
>>319743570
What? You can't capture Spell Cards if you bomb.
>>319743570
The score bonus for capturing attacks is higher than what you can get for bombing
You probally mean bombing so you can reach the point of collection to gather all blue score items at max value
I know this game is 50$ but it's fun and there's so much to do.
>all your favorite shmup series are dead
How do you cope up with this?
>>319744167
Darius Burst?
>>319743642
>>319743726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iktPd_lh-eY&t=5m55s
You lot need to learn how to play touhou.
Best Touhou game is Touhou 7
Worst Touhou game is Touhou 10
>>319742996
We are talking about why shmups fell off, and I said why. Bombs are a counter-intuitive mechanic that nearly every single shmup features and are balanced around
Of course you can manually do no bomb runs, but it's not satisfying to (for 2hu particularly) to have your clear end on the final stage, because you received no compensation for playing the way the game should have been designed.
That's the other problem with many shmups, late difficulty spikes are awful not because of the difficulty, but because you have to slog through baby shit in the beginning.
It's why I prefer games like SA and UFO
>>319744336
>thinking that is bombing for score
>not realising that that is just using bombs to get a lot of graze
>>319744358
Best Touhou game is 3 and 9
Worst Touhou game is all the rest
>>319744183
But anon.Touhou is still going
Dont know about Siter Skain though.
>>319744316
Yep. It's a lot to ask for a SHMUP these days but it has a lot of game to it.
>>319744492
You're also getting points from the bullets turning into green shit because of the bomb, dummy.
>>319744387i like watching shmups because i'm too shit at them. i've tried improving on some of the easier touhous, but i can barely get past stage 2. I'm doomed to be a secondary faggot.
>>319744630
That does not give a lot of score, its mostly done for the graze
Also, that is only do-able with Reimu-A, since that's the only time a characters bomb clears the bullets after the bomb, allowing the bullets to be grazed
Also, Parsee's pattern here collapses on itself, allowing for a lot of graze when using that method, but bombing for score is onlu justifiable in this situation
>>319744517
I love Siter Skain's SHMUPs so much. All of them have interesting scoring mechanics, no bombs to fall back on if you fuck up. You have to manage all the ship's abilities to score and survive.
>>319744742
Didn't mean to reply.
>>319744509
>Phantasmagoria
My nigga.
>>319744834
Reimu-A is by far the best anyways
>>319745018
Yeah, she is my prefered shottype in SA
But her bomb is rather weak, only good for clearing
>>319744183
Good, Twinkle Star Sprites sequel was a fucking travesty. Thankfully, the original is still there.
>>319744834
So going back to the original argument, it's intended to use bombs in Touhou, which makes Touhou shit.
Play a real man's shump that don't need no bombs, like Gradius 3.
>>319740771
Yes, but Touhou porn was the best thing to happen to my dick.
I don't even know what the characters are supposed to be. Like the kappa girl, I don't even know if she's a child or old, or loli or oppai loli. Whatever, but I can't stop masturbating to her porn.
So thanks, Touhou.
>>319745305
>unintended oversight
>game was made for bombing
ZUN is a shitty programmer, that was unintentional. Capturing attacks is far more rewarding than bombing.
>>319744834
>>319745018
>>319745115
>he doesn't know how to use Reimu C
>>319745017
Will there ever be a third Phantasmagoria, or is ZUN too shit to do something that cool now?
>>319745546
>not playing Marisa B
>>319744167
It has become my favourite game, sure won me over
>>319745703
>tfw best shot type in 2hu got put in one of the shittiest Touhou games
>>319744167
hope it goes on sale during christmas
>>319745554
I fucking wish anon and I hope he put more fun gimmicks in it.
>>319745786
>Marisa becomes a shittier playable with every game
>>319741273
Don't use them then
>>319742407
>not playing indie shmups
Shmups are not a genre that needs to be AAA or even AA.
>>319745814
At the very least they'll probably put the 20% off sale that they had for the first week.
>>319745786
>meanwhile best game difficulty-wise has shittiest shot-types
>>319745703
Dumb Suwakoposter.
>>319740771
Delete this post.
shitposting in a shitposting thread
Any good shmups released in the last 5 years that aren't steam port and obvious waifu pandering?
>>319746537
Raiden V, Xbone exclusive.
Enjoy my friend!
>>319746537
great fairy wars (okay, it's been 5 years and a few months now)
>>319746581
>shmup on console
>>319746537
Alltynex Second.
>>319746537
Dariusburst CS, it's on steam though, no waifus, also on psvita and ps4
>>319746537
Crimzon Clover if you're into manic shooters.
>>319746603
>no waifu pandering
>suggests a touhou game
Ok
>>319747040
did you ever look at the original touhou art?
>>319747121
I did
Just because it isn't drawn well does not mean it isn't waifu pandering
>>319747165
just because they're female doesn't mean it is waifu pandering. If you want to pander to waifu faggots you're gonna use some kind of generic anime style with light clothes. Touhou is probably the furthest you can get from that (in the shooting games)
>>319746537
>caring about aesthetics over gameplay
>>319747007
All style no substance: the shmup.
>>319740771
Nah. There are far worse shmups out there.
>>319747361
And I don't even like the style
>>319747298
Like this?
>>319747681
I like Reco, but I would play the game if it was chris-chan who was depicted, it's an actual good game
>>319747681
Close but you should pick Deathsmiles.
At least Muneshihimesama is solid.
>>319747731
>actual good game
Futari 1.5, maybe. First Mooshy is trash though.
>>319743058
g-darius is much harder than gaiden
>>319744517
siter skain just takes a while. they released a demo for their new game, armed dragoon, at c88
>>319747361
you are why this genre died
>>319747976
I liked both
The first one has some kind of magic I like, can't pinpoint exactly what it is, initially I even liked it more than futari even
>>319748067
>g-darius is much harder than gaiden
Yes? My post specifically states Gaiden is easy.
>>319741061
hellsinker is to akashicverse what radiant silvergun is to ikaruga, even if it's by a different developer
>>319747824
>Mushihimesama
How do you even say it.
>>319748314
i'm saying go play g-darius
>>319740771
>was <insert game> keeping <insert genre> alive the worst thing for <insert genre>
Yes.
>>319748410
"moo-she-he-may-sah-ma"
>>319748473
This is because <insert genre> should have died and seen a revival after a few years, but was put on lifesupport by <completely unrelated and probably terrible reasons> and will never be reborn.
>>319747976
>First Mooshy is trash though.
Yeah, no.
>>319748337
So Hellsinker is better?
>>319748630
radiant silvergun is not a good game. it's an interesting game, but it's not a good game
ikaruga is a good game. it's a meme game, but it's a good game
>>319748704
I wholly disagree aside from the chaining system (which is fixed with Xbox 360 version's Ikaruga mode (which hopefully is included in the inevitable Steam port of RSG)).
What shmup where random bullets are much more frequent?
>>319748764
Gradius at any intensity above two options. 3 arcade has multiple unavoidable bullet storms.
>>319748585
it's seen twenty million real revivals in the past 10 years. raiden 3 and 4, darius burst, strania, kokuga, hellsinker... people do not want these games.
most of the games in this genre kinda suck. the games that have been coming out recently are among the best.
>>319748585
>if you don't garner any interest in a series it will thrive
You've got some flawless logic there anon.
>>319748764
geometry wars
>>319748704
Ikaruga has a myriad of flaws I can't understand why people seem to ignore. Scoring system is frankly crap. Granted, it's not as bad as RSG's scoring where you could only kill 1/3rd of the enemy type per section, and at least it doesn't tie into your ship's power like RSG did (though playing Ikaruga for survival is extremely dull). But its chaining means you have to perfectly shoot in the order Treasure wants you to, unless you want to break your chain by shooting whatever you feel like (or the even lamer option of having to let enemies pass you by since you're afraid of getting a chain broken). So prepare to play like a robot if you ever want to score well in Ikaruga, where routes are even more strict and less free than Dodonpachi. It also has the infamy of being called super difficult because the game gives you absolutely no items once, so the only way to get extends is first learning the ins/outs of the game in order to score well. But by that point you should be able to no-miss Ikaruga, so what was the point then? Now the polarity mechanics are awful because swapping color invalidates practically all bullet patterns in the game, since you can just absorb everything in your way rendering whatever looks impossible meaningless. This seems neat at first until it becomes a chore to soak up all bullets on screen to raise your score, after you cope with it making survival play a boring cakewalk. Boss designs are rubbish save for the first and last guys. Mooks have no life to them; most don't even shoot at you and simply drift away. This plus the chaining has it feeling more like playing a puzzle game instead of an actual shump. Not to mention how it's grossly overrated due to its OST and graphics (if you dig sepia tones making backgrounds look like dogshit) by people who hardly even play shumps. Ikaruga is just a bad game that for some reason has a cult following that loves to bitch at you if you happen to question the quality of their beloved masterpiece.
>>319748764
pofv
>>319749064
pofv is boring, just spam level 2s to win
>>319749106
nice meme, mind if I save it?
>>319740771
No, but its current fanbase is.
Look at >>319694897
"ikaruga is a bad game because i don't like the scoring, although i admit that rsg is so much worse"
"i probably don't know anything about playing any shmup well, so ikaruga being so honest about needing to be perfect really puts me off, even though being perfect in ikaruga is MUCH easier than being perfect in a cave game"
"i couldn't even get the extends, even though there are more than six times as many points"
"i only played ijji modo ecks dee"
there is an ikaruga cult but those people have played the game less than you have. i'm bitching at you because you're wrong
>>319749231
Shimi please.
>>319749231
I don't like that so many people like the characters over the actual games, but at least Touhoumon is cute. You could do worse.
>>319749290
Who are you quoting literally?
>>319740771
Yes, and to Japanese culture in general. Touhou's massive meme status is a huge cancer on nip media as everyone wants to get those moe loli bucks.
>>319745892
But she went from average in TD to game breaking in DDC.
>>319749673
And to absolute shit in LoLK
Also, only Marisa-B was gamebreaking thanks to an overpowered bomb
>>319749616
>anime lolis didn't exist before Touhou
>>319749724
B is for bombs, bugged, and ~ b e s t ~
>>319749754
those were made for little girls though
>>319749724
>And to absolute shit in LoLK
I mean maybe if you're a shitty player, yeah.
The issue is less Marisa being bad, which she isn't, and more that you're comparing her to Reisen and Sanae, who are game breaking in their own ways.
>>319749754
Still can't imagine why anyone would ever prefer dolled-up infants to being a fucking ace pilot in space shooting up mechas.
>>319746537
hydorah was released in 2010
jamestown was released in 2011
5 years is a pretty big window, i'm sure there's been plenty
God tier: Toaplan / Cave (pre-PGM) / Raizing / Orange-Juice / Ruminant's Whimper
High Tier: Psikyo / Seibu / Technosoft / Siter-Skain / Daisessen
Medium Tier: Taito / Squaresoft / Takumi / Irem / NMK / Yotsubane / G-Rev / Platine Dispositif
Low Tier: Cave (post-PGM) / Konami / Edelweiss / Treasure / RebRank / Qute
Shit Tier: Euroshmups
Trash tier: Team Shanghai Alice
>>319749835
Yeah.
You have no reason to play as Marisa in LoLK because all the other playables outclass her.
Giving Marisa her infinite penetrating lasers would do wonders
>>319749915
Most Gradius games are stupid, your only real choice is Gaiden
>>319749915
Because if you want to be a space pilot you play Elite or a fucking Freelancer and not shmup.
>>319749948
Opinions tier: Your list
>>319749948
>>319749948
>Ikeda/Cave in god when he's been rehashing the same shitty game since he left Toaplan
>Squareshit in the same tier as based Taito or NMK or Takumi or IREM when they only did one mediocre and hugely overrated memorizer
You came close, but you still failed.
>>319749990
Adding penetration to her laser wouldn't change the fact that you're comparing her to two fundamentally broken shottypes.
>>319750170
Whats broken about Sanae and Reisen?
>>319749948
pre-pgm cave really isn't as good, needs naut mark and trisgram, rebrank really needs to be on a lower rung than like everything because refrain is not a good game and samidare is only half a game
>>319750149
none of ikeda's games play anything like each other except maybe ddp and doj
>>319750265
If I had to guess, both Sanae's bomb and shot type, and Reisen's bomb as well.
>>319750289
also needs jynx, who's really good when they're not being {unreal}
>>319750265
Are you being serious? Sanae's bomb combined high damage with insane graze potential, while Reisen's bomb makes Extra a cake walk.
>>319750434
len'en games are fucking faggy shit
>>319750375
>>319750529
thanks, those are some valid points
>>319750351
all ikeda games play the same shit, just stream bullets and bomb if you fuck up and get cornered
>>319750956
all shmups with bombs are like that lol
>Bullet hell shitters
>LEL IM SO HARD-CORE MIKASA IS MAI WAIFU
>Try to play a real game
>WTF WHY CAN'T I HIT THIS BOSS WHY CAN'T I SHOOT BACKWARDS WHY ARE THESE BULLETS UNAVOIDABLE
>BOMBS WHERE CHECKPOINT WHERE WHY I LOSE ALL MY POWERUPS THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE 0/10 BROKEN GAEM IMMA GO JERK OFF INSTEAD
>>319751142
none of this makes any sense
only games that actually let you shoot backwards are deathsmiles and... darius burst
old games are the ones with checkpoints
old games making you lose powerups either strongly encourages or requires a reset simply for survival
>>319751349
i love old games. checkpoints are often designed poorly in them and powerup syndrome is the worst thing in video games
>>319751085
i think we figured out why danmaku is shit, folks
>>319751528
old games have bombs too, and are even worse about streaming
>ZUN will stop making 2hu games within your lifetime
I cried when IREM died.
>>319751562
the problem is, ikeda never learns from his mistakes and still shits out bad design
it's either
>bullet wall with massive slowdown you have to microtap to dodge
or
>aimed bullets that you need to stream
in every fucking game he makes, it's sad
the people who say things like "i cried when <old company> died" should be forced to take some of their games seriously for a little while
>>319751881
that second bit is literally 90% of shmups
that first bit is pretty much why people-who-actually-play-games AND people-who-don't-actually-play-games even like cave
>>319751894
I thought it's SOAD reference
>>319750014
>implying I, II, IV and V aren't good Gradius games
Why is every shmup about space sheeps?
>>319752363
maybe. a lot of people say things like that though
>>319752454
1 is a good game. 2 is a bit silly at times, and not as well-made as the first, but still alright. 3 is just plain busted. 4 isn't as busted as 3, maybe a bit more busted than 2. 5 is a totally different kind of game entirely, and a very boring one.
>>319752778
i don't know anything about gaiden really, but from what i have heard it might be as well-made as 1
>>319752737
I'd say there's more military and fantasy themed shumps than spess ships these days.
>>319752737
>shmup about space sheeps
such as?
>>319753000
gridrunner
(he's saying "ships")
>>319752737
Because space is cool as shit nigger
Touhou has always been more about pretty patterns than difficulty. That's why it's so casualized compared to other shmups. You can't enjoy the pretty patterns if they're moving too fast, after all.
the casualization in touhou is people thinking touhou is casual
>>319754078
Compared to certain other games where bullets move much faster, it kinda is.
Seihou is considered to be more difficult than Touhou due to this fact.
>>319754078
>le play touhou for score meme
Touhou would have to be interesting first.
>>319754138
usually games with faster patterns have slowdown that makes the patterns just as slow (or they are psykio which is completely different alltogether)
>>319754614
I fucking hate slowdowns.
>hurr look at how fast our game is, just kidding. Have fun dodgin bullets at silky smooth 15 fps.
>>319753805
I think Touhou has always been about music and setting.
That's what makes Touhou stand out, as well as having fun spin-offs.
>>319754781
Music and setting are unique great, but from a gameplay standpoint, ZUN has always been passionate about patterns. He even wrote an entire book about Spell Cards from an in-universe perspective.
That being said, everything about Touhou is heavily focused on the characters. The music as well as the bullet patterns are designed specifically with the characters in mind. In fact, it's an in-universe rule that Spell Cards have to be meaningful and symbolic to the user.
>>319754781
touhou stands out in many ways from other shmups (and no it's not generally more easy)
Touhou is fucking shite. Just look at all these flaws the series has:
>no looping
>visible hitboxes
>far too many resources
>.5s-2s deathbomb window
>lame / non-existent rank system
>shottypes and patterns that ripoff other, better games
>boss attacks happen in predictable sections ("spellcards")
>scoring system is too grindy and dull (grazing/poc'ing suck)
>stages have utterly terrible pacing and enemy placements
>the graphics, art, sounds and music are all laughably awful
>TLB is relegated to optional stage instead of the main game
>the fanbase is cancerous and most don't even play shumps
Gas yourselves, 2hufuckers.
>>319755162
>Hating Touhou music
I bet you hate Thunder Force IV's soundtrack too you raging homosexual
>>319755296
he's just a troll, no need to reply
>>319755296
Nope I rather like Technosoft's soundtracks actually. They shit all over 2hu songs too.
>Cho Ren Sha remake/sequel never
>>319748764Len'en 4 has random generated stages.
>>319740771
No, and personally I feel as if people who hate it miss the entire point of it.
People who say shit like waifu bait and all that nonsense completely miss the point of the series when they barely played it if at all.
Anyone else play SUGURI/sora here?
>>319741359
Jamestown?
>>319748067
>>319748418
How are humans expected to 1CC G-Darius? Honest question.
>>319760540
Get god, learn the patterns, and wise use of the capture balls
>>319747298
>light clothes
Fapping has nothing to do with waifus, unless you are a 15 yo or a newfag
>>319740771
I want to fuck that clown.
>>319761027
I'd argue that it has a lot to do with characters who are specifically supposed to be waifubait/pandering.
>>319740771
Post delicious clown
>>319761027
did you come from /a/ and just ctrl+f this thread for waifu? If you read the context you would have noticed that I was talking about pandering to otaku zombies, which works a lot better with light clothes
People still play this weeb shit?
Just play Undertale or something, its pretty much the same gameplay but with ACTUAL story
>>319746537
>>319747040
>>319747165
>pandering
Myth. Practically does not exist. You see, Japanese developers, artists and writers actually like cute female characters and include them in their works because of that.
>>319761207
Well it isn't. A waifu is a female fictional character you give yourself to.
>>319761286
No fuck I hate /a/.
>I was talking about pandering to otaku zombies
Well that makes a lot more sense, and you are right there
>>319761163
Who doesn't
>>319761396
>waifu is a female fictional character you give yourself to.
Again, it works well with characters specifically DESIGNED for that purpose, hence the term "waifubait" nobody is saying it's a requirement for all waifus because that can be literally anything.
>>319761531
>waifubait
Not a real thing, and doesn't make any sense.
>>319761631
Sure, anon.
Clownpiss is the worst thing that happend to Touhou.
>>319761729
Yes, I in fact am sure.
You people just can't stand moe, but instead of simply saying so you concoct all these ridiculous rationalizations and try to pin the blame on someone else ("They're pandering! They're baiting!").
>>319748704
Both RSG and Ikaruga have stupid ass scoring but RSG is much more interesting overall (all those weapons and bosses), Ikaruga only has the style going for it
Hellsinker is all about the style too but at least the gameplay feels fun, it's pretty easy but has wtf scoring
Akashicverse has actual challenge and the scoring is based on risking an instant gameover, but it's not quite hellsinker in style
>>319761880
Sure anon.
>all those assumptions
>>319761942
I didn't assume anything.
>>319762013
Okay anon.
>>319761531
But that way you make it sound as if any female character could be waifubait which is bullshit
>>319762172
I never said anything of that sort, only that it does help/ has something to do with characters that are. Hence the likes of Shimakaze and such who have literally no other appeal.
>>319762296
Character made for fappin arent waifubait anon.
Waifubait itself is nothing but a buzzword for the female character you don't like
>>319762390
>Character made for fappin arent waifubait anon.
You can literally make said character your wife in the game, Kantai collection lives off of that fact.
Since you guys are talking about Shimmy, I guess it's about time that guy shows up.
>>319762569
No, fuck her we only need more CP fanart, I have only posted 2 pics and already ran out
>>319762296
A character cannot inherently be a "waifu." That's not possible.
>>319762435
Otaku culture at large revolves around moe. KanColle isn't special.
>>319762630
Therefore, I conclude that CP's 2hu's take on Shimmy.Like that isn't obvious already. ZUN might have been inspired by the boatsluts. What are you dong to him, Kadokawa?!
>>319762697
>A character cannot be inherently be a "waifu."
What the fuck are you smoking?
>>319762697
>A character cannot inherently be a "waifu."
Congratulations for not getting the point, I never said that, for fucksake do you honestly think there's no characters on earth designed to appeal to people or specifically otaku interests for merchandise and the like?
>>319762830
>What the fuck are you smoking?
What makes you think a character can inherently be a waifu? Do you also think a woman can inherently be a wife? Or could it be that she needs to get married first?
>>319762910
Do you honestly think there's something wrong with making characters that people will like? You are just projecting your own dislike of moe onto Japanese creators.
>>319762910
Of course there are. But you make it sounds as if it was bad for people to like those characters
>>319763072
Point out where I made it sounds like that and sure I'll apologize, I only talked about light clothes being a factor.
>>319763028
>You are just projecting your own dislike of moe onto Japanese creators.
There you are again with those assumptions, what makes you think I like or dislike it?
>>319763028
>Do you also think a woman can inherently be a wife?
/r9k/ pls.
>>319745914
>Le chose not to use shit the game is balanced around and make it harder by giving yourself arbitrary restrictions that aren't acknowledged anywhere
>>319749915
Because mahou shoujo have better plots, characters and kinomatography.
>>319749915
>space shooters
Play some Action52 then
>>319763364
If you didn't dislike it then you wouldn't be saying all this stupid shit. And why do you keep being so evasive? You are not arguing or explaining anything, just denying things.
>>319761493
I would rather taker her to a nice stroll.
Clownpiece is the worst Touhou Girl
Wakasagihime is the best
>>319751349
There's a backwards shot in Thunder Force IV.
>>319753736
I hope someone punctures her oxygen tank.
>>319764212
>the fish
Of all the things, you take the fish.
>>319763986
>If you didn't dislike it then you wouldn't be saying all this stupid shit
Tell me how clothing has nothing to do with it
>You are not arguing
because this just boils down to what you think and what I think and It's too fucking early to sit down and do this shit, there's nothing wrong with moe but there are infact characters who can be correctly classified as waifubait and clothes are a factor with it.
>>319765135
The fish is fucking adorable
>>319765135
And if you thought pantyhose on a mermaid was crazy
>http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1580084?tags=hemogurobin_a1c+wakasagihime
>>319765167
>Tell me how clothing has nothing to do with it
What are you talking about?
>because this just boils down to what you think and what I think and It's too fucking early to sit down and do this shit, there's nothing wrong with moe but there are infact characters who can be correctly classified as waifubait and clothes are a factor with it.
Waifubait does not exist. It's a rationalization invented by moephobes.
>>319741359
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Shut the fuck up you faggots, I'll play all the skimpy clothed girls and ships as I want.
>>319765374
>Waifubait does not exist. It's a rationalization invented by moephobes.
There we go again with seperate opinions
>What are you talking about?
For fucksake don't tell me you don't even know which anon you're even replying to.
>>319765310
When will he stop drawing Hecatia? She has 3 pages already.
Not that I hate her, but when she was introduced, she was shat on. Quite a lot. Her design's crazy, but I see hemo gave her some justice.
>>319765492
>There we go again with seperate opinions
What "separate opinions"?
>For fucksake don't tell me you don't even know which anon you're even replying to.
I do, and I don't remember saying anything about any clothes.
>>319765909
>I do, and I don't remember saying anything about any clothes.
You obviously don't, hell something tells me you weren't even around for the conversation start.
Which goes back to my previous post, it's too early for this dumbass argument about pure opinions.
>>319765553
Let him draw what the fuck he wants.
She is clearly is new favourite.
Just like it was the fish when DDC came out.
>>319766112
It's just that compared to Whappasnappa-hime, it's just nothing, man. I'm getting infected by hemo's devotion.
>>319766513
Good.
Now convert that devotion into something productive, like he does.
It was among the best things actually, even if you don't like the games or they suck. This is solely because it's amongst the highest exposure to a mainstream audience the genre ever got in modern times.
It's the same thing as street fighter 4 and fighting games or brutal doom and doom mods
You get kicked out instantly if you lose all lives at stage 6?
C'mon man I barely can practise there, it my first time there.
>>319766832
Use Stage Practice
>>319766952
I don't think Touhou 4 have stage practice.
>>319767013
>having trouble with the easiest PC98 Touhou game
If it doesn't have stage practice , just try again
>>319767405
>4
>easiest
>not 3
I beat it in one sitting, and as you can see from my previous post, I'm a huge casual that finally enter stage 6 after playing more than three days.
>>319767685
try playing PoDD on lunatic
>>319767685
Why are you playing the PC98 games in the first place?
>>319767931
>not consuming all Touhou official works.
>>319763709
How is a game balanced around bombing in the first place?
>>319768104
>reading the "official" manga
No thank you.
>>319768104
>not playing them after you finish the Windows era games
Also the PC98 games have eyehurtingly bright flashes constantly
>>319768182
>not consuming all Touhou official works
Also, not sure why you used quotes there, it's all by ZUN.
>>319768209
>not playing in order in one giant marathon
>>319767931
How can I stop being secondary when?
Also doing lunatic can wait until I can finish all the games in normal.
>>319768306
No, it's approved by ZUN.
>>319768306
>playing the games in chronological order
>not realising Touhou 1 to 5 are not canon
>>319768379
It's literally written by ZUN, the only thing he doesn't do is actually drawing the mange.
Quit being retarded.
>>319768434
>implying canonically has anything to do with playing a series in order
Even if you're wrong, that has nothing to do with that statement.
>>319768493
manga*
>>319768493
The PC98 games are so old that only fans would actually play them, nobody would use those games as a starting point nowadays
>>319768790
There's people who have, and people who would.
What you think /=/ what they think
>>319768857
>there are people who don't use LoLK lunatic as a starting point
>>319768493
I doubt ZUN can write an entire storyboard.
>>319768790
What about people like me that like to play game from chronological series order?
>>319769397
>I doubt ZUN can write an entire storyboard.
You can doubt a lot of things, but that doesn't change the fact that ZUN wrote the fucking story for the manga.
>>319769593
Yeah, he probably just threw a bunch of ideas on paper and the manga circle went over it and "refined" his ideas.
>>319770041
>Yeah, he probably just threw a bunch of ideas on paper and the manga circle went over it and "refined" his ideas.
You seem to enjoy making assumptions anon, doesn't change the fact that it is official and he definitely works on it. I bet you think he doesn't write Curiosities of Lotus Asia and Cage in Lunatic Runagate.
>>319770041
You know the mangas even say that ZUN is the writer?
>>319770475
Yeah.
He has his hand in it, but also do other people.
I only trust sources where only ZUN worked on. I'm sure all kinds of faggots tried to shove their ideas into ZUNs mind.
>>319770656
You literally think ZUN didn't control the story for Lotus Asia or CiLR? quit making up bullshit to fit the fact that you didn't read the official works.
This thread needs more patriotism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ykZESqBpVI
