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To save our mother earth from any alien attak,
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So, these games are basically musoushit, but with guns?
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EDF! EDF! EDF!
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>>319739516
More of an arcade shooter.

I suppose one could compare it to Musou games, in that there're a lot of enemies, but they're all generally an actual threat, where Musou games the enemy grunts are just there to build score and special meters.

The lowly black ant can fuck your shit up just as much as the hector. Just takes a couple dozen.
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>>319739429
Would you say that we're... Protecting the world from devastation?
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EDF! EDF! EDF!

Fuck the title, they should have subnamed it Starship Troopers.
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THE EDF DEPLOYS!
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FUCK THIS FUCKING ANT QUEEN MISSION IN 4.1 LIKE MISSION 36 OR SOMETHING FUCK UNDEGROUND LEVELS ALTOGETHER I HAVE TO FUCKING CARRY THE NAPALM LAUNCHER WITH SO THAT I CAN ACTUALLY FUCKING SEE SHIT
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>>319740112
I guess it's based on Japanese self defense force.
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>allies talking about steaks and how their wives have their favorite meals waiting at home
>they all get massacred 3 seconds later
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>>319740189
The underground missions are a lot more hectic when it's not full-bright all the time.

The depth crawler is a pretty good vehicle, even without the lights it has.

>>319740310
The EDF emblem is one giant death-flag. They're just waving it.
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>EU release in february

fuck you
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>>319740310
Duh. Never mention your family before mission.
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OUR SOLDIER ARE PREPARED FOR ANY ALIEN THREATS!
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>EDF 4.2 coming to Steam
GET HYPE
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this game is fun
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>Try to do a mission with Air Raider so I can unlock some weapons
>Bring artillery strike and tank
>Throw the signal
>"Watch out for artillery strikes"
>"Watch out for artillery strikes"
>"Watch out for artillery strikes"
>Strike hits
>All my teammates die
>The next 20 minutes is me running from a horde of giant spiders in my tank

There have been so many times that I accidentally kill or let my team mates die and I had to struggle with an alien army by myself. And I still fucking manage to complete the mission and have a a lot of fun.
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>>319740586
>4.2
Now I feel like I got cheated for buying 4.1
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>>319740683
>doing co-op
>air raiders ekeep nuking other teammates
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>>319740586
source?
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>>319739516
Harder than Musou, that's for sure.
Musou is only hard in Chaos and if you let yourself get hit. In EDF, you WILL get hit
Damage modifier from Normal to Hard is no joke either
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>>319741007
Not only that but FUCKING HECTORS can juggle you with fucking no effort especially when sitting behind shield bearers like the fucking assholes that they are
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>>319740112
One day Sandlot will get the picture and obtain the rights to produce a SST themed EDF game.

Also still waiting on my god damn copy of 4.1 to ship.
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>>319741007
>you WILL get hit
Unavoidable damage doesn't sound like a very attractive game design either, to be honest.
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Sorry, first EDF game but am I the only one loving the fucking SCALE that this game has? And the fucking detail in these maps as well. I did that mission where you need to destroy the flying insect carriers when they open their hatches, but I didn't bring any long-range weapons on me. So I just fucking did some sight-seeing around the city and just found some buildings with outside stairs so I could shoot the carriers on rooftops. I think that's fucking NUTS that I can play a game that lets me think of something like that. Even simpler shit like shooting a bug off the side of a sky-scraper and watching its pieces fall from the very top is just an incredible feeling.

This game is fucking radical.

>>319739756
Some ants actually chain-grabbed me because all I had to break free from them was the shitty default limpet gun. The explosion always knocked me down and ants just kept picking me back up.
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>>319741414
Stairwells have been a thing in EDF for awhile. Main thing 4.1/2025 have over the rest of the series are some actually not-bad graphics for once.
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>>319741414
>The explosion always knocked me down and ants just kept picking me back up.
>tfw ranger
>tfw if any ant picks me up I just unload rockets at it knowing that even if I get knocked back they'll go flying in random directions
Also had a teammate that managed to get launched into the stratosphere and was stuck bouncing for like 3 minutes
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>>319741414
>detail
It's no GTA but it's good for a game that recycles the same house model hundreds of times side by side.
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>>319741007
>tfw spiderwebs
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>>319740586
>EDF 4.2 coming to Steam
I hope SteamDB is right.
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>>319741414
They do put a lot of effort into the map.

There's really only like 3 or 4 distinct maps, but they're huge, and they drop you in different sections.

That said, it's usually a good idea to have a launcher on Ranger.
Either the limpet sniper or a long-range vehicle on air-raider.

The Vegaulta is a pretty good vehicle, though the Gigantus is the go to tank.
Bazelato and choppers in general require a fine touch. They have innertia on all their movement directions.

Wing-diver and fencer are both very different from the other two.

Wing-diver flies, and is the best at zipping around picking up drops. She can also fight pretty good too.

Fencer is... slow as hell until you learn how to wave-dash/frame-cancel with him. THen he's the gotta-go-fast class that can dual wield miniguns. To frame-cancel, you need a fast firing weapon or shield, faster the better, but the default shield works well enough. When using a horizonal booster, spam the attack (or in shields' cases reflector) button to have that animation cancel out the deaccelleration of the boost. You can then boost again, and get places extremely quickly... Excepting the fencer's worst enemy, the waist high wall.
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EDF A SHIT!

RAVAGERS #1

WE WILL RETURN!
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>>319741978
Only thing I'd hope for with 4.1 on Steam is it being easily moddable, so we can make our own guns/missions.
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>tfw don't know whether to buy this for the ps4 right now or wait a while to see if anything comes out of the steamdb entry

fuck
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>>319742068
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>>319742069
>so we can make our own guns/missions
This will be a whole new level of maddness.

I hope someone mod in some mechas
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>>319741386
It's mostly because the enemies are at least 3x bigger than you and they swarm you like crazy, compare it with Musou where most of your enemies are a bit smaller than your character to make them stand out more

Also, all AOE attacks are friendly fire, so playing co-op would be a blast
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>finally getting the crazy stuff like the launchers that fire 15 rockets per shot
I'm now a human Katyusha
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>>319741561
Well maybe I'm impressed because I didn't expect to see any detail at all in a game like this. I'm playing these missions expecting just a flat surface with generic buildings in a grid or two but then I'm traveling through small neighborhoods, shopping districts, bridges, etc.

I mean, I'm thinking any developer who makes a game where you giant insects/monsters would just make some simple shit and be done with it. Here it looks like fucking google maps sight-seeing in Nip land.
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>>319742143
It's not coming to PC.
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So what's the most up-to date recent release in this series on console
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>>319742302
>would just make some simple shit
This is the first game in the series that looks somewhat decent. Trust me they didn't even try up until this point.
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>>319742418
EDF 4.1, PS4
and EDF2 on Vita too
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>this mission where you're in a wide open field with a bunch of friendly tanks and you're fighting Hectors while friendly airplanes bomb the shit out of them
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>>319742482
Does 4.1 support couch co-op?
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>>319742541
Yes why the fuck wouldn't it?
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>that mission where the framerate drops to unplayable levels
See what I did there?
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>>319742541
2 player couch co-op offline only.

Would have been nice to see 4p or at least 2p online on the PS4 version, but nope.
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>>319742437
Eh, 2017 looked good enough too.

2025/4.1 much better.

The Vita port of 2 is neat, but kinda retained that PS2 roughness.
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>>319742646
>The Vita port of 2 is neat, but kinda retained that PS2 roughness.
It's still a mile ahead of 2017P's roughness/performance.
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>>319742615
>4.1
>framerate dying
The framerate is actually decent this time
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>>319742416
>It's not coming to PC.
SteamDB says otherwise.
If it happened of Guilty Gear, it can happen for EDF.
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>trying to heal teammate with reverser
>he won't stand fucking still
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>post yfw you got your first weapon that fired a metric fuckloads of shots and it wasn't absolute ass
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>>319741679
>tfw spiderwebs

The only reason i could never finish EDF 2017 on Inferno.
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>>319741679
Did someone say spiders?
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>>319742957
>get too caught up in co-op
>now have weapons that are like rank 13
Now the fucking story is gonna be a cakewalk for a bit
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Used to hate hectors. Now I think they're fucking great. After slaughtering a bunch of bugs, I now have a fucking threat and that threat is a bunch of giant robots that will fuck your shit if you're not careful.
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>>319743114
Assault Spiders.
A bug AND a feature.
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>>319743114
looks like cum tbqh
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https://steamdb.info/app/410320/subs/
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>>319743190
I've not played 2025/4.1 yet, but do Hectors still dance around weirdly like they do in 2017P when you take an assault rifle to them?

It got pretty ridiculous online where their bodies would completely flip about while walking.
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>>319743114
>>319741679
>The fucking net spiders that pull you towards them
>Playing as Artillery Fencer on Inferno
>mfw I say fuck it and just fire away hoping for the best
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>>319743260
https://steamdb.info/app/410780/subs/
https://steamdb.info/app/411380/subs/
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>>319743260
>Forth
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>>319743319
>mfw I say fuck it and just fire away hoping for the best
I know that feeling all too well.
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>>319743260
woooooow it's fucking nothing

>>319743304
>but do Hectors still dance around weirdly like they do in 2017P when you take an assault rifle to them?
Yep and they do it when you hit them with rockets sometimes
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>>319743260
>>319743345
Keep begging
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>>319743413
>>319743390
>>319743348
>>319742416
>being this mad you wasted your allowance on the ps4

pathetic
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>>319741679
>Trying to solo the Inferno Dragon missions in 2025 as Wingdiver
I DIDN'T SIGN UP FOR THIS GANG BANG
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Best site to buy US PSN store credit from?
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>>319742069
I don't think that's going to be the case, especially with Japanese games. Hope some nice enhancements do come out of it though, provided 4.1 actually does arrive on Steam.
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>keep getting knocked down over and over by Hectors
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>>319742696
Wait so EDF 2 is out on the Vita already?
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>>319744083
Came out same day as 4.1.
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EDF! EDF! EDF!
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>>319744083
EDF2P and 4.1 dropped on the 8th.
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Is EDF 4.1 digital only?
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>>319744187

Nope, I got a copy from amazon, though I didn't see any in gamestop when I was there earlier today.
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>>319744129
>>319744150
Doesn't seem to be released in PAL territories just yet unfortunately just like Douk 3D

As both a port and a game, how does it compare to EDF 2017 Portable?
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Picked up 2 for the Vita.
These reflective UFOs.
How.
Help.
It's so hard to aim with precision at a distance with this Vita stick, and if I let them get close I get overwhelmed and fucked.
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>>319744458

I would like to know this too. Might pick it up for my pstv.
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>>319743536
>spend hours doing attrition war shit trying to solo Inferno levels
>get fucked by the last couple bugs
>or by a stray plasma blast
>or by a lucky fighter shot
>or by a fucking bug standing over me when my missile launches

Ffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuccckking BUUUUUUUGGGGGGGSS
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>>319744458
Douk 3D was literally a PS+ game in europe earlier this year
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>>319744669
And by god was it a fucking terrible port. It had problems I've never seen in a Dook 3d port before.
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>>319744669
Duke Nukem yields 0 results. Maybe it's not for sale in New Zealand for some retarded reason

>>319744713
Guess I dodged a bullet, then. How the hell can somebody fuck up a port of the Build engine, anyway?
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>playing through the last mission of 2
>fucking lasers everywhere
>start the mission with 1.9k hp
>end with 200
Most fun I've had with my vita in a while, my thumb is in pain though
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>>319744458
import it or just get a 50$ us card from playasia and download it with a us account
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>>319742875
>SteamDB
>meaning anything
keep begging for scraps PCuk
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>>319740586
Hold on there, buddy. You don't post shit like that without a proper source.
Please tell me it's true.
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>>319745246
It's not coming.
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>>319745246
It's not, it's desperate PKeks spamming that fucking page as if it means anything

All it means is that it was in testing at some point but was likely abandoned because PC is a shitty place to release games on.

It's not going to be on PC, take your port begging to /trash/
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>>319745406
That's lame, EDF2025 would be amazing on PC, especially if they'd add mission editor.
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>>319745246
ignore those buttblased console fags
http://www.pcgamer.com/everybodys-gone-to-the-rapture-half-life-3-and-more-appear-in-steamdb-list/

HL3 won't happen but so far FF VI, Guilty gear and some other did.
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>>319745901
>Half-Life 3
Yeah, pretty much confirms fake. Shame.
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>>319745901
Again, just because SteamDB lists it doesn't mean it's coming (and it won't)

All it means is that it was considered at some point but was likely dropped.

There are plenty of SteamDB entries where no game ever materialized, EDF will be no different.

But keep port begging, maybe they will notice you and tell you 'No' instead of just ignoring you. You can do it!
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>>319746160
Read my post
> FF VI, Guilty gear and some other did.
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>>319746219
GG Xrd was rumored to come before that listing, and FF6 was a gimmy since the other FF iOS ports made it to Steam already.

Regardless, let's keep it EDF here.
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>tfw fucking around in 2017 with a friend
>Both of us just firing away a swarm of Endgame Tortoise missiles at an insect hive
>that three minutes wait while the wall of death slowly approached the hive, following by the thirty seconds of non-stop destruction
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>>319746219
Well, I'm cautiously optimistic, then. EDF 4 deserves a release on PC, fuck that piece of shit Insect Armageddon.
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>tfw rocket juggling ants
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am I the only one that gets a boner when the wing divers get covered in sticky spider semen?
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>>319747140
>supporting spiders in any way, shape, or form
RAVAGER POSTERS GET OUT
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Anyone got a EDF shoop of this pic? I've seen it somewhere.
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>>319745110
That means I need a new memory card and a 32 GB one from Japan is apparently as cheap as $94 NZD. Are Vita memory cards in any way region-locked or not?

I think I'll just wait
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>>319747323
On that note, anyone got the shoop of a bunch of heroes looking happy while the landscape behind them has been entirely leveled?
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>>319746947
the only problem with IA was how short it was, the other two problems being lack of bug and weapon diversity both stem from this fact. other than that it was fine, if not better seeing as you had a sprint button to pick up loot with and the classes leveling up felt pretty fucking good. rezzing teammates was kinda casual, and while i dont miss it, i dont hate it either.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMR2GlHktWg
;_;7
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>>319748025
IA's problem for me was how claustrophobic it felt even in the city levels.
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>>319748104
ill give you that one too, the invisible walls everywhere while you go point to point is pretty lame. it didnt bother me as much tho.
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>>319748025

No, the biggest problem with IA is the mission design. Only sections of levels are made available to you until you progress whatever the objective is. The missions expect you to only play around in a tiny section until you're told to go over to another tiny section. Then there are some objectives where you have to defend something, those are clearly not fun and are not something the other EDF games do.
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>>319748025
>other than that it was fine
No.

>complete lack of scale
>edgy ravager redesigns
>no physics
>weak weapons that lack any feeling of impact
>not enough difficulty settings
>no stagger
>majority of guns are boring
>timing-based reload from Gears of War in a fucking EDF game
Insect Armageddon is trash, anon. It's like someone took EDF, scaled it down and took all the fun out of it. If you think short campaign and lack of variety are really game's biggest problems, you really don't understand EDF as a series.
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>removing kebab ants in co-op as usual
>just got heli, holy shit this controls like ass
>destroy last drop ship
>"life form detected"
>manage to turn this turtle of a chopper around to face it, expecting more bugs
>fucking Destroyah-esque Kaiju

O-Oh.
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>PKeks portbegging for EDF
You fags already got an EDF game, Insect Armageddon. But surprise surprise, no one bought it!

And you still think you're gonna be getting 4.1. Enjoy waiting for something that will never come.
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>>319748674
Don't bring this shit, nobody is begging. EDF 4.1 is happening and there is no reason to bitch about it. Don't you want them to garner more interest and money?
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>>319748443
i suppose.

but at the same time i have gone over 40 missions and 3 difficulty levels without getting any decent weapon upgrades in 2025, and it has caused me to just drop it completely. no desire to even finish it. at least in IA by now my class kit would have upgraded and i would have had new weapons available to purchase to at least make me feel a little good till something good drops. i wont say that your complaints dont exist but i have enough with 2025 to honestly say i would rather a play a 90 mission IA.

>rolling everywhere to pick up items is balls
>nothing but rockets and snipers hit dropships meaning you really dont have a choice in what to bring on missions after a certain point.
>only getting armor isnt nearly as fun as upgrading a kit, such as longer flight time or all the skills the tank class got
>the support class in 2025 is near useless compared to the one in IA
>again no run button makes the huge areas just painful to move through
>nothing but the same grenade dropping 6 times a mission over and over and over
>items dropping in water deeper than your waist are unobtainable
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>>319748878
I don't know how else I can say it to get you to understand. SteamDB IS NOT a reliable source of information regarding what may be released on Steam in the future.

The ONLY thing it means is that it had an entry on Steam AT SOME POINT. That's it. There are countless games that still have not materialized in any form despite having entries for them. Simply having an entry does not indicate a planned release.

But keep clinging to that hope buddy, it makes it that much more amusing when they're mercilessly crushed by that little thing called reality.
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>>319749376
Stream your suicide once they port it.
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>>319749376
You're trying really hard for those (you)
here's one.
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>>319749497
>>319749693
Nah, I'll keep watching PKeks get BTFO time and time again because their thieving cheap asses are passed over and ignored in favor of consoles

Not like you guys need more games, you already have the biggest library of indie shit, sjw indie shit, spreadsheets, and MOBAs, consoles can't brag about that. Embrace the pseudo-games that make your platform special instead of lusting over real games.
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What's the best class?
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>>319749912
fencer all the way imho
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>>319749150
>3 difficulty levels without getting any decent weapon upgrades in 2025
You must really suck, then. 2025 was my first real EDF game (I started the series with IA), and first thing I did is tried to finish as much as possible first missions on Inferno. And unlike IA, it was actually doable and I got a lot of good stuff out of it. If you play on High (Normal is basically easy, where Easy is very easy) you get good stuff from first level.
>rolling everywhere to pick up items is balls
Sprint is the only good thing IA had, true. But I'd rather have to roll around than follow linear progression of IA.
>nothing but rockets and snipers hit dropships meaning you really dont have a choice in what to bring on missions after a certain point.
Everything with range over 200 meters can hit dropships. That's almost every weapon in the game short of flamethrowers.
>only getting armor isnt nearly as fun as upgrading a kit, such as longer flight time or all the skills the tank class got
Yeah, no. This is CoD babby mentality when people want to grind to unlock basic functions of the class. This is actually one of the reasons EDF fans hated IA.
>the support class in 2025 is near useless compared to the one in IA
Excuse me while I laugh at you. Air Raider is extremely good from first mission. And is crucial when playing on Inferno or with Fencers.
>again no run button makes the huge areas just painful to move through
True, but in 2025 you don't have to run anywhere unless it's a cave mission, because you see enemies across the map. In IA you HAVE to run to checkpoint to spawn more enemy waves. Oh, and enjoy sapping those holes manually.
>nothing but the same grenade dropping 6 times a mission over and over and over
RNG can be a bitch. But I'd rather have a ton on fun weapons with RNG than guaranteed drops of weapons that all feel the same - like shit.
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>>319750046
[cont]
>items dropping in water deeper than your waist are unobtainable
That was annoying. Not as annoying as robots that have a ton of HP even on normal difficulty and are impossible to stagger in any way.

2025 is a great game with some poor game design decisions. IA is a terrible game with couple good changes. I think I know which one I prefer.
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>>319749912
It's always gonna be Fencer baby.
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>>319749912
Fencer > Air Raider = Ranger = Wing Diver

Its all about the dual miniguns and frame-canceling
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>>319750046
>tons of fun weapons
im jealous anon, i would love to see some. i been stuck with the Af16-RA and stingwray 2 for the last 20 hours i dropped in the game. and no, the rifles dont reach the dropships in the later levels and no the missle launchers dont have enough lock on range without the support class. so while i have gotten a few shotguns, missile launchers and grenades, they are all useless.

>people dont want to grind to unlock class functions
it was a sure of hell a lot funner than grinding for no reward in 2025. wing divers dont do it for me in this one, can never get a room online for the air raider and even if i did, you play a support class that people just get themselves killed by unless you just play as a tank/mech drop. it cant even defend itself decently. i started to get into fencer but the horror i went through with the range makes me not wanna even attempt

>you must really suck
spending 20 hours clearing levels on inferno with weapons on got on normal around level 30 solo says otherwise. maybe i just got shit luck, but it was bad enough for me to drop it.
i didnt have this problem playing through 2017, at all.
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Gettin' real tired of not being able to find a room to play co-op in hard/hardest on EDF2025
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>>319750740
>i been stuck with the Af16-RA and stingwray 2 for the last 20 hours i dropped in the game
>AF16RA
>lvl 16
>Stingray M2
>lvl 20
>20 hours
u wat
>and no, the rifles dont reach the dropships in the later levels and no the missle launchers dont have enough lock on range without the support class
>they are all useless
>lvl 20 weapons
Yes anon, you've seen only the weakest weapons in the game, I'm sure you're competent enough to talk about weapon choices in the game.
>you play a support class that people just get themselves killed by unless you just play as a tank/mech drop
I'm getting vibes here that you haven't even played the game. I'm not even talkign about Air Raider in particular, it's like you've seen some videos of really shitty players and think you know what you're talking about.
>spending 20 hours clearing levels on inferno
>the best weapons he go are Af16-RA and Stingray M2
You're just lying now.
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>>319750740
Also, I forgot to point out
>it cant even defend itself decently
And laugh at you.
>Air Raider
>cant even defend itself
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>>319750836
Just start your own server.
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How is EDF 2017 on the Vita?
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>>319751235
wish i was anon, i really do. ive made it to mission 83 on hard as far as for how deep in the game i got outside of grinding. i cranked up the difficulty for the one mission where its all ants and spiders till the huge bee boss shows up and farmed that for what feels like forever and never got anything decent. all i have to show for it is a ranger with a shit ton of health.

never had this problem with 2017 and IA.
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>>319751573
>ive made it to mission 83 on hard
>his best weapon is lvl 20
Anon, I told you to stop lying. You don't get drops lower than lvl 35 in mission 80 on Hard, lvl 20 weapons stop dropping on mission 39. I'm not sure what are you even trying to do lying so hard, unlike you I know how the game works.
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>>319751573
Try farming the hector d-day mission on higher difficulties. I got a lot of good stuff that way.
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>>319751494
It's okay. I need to give it another shot myself since it's been a while though.
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:-; i want my 20% off but I might just say fuck it and buy them on amazon
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>>319751791
i think you missed where i said i got a ton of high level grenades and a decent amount of missile launchers that dont reach the dropships or sky eaters and shotguns that despite being higher level dont outperform a decent assualt rifle, and some snipers that dont out perform the stingray because of the rate of fire and reload time added in with the splash damage makes them also not worth the time. i did get the goliath to move up as far as rocket launchers go but keeping steady aim, shit goes down faster with the stingray because shorter reload time and its not one rocket per reload. i did get the assault rifle that shoots in a V and a high level one with the bouncing bullets, but they suck in comparison considering what you have to deal with because of the shorter range and lower damage. ive gotten shit, but its all been useless and even more boring than the weapons you can purchase on level up in IA

i keep telling you i wish i was lying to you
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>Rule of God
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>>319752196
Sure you did, bud, sure you did. And 20 hours of Inferno mission, aye. Maybe even grinding silver spiders in DLCs on Inferno in co-op too? I mean, if you're blatantly lying, might as well go all the way.
You can stop wasting my time now.
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>>319749912

Fencer for top side levels with mostly ground-based enemies
Wing Diver for underground levels
Ranger for levels with lots of aerial enemies
Air Raider for levels with either only hectors or only red ants
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>>319752853
AR is the best versus flying enemies, even more so than ranger. Wire guns may look like a gimmick, but they're extremely good.
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>>319753126

They may be good against drones because those often swoop low but do they have enough range to reach these guys?
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>>319753334
Yeah, these fucks are annoying. But wire shot makes a quick work of normal drones, wasps and dragons. Plus, it's always fun to give a bukkake treatment to someone chewing on you.
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>>319754515
Fucking Geist. Thanks, anon.
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>>319751953
How the fuck did this sell out but the other games were easily available for months? Fucking XSeed couldn't get the numbers right.
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>>319754692
Probably didn't expect many sales after 2025. Either publishers themselves or stores.
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