I was very disappointed to find out there wasn't a valid option to destroy these bastards.
>>319703604
you can always just shoot up the place
>>319703604
you could just shoot everyone in the face
>>319703670
>>319703719
You should've at least had the option to report them to the NCR who were right next door. Hell, what about revoking their permit to stay in New Vegas once you take control after killing House? The whole thing just seemed lazily put together.
>>319703604
Outing Mortimer as a cannibal in front of the rest of the White Glove Society while keeping the brahmin baron's son alive pretty much puts a stop to their shit.
I always liked convincing the brahmin baron to get him and his bodyguard to go postal in that little bar area. The bodyguard's caravan shotgun sends those fuckers flying.
>>319703946
The NCR doesn't have any say on what the Families do in their casinos. The most they do is keep their own people in check and stop drunken brawls on the street.
>>319703946
Cut content
Most of Caesar and Yes Man faction quests were cut because of time/budget issues
>>319704053
If you do that it implies over the radio you basically just starved New Vegas
>>319703946
I agree with wanting more, but I wouldn't call it lazy either.
>>319704695
I did that on my low INT tribal run. I blew up the dam and Helios One that playthrough too.
>>319704771
I didn't know there were so many options. I always just went in guns blazing cause I hated their pretentious attitude.
>>319703670
this
>>319704695
how would outing them as cannibals starve new vegas?
>>319705387
Getting the brahmin baron to break the deal to supply the strip with meat starves New Vegas.
Valid? The swift justice you bring with your double barrel shotgun isn't valid? The massacres you commit under your own authority aren't a valid answer to heresy?
>>319703604
Is that Jim Sterling?
I was very disappointed to learn NV isn't even canon
>>319705979
Shooting everyone always feels like the laziest option to me.
It's like in Fallout 2 where you can simply kill Mr. Wright, OR give one of his children a gun and convince them to wave it around daddy's face, accidentally shooting him. Which feels so much more rewarding.
I wish I could have talked Colonel Moore into sending one of her death squads into the Ultra Luxe. Would've been fun to watch.
>>319706432
Fuck off
>>319706520
>Not waiting until he sleeps and strapping him with Super Stim-Packs until he's dead from a heart attack
>>319706432
not true
>>319706432
wait, what?
>>319707030
It's canon, they're just retarded.
>>319706692
>super stimpack method
>ever
I bet you didn't sneak past the Navarro base commander either.
>>319707030
It's a meme that's been going around since FO4 was released. People keep saying Bethesda decanonized NV when they never did and they can never produce a source.
>>319707273
>gamepedia
>>319707421
>makes bold claim with no proof
>some anon provides proof to the contrary, citing sources and showing where the proof came from
>"lel doesn't count"
Every fucking time. Was I just "trolled"? I put that into quotations because it's pretty weak trolling all things considered.
Realistically speaking, how big are the chances that Bethesda greenlights another Obsidian spin-off? Is there any reason for them to do it again? Were they even satisfied with NV as far as we know?
>>319707720
>>319707672
i think you got memed on son
NV is canon, F4 just doesn't acknowledge it at all
>>319707720
Bad, Bethesda gave obsidian tons of shit near the end of the NV development. Its clear there wont be another.
>>319707720
Bethesda needed time so they could work on Skyrim, so they let Obsidian work on New Vegas while they worked on TES stuff. I think we might see that again, where Bethesda allows another studio to work on a Fallout "midquel" while they work on the next TES game.
At least I'm hoping.
>>319703670
Average American thinking...
>>319707959
>>319707843
Is there any source or proof for that besides mock up images on /v/? I've never seen an actual article or source that confirms this, just lots of shitposting on /v/.
Not saying I wouldn't put it past Bethesda, but can we have some proof?
>>319707959
Don't like the racists in Windhelm? Just murder everyone. That's fun RP, right?
>>319707672
What were the NV references in Fallout 4 to confirm NV ever happened again?
Oh there weren't any?
>>319708039
SWEDEN YES
>>319708079
Literally the only game FO4 references or acknowledges is FO3. By your logic Fallout 1, 2, Tactics, NV, and all the rest are now not canon. And yes I know Tactics was never really canon but I'm making a point.
>>319704771
That's not even all the options, isn't it?
Can't you replace Ted with one of the Player Companions or something?
>>319707720
NV did pretty well financially, ignoring the whole metacritic thing. According to Feargus Urquhart Obsidian and Bethesda talked all the time. They've shown interest in making another west coast game, but said it was ultimately up to Bethesda. But that was five years ago. Obsidian has a lot of their own shit going on now, so things might have changed quite a bit.
>>319708042
It's all speculation and for some reason everyone on /v/ likes to think Bethesda is like a pissy passive-aggressive high school girl about the whole thing when that's not how this shit works. I don't like beth either, but I highly, highly doubt they operate that way.
>>319708042
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=obsidian+fallout+new+vegas+bonus
>>319704489
>"Time/budget issues"
That's a nice way of saying "Bethesda rushed obsidian".
>>319708042
>trusting /v/ to back up any or at all info
Same reason why /v/ loves to call games "memegames" when they contain no memes, and just like to shitpost on what's popular.
>>319708290
Yes, any companion except Lily or Raul
>>319708221
Fallout 3 mentions the Enclave and their origins from the West, sorry obsidrone but NV is just a fanfiction that never happened.
>>319707880
>>319707909
I bet there is going to be a "midquel" made by another dev, but not Obsidian.
I'm thinking Bioware, or maybe Rocksteady...
>>319707720
Very small chance
Bethesda already got shadowed hardcore by Witcher 3 and the last thing they need for the ''bethesda seal of quality'' to break is someone doing a better version of their own game
>Were they even satisfied with NV as far as we know?
I would say so when that shit sold a lot but it also went on to claim #1 Fallout title so they prolly got pissed there
>>319708042
The closest thing to proof is that bethesda handled quality control on NV
Although personally I don't believe those claims, its just that Obsidian didn't have as much reach money wise nor hype running behind them
>>319708079
>literally CONFIRMED best fallout game
>not canon
Its canon until stated otherwise, stay mad
>>319708395
did you post this before or after someone provided proof
>>319708412
>obsidrone
Really? So now anyone who mentions NV in a positive light, or says that it is in fact canon, is suddenly a "drone"?
Oh okay, you're one of those posters. Carry on then.
>>319708079
>>319708221
Fallout 4 mentions NCR, San Francisco and the Shi. So at least 2 still exists.
The Mojave is mentioned once.
>>319708412
>todd howard coming into new vegas threads and halfheartedly trying to stir up shit because he's jealous that his game was boring and unmemorable.
Every fucking thread with these not canon shitters. Literally fuck off.
>>319707273
>Mothership zeta is canon
>>319708690
Their fault for replying
>>319708690
It's salty Bethesda fans who are mad that NV is generally the more popular game of the series, and that with the release of FO4 a lot of players chose to go back to and replay NV.
>>319708657
>Todd Howard casually shitposting in NV threads
>>319708628
>The Mojave desert exists
>This must mean NV happened
>>319705732
i thought he just broke the deal with the WGS
>>319706432
Fuck off Todd
>>319708690
I killed this guy because because I wanted his stupid hat.
Fucking Legion death squads made my subsequent trip to New Vegas a living hell.
>>319708825
Can I ask you something? Even if NV wasn't canon and was just "fanfiction", who would care? Like at all? I know I wouldn't. Does the knowledge that a game you dislike is canon just eat you up inside or something?
Disney decanonized a bunch of really great Star Wars games and those are still perfectly enjoyable, so what's your problem? Are you just wanting to "rub it in obsidrone faces" or something?
>>319708412
>NV is just fanfiction
>When it had members of the team that made the originals and wrote the story
>When it adheres to the canon much more faithfully instead of the sloppily slapped together mess of "look le references to old fallouts and quests that don't fucking matter lmao" that was Fallout 3
I wish there was a system that labeled people with shit taste so I could filter them en masse.
>>319708843
He straight up says that he's going to blockade food shipments into Vegas to starve them out if he finds out the WGS was behind his son's kidnapping.
He absolutely has the power to do that too.
>>319708825
It's better than nothing I guess.
>>319708806
>>319708825
>why isn't fallout new vegas canon, anon?
>b-because i said so
>according to the wiki it's canon and it was still published and worked on in small part by bethesda employees
>d-doesn't count haha u mad obsididrone????
>Heh, whatever you say anonymous.
HATE CANNIBALS
>>319707959
I'm pretty sure it's against Sharia to post on 4chan, bruv.
What did he mean by this?
>>319708976
In Fallout 2 I killed a man in New Reno just to watch him die.
Even skyrim lets you kill the cannibals.
>>319709412
Is literally there
He want's a sexbot for robot fetishists
>>319709546
Vegas also lets you kill the cannibals anon
>>319709412
>What did he mean by this
When will this meme end?
Also, is it ever confirmed who the "clients" are that request a ghoul, a smooth talker, and a robot? Because I always got the feeling that they were all for James here, or at least Fisto was for him.
>>319709703
>Also, is it ever confirmed who the "clients" are that request a ghoul, a smooth talker, and a robot? Because I always got the feeling that they were all for James here, or at least Fisto was for him.
what did anon mean by this?
>>319709703
Ghoul and smooth talker likely had actual requests. Robot was absolutely just for James though, that's made clear when you deliver fisto.
>>319703670
I prefer to burn it.
>>319709412
>>319709703
>wants to get fisted by a sex bot and whipped by a ghoul simultaneously while a smooth talking gentlemen sits in the corner and narrates the whole thing
>"h-haha my clients man they request the weirdest shit"
>>319703604
If you convince the white gloves to return to cannibalism, you can tell house about it and he orders you to exterminate them.
>>319709852
Okay sweet, it's been awhile since I played so I forgot if he gave you more hints or not.
But I always thought that, when he expressed hesitation and some awkwardness over Beatrice (the ghoul? Was that her name?) being a woman and saying something like "The client will just have to make do" I figured it was for him and he was spilling his spaghetti about it.
What's your favorite line in NV?
>inb4 theoretical long dick
>>319710192
Thanks for that.
>>319710412
>>319710412
Hard to say what my favorite line is, but on the subject of Yes Man: One of my favorite moments is when you take the damn with Yes Man and can tell him to toss the NCR general off the side of the dam.
>>319708825
>mfw people fall for your weak bait
>>319708042
What, the bonus thing? Avellone talked about it on twitter apparently, but the tweet is gone now.
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/obsidian-denied-bonus-over-new-vegas-metacritic-score-studio-head/1100-6366337/
http://www.engadget.com/2012/03/15/obsidian-missed-fallout-new-vegas-metacritic-bonus-by-one-point/
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/116343-Obsidian-Lost-Bonus-for-Fallout-New-Vegas-by-One-Metacritic-Point
>>319710412
>>319710576
>ywn toss Colonel Moore off the Hoover dam
she deserved it more than Oliver
>>319710652
I'm actually impressed, thank you anon. I asked for proof and someone actually provided it without shitposting. Seriously, thanks for that.
>the bonus bullshit is real
Fucking Bethesda. I knew it was something they would easily do, but I had hope it was just an exaggerated rumor. Life is unfair.
>>319710730
>he didn't kill him right away
>>319711136
>Not leaving him to the radscorpions
>>319710878
No, fuck you. I provided proof earlier you white chocolate nigger.
>>319711136
>>319711337
Jesus guys, he just won the lottery.
I bought this the other day for around four dollars, and god damn it, it's actually fun. Yes it's bad but it's so bad it's good, it's like a weird made for tv movie from the 90s about Fallout.
>Better and more dialogue options than Fallout 4
>Takes place in Texas, a location hotly requested by fans
>Built on the Champions of Norrath engine with identical gameplay. CoN is touted as one of the best games of that era
>You can play as a Ghoul
>The black guy character you can play as literally says "Shiieeeettt" whenever you melee attack, in a deep comical black guy voice
Honestly the game is fun and I think so many people hate it because, admittedly, it does a lot of bad things with the canon. The biggest offender is during the opening cutscene when it claims the world ended in the 50s and not the 2070s.
>>319708395
Memegames are game that are themselves a meme
>>319711337
We've all seen Oliver get raped by the radscorps, but can you save him? Like can you escort him away from town and fight away the radscorps?
>>319710412
it gives you the objectively bad end for joshua, but sneering imperialist "put a cap in general gobledygook" may be my favorite courier response
>>319711621
he tells you to fuck off past a point
>>319711621
From what I remember, his scripting is broken and he will just wait in the radscorpion den until they kill him after they respawn. He was originally supposed to go to Mojave Outpost or something like that.
Yet this quest still has more options than the entirety of Fallout 4
>>319711549
Explain to me how a game can be a meme.
>>319711450
There more reason to it
>all these retarded rock band
>advertise the fuck out of a Texan Energy Drink
>insult the very fanbase the game is based around of
If anything, this game would sell better if its not a Fallout game.
>>319712370
First day on /v/?
>>319711871
Talk about a happy accident. Him getting raped by radscorpions was so perfect I thought it was intentional.
>>319711825
>>319711871
That's sad. I have a noob question, as I usually don't mess around with the console in a game and such. Can you use the console to move him somewhere else and "cancel" his code that makes him run off or something? Just curious, I'd like to put the guy somewhere nice, even if he doesn't say anything for the rest of the game.
>>319712502
Ah yes, the metal music for boss fights is dumb, and the "Bawls" energy drink is just stupid and way out of place.
I'm still having fun though, I went into it expecting it to be this legendarily bad horse shit tier game and it's actually pretty fun.
>>319712547
>>319711337
>>319711136
>Jealous because you didn't win the lottery
>>319708039
google Gustafus Adolphus
How did you guys kill Kimball?
I tried planting C4 on his podium once. Didnt work out to well when all the rangers started shooting at me. Plus two bricks didn't even dent him.
Profligates no need to reply.
>Get them to revert to cannibalism
>Tell House
>He has them wiped out
>>319710412
Make your first shot count, because you won't get a second.
>>319709703
>When will this meme end?
When will this meme end?
>>319712905
The only time I did that quest, I shot him in the back with an Anti-Material Rifle with explosive rounds from the tower where the Legion sniper usually is. I had bloody mess, so he exploded all over the crowd, it was kinda funny. I could just picture Evil Dead levels of blood and gore splashing all over everyone in the front row.
>>319712865
>implying the modern brit is the same quality of person that planted it's flag in most of the world
>implying the modern swede is anything like that military genius
>>319704053
>tfw stealth kill Heck Gunderson with spiked fist
>cut off all his limbs
>talk to his bodyguard
>"you watch yourself around mr gunderson"
>>319708707
>>319712905
I just hid in the crowd as an anonymous NCR soldier and double tapped him in the face with hollow point .45 once he was walking down the steps. A couple of grenades and the scattering crowd was all the cover I needed to escape.
>>319713825
This is absolutely brilliant. 10/10.
>>319710412
From the Better Angels mod.
"Jesus Christ, the Master's army. Once a-fucking-gain. You will never shut the fuck up about it. The rest of your LIFE is like some kind of fucking epilogue to your time with the Master. Get the fuck over it. You LOST, motherfucker!"
>>319713825
> 99% of gamers would laud Bethesda for the cinematic experience and EPIC gameplay
>>319714021
That's cringe and autistic as fuck, and it's from a mod so fuck you.
>>319707375
There are references to Places and things from NV in fucking Fo4.
>>319714152
Yes I know, and I told a shitposter that just earlier in the thread and he moved the goalposts and claimed it was still not canon. Scroll up and read, he was a doozy.
>>319712865
He'd be rolling in his fucking grave if he saw Sweden today
>>319711621
You could just kill the radscorpions and leave the cell. You don't "save" him, but he doesn't technically die.
>>319714152
What does it reference anyway?
I really liked New Vegas. Should I buy Fallout 4? I prefer playing as a high speech level character.
>>319715378
If speech is your thing, you're going to be horrendously disappointed. Not even kidding, the dialogue system was fucked pretty hard in 4.
>>319715378
>I prefer playing as a high speech level character
I'm sorry.
>>319715378
>I prefer playing as a high speech level character.
In FO4, you get 4 choice of yes.
>>319715596
>>319715885
>>319716081
Well I guess I won't bother then. A big appeal of these types of games for me is how you can talk your way out of a lot of situations.
>>319716623
Yeah, Bethedsa made a shooter with autism lego set instead.
>>319710878
>>319708042
Bethesda did nothing wrong, they didn't get a 85 or higher, therefore they don't get a bonus. That's how the real world works, pham.
>>319711445
Did you? I apologize, and I only just now saw this post. My bad anon.
>>319716907
in the real world, your company should have competent legal representation pointing out shitty loopholes in contracts. not saying it's not obsidian's fault, but any contract where part of your pay depends on early user scores while you don't have total control over the release date is pretty flawed
>>319716907
Bethesda are incompetent pricks.
>>319716623
I feel your pain, anon. I unfortunately bought this disappointment.
>>319713180
>>When will this meme end?
>When will this meme end?
What did he mean by this?
>>319712692
It's shit for a lot of the same reasons 3 and 4 are shit so if you're a fan of those games you'll probably like it
>>319718781
You meme what did he meme by that
>>319711446
Yeah, the radscorpion lottery.
>>319717398
>in the real world, your company should have competent legal representation pointing out shitty loopholes in contracts. not saying it's not obsidian's fault, but any contract where part of your pay depends on early user scores
It wasn't part of their salary or wages, it was a bonus. You can add any requirement you want for a bonus to be sent out in a contract, even things which the employee has little or no control of (though doing this would send a red flag to anyone who was reading the contract).
>>319703946
welcome to obsidian games
>>319703604
I was very disappointed to find out there wasnt a quest to rob the families in elaborate heists. New Vegas lies to you in the title of the game. Vegas in game is boring, forgettable, and doesnt even feel like sin city.
>>319720580
Take your medicine marv
>>319720580
Consoles are to blame
>>319709012
Pretty sure there's an option to make him chill the fuck out and not fuck up all of Vegas.
>>319708412
>Look Reddit I posted it again, those 4channers gonna be so mad!
>>319708994
The people who keep going "FALLOUT 3/4 ISNT CANON BECAUSE THE OLD OWNERS OF THE FRANCHISE DIDNT MAKE THEM" would care
I'm this guy: >>319720840
I looked it up, if you pass a 35 speech check you can get Heck to chill out and keep selling brahmin meat the strip.
>>319713825
BEAR AND THE BULL LMAO
>>319716623
Fallout 4 was never advertised as an RPG like the previous games. It's an action game.
>>319721319
>Bear tries to replicate pre-war American democracy
>Legion tries to replicate pre-war Roman Empire
>you can destroy both with the old world nuclear weapons in LR
It's like poetry.
>>319709439
>>319721416
People really should have learned after Skyrim.
>>319714113
You think that shit is bad?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGRt9WuBG9E
>>319705151
>Poorfag pls
>>319708079
>>319708221
Can't remember who but I know for a fact that there is a character that mentions the NCR. Literally happened the other day.
>>319708079
>>319708221
During Kellog's memory banks he mentions the NCR and San Francisco or did you not pay attention?
>>319716907
The main reason for NV losing points with critics was the bugginess of the initial release, and Bethesda was in charge of QA and refused to let Obsidian handle it.
>>319724586
Obsidian should've released a functioning game then. Again an example of Bethesda doing everything correctly.
>>319708305
>but I highly, highly doubt they operate that way.
What, you mean the company well know for shitty writing and animation because the people who do those things are blood relatives of Todd Howard? No, they're the height of professionalism!
>>319708395
Except memegames usually have plenty of memes
>le anime is real? xD
Why is there no failed speech check with Ulysses where you call him Un-bear-a-bull?
>>319724815
Obsidian is usually pretty shitty about bugs so they probably would have released it in the same state anyway, but we'll never know. New Vegas's bug problems were entirely Bethesda's fault. They took on the QA testing and literally refused to let Obsidian interact directly with the testers.
>>319712865
what do you mean by that?
Greece had Alexander, French had Napoleon and the Mongols had Genghis
what does it matter if your country is a modern joke?
>>319712370
If it has an overblown reputation that gets passed around, like Dark Souls.
That doesn't mean its a bad game either, just like bacon being a meme food doesn't mean its bad.
>>319725023
>Un-bear-a-bull
>>319721058
I think it's pretty inarguable 3 and 4 are Todd's fanfiction.
https://m.youtube.com/?reload=7&rdm=1tdr6c3ji#/watch?v=dTla80VCFOY
>>319708783
>NV
>popular
how to spot a shitpost
>>319710746
I'd rather just give her a toss desu.
>>319708380
It's actually a way of saying "Obsidian strikes again"
They never finish projects on time. Stop blaming the innocent.
>>319725828
That is partly true, but that's because they really put their hearts into their games and they want to do a lot of stuff in the game, but due to the time restraint, they can't.
>>319712905
>mfw programming the AA gun to shoot down his chopper
>>319710412
>>319725173
Video games are one thing, but calling a food that's been eaten for hundreds of years a meme is flat-out fucking retarded.
>>319716623
you can still definitely do that
>>319703604
Aiodu, flesh-eating, pretentious shitlords.
>literally no guilt felt poisoning them all
>>319726486
Wait, you can poison them?
>>319726587
Yes, but it takes patience & skill not to kill them outright.
>>319726685
Tell me how
>>319726763
Find the kitchen & freezer area & look for a wine bottle to interact with.
Then press the intercom to get them to start the poisoning sequence.
>>319727112
you didn't poison them you got them high you fucking goober.
>>319727261
Don't call me a goober you fucking lampshade.
>>319704771
While I loved the White Glove stuff, jesus fuck is that portion still extremely bugged even with fan made patches.
>>319708380
So does Kotor 2 not count? Half that game didn't ship.
>>319703604
I was disappointed you couldn't join them. You only get a single extra dialogue option with Mortimer or whatever his name was if you have the cannibal perk.
>>319708412
>Fallout 2 confirms that cats are extinct
>Fallout 4 confirms that cats are fucking everywhere
Nice meme
>>319710746
>>319725749
I want to introduce Moore to Cook-cook.
>>319711450
In Champions of Norrath is there a hooded enemy that glides toward you and almost instant kills you?
Cant remember but it was the scariest shit I ever saw
>>319729636
>Continent is pretty much cut completely in half because no one can travel through the massive tornados
>The fact that in one half cats are extinct makes it impossible for them to still survive on the other half
Nice logic
>>319708398
I pick ED-E. So delicious
>>319714152
Like fucking what? Fallout NV isn't considered
>>319715378
High charisma turns every encounter into a charisma check, into the absurd where you don't have to fire a single shot in the whole game outside of one boss.
>>319731416
That's heartless, how could you?
>>319731416
>>319731670
<scared beeping>I swear Lonesome Road ED-E has more personality than any character in Fallout 4. He was the best part of the DLC.
>>319729636
>some bumfuck lady in a bar and some guy who literally can't leave his basement say that cats are extinct
>there can be no higher authority than this
I am so goddamn tired of this fucking argument.
About to start up a playthrough on PC for the first time. Essential mods?
>>319730209
How many tours of duty did Moore go against the Brotherhood? Honestly, she could probably kill Cook-Cook herself.
>>319712865
Why are modern people always taking pride on the deeds of their ancestors? They toiled for it, we didn't do shit.
>>319704771
the thing that pissed me off about this quest is that it was literally impossible to progress unless you agreed to look for the kid. even if you used console commands to get into the freezer, the kid didn't spawn until you decide to work for his dad. this might seem like a minor nitpick, but for a game that fans claim supports roleplaying, it's unacceptable to block content off behind scripted flags that force you to act as a busybody errand boy.
>>319734130
blame gamebyro
