Which one /v/?
I know the GTX 970 meme card is gimped when it comes to ram but I'm only going to be playing at 1080p maybe 1440p downsampled at the most or I might jump and get the r9 390
>>319688148
oh no not this thread again
get the 390
>>319688148
If your PSU and monthly power bill can handle it, get the 390. It's a straight upgrade over the 970 in every way except for power consumption, thermals, and drivers (arguably).
>>319688148
GTX 970.
Don't burn your PC by buying AMD's crap.
>>319688282
but the 970 is gimped trash
>>319688256
>straight upgrade over the 970 in every way
>except for power consumption, thermals, and drivers (arguably).
And G-sync, Shadowplay and Nvidia Workshop support. Plus no drivers-included downsampling options on AMDs.
That's pretty far from "everything". AMD = budget cards, for a reason.
>>319688256
>If your PSU and monthly power bill can handle it,
Jesus do those super expensive cards really make a noticeably impression on your bill
>>319688148
Nvidia is the only one that includes tools for native downsampling through the control panel.
Ignore the maymay fags, the card's damn good for 1080p-1440p gaming at 60fps.
>>319688434
wow look at all those nvidia gimmicks that don't matter
and I'm fairly certain you can downsample on AMD
>>319688556
Not really, I meant that as a joke. The extra power consumption of the 390 will maybe equate to about $15 extra on your power bills per year.
>gimped
3.5g vram isn't gimped, it's just not as good. With the increase in games just not working with Radeon lately I'd put my money on 970.
>>319688148
amd cant run any game, you are chosing a video card or nothing, go nvidia
What about a 380x?
>>319688669
>>319688647
>this nonsense again
guys I need a shit card that can handle 1080p, word, porn and receive steam in home streaming. any ideas on what would be good? I don't want to spend more than like $180/200. buying used is an option.
>>319688646
Sweet, I live in a utilities-included apartment so that sounds like the card for me.
OP here I might say fuck it and get the 390x which is clearly better than the 970
AMD does have down sampling I use it on my 280x that I'm giving to my brother for his build.
>>319688825
9500GT
>>319689117
That's a solid choice, OP. I would've gotten a 390x if my budget would have let me.
>>319688802
the nonsense is support amd
nvidia is always the way it's meant to be played
>>319688434
>>319688565
>Nvidia is the only one that includes tools for native downsampling through the control panel.
>no drivers-included downsampling options on AMDs
these are outright lies though
>>319688148
>upgrade from 7970 to GTX 970 because I wanted to try Nvidia after using nothing but AMD for 7 years
>can max games that the 7970 originally couldn't
>same average fps with max settings on games as the 7970 had on reduced settings, with little noticeable differences in visuals in most games
I honestly wish I had just saved a bit longer and went with the 980 Ti. At least it was on sale for cheap thanks to black friday. I'll just grab a 2nd one for SLI later.My friend who had been using a 770 for years is officially done with Nvidia and going AMD after all the shit happening with their drivers on Windows 10.
>>319688825
750ti
Is there any chance we will EVER see another player in gpu/cpu race? Or will just AMD die in time and it will be Intel and nvidia monopoly?
What's the point in gameworks if it can't even cripple the 390 enough to fall beyond the 970?
>>319688825
Used 7970s are cheap as fuck. $110-$150 in most cases. I got mine for $111.
Used GTX 770s go for around $150-$170 these days too.
Either grab one of those or save an extra $20 and buy a used R9 290 for like $200-$230.
Get a 290X.
>>319691290
My only thing for that is those are insanely hot and won't have support for directx 12
>>319688148
AMDfag here but you'll probably get better performance game wise with the 970 desu with Nvidia fuckery shitting up every game nowadays on PC, R9 390 is a great deal for the price though and technically superior card but it's really up to you if you want to get potentially superior performance but have to deal with some headaches of working around Nvidia's shit.
>>319692304
>>319692304
Get the tri-X from Sapphire. Cool and silent as a breeze.
They don't have DX12, but you won't see games fully using that anytime soon.
>>319692304
You bought into the insanely hot meme.
All GPU cards have reference models and aftermarket model.
If you get aftermarket model, which most people buy, your GPU temp will be roughly same as any other card from the market.
If you get reference model, you get high temp. A fix to this is to buy an aftermarket cooler.
Only problem with AMD was the reference cooler on the 290/X models. Which is a shame since nvidiafags exploited this weakness.
>>319688368
>gimped trash
Runs everything on ultra @ 60 fps
>got a 970 for 235 bucks on black friday
Meme card or not, I'm happy as fuck with it, upgraded from an old 6870, I'm done with AMD drivers and the lack of support for some games because devs are biased it seems
buy neither wait for next years cards.
>>319693415
>>319692304
Why wouldn't 290X support DX12?
R9 290X/390 are perfectly DX12 capable cards. Infact they have I believe 32 or 40 compute units which if DX12 async compute will benefit from if enabled properly.
I'd say nvidia's 9XX series aren't DX12 compatible because they don't support async compute and have to rely on driver support for that. (driver support will always be slower than hardware approach)
>>319693884
>ruins everything on ultra
>ftfy
>>319692304
>insanely hot
Only the reference cards had that issue.
>>319693986
Just checked.
They are DX12 compatible, my bad.
>>319690595
>Posting a broken pile of code as a benchmark
Get the 390
970 sucks for DX12, so much it has to emulate HARDWARE features with software.
Not to mention the 500MB of shit ram that shits itself when accessed, hope you don't need 1440P/4K
>>319693946
Got mine at launch, it's a fucking beast
Can someone send me an old GPU? A 770 would be great, thanks. I am poor this Christmas.
>>319694809
>shits itself when accessed
lol no
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFfvRc7yLj4
>>319694906
A year from now, your card will be much weaker.
>>319688434
>Shadowplay
AMD has had video recording and replays for a while. Even fucking windows 10 has it as a feature.
>>319695062
We'll see
AMD will probably delay their new cards and rebrand the 290X and Fury again
>>319694809
>1440p
I'm running a 1440p monitor with a fucking 2gb 960 just peachy and can play all my garbage games with medium to high settings at a stable 60fps (Vermintide, Bitcher 3, Endless Legend). I doubt 970 owners have much to worry about.
>>319695186
Fury would be rebranded under lower tier. Probably
390/X might move down to 380/X tier.
380/X might move down the ladder to 370/X tier.
AMD said something about bringing only 2 new card
Reminder that AMD literally released a driver that killed GPUs.
There is absolutely no reason not to get a r9 390 over a 970. Every argument against that will only be people grasping at straws to justify their fanboy-ism or buyers remorse.
>>319695274
It has 500MB of super low quality ram that can shit itself when accessed.
>>319695274
>960
>witcher 3
>1440p
>high settings
>60fps
You're so full of shit
>>319688148
Same thread every fucking day
390 8gb or 290x. That's it. Both can be bought for less than $300
>>319695404
http://www.zdnet.com/article/warning-nvidia-196-75-drivers-can-kill-your-graphics-card/
>>319695668
>that can shit itself when accessed
Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkh3L6PS2lw
OP again regardless of which one is better
What's the best 970
What's the best 390?
>mfw nvidia shills always show up in gpu threads
>mfw they can't say anything good about their own brand so they talk shit about the competition
reminds me of liberals desu
>>319688434
>I'm a delusional liar: the post
I down sample every game I play you idiot
>>319688434
>G-sync
Freesync
>Nvidia Workshop support
I have no idea what this is
>no drivers-included downsampling options on AMDs
Actually there is a virtual downscaling option for awhile on CCC
I think Shadowplay and Gameworks are the only real advantages when buying Nvidia cards, but you could always use a 3rd party support game recorder and AMD cards are known to bruteforce bad ports anyway so..
>>319695404
>literally being too young to remember Fermi drivers
Underage & b&
>>319688825
R9 280x
>>319688647
What games are not working with Radeon lately, specifically? I'm really curious
>>319695838
>mfw amd shills always show up in gpu threads
>mfw they can't say anything good about their own brand so they talk shit about the competition
reminds me of liberals desu
>>319695783
>>319695906
I forgot to add that it's current year anno domini year of our lord 2015. AMD is literally hot shit :^)
>>319694790
a broken pile of code endorsed by Nvidia™ GameWorks™, just like Fallout 4 and JC3
>>319696051
AMD don't cripple old cards and don't lie about their cards' specs
>>319695404
So did Nvidia on more than one occasion.
>>319692304
Both things are non issues
The 290x is more ready for dx12 than any Nvidia card on the market right now and with the Arctic accelero xtreme III I get a max temp of 68° with an overclock of 1150/1400
>>319696125
FO4 and JC3 aren't even in the same league senpai
>>319696051
>proving my point: the post
I was going to get a 390 but I just changed my mind after reading that nvidia cards get incredibly superior driver support.
>>319696331
I can run Batman at 1440p better than Fallout 4 to be honest famiglia
>>319696340
>proving my point: the post
don't be fucking stupid like people in this thread
wait for pascal
Ok
LAST QUESTION
R9 390 or 290x
>>319696420
>I lie on the internet to be honest famiglia
>>319696472
390
someone help. I bought the 390 a little while ago and ever since I'd had these small horizontal distortions happen.
They appear when there is motion, with the most happening when there is a crazy amount of motion like flinging your camera around a lot.
They appear even when scrolling down web pages or watching videos. I've tried taking screenshots of it but when I do they don't appear.
I think the issue might be the monitor but I have no clue.
>>319696415
>incredibly superior driver support
Which will get quickly disregarded when the Pascal cards get released, and will then be subject to gimping.
>>319696472
I'd say 290x.
It's a very good price/performance ratio, but both are good.
>>319696597
Does that ever happen to AMD cards?
Still seems like a better purchase since it'll at least have drivers
>>319696569
You mean screen tearing? Have you updated your drivers?
who here /r9380andi54690k/
>>319696569
Like this?
>>319696525
I'm being completely honest. I finished Batman before the big patch at 1440p about 50~60fps on foot and 30~40 driving the batmobile and using a 390x and I had to download a fuck lot of mods to run Fallout 4 decently at 1080p
>>319696569
If it's not coming up in the screenshot it's probably the monitor
What kind of monitor, and what input are you using
>>319696569
sounds like tearing
>>319696773
I'm pretty sure I have
Yeah it's kind of like that but there's quite a few minuscule lines that are rippling, it's subtle but just enough that I'm constantly reminded of it.
>>319696673
No, look at the 7970/280x now, 3 years old and still kicking ass
There are quite a few games that can/do eat more than 3.5GB of VRAM on fairly modest settings at 1080p, and others that still benefit from having a lot. And there will only be more as time goes on since consoles have a good chunk of RAM if nothing else.
The 390 will probably do better in DX12 and Vulkan games, but who knows how many of those will actually materialize.
They each have pros and cons, you might prefer Nvidia's better day 1 release track record, you might prefer 390's extra RAM and overall slight performance edge.
390 is better until you realize that every game hates AMD's support and their drivers are garbage. The card in theory works better but do you really wanna buy a card that will struggle for several weeks when playing any newly released game?
>>319696673
Nope, and as a matter of fact AMD cards in general get better as time goes on. The R9 290 (x) came out in 2013 and at the time were beaten by the 700 series cards. Fast forward to now and the R9 290 runs circles around the 780. The no drivers meme is just that, a meme; AMD releases beta drivers quite frequently and 99% of the time have no issues. Nvidia's drivers are WHQL signed but are by no means bug free.
>>319696868
this one
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Simple-27-Inch-Monitor-Finish/dp/B00IEZGY7G
and I'm using hdmi
>R9 290
>i5 4690k
>can play star wars BF on ultra 2x AA and broadcast with OBS
>120 FPS game
fuck the 390 for 1080p
just get a cheaper 290
>>319688434
Freesync shits on gsync kek
>>319696795
yes it's similar but it's not as jarring as that. There's quite a few more lines and it is subtle but noticeable enough that I am constantly reminded of it.
>>319696597
>>319697209
>>319696978
I think I'll just wait for the Pascal cards to come out, I'm assuming they'll be in the 300-400 price range for a mid level card though right?
>>319688434
fucking retard
>>319697347
You can't find a new R9 290 that easily, and used GPUs are NEVER a good idea.
>>319696946
Did you download the drivers from the website or the CD that came with your card? The CD drivers aren't the latest. It's probably not your monitor, screen tearing is usually related to your GPU.
>>319688434
Freesync, VCE, and yes AMD has drivers-included downsampling. In fact AMD was first with direct supersampling options for DX9 games.
>290X released 2 years ago
>Still buttfuck any 970
It's a bit sad when you think about it
>>319697452
That's ideal I think. It's stupid to buy a 900 series card now.
AMD is for poor manchildren on a budget that like to buy mediocre trash parts.
Nvidia is for good looking, responsible adults that don't want low quality goods and will pay more for better reliability and consistency.
See, if you have to choose between the 970 and 390, then you go with the 390.
But if a 980 is in your budget, then by all means go for that one instead.
I want to get a pc able to stream DS3 at 60 fps and record some shit, 1080p.
970/390 can do that?
The processor is the i7 4790k.
>>319697452
This nobody knows.
And the "huge performance leap" is still smoke and marketing right now.
>>319697584
>Still buttfuck any 970
Are you really this delusional?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKwShksXuLU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ-VmE-yRBQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpfrJ-GulyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9walJtvG60
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8FegvUMvQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aj0bZgTq1x4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5aPkZFnVYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGQvFfBVGtY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkuB2IUttyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=12&v=3T1nNbRrtHg&hd=1
>>319696415
Broken as fuck on Windows 10.
>>319697623
>It's stupid to buy a 900 series card now.
>tfw just bought a 970
>Nvidia makes scummy, gimped cards
>every second AAA-release shits itself on AMD cards
its a tough life, being a pc uck
>>319697758
AMD virgins blown the fuck out once again.
>>319697875
The 970 is a fine card (inb4 virgins spout 3.5 meme), but didn't you know that they were about to price cut it to 260? how much did you spend?
>>319697519
Yes I'm pretty sure I am on the latest drivers. I'm uninstalling all AMD software/drivers right now and am going to reinstall them
>>319696243
>i buy amd cause they are good guys
those cards are shit tho
>>319698041
Actually, I checked your monitor and it only supports VGA and HDMI.
Are you using the VGA or HDMI input for your monitor? If VGA, that's probably your problem. Analog cables are fucking trash. Switch to HDMI.
>>319698023
$270
It was on sale for $240 on newegg, but I had to pay sales tax.
>>319698152
That's really not bad.. if you're playing at 1080p you're great. That's actually an amazing deal because I think the 390x is 300 bucks anyway.
Don't fall for the memes, I highly doubt you'll have any complains when all is said and done.
>>319698124
I buy nvidia cards but what's wrong with AMD again? I really don't hear complaints on either side from what my friends say, the only people who cry about card brands I've seen are fags on /v/ and /g/.
>>319698129
I'm using HDMI.
Is there any chance that this issue might have something to do with power supply?
>>319698537
highly unlikely
are you using aero in windows? tearing on desktop has only ever happened to me with aero disabled
>>319698681
I have no idea what aero is
>>319698537
Depends. What's the wattage?
>>319688148
390
it's winter now.
>>319698728
its the windows theme. Everyone gets screen tearing. You should force v sync and triple buffering in the control panel. Only other option is a freesync monitor m8. this is a 390 right?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RpTMzy
Anything that I could safely replace to lower the price a little bit? In general, rate pls.
>>319698728
then it's probably not that, try changing the pixel format around and see if it helps
>>319697623
I'm just worried then that my CPU will be outdated, especially since I'm building my PC pretty gradually; how long do you think an FX8350 will be relevant? I don't mind getting a new one in at least 2 years
>>319699138
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RpTMzy
Most people say seagate is bad. You can get two Western Digital Blue Caviar 1 tb for 50 each, do you really need it all one one drive? Also you can buy a legit windows key from reddit for 15 bucks.
>>319699138
Fixed it
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2374Hx
>>319698971
yeah it's the 390
I have some experience with both AMD and Nvidia GPUs.
I prefer AMD even though I currently use a GTX 770.
>>319699567
Hm, why would people say that? I have a Seagate 1TB and I have had zero problems with it.
>do you really need it all on one drive
I'd like too, yes. I plan on putting in an SSD as well for the OS solely, but I would like all the space to be on one drive.
And the OS is just what I'll be using, I never said I was going to buy it. But I might pick up a cheap key in that case.
>>319699138
Strange build indeed. All that money spent and you don't have an SSD and only a 390. Is this purely gaming?
>>319700017
The SSD is an afterthought. I wanted all the main stuff done and sorted out first. As for the single GPU, I have literally zero need to have a second one.
>is this purely gaming?
Yes. The career's I want to get into have nothing to do with computers.
>>319699950
Some say it's unreliable. It's your call, if the data is important to you, or if you have backups. If it's solely games I guess it doesn't matter in the long run. /g/ and /v/ usually universally discourage it. for ssd, the samsung evo series is usually recommended.
>>319699138
I've seen from multiple sources that Sapphire 390s are superior
>>319700462
How does the Crucial SSD hold up to Samsung? It's a bit cheaper
>>319700713
Also the Mushkin, which is even cheaper and suggested on Tom's Hardware
970 definitely. tried amd once, not going back.
on a side note, is the 980 ti worth the $650? asking for my indecisive self
>>319700949
At least you can ask yourself if it's worth that much. I have to ask myself if it's worth $1k
>>319698971
I'm not quite sure where to force v sync and turn on triple buffering.
I'm sorry that I'm inept
>>319701559
I found triple buffering in the catalyst software but not sure where to turn on v-synce
>>319698420
>fags are fags
>people who properly overclock their cards almost always see similar results dollar for dollar, with cards from each manufacturer coming to blows splendidly.
>each manufacturer has minor setbacks every now and again.
these boards are absolutely filled with trolls. neo-/v/ aka /b/ 2.0 is here to stay.
gonna ask here because fuck /g/
If i had around 500 to spend on someting to play vidya with, should i buy a pc with them, and if so any suggestions?
OR should i just buy a ps4 and save up until i can get a decent computer, i would have to buy a monitor aswell.
Thinking PS4 and then buying a PC when i can afford a decent rig + monitor
>>319701656
>>319702257
You could save a few hundred more and get a decent rig and get a secondhand PS4 down the line
GTX 970.
>>319697684
Good to know that you're an AMDshill
>>319702257
You seem a bit green, so let me get at you.
You build a pc now, in the midst of the DDR4, storage, and processor changes you will likely regret it, but not as badly as you'll regret a ps4 NOW. You just are not going to get your moneys worth. If I were you I'd say be patient. Wait another year, and this time next year throw down a g and some change on a sweet rig and a second-hand ps4.
You will be better able to future proof your hardware at that time, and most ps4 games that you'll have wanted at this time this year will be in the bargain bin.
>>319702847
I dont give a shit about any of that desu, I have nothing to play vidya atm except a shitty laptop that barely runs WoW
I just want to play vidya and i'm just wondering which one should i get, a computer for 500 now or a ps4 and play with that while i save up for a decent computer
But if stuff is about to change with components maybe i should wait a bit, maybe ill get "old" parts cheaper then when the new ones arrive
>>319702847
forgot to mention that im not one who cares about graphics that much, ill be happy if im able to play games on 720p/med
I'll most likely get PS4 now and save up for that computer.
Thanks for the info tho m8
>>319703113
>>319703439
>impatient
>buys console
You have much to learn.
>>319703439
Don't buy a PS4 unless you really want Rock Band 4 and Bloodbourne
There's not much else on there that isn't already on PC that you can build a really cheap build and do other things with as well as the back catalog PC has. this is coming from someone who has both.
>>319703607
I just came back from military duty overseas and all i want to do is play videogames with my mates, I was just asking mate no need to get your panties in a twist
Im gonna get a PS4 now and a PC later
>>319703780
I'll mostly play stuff like FIFA with the occasional multiplat/exclusive so im not that bothered. Of course i know they're better on PC but that'll have to wait since theres no point in me buying a pc for 500 when i can do it right once i save up a bit
>>319688825
280x or 380x
>>319696472
390
>>319688825
Who's this semen demon?
So how terrible is this? Keep in mind, I'm looking at spending no more than £600/$900 really want to use it for vidya but I'm bothered about going beyond 1080p 60FPS. I'll probably also do some programming for uni. Pic just because I don't know if PC parts are more expensive in the UK.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/6NRVxr
>>319704476
Correction, I'm not bothered about going above 1080p 60FPS
>>319704476
FX-6300 is really cheap right now but you're 2 years late to the party... Get Intel instead because the FX-6300 is going to fuck you up in the long run and there are no good upgrade options either.
>inb4 8 cores
>>319695679
Don't know what to tell you, turn down shadows and grass draw distance and I can run it just fine on high settings. The only time it drops below 50 is when there are a lot of bodies present, especially during cut scenes.
AMD never again. I've pretty much always gotten the card with best bang/buck in my price range before but the software just doesn't work when it feels like it so AMD is not worth it. Forcing 3D settings never did work for example; just using game settings and it's just slow and unresponsive as shit. Takes a minute to open Catalyst Control Center if you haven't used it in a while and only 10 seconds to open Nvidia control panel.
Also them damn microstutters. I've always gotten them with ATI/AMD cards in select games since early 2000s and never with Nvidia.
>>319704476
i3 6100 shits all over the FX 6300 in gaming, especially with higher clocked DDR4 memory
also leaves you room to upgrade to an i5 or i7 later
>>319690357
>My friend who had been using a 770 for years is officially done with Nvidia and going AMD after all the shit happening with their drivers on Windows 10.
Ha same here for different reasons. I got a 760 which shittedon the 960 until nvidia went gameworks and shitted on our performance. Welp going AMD too seeing as once they release their drivers within a week to unfuck what gameworks does, they are superior.
Had no idea they fucked shit up on windows 10 good thing I didn't upgrade.
