Are they EVER going to get around to adding the Pit Lord and any other remaining heroes to this piece of shit? It feels like it has been forever since they last bothered to add one.
>>319652639
Are new or something? they dont care about the game itself since years ago.
>>319652639
>Pit Lord and any other remaining heroes
Just Pit lord and Arc warden are missing. But yeah, it's weird not having PL (now AU) considering it's older than a lot of the recent ones
where patch fuk la
Dude they literally just gace dota 2 the full tf2 treatment a few months ago. Well get pitlord next dec. And arc warden in 2018
>>319652639
>playing a valve game
>not expecting the updates to eventually go to shit along with the community
>>319652639
No. You'll get Arc Warden this winter but it'll be the last hero release as well as the last major update to the game. Valve have abandoned Dota 2 just like they did with TF2. We don't even know if IceFrog is still alive or if he's still working at Valve.
almost 300 days since the last hero addition
next week m8 they said so on blog
>adding more heros to the clusterfuck balance to fuck it even more up
"We are happy to announce, that after finishing the tuning of our client, we are out of beta! We now have the resources to s̶h̶i̶t̶ ̶o̶u̶t̶ release a new hero every two weeks! Don't forget to buy the new epic arcana set along with the hero for only $35.99! :) ...and 2 weeks later we will nerf that hero so you are back to using the same ~30 heros over and over again making the other 2/3 totally useless!" -signed r̶i̶o̶t̶ valve
>>319655871
which clusterfuck
man get out you 3k shitter
the majors had a large hero pool, and if you weren't such a new shit you know we have 2 more heroes to port
fuck outta here
>>319655683
To say they abandoned it is retarded when they changed focus to "competitive gameplay". Whatever they done, right or wrong? They have not abandoned it.
>>319656010
sorry i cant get past 3900 dad :(
>>319652639
>Are they EVER going to get around to adding the Pit Lord and any other remaining heroes to this piece of shit?
you mean all 2 of them?
arc warden is coming next week idiot
>>319656236
>>arc warden is coming next week idiot
Fucking lying idiot. go troll d2g.
>>319654624
>>319654976
>>319655683
>Most played game on steam
>>319652639
>and any other remaining heroes
Pit lord is the only one left you casual piece of shit. Have you ever even PLAYED dota 1? Holy fuck, I cant believe there are people who play this game seriously enough to make a thread about it but are so fucking stupid they dont even know what the full roster is. Kill yourself.
>>319656413
>Players playing = developer support
wew lad
>>319656416
>converting existing character models to a new engine takes 300+ days
>>319656416
Arc warden?
You can kill yourself now.
>>319656413
that's not csgo though
>>319656569
who is this semen demon?
>>319656869
In his defensekill yourself you fucking retard, Arc Warden came out in DotA long after Dota 2 was released
>>319656569
b-but its beta !! They will fix this
>>319656131
I'd say letting a skeleton crew run the game and pumping out 2 updates a year is pretty abandoned
>>319656413
TF2 was at some point too anon
Valve is focusing on CS now unfortunately. Dota is going the way of TF2 and l4d and half life before it
>>319657251
>last major update was fucking 7 month ago
6.85 (is a filler it doesnt count)
JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP
Dota 2 or League of Legends?
Which one is better?
You have to pick one, you can't say none or both.
>>319657565
none.
>>319657565
Its a matter of choice
Russians and Peruvians?
Or 10 year olds and Polaks?
>>319657761
True, but neither is worth it tbqh.
>>319657565
>pay /grind for heroes
>not pay /grind for heroes
Pick
>>319652639
Patch tonight desu senpai, they're gonna read the patch notes at The Summit
Just play custom games until then, it's what I'm doing
>>319658031
If getting free heroes was enough to keep people satisfied then people wouldn't be upset that dota 2 was dying
>>319658090
What custome game is that?
>>319658213
How is it dying?
>>319658090
This looks like smite
If someone made smite in dota2 with the custom tools, HOLY SHIT that's amazing.
>>319658279
Slayers of the Ancients
>>319658703
But you can already do that in vanilla doto, just use the cinematic camera :^)
>>319654976
This is true for every game regardless of developer.
>>319658213
It's not fucking dying, it's thriving. Easily most popular game on steam.
Either you're a LoLfag or believing ebin shitposts on /v/, I don't know which is worse.
>valve ruining and abandoning TF2
>valve ruining CS:GO with recent patch
>dota ded gaem
valve is pretty good at not being able to exploit the potential of their franchise desu
>>319655871
It was funny up until you said something about them nerfing heros so the same 30 are used over and over again. You clearly don
t play dota
>>319658846
I don't know how you could make the left click an auto attack with the triggers from the vanilla dota editor but if you couldNICE
This looks really cool.
>>319658978
>not being able to exploit the potential of their franchise
they already exploited them though
do you realize how much money Valve has made from Dota's item trade community alone? more than what Half-Life 3 would have sold.
>>319659032
there are maybe less than 10 dota heros that are total trash compared to the rest
Valve are too smart to just release those characters.
They know that when they release a character it will create a buzz and a lot of people who have stopped caring about Dota will come back.
All they have to do is throw a bone once in a while to stir up the community. The next hero will be released in a Christmas update or something, there's going to be a Christmas game mode and you'll earn coins and shit.
>>319656514
>>319657016
>>319657424
>Exactly three replies
>Full of misinformation or trying to pass opinions for facts
>>319652639
zet is being added in 6.86
screencap this
>>319657565
They have different strengths and weaknesses, it's like comparing Smash 4 to Sony Smash.
I prefer dota because of the crazy shit you can do, even if I think the game is a patchwork frankenstein monster of adhoc balance patches putting out fires caused by not thinking things through.
>>319658949
yeah but with other devs, its usually because they thought a new mechanic/feature or whatever would improve the game and it doesn't
with valve, they know exactly what they're doing and how its going to affect the game and they do it anyway
>>319659519
it's not hard to "confirm" something that's been confirmed for months now. he's coming with Zeus remodel and arcana with a xmas gamemode, it's been common knowledge for about 2 months.
>>319659065
I mean, it only makes sense that someone would be able to use Source to make a shooter, but I agree
>>319657565
>p2w
>community somehow even worse than dota2
>horrible balance
>boring heroes
>half of the heroes arent even viable
lol is shit. thank god i quit years ago
>>319659363
They can't just release a hero. They have to make a huge promotion out of it. Hype it up with a Makarni comic that is actually a big ad for the new 30$ set, then let the new hero rot in captain's mode limbo for at least half a year.
>>319660036
honestly, i dont even care about the new heroes as much. i just want to see them rework earth spirit in a way that he can be added. also they reworked terrorblade and took him out of CM and hes still fucking awful
>>319660036
>tfw the days when items dropped after every match
>tfw valve listen to reddit and went full greed mode
>>319660405
>BZZ Pugna
>BZZ PUGNA
>B Z Z P U G N A SET
yeah, i'm glad that shit's gone
Why is it ok for them to just steal from warcraft 3
>>319660405
theyre getting worse and worse with their moneygrabbing
the major goypendium was trash
>>319660520
steal? how?
>>319660586
Isn't pit lord literally a monster in warcraft 3? I get that the game sprouted from wc3 but fucking stop
>>319660516
yea me too mate free items? Fuck that shit I pay for my cosmetics like the whore I am.
>>319660659
hes not called pit lord in dota 2. also the only thing they "stole" are the models, which vaguely look like their WC3 counterpart
>>319660692
also you cant trade or sell the items on the market if they dropped from a match. fucking hell the items you got from the latest compendium you couldnt even gift to friends
>>319660692
>not wanting to support the gaben
>wants retarded drops after each game when they were all garbage 1 common item of an even shittier set
nobody except poorfags wants those stupid drops that ended being insta deleted back
>>319660659
HOW DOES THIS?
>>319660929
go suck gabens dick on reddit
>>319660962
RELATED TO THIS!
Employees at valve can decide what to work on, right?
Since there haven`t been any substantial updates in the pas year or so, what the fuck are they working on?
What's the best hero anyway?
>>319661013
better than being a delusional poorfag desu senpai
>>319661131
dazzle and wyvern are fucking cancer
>>319661131
ERF SPIRIT
TOO HOT FOR CAPTAINS MODE
>>319661163
What's wrong with Wyvern?
>>319661119
>If only they got a blog news and a database where the assets got leaked because they need to upload it first to test server
desu senpai poyo poyo
>>319661016
>spider legs
>>319661119
I don't remember Reborn was out last year.
>>319661206
ult is bullshit
cold embrace is nearly as bullshit
not nearly as bad as dazzle or slardar though
>>319661119
hopefully some vr game so we can stop playing dota and cs.
>>319659065
>>319658846
wait is this actually source 2?
>>319660659
He's not called Pit Lord in Dota 2, but people are gonna call him that since that's what he was called in . Either way, a pit lord is not something unique to Warcract.
>>319652639
That's because it HAS been fucking forever. They'ev only added ONE hero this year. One. Valve are the laziest shits ever. This is what happens when you have a hipster workplace where employees can 'do whatever they feel like working on'. Every year the addition of heroes gets slower and slower, as if they are actually making shit up even though the heroes already fucking exist and all they need is to just make the models and bells and whistles. There's almost no creative fucking process to just importing shit from a previous game.
God help us when they actually have to make a NEW hero. 2016 is going to be a shit year for DotA with more compendiums than actual content.
>>319661354
If you're complaining about supports why not complain about Witch Doctor's hilariously OP ult
>>319661119
>literally port the game to a new engine
NO UPDATES OMG
>>319652639
>Smite, one of the three big names of MOBA
>A new God every 2 months
>Worst god has 49% winrate, best has 55% because balance is valued
>Patchnotes every Wednesday
>Available on Xbox one and soon available on PS4
>New skins every week or so, all done by the dev team instead of a third party
>Hi-rez probably doesn't even have 1/100 of valve's size
>Playerbase is 1/10 of Dota
I'm not here to say Smite is better. I'm here to show how Valve doesn't give a fuck about Dota and just care about the money.
>Winter wyvern was released 300 days ago.
>>319661119
Orange Box 2
>>319661385
doto been dat for ages
>>319661443
2k shitter detected
>>319661385
While /v/ are discussing SJW and censorship, people are having fun with custom map.
Funny thing is I barely remember /v/ ever discussing WC3 custom maps beside the nostalgia threads.
>>319656010
>Large hero pool
And they all got fucking trashed by 'le balanced walrus and ginger xDDD'
300 days since last hero added.
they still have to finish the porting of all dota1 heroes after so many years and many multi-million tournaments.
they don't have to build a profitable nuclear fusion reactor, just 3 models, 2 sets and the animation for 9 abilities god fucking dammit.
i am going to be very deluded if they don't release everything today(because the new big patch is supposed to be today actually!).
>>319661119
Internal projects
VR, managing Steam, Source engine 2.0 updating 3 of their most popular games, unannounced stuff, etc.
>>319661668
>because the new big patch is supposed to be today actually
source?
>>319661598
>WR winrate is 34% on all teams and only 60% on secret in major.
>Meanwhile most picked carry like SF got 54% on all teams
>not a single people complain
B-BUT SHE'S OP ABLOO ABLOO.
>>319661598
wr isnt that good right now since wyvern and dazzle are so popular. tusk is bullshit yeah, but nearly not as bad as some of the shit we've had before
take 6.84 leshrac for example
>>319661668
>supposed to be today
reddit rumors, but hopefully
>>319659032
>Implying there isn't a seriously repetitive pattern in pro-faggotry scene.
>Any variation from the winning pattern of 10-15 heroes more often than not means a loss.
It's always the same boring shit. The game's balance fucking sucks. There are clearly heroes in the game that just do everything better than their 10-15 counterparts each, otherwise you wouldn't see them in almost every single fucking match, with the teams that try to get cute utterly punished unless it's some heavily slanted matchup with one really good team against some trash BR team in the group stage or something.
>>319661757
>le balanced soul collector man
>get raped in lane by a better player
>clear stacks with raze in under 5 seconds
>suddenly ahead of the enemy mid in levels
fair and balanced hero guys
>>319657565
I played LoL first but I prefer doto, the heroes are more fun to play with multiple builds, and you can actually play however you want instead of sticking to the retarded 1 top 1 mid 1 jungle 2 bot meta that LoL is eternally stuck in.
Also no need to grind heroes, runes, and masteries that force you to do cookie cutter min maxing shit builds.
>>319661668
>Expecting the patch today.
Anon, the earliest we are getting that shit is thursday next week. They were pretty specific about 'mid' December. Couple onto that their complete inability to release shit on their own damn schedules.
>>319661757
dont bother. Storm was something like 46% winrate and he was still gutted because reddit cried
>>319661945
SF only need to increased the Raze manacost.
I don't know why people keep shitting on WR when only literally ONE team got high winrate with it.
Its like people only watch WR game and ignored other heroes games.
SF is the most sinfull heroes since forever, most safe pick carry ever.
>>319661972
i never got the point of runes and masteries anyway
they're just +stats, nothing interesting, why are they even there?
>>319662063
>game should be balanced based on pub-winrate
i bet you think ember spirit is a weak hero too
>>319661945
I hate this so fucking much. The fact that mid lane is now completely dominated by insta-wave clearing magic spamming bullshit that there is just no good answer to so every fucking match it's nothing but fucking SF, QoP, and maybe Tusk and Ember.
>>319661454
Why would they bother updating the engine of the game if they dont add new stuff?
>>319662182
>>game should be balanced based on pub-winrate
Reddit complaining about SS pub actually.
Ti5 only got 3 player who knows play SS correctly.
>>319662225
>hundreds of custom games
>no new stuff
>>319662225
I wonder about that too.
>>319659658
>>319658846
>>319658090
>>319662225
custom games was a huge deal, but now they should focus on the core dota stuff
The fuck? One of the last two heroes is being added this coming update which is coming this week or next week. I'll agree it's stupid that it took this fucking long but it's coming any moment now so this question is dumb.
>>319662182
>i bet you think ember spirit is a weak hero too
hes my favorite and yes he is. I do believe they should rework his ulti or at least rescale it. He just flat out drops after midgame
>>319662548
are you b8ing me or are you just that bad
>>319662324
>>319662358
Custom games are shit. I'm talking about new mechanics like vector targeting or dynamic maps. Hon already had those three years ago. I mean why would you limit new heroes to dota1 engine, if you can literally do anything with source
>>319656569
>Balance already done, all spells and numbers for the hero are already there
>Basic idea for a model/concept already existing
>All they have to do is stop being a bunch of lazy dick suckers and give my fucking pit lord got damn stupid cykabljat valve
People still play this dead game?
Russians and Brazilians with Windows xp e-machines don't count as people.
>>319662182
>they're just +stats, nothing interesting, why are they even there?
I have no idea, to give people the illusion of the choice or making them feel like their build is unique? Even if you didn't have to grind the mastery tree is so poorly made that everybody look for the most effective builds on internet.
>>319662641
>Vector targeting
>Dynamic map
It exist, you can do this in custom map.
>why would you limit new heroes to dota1 engine, if you can literally do anything with source
Because valve doesnt in charge with balance of the game.
Next you gonna complain about turn rate too.
>>319662758
its there just to sell p2w ip boost shit
>>319662634
I agree with him, he can deal huge damage but he is super fragile.
>>319658090
sauce is slayers of the ancients
Why add them for free when they can be compendium stretch goals? Just like the model updates.
>>319662324
>Custom games
>Made by users
>All are dogshit anyway
>Any PvP custom game is just a race to see which side abandons first.
>>319662705
>he doesnt know Source2 drop support for old gpu under year 2009 and XP
>he wasn't there when peruvians and pinoys complain about their toaster can't handle the 64bit source 2 unlike the old 32bit source.
>>319663046
Sounds like the good old bnet.
>>319662943
well when you can potentionally oneshot people with cleave and have retarded mobility to constantly move around the map then it kinda has to be fragile or it would be the most overpowered hero in the game
one of the best lategame heroes
>tfw you only play custom maps anymore
real dota is so fucking boring now holy shit
Why do people play these games
if i wanted 12 year old brown boys to yell at me I'm sure there are less painful ways
>Pit Lord remains unruined by the garbage Dota 2 artstyle
all is well
>>319663169
He's pure glasscannon only when farmed and pure useless when got locked down for couple seconds
That's why Secret Ember lost to EG when PPD draft three disable heroes, not even BKB, manta or linken can save EE from EG draft.
>>319663046
>2hu
>dogshit
why
>>319663363
>12 year old brown boys to yell at me
sounds lewd
>>319662548
>He just flat out drops after midgame
only if you're bad
>>319663363
>12 year old brown boys to yell at me
this is my fetish
hi valve my name is pit lord
im big im fat im gay, im always in the way
give me 48-size collision that comes with my shit tier model so i cant fit in juke paths
also please give me an ultimate, I hate being a hero with 3 skills.
>>319663398
>a hero is weaker when the enemy team drafts against it
wow amazing observation!
>>319663554
Thanks.
>>319663398
well yeah, lockdown is how you counter him
>>319663363
You sound like a weak ass faggot, also the 12 years old are just trench dwellers, git gud and you won't see them anymore.You will play with cykablyats instead
Is there any custom map with normal 3- or 4-team dota gameplay? No gimmicks or custom shit, just a normal map except with 3-4 ancients and bases.
>>319663656
Any escape heroes always got countered by lockdown.
But you are retarded if you try this same method on tanky carries like huskar.
>>319663667
>can you please purchase the courier
>axaxxaaxaxaaxaaxa
>>319663054
So what you're telling me here is 80% of the playerbase is locked out of the game?
>>319661598
WR sucks ass
>>319663738
Overthrow
3 teams against each other.
5v5v5
No base to defend
Pure clash.
>>319662815
actually i would love for valve to expand the mechanics of turnrate.
Imagine this:
- Remove blink dagger from the game
- Earthshaker has now a slide ability which enables him to slide on and off his fissures .
He now has an interesting and unique mechanic with almost no effort
>>319663871
Overthrow isn't normal dota though.
>>319663806
Unless they start stealing new PC.
>>319663894
>you have now fucked 40% of the heropool
>>319652639
Will they have "original" heroes? Would they be able to port some from HoN or some other games like what Smash does?
>>319664028
Because they are dependent on one item which is a bad design to start with.
>>319663894
> Earthshaker has now a slide ability which enables him to slide on and off his fissures .
Its interesting indeed but i don't see the point of balance in that.
If you want to rework a hero see the history of Treant Protector "6 months of rework non-stop" history.
>removing blink
turn the game into kite fest.
Blink Dagger in dota(aside of heroes with natural blink) was always meant as initation instead of escape mechanism.
>>319664247
>was always
"is always"
>>319663894
list of heroes completely trashed by removal of blink, earthshaker excluded
>Sven
>Panda
>Cent
>Axe
>Slardar
>Sand King
>Magnus
>Nyx
>Lina
>Lion
>Enigma
>Tide
>Batrider
>Wyvern
and that's just the heroes who get blinks 99% of the time, even the heroes who get it >60% of the time won't be picked
>>319663803
what if courier was given to you at the start of game but flying upgrade costed three times as much?
>>319663931
WHO THE FUCK WANT TO PLAY ACTUAL DOTA IN REBORN?
>love csgo, get to global
>all my friends dont play csgo
>play dota 2 EVERY fucking day every fucking night
>join in on them cause soloqueue is boring
>mfw trying to comprehend how my friends can spend hours upon hours on this boring ass inherently/objectively shitty game
i tried to enjoy it but holy fuck what a piece of shit dota 2 is.
>>319661945
Maybe stack are the problem and not the hero.
> Game has gotten bugfixes 3 times this month and gets at least two a week usually
> Semiregular balance batches
> b-b-b uut i want more heroes
Just play LoL faggots. Dota2 already has more variety than LoL will ever have.
Its already hard enough to keep interesting and balanced as it stands and lots of care have to be taken before adding any new hero unless you take LoL's approach and make them carbon copies of each other with items that don't provide anything of interest but numbers
>>319664420
SF is the fastest heroes in clearing stack and upcoming wave.
>900 AoE damage with only 225 mana cost and low cooldown on all 3 skills.
>>319664342
Lina doesn't need blink senpai
>>319664408
4 team dota would be fun though
>>319664491
Actually, i quit Dota for LoL ~3 months ago and LoL actually has interesting heroes now instead of them being the carbon copies they used to be. I was surprised too, but Riot is doing a better job at creating a compelling game right now than Valve is.
>>319664415
>i tried to enjoy it
How long? Dota is not something you can grasp in 5 hours or so. If you're playing with friends who have more experience you'll play against more experience people too, play by your own.
>>319664415
>love dota 2, get to 6k
>all my friends dont play dota
>play csgo EVERY fucking day every fucking night
>join in on them cause soloqueue is boring
>mfw trying to comprehend how my friends can spend hours upon hours on this boring ass inherently/objectively shitty game
i tried to enjoy it but holy fuck what a piece of shit dota 2 is.posted by an asukafag nonetheless
>>319652639
lolnub pls go
>>319664642
The exact opposite happened to me.
I played vanilla doto for years and then my brother made me switch to League for a bit. Played for 3 years, got to Plat, but realized that the meta constantly changing in favor of new, usually overpowered champions kind of get old as other champions literally become obsolete. The meta enforcement from Riot itself is also killing most of the fun,
>>319664415
>love csgo
just play that and stay away from dota 2
it's for the best
>>319664642
Nice I guess.
Won't get into LoL because I really don't have the time to grind for content as a casual player of these games.
Also, in DOTA's defense they got the whole new engine and custom games thing going
Would like to see more community game mods that are minor community rebalances of the base game rather than "LOL LE EPIC 100 PLAYER MATCH"
>>319664652
Can you make your post any more confusing?
So do you like dota or hate it?
>>319664779
>The meta enforcement from Riot itself is also killing most of the fun,
>one starcraft player make a thread "why dota instead of lol" in leddit
>he actually post the opposite one in lol leddit
>everyone in lol leddit talk about meta enforcement.
>the only things what make them still play it because its easier, more flashy and already spend too much money on heroes.
Jesus is it really that bad?
holy crap, i just opened steam stats
cs:go is in first place, its happenning!!!!!!!!!!!
>>319664247
>Blink Dagger in dota(aside of heroes with natural blink) was always meant as initation instead of escape mechanism
It astonishes me how the differences in dota and LoL make completely different games. Flash instead of blink, no turn rates, shit base damage for skills in exchange for scaling, vit booster equivalent health strapped onto numerous offensive and defensive items, etc make a totally different game. Not even sure if they can really be compared
>>319664858
I wouldnt trust the community to balance anything,
Icefrog, while questionable at times isn't all that bad. Fix shackleshot though, that shit is too easy to latch on and sometimes it looks like it shouldn't have
>>319664987
links
>>319665027
Microtransaction is the best thing that ever happen in valve games.
>>319665042
No, I don't mean they should be official either. But it would be fun to test out the shit everybody complains about or wants and see if it would actually work
>>319665027
8/8 upgr8
>>319664987
S1 LoL was fun but admittedly it looked like shit and variety was low because of the comparatively small champ pool. Roll in Season 2 and 3 when the game started getting traction and Riot begins to make changes in the interface to show off what roles you play best. Team matchmaking also shows that there must always be 1 person top, 1 in the jungle, 1 mid, and 2 at bot.
I mean, high MMR Doto games try to enforce a general standard of meta but you can at least still fuck around in pubs. LoL unranked matches have people endlessly bitch about how things aren't "in the meta"
>>319665027
Everyone cosplaying Revolver Ocelot
>>319665075
>reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3vn8d8/why_lol_instead_of_dota_2/
>League is simpler, but that's because it is more 'contained'. The developers actively work to nerf and buff the game to how they want it. Patch times are constant, and usually players find themselves changing playstyles every few months. This is both good and bad in its own way, as it promotes freshness but it punishes commitment to a playstyle. Usually, there is only a few viable choices of champions and team strategies.
>>319652639
Yeah, I don't know what the fuck they're doing. It seems like all they care about are cosmetics for the cash shop and the stupid competitive tournament scene.
It's like they assume that everyone who plays also follows the pros. I couldn't give a fuck about tournaments. I just want to play the game.
The reason they have greatly slowed down the release of hero is so they can maximize the profits of releasing them. That is why they have an 'event' that goes with the release of the hero. More people are going to be playing and they want to capitalize on this. It is also why they will have some $35 set ready right when the hero is released.
>>319658213
>he fell for the ded game meme
>>319664415
I don't know what's bad about dota 2. Could you explain it to me?
>>319665340
But at the same time, most of the people that play the game(Peruvians/Russian/Pinoys) don't give a fuck about how much time has been since new hero/patch ( pro tip: you arr experimenting WC3 era times) as long as the game runs.
>>319665147
Make a custom game base on dota 2 vanilla map.
There already tons of them like Dota Imba or Dota Power X20, you already got the base map of dota 2 to work around with.
>>319664987
What was the dota one talking about?
surrender vote fucking when?
>>319665536
pretty much how dota got more variaty of heroes and better flexible meta
also
>not pay2grind.
>reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/3vnbtd/why_dota_2/
>>319660520
...Because that's what the game is based on?
Blizzard and Valve have had some kind of agreement about this. For example Skeleton King in Dota 2 was removed, and it's not been confirmed, but it's basically known that it was because Blizzard wanted to add Skeleton King to Heroes of the Storm.
>>319665547
Never. My best dota games were made from impossible comebacks.
>>319654976
>go to shit along with the community
>dota 2 community
>go to shit
Jokes on you it can't become worse than it already is.
>>319665547
No thanks, I'd rather comeback or have people like you leave for additional gold.
>>319665691
This, the best feeling is when two people of your team dc, you still fight a 3 v 5 battle and won.
>>319665651
I'm not sure I'd call it an "agreement". It's more that they fucked up hard and are doing anything in their legal power to spite valve.
>>319665691
>be ck
>4 stack on my team keeps saying we lost because I can't outcarry antimage
>they feed relentlessly out of frustraition
>>319652639
No, Valve got bored of Dota 2 and moved onto SteamOS/Controller
Actually since those bombed they are bored of them too, it's time for Steam VR
>>319665691
>Enemy team is down to 23 against 4 kills
>"WE FUCKING LOST" "GG GO ANCIENT"
>They still defend like a mad man.
>we got wipe trying to push high ground
>2 times, 3 times, 4 times my team start fighting between themself.
>We lost roshan fight and they rush our ancient.
I HATE IT!
>>319664342
>>319664247
Most of these heroes have inherent mechanics to close gaps. They are indeed less efficient, but this just proves my point. As soon as a hero is dependend on 1 item, be it blink bkb or bottle, he/she is badly designed.
Cent has an globel move speed burst to get in position, slardar has speed burst, magnus has a gap closer and so on . Blink dagger makes the game really easy in these cases, and ruins individual hero skill. As long as you have good positioning and map awareness, it doesnt matter if you play tide, enigma , cent or magnus. Its all just blink and cast.
>>319665691
For every impossible comeback there's 3 matches where your team is getting stomped and is too retarded for a comeback but you still have to stick around 40-60 minutes even though you know it's a lost cause
>>319665856
>CK outcarry an AM
Oh man, i'm laughing
>>319657565
HotS.
Best of both worlds.
>>319665961
But comeback is awesome.
>>319665961
>but you still have to stick around 40-60 minutes even though you know it's a lost cause
PEOPLE ALREADY LOST SO MUCH AND SAID GG SURRENDER BUT THEY STILL DEFENDING.
HOLY SHIT WHY?
>>319665691
>get crushed for the first 30 minutes
>crawl back into the game
>manage to win after a 70 minute game
>with a shit eating grin on your face, type "gg ez" into allchat
best feel
>>319665961
>Lost cause
Im sure people who think that shit are the reason comebacks don't happen so often. All it takes in Dota 2 is one fuck up sometimes.
>>319664779
Almost the same happens in Dota though. We had months of Leshrac and friends being top-tier pubfuckers and now Doom and Co. took that title. Dota-likes are inherently very VERY easily affected by poor balancing.
>>319664858
Yeah, that's the downside to League, either you pay cash or play a lot.
>>319665961
Just stop defending and get 1 exp every 5 minutes?
>>319658978
11000000+ unique players.
"ded gaem"
good meme go and die
>>319665920
good luck try to gank or initiate anyone by running into them head-on with your "gap closer".
Every hero in lol has a gap closer and they still get flash every single time, which is an extremely gimped blink btw.
>>319665994
>CK will never not be shit
feels bad man
>>319666075
because it counts as an abandon and you get punished for it you retard
>>319666160
>Be NP
>the game lost hard in early.
>people start trashtalking against each other
>try to avoid fight and teleport in any safelane to avoid AFK abandon.
>Accidentally win the game by ratting.
I don't know if this even dota.
>>319666297
just dont spend 5 minutes without getting xp
>>319666297
Two minutes is enought to push high ground and destroy the throne.
But people still act like retard and defend their ancient when they already surrender.
>>319666263
Whoa whoa, when did I ever say that
You don't remember TI3? That Io+CK combo still works like a dream
You just can't outfarm an AM
But people still defend their ancients even though they were stomped hard is what I love about this game.
>>319665905
its called psychological warfare and it seems like you took their bait
>>319656569
>converting existing character models
yeah bro just put it in the WC3 to source converter
it's so fucking easy dude
>>319661516
nah fuck smite, it put the last nail on the Tribes coffin.
>>319665920
>Blink dagger makes the game really easy in these cases,
Well thanks God you cant get blink instanly when the game start.
>As soon as a hero is dependend on 1 item, be it blink bkb or bottle, he/she is badly designed.
is called viable item build
Also any heroes who rush blink first instead of FS against heroes that can counter blink are retarded
If you want to see why valve turned their back on us, go to /r/dota2
Valve started off listening to the community and giving a lot of nods to the various discussion websites. What followed was two and a half years of the most snot nosed entitlement in the history of gaming, literally non-stop complaining.
At least we're not league babies that just suck the shit out of Riot's asshole? Cold comfort when our devs abandon us.
>>319664342
>sven
>cent
>slardar
>sand king
>lina
>wyvern
>completely trashed
Just no.
>>319666554
Ti3? I think that was Ti2 famicon. He hasnt been relevant ever since. Hes kinda scary if 6 slotted but that like every other hard carry
Valve is literally the worst company to produce updates for their any game.
They'd be fucking clueless without Icefrog. I sure fucking hope they'd realize it.
>>319666707
>ES Builds a blink before a FS against Clockwerk
Oh boy, it's gonna be one of those games
>>319666948
TI2 was the Lycan show baby
also Naga, Darkseer, Enigma and Rubick
>>319664652
>what a piece of shit dota 2 is
Perhaps you mean CSGO Anon.
Or perhaps it's aFreudian slip
>>319666913
>implying sk would ever get off a meaningful ult ever again.
>>319666991
And holy shit my post is worded poorly. Change the place of the last 2 sentences.
>>319666992
FS is like a must have item to build against enemy Clock.
Clock pretty much one of the many anti blink/initiator hero.
>>319658213
>dying
>dota 2
Oh so that's why there are more tournaments and bigger prize pools (even in small tournaments) year after year.
When will the Koreans flock onto Dota 2?
Never?
These heroes are ported last because they were already among the most unpopular heroes in wc3 dota. They are the same gimicky "hard to play right but really isn't worth getting gud with them" heroes as oracle and after 1-2 weeks of their release noone will play them.
why the fuck can't they come up with some fresh ideas. We got new cool heroes in wc3 dota all the time and here we have to wait years between just porting a boring old one.
>this thread
>DOTA2 IS DYING VALVE ONLY CARE ABOUT CSGO SKINS
>csgo thread
>VALVE HAVE ABANDONED US FOR DOTA2! WE'RE IN A NEW, LAWLESS FRONTIER KNOWN AS THE WILD WEST
>>319666056
>>319667408
Well you got one company who deal with marketing and promoting LAN cafe with money if they run a minor tourney of LoL.
versus a company who doesnt give a shit about marketing and only care about running a major tournament with high prize pool.I know this because Garena LOL always come to my LAN cafe to promoted their dead game(in my country at least)
>>319667078
Ez mode: force staff
Medium Difficulty: glimmer cape + tranqs/euls/other movespeed item
Hard mode: omg combining other heroes skills (toss/moonlight shadow/stampede... you get it)
>>319667408
Didn't they have their own client or was it China?
>>319667470
I play both and Valve hasn't been developing either one well lately.
>>319667670
It was shut down I think
>>319667670
They had but it was recently shut down. China has one too.
>shitters getting hyped to play heroes they don't know how to play and decimate launch winrates like with Oracle and ES
>especially shitters who never played dota 1 (or worse pretend they did)
Adding heroes every fucking month is balance suicide. Go play LoL if youre so fucking bad you look forward to "new content" like a braying goat.
>>319666912
>At least we're not league babies that just suck the shit out of Riot's asshole?
mfw
>new actually pretty cool new heroes every 1-2 months
>remodells, and new textures for heroes every 2-3 weeks
>reworking heroes with shitty gameplay every 1-2 months
>new events with maps/game modes every now and then
I mean I pretty much only play dota but riot does a really good job with releasing good content recently.
Instead of new heroes I'm more hype for sudden old heroes rework.
New TB is a beast, I already played PL for years in Dota 1 he's one of the most underrated and more useless than ET.
I don't know why these meme spouter care about them, i bet they just want to copy the Techies hype when in the end majority of them either doesnt care about the hero like what happen with Oracle or hate it to the core like Techies.
>>319667465
adding new heroes in dota 1 required just some coding and balancing by icefrog
adding new heroes in dota 2 requires icefrog to get the glacial workforce of valve to code and model an ENTIRE character
>>319668098
Yeah but its still stuck in Adobe.
I think Dota 2 suffers from the same problem Starcraft had
It just feels incomplete for such a long time that evantually people lose interest in waiting for it to be "complete"
Source 1 Dota also had tons of missing features, that were missing ever since the game was in beta and we all waited and waited and waited...and then they released Reborn, which also came with a lot of missing features..that are still missing
And who knows if they will even add them
>>319668098
>reworking heroes with shitty gameplay every 1-2 months
So they rework a hero while a major tournament is still on going or what?
How the hell they balance that shit?
>>319668098
HotS gets new heroes every 3 weeks on the dot :^)
oh and its actually fun unlike LoL and dota and not just full of try hard faggots spewing shit.
and matches arnt 1-1.5 hours long.
>>319667465
>We got new cool heroes in wc3 dota all the time
Yeah it was called Earth Spirit but hes been stuck in Captains mode hell for 2 years now because hes THAT fucking cool.
>>319668282
>HotS gets new heroes every 3 weeks on the dot :^)
Except, you know, this week.
Pst, you guys want to know why adding heroes in dota 2 is more messy than like adding new heroes in other similar MOBA game?Rubick ultimate
>>319652639
Slow buy extremely game changing updates has literally been how it's been done since icefrog first took full control like six years ago
Also pit lord is fucking shit anyway, while arc warden is in constant flux between completely broken and so buggy he's barely playable.
I hope the next patch never comes because icefraud is a complete retard who keeps fucking with core gameplay like his stupid fucking comeback mechanic and buff to early game deathball.
>tfw no deadwood in dota 2
>>319668098
>new events with maps/game modes every now and then
My friends that play LoL told me once that you can play those game modes only for one week or something like that, it doesn't sound really good.
>>319668282
that last thing would be a positive if the matches werenbt artificially ended by objectives
