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hey guys
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I love this gun.

Not just because it's fun to use since it's essentially playing an Arena shooter in CS land

But it just shows the hypocrisy that CS:GO players hate accurate weapons yet say the game takes skill.

If this gun did less damage but could still one shot on head or two to even three shot on body, they would still bitch.
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>>319635627

then it would be the deagle
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>>319635627
they'll bitch no matter what because they're faggots that think their purple deagles are cool when in fact revolvers are far superior.
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>>319635660
No because that's the thing, the Deagle isn't accurate while moving, everything in CS:GO is based around stopping or shooting while sort of "stopping" through strafe changing.
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Best thing to happen to the game in ages.

>>319635627
>it's essentially playing an Arena shooter in CS land

This is what I love, as someone who grew up with arena shooters. Suddenly I'm good at the game.
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>>319635725
Damn right they are, I just wish it had a more satisfying sound to accompany it.
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>>319635424
>he thinks he could take more than one hit of every possible caliber except .22 and not die

This revolver is realistic, at long last.
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>>319635627
>But it just shows the hypocrisy that CS:GO players hate accurate weapons yet say the game takes skill.

And yet one of the things everybody hates about the update is that it made the main guns less accurate and slower to recover. People have been asking for the AK/M4 to be even more accurate for a long time now.
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What's this?
The latest Counter-Strike adds actual new weapons instead of just replicating the previous ones?
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Defend this
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>>319636473
You're pretty good
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This is the single best thing that has happened to Counter Strike since Source zombie mods.

Rocking a Shotgun and this baby is too much fun.
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>>319636473
CS actually has movement skill now
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>>319636651
Why would you use a shotgun when you have the R8?
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>>319636473

wat. can you charge a left click while it's doing the right click animations?
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>>319635627
>CS:GO players hate accurate weapons
the accuracy isn't only the reason people are complaining, its the accuracy COMBINED with being a one-shot-anything-above-the-penis mini-awp that costs 850
you're an idiot if you think this wont get nerfed within a week
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>>319636706

Shotguns = fun.

R8 = fun.

Calculate the result yourself.
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>>319636846
The R8 is a shotgun though.
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>>319636785
As I said, if the damage gets changed along with the price or something like that, yet the accuracy stays, people will still bitch about it because muh movement accuracy.
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I fucking love this gun, but it's obvious it's going to get nerfed.

Everything about it is appealing, the animations, the look, the feeling, etc, etc.
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>>319635424
Never have I wished such a broken gun would stay in the game. I keep mic-spamming the Ocelot boss fight theme and fucking mowing dudes down, it's sex.
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>>319636907

It's a ray of death. Spamming M2 at close range isn't reliable enough as a Mag-7 to the face.
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>>319636907
shotguns have a proper damage dropoff at range though.
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>people still dont understand it was all done on purpose to get big bux from the fucking weapon cases
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>>319635424

bind f "+reload;+lookatweapon"

Hold inspect for a split second and then press rhythmically.
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>>319636473

It looks cool as fuck.
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>mfw stopped playing CS in 2001
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Do guns in this game do damage based on the bullets they used or not?

Where's that fucking picture at where the guy mods his gun to do more damage?
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>>319636473
I'll do.
Range decreases accuracy and damage. It also looks like there a lag.
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>>319637415
>you've never experienced glogious shield fights
missed out
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>>319636473
Nothing to defend, it looks cool
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>>319637415
yeah, Beta 7 was the last straw
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>>319637502
>Do guns in this game do damage based on the bullets they used or not?

No, CS has never been a realistic game.
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>>319637560

stop giving me ptrd
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>>319637691
Then why play it? Why play a tacticool faggot simulator if it isn't realistic?

Why not just play COD?
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>>319637927
Because it "Takes more skill" obviously.
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>>319637927
>tacticool
Stop using phrases you don't understand
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cs is good again, now shitters can't hold the trigger and look at my feet long enough to headshot anyone with this baby
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>>319637927
A game where you can't even aim down sights isn't a simulator
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I bought the game months ago but finally played last night after seeing all these threads. I think about 90% of the times I died was to the R8. Hard to do much against it I feel.
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Hey what's up
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>>319637927
>Then why play it?
Because people like it.

>Why play a tacticool faggot simulator if it isn't realistic?
Since when has CS been a tacticool game or a fucking simulator? There's fucking jumpscouting, deagles, dualies, and tasers.

>Why not just play COD?
Because CoD plays nothing like CS, you fucking retard. Why not just play UT, it's the same as Quake, isn't it?
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People can't seem to understand that you can move and shoot with this.
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>>319635424
hay guyz, remember me?
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MP9 + R8 = unstoppable
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>>319638490
>Because CoD plays nothing like CS...
Now it does
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>>319637415
2005 here
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>>319638721
My bad, I forgot to add that.
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Reminder that R8 is a based Reddit slayer
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>>319636294
You obviously don't play the game. Every gun features calibers large than .22
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>>319636473
but they patched that yesterday you fucking mongoloid
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>>319638564
FUCKING AMAZING
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Shit's hilarious. A more powerful version of the 1.6 deagle.

Balanced for competitive? Technically, both sides can purchase it, so whatever. The deagle isn't as powerful as it once was, so replacing it with the R8 isn't a huge problem. It definitely changes the pistol rounds entirely, though.

It'll be interesting to see how it plays out in tournaments, but I don't think the low capacity and speed will stop 2 CTs from shutting down 5-man tec9/glock pushes, which sort of shits up certain maps.
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>>319638591
I remember that thing being introduced in CS 1.6
It was the best fucking thing ever
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>>319640309

It's nice that we're having people that don't play the game discuss it but at the very least try to imagine what a $850 gun like this does to the game's economy.
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>>319640505

I know this might be a new concept to most people, but try to imagine a world where the designers intended to actually fuck the economy to force meta changes.

The worst thing that can happen is the gun is simply banned at shit like ESL. You can't equip it in competitive. Nothing changes, and casual, pub, and pub competitive players get to keep on dreaming that their input is relevant in any way.
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>>319640309

I was playing against a good team that completely shut us R8 users down. I hope valve keeps it the same. It's so fun to use
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>>319635424
This gun has changed my life. Surf battles are hilarious now
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>>319638830
>It's accurate while jumping and moving? What is this, CoD?
More like Quake
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>>319638564
my god, that is better than an rifle
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>>319640771
>I know this might be a new concept to most people, but try to imagine a world where the designers intended to actually fuck the economy to force meta changes

The economy was (and still is, even if to a lesser extend) one of CS:GO's trademark features and includes a slew of tactical choices, such as eco rounds and force buys, defines available weaponry on a round-by-round basis (should I buy the more expensive weapon but skip on grenades/kit?) and helps balance the T vs CT as the former is expected to suffer casualties while storming a site and is thus rewarded with cheaper/powerful guns and extra money (on successful bomb plant, even if it's the defused and the T's lose, they still get +$800 each).

Somehow you interpret marginalising above options as "challenging the meta". It's not, it's cheapening the game. Don't get me wrong, the gun is hilarious and, as someone who has good aim but was never too good with controlling the inaccuracy (because I tend to move a lot), helps me out big time, I still think in the long run it'll do more harm to the game. At the very least they have to get rid of the ridiculous on the move accuracy.
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>>319638564
and use it while defusing the bomb not op at all
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>>319636785
Well they did it for a reason, so why the fuck would they nerf it?
>its actually pretty obvious that they didn't test the gun at all and it was rushed
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>>319641357

It doesn't necessarily cheapen the game because nobody knows for certain how this gun will play out in actual matches. The feedback is mostly from people who play ranked and whatever else, which is filled with people who are shit at the game and have zero concept of how to actually do things, and instead, do things based around what high level players do, without thinking a single thought as to why they do it, let alone understanding the connotations of doing it in the first place. Even if you are at the top of the ladder you are still shit. That is why you and the chumps you play with aren't invited to tournaments. Your input is also shit.

People thought the same thing about the CZ75, Tec-9 and molotovs/incendiaries, that they would ruin the game. And yeah, the CZ and molotovs got nerfs, but it wasn't knee-jerk. It took a very long time for them to touch them. And the reason they were added in the first place was specifically to force change in a well-established metagame. Nobody wants to watch the same matches play out for a decade. They were good additions. The R8 in it's current form might be broken and destroy competitive and make it unwatchable. It might not. We don't know yet.
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>>319641878
i have never seen an scene that resists more to change than the CS one
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>>319642031
Dota?
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>>319641878

Yet the pros are almost unilateral in their reaction to the update and it's far from positive.
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How do people have fun when playing online matches with random internet people?

Don't you feel pressure to impress? Don't you want to make sure you don't embarrass yourself? Why even try? What if you're the last guy alive and everyone is watching you fail?
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>>319642279
Play with 4 friends.
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>>319642279
depression is a son of a bitch
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>>319638564
Got more webms like that?
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>>319642146
No, dota scene wants the next patch as soon as possible. Go look at their d2g and you will see so many ppl bitching about how valve takes long to release it.

In CS, EVERY update so far i have seen is met in the same way.

Even that one that upgraded the models, improved ladder hitbox and gave some animations received trashtalk from the community
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all of you self proclaimed arena shooter fans are all quake 3 fags who actually think the railgun is the apex of skill
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>>319642562
A few. Only DM though.
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>>319642680
>all of you self proclaimed arena shooter fans are all quake 3 fags who actually think the railgun is the apex of skill

That's because it's due to the fact that everyone is going fucking fast as hell and it's hard to hit someone with it.

Like someone who hasn't played the game has to make that assumption.
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>>319642146

What are you talking about mate, Dota gets extremely heavy handed changes around every year or so, and everyone loves them.
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Memes aside, I love this fucking gun and it makes CS a whole lot more fun.
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>Wanted to buy a S&W R8 for shits and giggles
>CSfags with more money than me will probably start making them harder to find now
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It might be OP but it's fun as fuck in DM.
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>>319642279
Isn't that just performer's anxiety?
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>check some videos with this weapon
>no one moves while shooting
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>>319643013
no the railgun is easy as shit if you aren't brain dead, quake world is the definitive version of quake
It's a shame it's full of Russian servers and half dead Dallas ones
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>>319642929
That's just ridiculous. Even if it was same price as AWP it would be bad.
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>>319643487
They aren't used to guns that are completely broken
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>>319638430
dat Tomislav and dat Enforcer senpai
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>Makes pistols more innacurate while moving
>Introduces this in the same update

What's the point?
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>>319638430
Tomislav was GOAT while it lasted. Heavy actually became fun to play in most situations and a real force to be reckoned with.
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It's the classic Riot business model.
Release something overpowered.
Sell a bunch of skins for it.
Nerf it next week.
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>>319638430
>Tomislav before nerf

That and the spy set were my jam.
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>>319635970
but it takes all skill out of the game. now you just run and shoot people in the belly.
and it doesnt have the movement options that an arena shooter has
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I don't even play CS:GO but this shit is hilarious.
They introduce movement skill with a slow speed weapon and since everyone is used to spray and pray they all get mad.
CS:GO fans are part of some of the most butthurt fanbases around.
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CS:GO fans are the assfaggot kids of the FPS genre.

Prove me wrong.
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You guys should tag this game as 'point and click' at this point.
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>>319647097
Umaru posters are the frogposters autismos of the anime reaction images.

Prove me wrong.
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>>319647097
UMR! (HAI HAI!)
UMR! (HAI HAI!)
UMA JA NAI YO! (UMARU~)
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>>319638490
>Because people like it.
argumentum ad populum, you fucking drone faggot.
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>There are people that actually believe "movement skill" is a thing
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>played CSGO a fair bit but was shit
>stopped playing simply because I didn't enjoy it that much after a while
>keep seeing threads about this OP as all fuck revolver with cool as fuck animations
Time to load up CSGO

I fucking love revolvers.
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all this gun did was prove how retarded CS was in the first place

the game was never hard it just had shitty gunplay, now that it gets a gun that behaves like guns in almost every other shooters CS babbies are pissing themselves because now people don't have to spend 100 hours just learning how to play around the outdated mechanics

it's the same reason meleefags hate on project M. all I ever hear from CSfags is how it's a game for people with skill, how is this pistol not the epitome of skill? oh right, they're just mad because there's a gun where *gasp* you don't have to crouch and memorize some stupid autistic spray pattern because the game has the most retarded recoil system from any game

tl;dr, get good and shut the fuck up, i'm having fun with this new gun
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>I don't play CS:GO but I have a very strong opinion about this
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>>319647018
Thats right you dont play CS. The way movement works is that when you tap the opposite movement direction or change direction you are fully accurate for a split second. This gives the game depth and rewards skill. The R8 is 100% run and gun.
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>>319647739
what's wrong with run and gun?
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>>319647614
>Gun which is a 1 shot kill on body shots
>Even on leg and arm shots in close range
>Skill
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>>319647614
Hi gold nova. Im glad that you are having fun. And try to stop crouching its not the way to play.
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>>319643192
they already cost more than a chiappa rhino which at one time cost a grand.
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>>319647848
You forgot that it costs 850$, is 1 shot kill even while wearing kevlar and is also extremely accurate even while moving and jumping.
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>>319647885
>le rank meme

i like the part where you couldn't prove me wrong so you just started memeing about other shit

killing shitters like you with the new pistol makes me laugh pretty hard
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>>319647801
You don't understand what's wrong with run and gun 1 hit kills? Even scout isn't run and gun now imagine we have a semi automatic awp that doesn't require you to aim and has fast movement. Yeah...
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>>319647981
I haven't had any problems facing people with this gun my friend. Then again I'm supreme/global and know how to use an AK. 1 to the head 4 to the legs.
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>>319648027
you can buy the gun too you know

git gud, sounds to me like you're just another butthurt CS babby who can't adapt to change
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>>319648142
This is one of the few oldschool FPS games still. Take your change elsewhere. There are more casual games you can play, Valve doesn't have to make CS more accessible to you. Try Battlefield.
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>>319648262
>oldschool fps games
>came out in like 2013

xD
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>>319647981
You have no idea what you are talking about, that's why. Since even a fucking nova knows that fucking crouching and spraying is the most retarded tactic ever. You can't even fucking pull down your gun to control it since your brain is so damaged that you believe you need 100 hours to learn that.
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>>319648307 (you)
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>>319641037

you can't move like quake though, if people wanted to play quake they'd play QL

>tfw reflex is a stillborn child
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>>319648323
>getting this mad about videogames

rofl

go play 1.6 if you want to be a grandpa that can't handle change
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>>319648460
I was merely pretending
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>>319647221
Do I really need to go into in-depth detail about why people can like and play something that isn't either an arena shooter or a full-on fucking military simulator? I still explain in the next response that CS isn't a military sim like he apparently thinks it is; which makes the question of why people would play it if it isn't realistic completely fucking retarded. Then, I point out that CS (before the last patch) plays nothing like CoD and anybody who has actually played both games would agree. Saying that people play something because they like it isn't a fallacy, especially when you go on to explain that it's entirely different from the other things somebody says they should just play instead.

If you wanted to be a fucking faggot and point out fallacies that aren't actually there, then how about argumentum ad logicam or argumentum ad hominem, you autistic retard.
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>>319648595
call china

they want their wall back
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>>319647614
Ah yes here we have the stereotypical weeb who only plays animu games and bashes on dedicated CS players as a defense mechanism. I had a silver elite friend like this. He was fat, had a 15$ haircut and was into loli rape doujins.
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>>319648807
>dedicated CS players
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Honestly I dislike CS and prefer Quake and UT but the r8 is ridiculous.
You can't have a weapon this accurate in a game where dodging doesn't exist, and its damage output is enormous.
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>>319647097
I'd say the esports faggots are, but I don't think that's CS' fault.
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>>319641878
>The feedback is mostly from people who play ranked
There is only one pro that has said anything good about this update and he's a faggot who praises every update. Even then, he didn't say anything about the update itself but just that he's happy they are changing things. Literally every single other pro has said it's fucking horrible, they've said the devs must be high, they've joked about retiring, they've claimed that Valve is going to turn CS into a crappy CoD clone, they've all but called the devs retards, they've agreed to not use the R8 in pro matches, they've agreed to not use it in pro pugs, and they literally thought the devs were fucking joking when they brought it up while dreading when their other horrible ideas get put in. The feedback from not just people who are shit at the game, but at almost every level of the community that cares enough to go online and talk about it, is almost unanimous hatred of the update and lack of faith in Valve.

>>319642031
>>319642632
That's because Valve has very little idea what it's doing, literally outright ignores everything the community (including pros) tell them, and almost every update fucks something up unintentionally while fucking up something intentionally. The hitbox update was praised and was one of the few updates that didn't screw with something, but even it introduced a fair few bugs and killed a bunch of people's FPS. I believe it also caused a lot of issues with community servers.

There are many basic improvements that could be made to the game, suggestions that the community has outlined time and time again, that are ignored in favor of trying to force more RNG and the meta that Valve wants rather than a meta that the playerbase actually enjoys. Also, just because one game can benefit from a constantly shifting meta and has a playerbase that enjoys it, doesn't mean that another game benefits from it or that it's playerbase is wrong for not wanting it to change.
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>>319637415
>started playing CS in 2015
>Source
>1.6
>GO
>They're all shit
>People rack over thousands of hours in this pure spray and pray fuckfest
>For all those years people pushed me to play this game because it was the best shooter out there

wew
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Make the price $2000 and maybe it'll be somewhat balanced.
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>>319638430
>All those heavies ninja-ing out of a corner with the tomislav deployed

Heavies outsmarting everyone in terms of both speed and firepower, nothing could compare, not even a kritz'd scattergun.

Truly it was dark times, and I loved it.
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>>319647097
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT THING
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>>319647614
I agree in most part your post exept when you defend that unbalanced gun... But hey, does CSGO had any balance to begin with? most of the guns are underpowered shit nobody uses.
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>>319651252
sorry 4 the shitty grammar 2l82sleep.
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>CS:GO subreddit is literally burning down with EVERYONE shitting on Valve for being out of touch with the fanbase
>Redditors are even now saying CS:S is better in some ways
>Apparently even Notch thinks the r8 is dumb

How entitled can they get?
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>>319646847
Rustle is such an overrated artist i have no idea why he's so popular.
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>>319635424
Best thing they could have done for CSGO. It's the most beautiful fix to the AWP problem that anyone could imagine - just make the cancerous piece of shit obsolete.
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