If someone gets ridden by a jockey why don't they just sit down?
You can't argue with video game logic.
Just take a lesson from Todd.
>>319628056
>If somebody is trying to kill me the best option is to stay completely still.
>jockey starts riding me
>sit down
>end up getting fucked by every other zombie
>>319628056
Look at his fucking hands.
>>319628056
How the fuck does he control your walking movement anyway does he just pull a game of deadly peekaboo so you cant see?
>>319628056
>gets jumped on by a jockey
>not shouting 'oh yeah' like macho man randy savage and slamming the little fucker into the ground
shiggywiggles
>>319628056
Why doesn't the Jockey face fuck his victims?
That way their noises will be muffled.
How is his tongue so long It's several times his height and really thick
>>319628454
>jockey starts riding me
>walks me into a crowd of zombies, far away from my teammates
>>319628680
it's actually itsdick
>>319628680
Sounds like you're describing my dick
>>319628680
wasn't it implied it was his intestines
>>319628570
Well there is that one mod that replaces all infected sounds with randy savage quotes.
If his vomit attracts the infected why isn't he being constantly attacked because he has several open wounds the smell would leak out
>>319629172
Is that really the boomer model? I dont remember it being so low quality
>>319628056
>hunter jumps on you
>you magically lose the ability to use your hands
>he's not even pinning you down because he's clawing at you
>you can't just shoot him while he's on you
>>319629172
Because his open wounds are not leaking his pheromones (or chemoattractants, whatever that shit is) or leading in his vomit-sack.
>>319629321
Bottom corner has free 3d models so I think it's some shitty fan one
>>319629371
Yeah good luck shooting a fucking psycho who tickles, stabs and rips you apart with several razors while sitting on your chest.
You'll be terrified, in major pain and your instincts will force you to cover your face/eyes.
It's not that you physically unable to do it, it's more about being scared shitless.
how can spitter have spit if it burns??? nice plot hole valve -_-
>>319629371
>Actually shooting at your own head
I don't think zombie apocalypse is for you, anon.
>>319628581
There's SFM animation with exactly that
>>319629626
You'd think they'd be over it after having it happen tot hem so much.
>>319628537
It's called physics. If your center of mass shifts you either have to adjust yourself or you will fall down.
>>319628876
It's neither it's a different rapidly regenerating growth altogether.
This thread is exactly what I needed, for I gotta be up in a few hours.
Why doesn't the Hunter just get a gun and shoot the survivors?
>>319629718
Primal instincts override conscious mind.
>>319629626
>tickles
>>319630275
Because his fingers are too sharp too wield guns.
>>319630291
What he said.
>>319628487
CRYSTALS
>>319630275
>be hunter
>use super jumping capabilities to jump on buildings
>snipe everyone
or
>take shotgun
>jump over people and shoot their heads off
>>319630394
I'd go with having a fucked up cerebellum. It doesn't affect rough moves, like walking and jumping, but screws up fine and small movements needed to operate a gun (think about trying to pick a lock without fingers.)
>>319630578
Man, that's a pretty interesting thought.
>>319629704
He's talking about the HUNTER, which lies on your chest, not the Jockey
>>319629672
Your stomach has acid in it, right? HCl, but your inside are kind of have a layer of mucus that protects them. Same goes for spitter, maybe much more mucus because shit burns.
>>319629672
The spitters lower jaw is melted off isn't it?
>>319628680
An example would be a frog or chameleon, pretty much the same. I don't really know how their tongues work, but that's how I explain smoker tongue length.
I'm amazed that people remain on their feet when a jockey is riding them.
Play game
Get kicked by free weekend Brazilian children and Weed lmao teenagers
>>319631657
> not playing with your buddy who will press f2 so you don't get kicked
>>319631597
That's something I'm still trying to find an explanation. I don't want to stick with "mind control". There's gotta be something else.
>>319631597
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgHNtzxO0y8
>>319632057
That tripfag has been here longer than you buddy.
>>319630578
>implying a fucked up cerebellum wouldn't impede walking and running
You mean primary motor cortex, dingus
>>319632235
Correct, but it don't change anything.
>>319630160
>Pyro witnesses the murder of Robert Hammond.png
>>319629626
>tickles
fuck, made me laugh
>>319632057
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJtPjnryPjo
>>319630275
Because besides witch infected don't seem to posses higher brain function to be able to use tools.
Left4Dead2 was Valve's last good game.
Excluding multiplayer of course unless you're playing with friends.
>>319628056
Imagine yourself in such a situation. Obviously the best decision would be to back-flop the motherfucker, then spin to the side while it recoils, and shoot. But in the heat of the moment you might not be thinking of the situation that clearly, you would probably just be thinking:
>oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck what the fuck is on my back what the fuck somebody help shoot no hit it with a bat no give me pills"
>>319632652
I dunno, Portal 2 was pretty good desu senpai
>>319632652
Versus is the main meat of the game. What are you smoking.
>>319632652
I liked L4D1 a lot more than 2.
>>319632270
not as much as it would fuck up fine movements. Balance-yeah, difficulties granted. Posture-sure, some problems.
Trying to fit keys in a keyhole-absolutely impossible.
>>319632713
Versus has too many people desperately trying to win despite having no "level" or rank system.
There's nothing wrong with being competitive, but I've seen people get kicked over the most stupid shit such as a guy getting votekicked for healing someone else or messing up a Jockey/Smoker group isolation attack. Furthermore, you got those people who just quit the game when they're losing, leaving you with with bots and one or two people on the opposing team. Versus is fun, but the people you have to play with is just not fun.
Campaign and survival are okay though.
>>319632235
>taking off trip to defend yourself
red pls
faggot
>>319629557
Looks like the in-game model to me.
>>319632713
realism versus. Normal versus is unfun. Seeing your teammates through walls makes it too damn easy.
>>319633293
Realism Versus falls in the Versus category. You're right realism versus is superior to vanilla but I would rather play promod/confogl. However playing L4D2 for campaign is silly.
>>319633227
Same people exist in all communities only difference is that L4D is so team dependant and has lower player count that it's more noticeable.
i like to think the jockey works like one of these to get you moving
>>319633227
Sometimes bots are better than people. They are able to shoot through teammates, for example.
If you have a bot as infected-see it as captain. It attacks-you attack and support it.
>>319629172
Body Odor is caused by bacteria living on our skin breaking down our sweat, maybe something similar happens with the boomer bile?
>>319629672
5 - 10% of Gastric Acid is Hydrochloric Acid, the only reason it's not burning a hole through your body is because of a mucus lining in your stomach. Why do you think girls with bulimia have fucked up teeth?
>>319633865
Too many frosted flakes?
>>319633227
Versus somehow has one of the most cancerous multiplayer community when it was active. I've played at least 100 hours of it and outside of premades of 7 friends, someone almost always left after 1 map. Like out of all that time, there's less than 10 times where a player just didn't up and leave because they get beat. I think it's a side effect of a shitty scoring system, especially in l4d1, and the fact that the game itself encourages you to rush as quickly as possible in order to shorten the amount of infected shittery. So you have faggots running a map and acting like they just did an actual marathon. Survivors were also way too easy and 80% of infected strategies involves ledges. Because organizing a 4 man stun when the other group is competent and rushing is not going to happen in a pub.
>>319633619
Problem is they always heal way to early and can get caught on the entrance to saferoom. Can's say how many times I've had a bot die cause they couldn't get in
>>319633989
Bot starts healing you-switch to medkit (can't remember if works with pills), it stops. Continue running.
Bot hanging around saferoom-walk to the furthest point of it, it should follow.
>>319633928
I have over 3k in the game half of them are in public versus. I somehow rarely have such problems. Regular versus is about infected damage since survivors will always reach the saferoom anyway.
>>319634102
I was more referring to them healing themselves as normally I'm pretty fine but the bots just end up taking heaps of chip damage
Double capches now? Had to type out a number and select street signs
Anybody wanna get a game going?
>>319634304
I would join but don't except good ping from an Aussie
>>319634282
well, they could be made into perfect killing machines, sniping infected through walls seconds after they spawn, but that would make things very unfair, right? They are made shitty on intent.
>>319634364
I suck at this game despite having 1.3k hours.
>>319634141
Maybe its because I played it pretty late in its cycle. I dunno, I feel like Versus could have been greatly improved if there were goal posts around the map that granted score multipliers. And there would be clear locations where if you split up to get all the score multipliers, you'd be stuck in that area for way too long so you either had to split up and go big or just forget it and hope the other team doesn't beat your score. Just make more use of the map. Zombies was not fun at all other than a Tank, and Tank half the time is about pussyfooting around and rock-sniping. You spawn, you get a survivor off a ledge, great but then you instantly die. A 4-man disable is a great feeling but those moments are just so far between each other with random monster spawns and the nature of pubs. Getting Jockey on any map without a drop is like whatever.
>>319634304
nigga i'm startin' up right now for realism
>>319634416
Never said they needed to be able to see though wars but healing when they have plenty of health and wasting a whole kit especially playing on harder difficulties is a huge waste
>>319634304
Lets get a room goin'
>>319634364
>>319634494
>>319634553
Alright, sounds like we got a team going.
We doing realism, campaign, or versus?
Hosting Realism Expert! Hotel!
>>319634896
iron man is objectively superior
>>319634896
Realism or versus depending on how many we got
>>319629626
>tickles
>>319634896
I'm hosting publicly now for realism campaign on expert. Hotel as I said. Is this okay?
>>319634917
Can't see it does Valve actually server lock lfd2 to stop most of the Russians and stuff?
Left 4 Dead was a really good game desu.
Barely played 2 though.
>>319635125
Yeah.
>>319630369
>>319632443
>>319635116
Tickling is no joke. Tickle torture was used by the Nazi's on the Jews. I'm not even kidding.
>>319634917
>>319635125
Not seeing anything except for one for The Sacrifice.
>>319635279
Source? I just tried looking it up.
>>319635279
Being tickled to death would suck honestly
Slowly feel yourself run out of breath. Piss or shit yourself. Getting all touched up would feel really scary and personal. Laughing at your own death unable to stop it
>>319635213
>>319635205
>>319635176
>>319635101
Names? Mine's Rufio
>>319635176
There was always a lobby region system based on content server selected in the steam options.
>>319635445
Alberto Barbosa
>>319635403
I wouldn't worry about that, you black out for a short period before waking up again if you're tickled too much.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5o3PYcJoM
>>319635445
Intrepidus Rex
>>319635524
>Alberto Barbosa
t. Alberto Barbosa
>>319628056
It tickles your ribs, it's impossible not to sprint
>>319635390
>Heinz Heger, a man persecuted in the Flossenbürg concentration camp during World War II, witnessed Nazi prison guards perform tickle torture on a fellow inmate, followed by various other tortures which resulted in his death. He describes this incident in his book The Men With The Pink Triangle: "The first game that the SS sergeant and his men played was to tickle their victim with goose feathers, on the soles of his feet, between his legs, in the armpits, and on other parts of his naked body. At first the prisoner forced himself to keep silent, while his eyes twitched in fear and torment from one SS man to the other. Then he could not restrain himself and finally he broke out in a high-pitched laughter that very soon turned into a cry of pain, while the tears ran down his face, and his body twisted against his chains. After this tickling torture, they let the lad hang there for a little, while a flood of tears ran down his cheeks and he cried and sobbed uncontrollably."
>>319632427
noice
>>319635654
And then people say that Nazis aren't homosexual deviants
>>319635569
I'm just finding a guy that plays a lot of historically themed games.
>>319633258
It may be the L4D1 model.
L4D2's model is definitely more high quality than that
>>319635979
>l4d2
>anything but a quick reskin with as much reuse as possible
>>319635551
>>319635524
I sent an invite I believe
Is the L4D2 server still going on? I might hop on, haven't played in a long time.
>>319629321
It's the L4D1 model.
L4D1 had much simpler designs and slightly cartoonish coloring compared to L4D2's full on realism.
Plus ripped models without any lighting or other effects on a plain background really expose every flaw and imperfection. It's hard as hell to find something that still looks good in a model viewer
>>319636105
I liked the B grade horror feel
And the night maps. I can actually remember feeling slightly spooked in some of those dark buildings on no mercy
>>319632652
I consider it to be one of their first big fuckups personally. I really think they wanted to test the waters and see if they could get away with yearly releases of games.
The game itself is fine I guess but overall I prefer L4D1
>>319636229
Still going, only two people so far.
>>319636229
We're with 2 now, "Rufio Diserpico" add me and I'll invite you guys
>>319636406
Send invite to CrunchyFinn
>>319632235
Fuck off back to reddi faggot
The game is great until everyone learns the maps and how to play. COUNTLESS threads on their own forum give them exact details on what needs to be done to fix the game.
Years later, I'd still come back if they fixed it.
When a giant spider drops on you, why don't you just stay still?
>>319629009
Holy shit. I actually have this mod installed right now.
>"OH YEAH!"
>"THA WORLD'S GREATEST!!!"
>>319628056
I just want to know if everyone is still mad about l4d2. It should have been a dlc at best.
>>319632943
I still play L4D1.
>>319636280
l4d1 could be pretty spoopy
2 was more silly
>>319633227
Some dickhead vote-kicked me because I didn't attack as a Smoker right when he wanted me to, even though I had just incapacitated a survivor and had to recharge. I don't often get mad when playing L4D but that was one time when my blood boiled.
>>319628056
>2008
>get dog named tank
>december
>get l4d for xmas
>played the shit out of it
>would say "get out of her tank"
>people would freak out thinking a tank was coming
Also was I the only person who liked playing as survivors more than infected? All you do as infected is group up and then attack everyone at once, besides that one part in No Mercy where you could melee the dumpster on top of the man-hole and nobody could get out that was great as shit.
>>319635445
Scarred Phase
>>319637717
My only memories of L4D are that dumpster trick and when you were on top of the hospital, sometimes the Tanks would climb through a window but there was no animation for it so they would just scrunch up and slowly slide through it
>>319634304
What is this from?
Tell me Boomerang is in a new ongoing.
>>319638138
Time Travel arc from Parker's run on Thunderbolts, so right before it was retitled Dark Avengers.
>>319638495
Aw bollocks.
I've been meaning to get to Thunderbolts anyway though, cheers.
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>>319636867
>infinite shoving
>running faster than z's
>unstoppable
>no global stamina that would make sense
>instead limit to a few shoves at a time
>z hits slow you to a crawl instead of just a little
>tussling with even a small horde becomes disproportionately difficult
>doesn't solve the overall problem
>bunch up in a corner clipping through each other
>singularity of melee and gunfire
>impossible to break up
>clipping was originally because people would push each other off the roof of NM1 start
>small wall was added to prevent this
>pushing is still possible
>literally no reason for clipping to exist
>without clipping hunters staggering, smokers pulling and boomers blinding would make bunching up a very bad idea
>instead release a full priced sequel that shifts the focus from surviving difficult events to just running fast
>instead add redundant infected to do what the others should be able to
>fuck up the score system so that actually surviving doesn't matter
>game is all about random shit happening that fuck you up
>try to make it "balanced" because muh esports
>versus becomes predictable instead of chaotic fun
>second team always wins because they know whats coming
>take 3 months to release a patch that literally consists of tweaking a variable and adding a few boxes to one level
why is valve so shit? how can one developer be so fucking incompetent?
>>319636105
And yet it had more content on release than the original.
>>319633574
MAN-THING
DIE DIE
>>319638751
>>instead add redundant infected to do what the others should be able to
False. New infected have their utilities.
>>fuck up the score system so that actually surviving doesn't matter
It does matter, using medkits is what doesn't matter. No one dies anyway.
>>game is all about random shit happening that fuck you up
All randomness is at the minimum in versus.
>>try to make it "balanced" because muh esports
Nothing about L4D2 is balanced. No one even tried balancing. What the fuck are you talking about have you even played the game?
>>versus becomes predictable instead of chaotic fun
You bitch about randomness and then want randomness.
>>second team always wins because they know whats coming
Going second barely gives any advantage. Other than the tank info. Witch info is irrelevant.
>>319640678
>being retarded
the only utility that the spitter has is breaking up clustered survivors, but that is the point of the hunter staggering, boomer staggering and blinding, and smoker stealing stragglers away forcing the others to run out to save them, the problem is this doesn't work because you can clip through each other and create the melee singularity
charger is overly powerful at stealing people away, something the smoker already should do
jockey is interesting I guess but ultimately it's just another smoker
I am not bitching about randomness, I am saying they tried to balance versus by making it not random, which as you say isn't balanced at all, but still makes the game less fun
did you play the first one? at release there was no balance in versus, everything was completely random for both teams, and it was hilarious
in l4d2 you can die right in front of the saferoom and get almost full points, surviving doesn't matter only how far you get, this again encourages just running without a care
>>319640493
HOLY
SIGMAR
BLESS THIS RAVAGED BODY
>>319641143
oh and don't get me started on melee weapons, because the solution to making hordes too difficult to deal with using normal melee is to make an even more powerful melee that turns it into easymode
it may be fun but it takes away from the skill required to navigate a horde of zombies
>>319637717
I think this is the most American greentext i have ever read
Yo, spot just opened up in the L4D2 lobby, anybody interested?
>>319641204
RAT DICK
RAT DICK
RAT DICK
>>319629172
Is the Boomer a follower of Nurgle?
>>319629172
just reminded me of the gaben boomer mod
>>319638570
On /co/ someone's been storytiming it over the last few days.
>>319642693
>>319642714
Yeah, just gotta go to the archive and ctrl+f "JSA"
Free spot we're doing Realism Advanced and only need one more person to get playing
>>319642775
Scratch that, look for "Parkerbolts" instead.
>>319643201
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>>319641143
The purpose of spitter area denial not breaking up. Smoker and jockey have different survivor movement vectors. While they do a similar action they ultimately have different utilities. If smoker had the capabilities of charger (mainly deathcharging) it would be overpowered.
>I am not bitching about randomness, I am saying they tried to balance versus by making it not random, which as you say isn't balanced at all, but still makes the game less fun
>did you play the first one? at release there was no balance in versus, everything was completely random for both teams, and it was hilarious
That's a bad design choice. This is why you don't make games.
>in l4d2 you can die right in front of the saferoom and get almost full points, surviving doesn't matter only how far you get, this again encourages just running without a care
Except the part where every single match with competent players will always end up with a tie breaker. True L4D2 scoring system is shit, but NOT for the reason you specified.
>oh and don't get me started on melee weapons, because the solution to making hordes too difficult to deal with using normal melee is to make an even more powerful melee that turns it into easymode
>it may be fun but it takes away from the skill required to navigate a horde of zombies
Hordes are not difficult to deal with without melee. Sure it's quicker but it doesn't take any skill. What takes skill is mastering melee.
People who select local server should be shot.
>>319645007
Hey butt thumper, I'm not gonna pick a dedicated server when everyone I'm with is on my network.
>>319645267
Then you put your game to private, retard.
>>319645456
>My le goal posts!
>>319637310
yes, fuck Valve.
>play l4d1
>infected
>team is comprised of 3 hunters and 1 smoker
>survivors go to a chokepoint
Shit like this is why l4d1 was incredibly fun, organised teams just wipe the floor with pubs.
Didn't really like playing infected with l4d2 so I didn't play it for very long.
>>319643420
they literally say thats exactly the reason for designing the spitter in the commentary
>>319645575
I really hope you're trolling me...
>>319643420
>mastering mashing button to win
too retarded to live
>>319633913
Nah, puke rots away your teeth.
>>319646058
>thinking you can destroy tank rocks by mashing a button
End yourself.
>>319645986
What it's used for and what it's intended for are different things.
Why don't the survivors always aim for the dick? It's obvious that the infected still feel pain and 9/10 of them are male
If a jockey jumped on me I'd just rip his balls off tbqhwyf
>>319646154
stop wasting oxygen please
>>319645995
>You should never ever use local server!
>N-no, I m-meant online only, h-honest!
>>319646256
Why do people keep saying this anyway
Technically we breathe only 20 ish percent oxygen and 80% nitrogen.
Is the director ai actually some kind of special unique ai or is it valve's code speech for saying 'we merely programmed the zombies to run at the player'?
>>319628876
Nope. It's lung cancer cells forming a tentacle
>>319646515
Yeah but the nitrogen you breathe out again. Because it's recycled so thus therefore not wasted.
>>319646445
OK, anon, let's go slow, think, why do you think I am pissed about the people who select local server in the first place? How would I be pissed about someone playing offline which would be impossible for me to even know about.
Do you get when I hit quickplay to put me in some game immediately, if the retard lobby leader put his game on local server then MY game and HIS game and EVERYONE else in the game will become extremely laggy.
You do understand that, right?
L4D3
>health items less abundant
>health cabinets placed further away from main path
>infected enter ghost mode and prep for spawn as soon as they die
>weapons are no longer tier-based, just utility based
>more objectives like scavenge/gnome so teamwork is highlighted and infected can get attacks in easier
>smoker tongue stronger
>jockey disables survivor's outline and survivor's screen goes black
>hunter pounces have momentum and can push people off ledges
>>319647149
Is this a list of changes you don't want them to see?
Here's what L4D3 actually needs.
>A cast of likable characters.
>Versus takes place on Advanced rather than Normal so CI are actually relevant.
done
>>319647149
>L4D3
set it in alaska, have frozen lakes you can slip and fall through, deep snow that slows you down, blizzards that blind you, avalanches and large piles of snow you can cause to drop
it'll be really comfy
>>319646256
Right back at you buddy.
because fuck you that's why
>>319647887
Maybe for one map, but do you really want the same gimmicks and atmosphere for all 5 campaigns?
Europe would have the most variety and offer a good progression.
>Mediterranean
>Paris
>London
>Germany
>Russia
>>319645876
>contantly die as infected to make sure the infected team had 4 hunters
>synchronized leap into each of the survivors
Poor bastards only managed to survive 10 seconds after opening the safehouse, shame they patched the exploit eventually
>>319628680
Because its not his tongue, its coming from the super tumor in his lungs which is why you can hear him choking on it oftenly.
So why does everyone have such bad multiplayer experiences? The worst I've ever had was maybe the occasional retard who team killed then left
>mfw having a blast on normal, spraying like a moron with no regards for friendly fire
>>319648746
snow has the most variety in what you can do with the environment, and expecting fully featured and realized interactive terrain for 4-5 different biomes is unrealistic
How the fuck does the tank pick up rubble with those stubby ass fingers, they're almost as bad as the boomers
>>319648791
>oftenly
Oh my god what the fuck is this.
>not playing vermintide
rats off to ya
>>319649116
Retard strength.
>>319648805
Because they're playing with random strangers instead of close buddies
>>319628056
you cant do anything because the jockey has the high ground
>>319651128
>1,206 In-Game
>>319651128
They're both pretty dead regardless, l4d2 because it's old, vermintide because of a shitty items system and bad optimisation.
I used to get baked and play through the maps in multiplayer over and over
Anyone here want to get together and play some custom maps? Been through the campaigns so many times that even partying up wouldn't do much for me
>>319652487
I hate mountains is some of the best level design I've ever seen
Since HL3 is pretty much dead, what are the chances of L4D3?
>>319652804
Downloading it now. How many acts is it anon?
>>319653473
can't remember, 4 or 5 I think
>>319652804
Testing this out at the moment, I'm stuck in that large house at the start of chapter two. I'm supposed to answer a call somewhere but I have no idea where
>>319628487
I wonder what they would feel like inside me
>>319652940
We'll see the next Valve games when people stop giving them truckloads of money for selling skins. It'll either be the golden age of Valve or the most disappointing shit show of all time.
>>319655694
the golden age of valve ended in 2000
>>319632235
> defending tripfags
