>Black Ops 2
>Mass Effect 2
>Dead Space 2
>Sly 2
>Modern Warfare 2
>Jak 2
>Resistance 2
>Battlefield BC2
How come so many game series with 3 or more games have the second one as the best but the next ones complete shit? Also can Dead Space be revived?
Mass Effect 2 was not the best Mass Effect. It was a worse RPG than 1, a worse shooter than 3 and is responsible for all of the insane story derailments people incorrectly peg on 3.
Black Ops 3 campaign is better than 1 and 2 in every aspect
>that terrible fucking taste
Because you're a casual who buys into "broader audience" bullshit.
>>319626271
The campaign was a complete shitshow and a cobbled together mess
>>319625950
>1 was a good RPG
1's my favorite of the trilogy, but this is complete and utter laughable bullshit.
>>319626584
At least it was an RPG.
>>319625646
Well OP, youre right about Dead Space 2
>Dead space 2
>Better than the first Dead Space
I whole heartedly disagree.
>>319626823
>Better voice acting
>Better story
>Better guns
>Better atmosphere
>Better mechanics
It literally improves on everything
Because different unfortunate things happen to different games unfortunately. Also, other than ME3 shitty ending, it was fun. However that ending really did fucking suck. Also Jak 3 was awesome. It least from what I remember from my childhood. Had more fun and for longer with it than Jak 2.
>>319627065
The only thing wrong with 2 is Ellie and Isaac taking his helmet off for no reason so often.
>>319627170
Only thing Jak 3 did better than Jak 2 was Light Jak and more guns. Thats it.
> Jak 2
> Resistance 2
> Best
Jak is debatable, 2 is better than 3 (and only people who couldn't beat 2 because it was too hard will disagree), but calling it the best is a stretch because 1 is so different. As a personal choice, sure, but you'll never reach a unanimous agreement. So it can be used in a 2>1>3 is always the case argument.
Resistance 2 on the other hand is objectively the worst of the series. It took away everything that made Fall of Man unique Amoung a generation of Halo and Cod clones and became one of them. Multiplayer was amazing though.
Apart from those two, OP is right.
> Sly 2 is incredible, 3 was over ambitious and had WAAAY too much non-Sly crap.
> Killzone 2 still one of the best console shooters ever made. 3 ruins tone of series and campaign is a complete mess. Multiplayer was fine though.
> Uncharted 2 is perfect in what it set out to do. Story is paced expertly, varied levels that are also cohesive, coherent and make sense why you were there. Keeps upping the ante and the last level is the best one. Multiplayer an afterthought but is unironically perfect. Then 3 did none of what I just said.
> Crash 2 improves controls and expands level design to have hidden paths, more collectables and great level design (although 1 beats it in some areas), is an amazing platformer. Crash 3 is litterally 50% non platforming levels.
> Ratchet and Clank 2 improves over the first in every imaginable way (except arguably story). 3 makes no real improvements, level design goes to shit, sense of wonder and mystery gone because you are following orders. Game is casualise to be a shooter with light platforming rather than the more even ratio of 2, puzzles replaced with a Space Invaders rippoff because kids can't into think. 3 had better villian and final boss though.
There's loads more that follow the same pattern (Spyro, God of War etc...), and it seems to be a problem that plagues PlayStation exclusives.
>>319626271
kill yourself. had no tie ins with the story, made fuck all for sense, didn't care for dick about the characters, and the robots felt like I was playing terminator. Bo3 was good, but don't give it any more credit than it deserves
>>319627176
He took his helmet off to talk to people face to face (also to give the character more expression) I can only think of 2 times he shouldnt have, and thats when someone is literally trying to stab him in the face
>>319627170
> More fun and longer than Jak 2
How?
Jak 2 is a 12+ hour game, Jak is 6 hours.
>>319627414
OP here. Fucking THANK YOU. Ratchet and Clank 2 was almost god tier. Everyone likes to suck 3's dick. 2 had better characters, better guns, better level design and a better arena mode, and the BEST R.Y.N.O. Only thing 3 did better than 2 was story and villain. (2's cutscenes were better imo). 3 was a chore for me to play through. Too much military esque bullshit
>bad company 2
>not bf2
Kek
>>319625646
>sly 2
>jak 2
GTFO anon if you actually believe this shit. Also, Dead Space is dead and Dead Space 3 was the nail on the coffin. If the game had come out around this time it might have been different, but when it came out almost every series was trying to gears of war their games.
>>319629121
>Not liking Sly 2
Literally wat?
>>319629196
>didn't read OPs post
He was saying that the second games are the best and the next games are shit. Which is completely bullshit because while the second games might have been great the third game in both series was fucking awesome.
>>319629364
Sly 3 was an overambitious mess. But I disagree with OP on Jak. Jak 3 was the best
>>319629517
Regardless of what you thought of sly 3, it was in no way a shit game. Alto Bass Alto Alto.
>>319625646
I won't waste time arguing what of those are better/worse than their originals however I will answer why it's easier for #2 to be better while #3 tends to kill series
1 to 2 improves the series both in mechanics and usually story depth
3 runs into the issue that it can't improve beyond what was offered so you get more of the same or worse, and usually they don't plan game stories out past the game being made in that moment so narratives tend to degrade
You then have issues that many a time the 3rd one is made by a different team.
I would pose ratchet and clank as a exception to the rule because I can't remember but the one where you can duel wield and fight in the arena was my favorite and I will legit fist fight anyone who says other wise
Also I find captain quark to be quite entertaining
>>319626584
RPGs are my favorite genre and even then ME 2 is not only my favorite in the trilogy but it's also my 2nd favorite game of all time. Yes 1 is better as an RPG, and 3 is better gameplay wise but 2 is when I really fell in love with the series. Honestly I was never the person who cared about the star wars/stat trek/lotr/Harry Potter worlds, but mass effect hands down is my favorite fictional universe in any form of media.
>>319630143
One of my main gripes with 3 is Quark. They spent all of 1 and 2 making him easy to hate, then they basically said "fuck it" in 3. I was so hoping for some sweet revenge after all the bullshit Quark put them through in 1 and 2, and they didnt deliver
>>319630143
That was the worst one. Ratchet and Clank 2 was the best one.
>>319629832
You wana talk about shit? Penelope in Sly 4.
Dead Space 1 is undoubtedly the best in the series, 2 was okay and 3 was laughable. If you liked 2 more you didn't understand what made the first one great. You're right the rest of the games on the list though. Well, none of the BO were good.
>>319629832
Well no, it wasnt shit. But it was the worst in the series.
>>319625646
To be fair, Mass Effect 1 and 2 were equally good imo, number 2 went for a more streamlined yet combat orientated game with more set pieces and they succeeded, ME1 went for a more dramatic Sci Fi space opera with more of a focus on RPGs.
Both games were GOAT in their own right
>>319630682
Dead Space 1 tried too hard for my taste. Yea it was a thrill, but there was no moderation. I got kinda tired of it. Dead Space 2, however, mixed it up a bit. Some action, some scares, some puzzles and even a throwback to the first Dead Space which fluffed up the atmosphere even more. Tack on better guns, better level design, better models, voice acting, and story. Overall Dead Space 2 had less scares than 1, but made up for it in everything else. Easy 10/10
>>319625646
>blops 3
>bad
Hell, id even argue for DS3. It had some amazing lighting and while not everything worked out as good as it could, the way they handled co-op with one person seeing shit the other couldnt and those times where you could do nothing while the other was fighting tons of shit off was great. I wouldnt say DS3 was better than 2, but they tried something and had some great ideas that if given DS4, might have bloomed nicely. I will never fault a studio for trying something new if its a reasonable extension of where it came from. And this falls in that category.
>>319625646
There was no bad company 3
>>319630510
But giant robots and dual wielding and that really cool suit
Give up buddy because I'm running out of stuff to remember
>>319631015
Dead Space 3 tried to be Gears of War and failed miserably. The gun crafting was very nice, but the universal ammo destroyed the survival aspect. The Co-op was okay, but broke atmosphere (or lack there of). Story was complete shit. Half of it wasnt even in fucking space. And they ruined Ellie and Issac, not to mention even their fucking models are messed up. Isaacs jaw is too far to one side. Looks like a downsy retard. Dont even get me started on the Microtransactions
I blame EA for Dead Space 3 being a complete fuck up. EA has a habit of destroying once great series
>>319630958
I liked 2 but honestly I think Dead Space 1 should have been a contained game without a sequel. The story was simple but likeable, it was a fun and at time difficult ride till the end. I guess I just the style of the game. I also enjoyed beating it over with only the plasmacutter for the Achiev.
Bioshock 2 was the worst one?
>>319631443
Surely they have a right to destroy what they make?
>>319631015
As for Blops 3, my biggest complaints with it is that the campaign makes no fucking sense and is completely disconnected with past games. There is just too much gimmicky shit. Doesnt flow well at all. Not like Advanced Warfare that managed to do it pretty well.
Another complaint I have with it is the guns. Literally what the fuck was Treyarch thinking? They are all overengineered and sound like toys. Drives me nuts when I use a heavy LMG and it sounds like a washer is on the barrel and jingles every time I fire it. A high pitched metal on metal sound. Yea they can kill people pretty fast though and I know the gun sounds is kinda small, but its part of what gets me attached to a gun. Makes it satisfying. NONE of them in this game has that. I almost want to go back to Blops 2 to use my good old Mk. 48 and Tac-45.
Specialists are meh. Some of them suck like the Kinetic Armor and Ripper. But others are OP like the Scythe and Annihilator
To me, Blops 3 is worse in every way to god tier Blops 2
>>319625646
well in DS3 earth got nommed by the moon and everyone else got killed by space Muslims, so any rational person would say no, but I'm sure visceral will find a way to pull another 3 games out of their ass.
>>319625646
They get a bigger budget, team and more time to work on the second game because of how well the first did, then all three of these things get cut back for the third game because they always spend too much money and go over deadline on the second.
Your typical dev cycle is also 3-5 years, so when we finally get to the third game up to a decade may have passed, so transitioning to a new engine and retraining all your staff, or building one in-house also eats up a lot of the budget even if game 2 met all its project milestones.
