MEAN GREENS SOUNDTRACK
https://youtu.be/Vr8wOT28vHI
The game may have ended up lackluster, but the soundtrack is fucking amazing. Now I have something to do while I wait for this game to hopefully get better.
>>319616058
I mostly play the game to listen to the soundtrack.
>>319616058
what do you mean?
The game is bad?
I shouldn't buy it?
>>319616058
Thank you Anon, who ever composed this fucking games OST needs to do more. Its fucking Fantastic.
>>319616925
Buy it if you want to try it out. The game isn't wholly bad, it's just suffering from a lot of little problems with balance and shit.
If the developers do something about it and the game doesn't die, I'd recommend it then.
>>319617064
He apparently did Ori and the Blind Forest, ARK, and some Minecraft thing according to the bandcamp. I honestly just dropped $5 on the OST
>>319617221
Really? That explains a lot, Ori had a great soundtrack as well, kind of strange that he'd do this though considering how vastly different they are.
I really do hope this game gets a cult following, I loved this shit as a kid.
>>319617439
The game is made by some ARK developers I think, so maybe they're friends. But yeah, I hope the game does well. I'm not playing it right now because I don't want to go over 2 hours just yet, but I am waiting to see if the developers support it before I refund.
They seem to plan to, so I hope everything works out and this game ends up being a success. There's enough clever ideas and effort behind it that it pains me to see it bogged down by small balance and technical issues.
thanks doc
>>319617827
Happy colours.
Is this the new Army Men?
>>319616058
Thanks!
Maybe I'll dump some screens
>>319617975
Hopefully.
>>319618004
>>319616058
my bro bought this. It's fun when you actually get into a game.
I think 10 players a server tho was a little low.
>>319618082
Honestly, if this was released as early access I would trust the devs in fixing it a little more. With them making all these promised post release I had to refund it until they actually show some progress.
Its a shame because this could have been really good. The gamemodes and maps are great, along with the music and visual design. I feel like if they playtested this all these issues would have already been worked out.
>>319618302
>>319618407
>Honestly, if this was released as early access I would trust the devs in fixing it a little more.
Yeah it's funny, I general dislike Early Access but this is one of those few cases where it's actually the appropriate time to use Early Access.
>>319618410
>>319617221
Alright then.
>>319618605
I think the devs thought it would be beneficial to release a functional product on day one instead of adding another turd early access shit vault.
They forget that you still have to playtest the game with a reasonably sized test, and especially so for a multiplayer game.
>>319618407
This, basically. I'm currently sitting at 1.8 hours played and honestly can't decide if I want to refund right now or hang onto it. I love the maps and music, but the gameplay just isn't good enough. So many little issues and irksome design choices. It's a tough choice, I can't tell if the devs are actually going to put serious work into changing and supporting it in the near future or if they'll just cut and run and leave the already pretty small community to die. Part of me just wants to suck it up and enjoy what's there, yet there aren't many people playing and I've got other better shooters to play. And that $10 could go to other stuff in the upcoming sale. Fuck.
>>319618927
I was in the same spot as you and decided to refund it. On the steam page it mentions the $10 price as a introductory and holiday sale price. If it is 9.99 throughout the end of the year, and they have fixed it/made an effort to fix it I will just rebuy it. Otherwise I would rather have the money for something else on sale.
Developer said they are planning to do weekly updates and plan to add vehicles
>>319619135
They implied adding a single player campaign too yesterday. I'd take their promises with a fairly large grain of salt at the moment.
>>319616058
have the devs stated their intentions for fixing it, or is it abandonware?
would love to re-buy it if they fix the gameplay issues
>>319617221
The game will be dead though. Too many multiplayer games out. Consumers are stretched too thin.
>>319619263
Well I don't see why they would lie about it, but time will tell
>>319619374
See >>319619135
They seem to be listening.
>>319619386
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>>319616058
So they're just straight up ripping off that one army man game from ps1?
I wouldn't trust these devs to turn this around to be honest. They deleted my negative review on the Steam store page yesterday, and it was a serious, constructively critical one not a joke or insulting one.
>>319619631
more like an homage. can't really rip off a dead series
Oh fuck what do you mean lackluster, this looks awesome
And would it be easy to play with a friend or will we get kicked out after every 3 minute game or something?
can someone please just put the maps from this game into another game. they're gorgeous. I miss rats maps in CS. CS:S had a bunch of active servers for them. CS:GO doesn't have any as far as I'm aware
>>319619374
The only reason 90% of these small time games have dead servers is because steam by default locks everyone into only playing with people who chose the same fucking download region
But then games with 50,000 concurrent players like GTA don't and just throw me in with a bunch of fucking chinks and Russians
God dammit why
>>319619631
Rips it off, but doesn't do it nearly as well. It's not as fully committed to the gimmick. Killing guys with a flamethrower doesn't even melt them. No single player either, just a generic, super casual and arcadey shooter with fantastic map design and music. I would love to see the dev give it another shot though, to be fair. I think if they learn from this then it will either eventually be good or a hypothetical sequel would be.
>>319620528
You say that but if I make a Tomba game and call it Cave Boy Vs The Pigs, I'd be an asshole.
>>319620854
Do it and I won't
>>319620854
hey, as long as it's a good game I don't care
So what issues does this game actually have?
>>319620809
>fantastic map design
when you say this I feel the need to mention that the maps are great VISUALLY, but not in terms of playability. all the non-deathmatch ones almost always end in stalemate
>>319620528
Yes you can.
>>319620809
This. Until I get to smash people with a hammer or blow them to plastic bits, it's just a cash cow.
>>319621038
Can't jump and shoot
5v5
>>319621118
Green almost never wins the kitchen counter map.
>>319620643
Just party up, you'll be fine.
I recommend buying it and trying for yourself, if you enjoy it than that's great if not who cares. With refunds now you can do that.
>>319620805
I bought Secret Ponchos and all the playerbase burnt itself out in Early Access. I was really dissapointed. People just aren't sticking to games, there are too many multiplayer games.
>>319621216
+
totally generic shooting. no classes, everyone has the same weapons
maps are not balanced very well. some laughably bad (bathtub)
try it yourself and refund it if you don't like it. you can play all the maps in under 2 hours
>>319620643
It's a fantastic framework for a game but what you do in it gameplay wise is simply not good. Bad, unsatisfying shooting mechanics mixed with bad netcode on top of 5v5 player limit in enormous map. Not to mention the very casual mechanic of everyone having every weapon by default at all times with unlimited ammo that's just on cooldowns.
>>319621118
I personally love the idea behind almost all of the different objectives. Capture points on a moving train? Fucking cool! Rocket League as a shooter on a foosball table? Brilliant! It's just that the shitty netcode, bad gunplay, and 10 player limit fuck it all up. I will say that I dislike the bathtub map though, it's neat in theory but something is very wrong in execution. Grabbing a flag and then sitting in a slow ass duck boat as it goes around the whole map ruins the pace.
>>319621216
It's not like you should be able to jump and shoot anywhere near accurately anyway but yeah that would be a nice feature. I'd like them to give you a huge cone of fire though so you can't just spam jump while sniping people across the map
>>319621871
the objectives are creative for sure. there just need to be a lot more alternate routes on some of the maps. bathtub is unfuckingwinnable
>>319621352
>multiplayer only game says there are 1500 people currently in game
>server browser shows 2
Yeah no there's some fucked up regional segregating shit going on with all these games. It's a damn shame too. I'm not talking about that game specifically but so many others. Pretty much all of them.
>already only like 8 populated servers and only 3 are full
That is next level dead for a game that's been out for only 2 days. Damn shame.
>>319619095
also refunded
the idea is great but the execution is not
>>319622117
I also think Early Access is a death knell for multiplayer games. At least for all the smart people who wait to buy the game until it's finished.
I don't think it's lackluster, just unfinished.
It's not buggy like a lot of early access games it just needs balance changes and more content.
Should be good if the devs continue to update the game like they promised.
>>319619095
You make a good point. I just refunded. I sincerely hope they fix this, and if it looks like they are, I'll gladly buy again at a later date, but for now I need the $10 back. Sadly, the refunds may be what kill the game and prevent it from improving, but that's the nature of capitalism I suppose.
>>319619906
>devs can delete reviews on steam
What
Why gaben
>>319619906
I'm refunding it just for this reason.
Well fuck I wanted to buy two copies of this but if there's only 3 full servers up already... wtf... man this looks really cool
>>319619906
im putting 9 bux on the ost instead
devs are faggots but dat ost tho
>>319619906
Mine is still up despite getting decent attention. I'm not certain that you're telling the truth about how constructively critical you were.
>>319622819
There's a reason for it being a ghost town. 3 servers might be an exaggeration, but not too far off. The game needs serious work and I'd say a good majority of the people who bought it refunded already. I would honestly recommend seeing for yourself though. You can see every map within 2 hours and then just refund it if you aren't satisfied. It's worth it to see them because they are genuinely cool and interesting, and the music is awesome. If the gameplay were the same quality as the rest of the package, this would be a slam dunk.
>>319623673
I didn't say anything insulting to the game, the devs, or anyone else. I certainly didn't break any rules or post anything offensive. Honest. I laid out my complaints with the gameplay as well as things I liked and said it wasn't worth it at the moment. It was then randomly deleted about 15 minutes later. Don't know why, but it seems shady to me. Other people in threads yesterday were saying the same thing happened to them in the first few hours. Believe me or not, I suppose it doesn't matter, I don't have exact post saved so I can't copy+paste it here for posterity or anything.
>>319624239
Just copy paste it back on steam reviews
>>319623725
I thought it'd be fun to play with friends too
I have a gaming laptop and desktop and two TVs and wireless Xbox controllers work great with all this stuff but it looks like most game modes need more than 2 people and it may die soon...
>>319624239
That's weird if it's true, because mine is still up. Maybe one of the devs did it and got told to stop or something?
Anyway here's a comment by some faggot who doesn't even own the game on my review. I actually got mad.
>>319624520
>leddit the review
>>319624520
He sounds like a fucking marketer
>>319624659
>>319624747
Did I do a decent job blowing him the fuck out?
>>319624520
I actually saw this comment earlier today because I read your review and it made me mad as well. I would have deleted it if it were posted on one of my reviews, it's retarded and sounds almost like a marketer even.
>>319624875
I'd rather leave it there and prove it wrong, than just delete it.
>Stuck on >70 ping every server I enter
>no one joins when I make my own server
>Most maps are boring to play
>Maps are too large, forcing you to spend a lot of time running from spawn to the other side of the map
>Textures constantly switch between ultra blurry and high detail
I'm considering refunding. Fucking, Australia is suffering.
>>319624798
Well done anon.
>>319624973
Why are so many people playing that shitty ass ark game that gets a max of 2fps on ass graphics on even $2000 desktops and this is dead?
The fuck? What the hell is wrong with steam users
>>319624798
Kept it mature anon, gj. I actually want to see this game grow. I fucking love the theme and aesthetic. Hopefully more faggots follow suit
>>319625229
Better question, this is the same dev so how come this looks great and runs smoothly and Ark starts NASA machines on fire on low?
I hope, if nothing else, that this game's existence sparks whoever currently owns the Army Men license to revive it. If I didn't miss those games so much, I probably would be harder on this.
Call me when chunks get tore out of people and they melt from the fire. If they can't match the n64s effects fuck this shit.
I never played any of the Toy Army Men games when I was younger, but I fucking loved the little figures.
A lot of the maps remind of the micro machines games, those were fucking great.
>>319624973
I really don't get why they designed this game to be only 5v5 when the maps are this big. It makes no sense. They should not have fixed the bug that was allowing way more people into a game. The train map as a 10v10 was nuts and way more fun. Refund is probably your best course if action right now though, if significant fixes do end up happening it likely won't be for a few weeks still at the least.
>>319626398
Yeah, I did end up refunding, and 10v10 seems like it'd be a lot more fun. I was also expecting a lot more interaction with the maps, I saw an animation of a soldier getting eaten by a shark in what I thought was the fish tank level, and the tabletop warfare description said something along the lines of "the dice keep rolling in this..." and I thought there would be random events. Apparently not.
>>319626398
I managed to catch a few 25v25 games and it was rather hilarious, the maps they designed are neat but really need 10v10 for sure.
With how well the game ran with 50 players I can't believe they didn't launch it with larger game modes.
>>319626927
If they designed a couple of maps centered around big team battles, that would be perfect. I think one anon said they're thinking about working on vehicles, or they are currently, and think that may introduce larger maps. Maaaybe that would bring in bigger servers.
>>319617827
thanks doc, but I'm gonna need a stronger dose
>>319627183
If they actually stick by their promises and add larger game modes, vehicles, fix the gunplay, etc I'll almost certainly buy the game again. Assuming it survives long enough, the playerbase situation right now is looking quite dire though.
>>319627543
The only way for small MP only games to survive on steam is for them to get lucky and become twitch streamer bait like rocket league
>>319627649
Well by that metric, this game is probably doomed then, literally zero streamers currently and it looks like there were only a handful of lesser known ones doing it on release day.
NEW PATCH NOTES
Has anyone in this thread NOT refunded it and still actively enjoying it that can speak on it? It looks like a less high budget battlefront 2015, with more maps and a fraction of the price.
Fuck, Just purchased it as well.
5v5 seems a bit silly but it looks fun, I guess if it's shit I can refund it.
>>319628076
I still have it. I hop in it for a game or two between studying. I would play it more but I've been working on finals.
For like $10 I can't complain.
>>319628074
Good to see. If they keep this up, I'll be buying it back in no time.
>>319628074
>>319624973
>Refund it
>Patch
>Australian servers
heheheeheheheheheheheheheheeheh
I doubt anyone will play on them anyways.I actually asked for Australian servers in the discussions and the added them, what legends
>>319628652
Let's just hope they keep that up.
>>319628206
Report back with your thoughts if you can
>>319616925
It's not one of the original RTSs so its garbage.
Picked this up earlier today.
Not fantastic, but I'm enjoying it. Just needs more players.
>>319629467
Okay so far I have played two games
+Looks great
+fun Gameplay
+Great maps
+lots of different gamemodes
+sound tracks bretty good
+real nostalgia trip if you played with army men as a kid
-5v5 was a horrible idea and I think will be the games downfall
-Pretty dead game at the moment and I cant see it lasting longer than a month
-having to wait for everyone to ready before you can start a match is silly, if someone doesn't ready up you can be stuck waiting
Buy it if you want to support the devs and hopefully in return they will continue to work on the game otherwise wait a bit and get it cheap and play with some friends.
>>319630943
>eal nostalgia trip if you played with army men as a kid
Hardly. It doesn't have any of that iconic army men stuff. See >>319625845
>>319631272
He means real army men, as in toys.
>>319631272
>>319631390
Yeah I meant the toys
Although blowing off limbs just by shooting them would be neat, it only happens with the rocket launcher and they just break into preset chunks
>>319631390
So do I. Are you telling me you never buried, blew up, smashed or melted yours?
>>319631272
>>319631390
That and it's still the same premise and aesthetic as the Army Men games. Certainly not quite good enough to fill that void, but it definitely tickles the nostalgia just by looking at it.
>>319631567
I don't deny that it looks great, but it didn't help my Sarges Heroes nostalgia at all.
>>319631765
Probably because the gameplay kills the mood.
>>319631527
I would never treat a fellow comrade like that, anon. We have rules of engagement you heathen.
>>319616058
Do the soldiers melt when killed by flame throwers? This is important.
>>319632130
Nope. Was important to me too and I refunded immediately after discovering that.
>>319632130
Nope.
>>319632234
>>319632242
wow.
Honestly that's a day 1 game design document decision. Goes on the first page. Right under the title of the game. How do you not put that in your game about little plastic soldier dudes? Rookie mistake.
>>319632234
are you rusing me?
i heard some anon say the melting plastic is in the game
>>319632092
>fellow comrade
Confirmed for faggot blue bastard. Have you never seen the ads? Green tortured Tan plenty of times.
>>319632468
I assure you I am not. Whoever told you that was the one rusing.
>>319632468
no, not in the game.
however, the devs seem to be taking in suggestions, as they are increasing player cap.
so at the very least, complain on the steam forums.
>>319632532
you know there is an underwater map
are you sure youre not playing on that level?
>>319632368
Right!
The game over screens are neat though
>>319618004
What I dislike about this map is that the first objective is completely meaningless.
>>319632538
It has already been suggested in a few threads there and it seems they've acknowledged the desire for it, so we'll see what happens. Their apparent desire to make changes may not actually ever sync up with their ability to do so though. They're making a lot of lofty promises right now.
im thinking about it
should i?
i feel that if i wait the community might just die out
>>319632706
I hate the bottlenecking this map does.. People just camp by your objective and basically control the map so you really can progress.
>>319632627
There are two maps where the objective requires using the flamethrower, the freezer and the birthday party. I got multiple kills, and killed multiple times, with it in my 2 hours of playtime before refunding and I promise you nothing happens, they just fall over dead. That aquarium map sucks too, by the way.
>>319632740
Tricky question
I'd say not yet however the community won't be around for much longer
>>319632740
The community is already quite dead, most people refunded already. You can experience every map at least once within 2 hours though, so technically you can see the entire game in that time and then refund it if you don't like it. Almost worth it just to see all the maps for yourself because they are cool and the soundtrack is great, but that's up to you.
Are we allowed to shoot while jumping now?
>>319632778
Most of the maps have too much bottlenecking. It works fine for the train, foosball table, and kitchen since they're very push and defend centric but the rest not so much. I feel that the bathtub is the worst because it needs alternate routes but offers none.
>>319633335
No. Maybe soon, they haven't decided yet. Seems like they don't want to allow it though.
>>319633335
I've been playing it for a bit. I frequently get the bathtub level. I don't really experience getting shot out of the air.. I don't know how shooting while jumping would fix that.
>>319633580
I don't mind honestly, it takes a bit to get used to but it makes the birthday level much more fun I think. Making yourself vulnerable when jumping on a gummy is a nice touch.
>>319634059
The real problem with allowing it is the rocket launcher. Too powerful, usually a free kill. If you could jump or fall and fire it, that's too much.
>>319634234
Rocket launcher would need a serious re-balance.
I wonder if it would work better if it was more like the TF2 rocket launcher.
>>319616058
Whoa is this some new Army Men?
>>319634365
It wishes
>>319634323
The rocket launcher is already in need of a serious rebalance. There is no reason why it should dominate close quarters engagements like it does. There is no reason why everyone should be switching to rocket launcher immediately after they spawn. There is no reason why I should be outplaying shotgun and flamethrower users by aiming my rocket straight down and firing.
fuck this soundtrack is excellent
