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>game takes place in mid evil era

>gay character

>isn't stoned to death or burned to the stake

why do game devs allow something so unrealistic
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>mid evil
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>>319598105
I'm more worried about his drawn on mustache
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the eras go:

early evil
mid evil
late evil
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It's a fantasy world, rules like that don't apply.
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>>319598105
>mid evil

It's medieval.
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>>319598264
whops
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>>319598105
>mid evil
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>>319598232
yeah your right i i hate this kinda logic as well i made this to mock the kinda people who say female armor is unrealistic
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>>319598105
Pretty sure Dragon Age is set in a complete fantasy world completely removed from reality. And I mean that in the literal sense, not as an insult.
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>>319598358
>whops
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You guys sure are acoustic.
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OP needs to learn a things or toos
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>>319598105
He looks so much better without the stupid mustache.
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But he comes from a Byzantinian culture that accepts homosexuality behind closed doors but shirks it in the public space.
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>>319598105
>game takes place in medieval era
>character uses a pen to draw on his moustache
>pens don't exist
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Witcher handles gay shit better.
Gay characters are either outcasts (White Orchard hunter, Ciri x Mistle, etc) or Sorceresses.
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>>319599189
But then how would you know he's gay?
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>Game is set in high fantasy magic settings
>Idiots wonder why it doesn't adhere to the culture of a completely different setting.
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>>319598105
>game takes place in the far future

>gay character

>isn't phaser'd to death or vented out of an airlock

why do game devs allow something so unrealistic
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>>319598227
After late evil we have the end times.
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>>319598616
It's not a hard leap for most people to imagine a fictional setting with a different social structure than they're used to, even unprecedented ones. There's just no hard set rules for what people consider socially appropriate.
Believing that wearing a handful of coins over your breasts offers any serious protection is an entirely different set of mental gymnastics.
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>fantasy world
>completely different timeline
>technological and social differences due to fantasy races and magic
>call it "medieval era" based on a time period in human history and judge it as if its the same
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>>319598105
>why do game devs allow something so unrealistic
It's a FANTASY game! Reality doesn't HAVE to be a factor here, it can be whatever it wants! Who cares if it contradicts reality?

Oh, but it better have gay, trans and female characters because It's 2015. Games need to stat reflecting the real world because the real world is diverse and that comes first, not your creative freedom!
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>>319599464
By the beauty mark.
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Who's the character with the retarded lopsided beard? I only ever see him in the quality bioware animation gifs, I just want to see if that's really how he's supposed to look.
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>>319599630
it likely that civilization has not been around for a while and this world has not socialy progressed
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>>319599848
>tfw if i ever made a game /v/ would consider it SJW pandering garbage just because it has cute lesbians that are lesbians for reasons other than sexual arousal
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>>319599848
why would a world not have female characters. literally half of the earth's population
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>>319600171
yeah but /v/ doesn't play games just like SJWs don't play games
who gives a fuck what either think
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>>319599292
>character uses a penis to draw on his moustache
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>>319599189
is that rreally a painted on moustache?
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>>319599683
Go fucking kill yourself SJW, you don't belong on this site. Also get help for the autism
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>game with magic and dragons
>a fag existing is what's unbelievable
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>>319600540
since magic exist, they could cure gayness easily
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You can find a book called "Sexuality in [Wherever]" I can't remember the name of the region/world, but it outlines that people can generally do whatever they want sexually as long as they are private about it.

It's a half-assed modernization for the sake of their audience, but they did at least address it in-game.
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>>319600509
Whoops, presented a rational and unbiased argument. Here comes the irrational ad hominem responses.
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>>319599337
There better be good lesbian porn of her otherwise that's a total waste of a character.
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>>319600239
Demographics. Same reason ads for shoes are primarily aimed at women and more shoes are made for women than men despite 50% of the population being male and also needing to wear shoes.
>>319600171
Point being these feminists and too many people pushing for diversity in games use the
>It's a FANTASY game! Reality doesn't HAVE to be a factor here!
excuse when challenged or questioned, when they themselves are doing the exact same shit by insisting that games be more diverse simply for the sake of being more diverse. If it's a made-up, fictional world full of fictional characters and events, then why does it HAVE to be diverse in the first place? It's fucking hypocritical, they hide behind creative freedom to defend blatant pandering shoehorning but attack it at every turn when it's not in line with their ideals.
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>>319600653
Funnily enough, the gay mage in Inquisition ran away because his dad tried to cure his gayness with blood magic.
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>>319598105
Why the fuck do you care if Bioware's fanfic tier characters are accurate. They sure don't.
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>>319598194
It's the time when the evil was in the middle of severity. Pls fucking learn history, dumb Americans
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>>319600839
it's explained that in tevinter you can be gay as long as you at least put on the facade of a heterosexual marriage and reproduce (tevinter's apparently obsessed with genes and breeding)
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>WHY DOESN'T THIS FANTASY WORLD FOLLOW THE RULES OF OUR WORLD RRRRREEEEEEE
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>>319600886
Please stop thinking too highly of yourself, moronic autist
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>Elf, the race of grace and beauty.
>Look like this.
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>>319601346
bet she's an elfist
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>>319598105
Dragon Age doesn't take place in a Medieval setting though. It doesn't even take place in this universe. Also there were plenty of fags running around back then, they just weren't announcing it.

And people who dabbled in magic/sorcery/witchcraft were burned at the stake far more than anyone was for being gay.
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>>319601346
Every race has its outliers. Her facial structure isn't even anything like the other elves in the game.
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>>319601024
>is against stifling creative freedom
>expresses this by dictating what the story SHOULD be
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>>319600239
Most games tend to focus on conflict areas, which tend to have fewer females because they're the people most likely to be evacuated out of the area and the least likely to be deployed or conscripted into combat.
...except in fantasy worlds where women are just as capable as men in every way and don't need any protection because population growth is based on the author's whim.
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>>319601024
Good point. If people would ask why 9 out of 10 of my games feature lesbians I would just answer i like cute lesbians
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>>319601024
idk i don't think there's any reason the characters' genders would change the quality of the work unless it was something egregious like sex-segregated institutions
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>>319598227
>We're living in the late evil period

Everything makes sense now
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>>319601525
>expresses this by dictating what the story SHOULD be
What?
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>Medieval setting
>blacks are not slaves or are represented.

This triggers me
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>>319601106
>blood magic
Isn't that the kind of thing the game's society actually does indiscriminately execute people over?
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More Like

Ferelden: Doesn't care as long as its private

Tevinter: Heavily homophobic, believe in strict breeding plans and arranged marriages to create better mages

Orlais: Extremely hedonistic, sexuality is seen as simply being just another part of The Game
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>>319601786
Execute or lobotomize with magic, generally.
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It's a fantasy. And if you ideal for a fantasy world has the oppression of minorities, maybe you're a bit fucked in the head, yeah?
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>>319601786
Yes, but it's not treated quite that way in Tevinter which is where he's from.
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>>319598225
Them olden times. They were good.
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>>319601910
well your idea for a fantasy world can be any thing you want and the oppression of minorities can be something explored via storytelling
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>>319601894
Well if magic lobotomies are an available and acceptable option, why didn't the dad just with that first? That'd clear up the gayness and the flamboyance in one shot.
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>>319598105

>there will never be a Sparta fantasy RPG with gay romance
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>>319598227
> late evil
does this mean that we are SO OVER evil now? Like how hot bitches talk about...iunno clothes or something?
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To people saying the rules don't apply in fantasy, okay, I get that.

But when Iron Bull is spouting about his dyke tranny friend like its the most normal thing in the world for his of all people, when it's clearly just a modern SJW ideal wearing a thin veneer of historied fantasy.
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>>319598105
You type like a 12 years old, which fits your /pol/ edgyness just right.
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>>319601758
>medieval setting
>it's harder to earn respect as a female
>no blacks anywhere
Name the game
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>>319602154
Because then they're walking husks incapable of magic (Tranquil), so his status in Tevinter would be null. His father wanted him to attain high status, reproduce, and further the bloodline. I'm not sure they even bother with Tranquil in Tevinter.
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Point one
>It does not take place in medieval earth, meaning what was true for medieval earth might not necessarily be true for your setting.
Point two
>Being stoned to death or burned at the stake means that two things need to happen. A mob that is strong enough and fast enough to catch you needs to suspect that you are gay, or, if you're in a province in which there is a significant presence of law and order, damning evidence of your homosexuality has to be brought to the authorities, and then they still have to catch you.

There is nothing improbable about a gay bard in a Tolkien fantasy setting; there's nothing even improbable about a gay man in medieval Europe, although he'd be closeted for his own safety.
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>>319599189
You know why they gave him that stache, because he looks exactly like that one scholar mage in the dlc of origins without it. I cant remember his name but he was the one that was agoraphobic and didn't like to leave the tower.
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why'd you have to remind me of inquisition

i actually beat inquisition and I still regret it
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>>319602336
Mountain Blade?
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>>319602323
He's not wrong though.
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>>319602418
>baldur's gate
>neverwinter nights
>KOTOR
>dragon age origins
>mass effect 1

How did one studio have such a jarring plummet into the endless chasm of quality so quickly?
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>>319602313
the qunari do have a different understanding of gender though
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>>319600839

>it's a half-assed modernization for the sake of their audience

No it isn't, it's a reference to Byzantine.
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>>319602492
Bingo.

I only play as a female in mountain blade. hard mode for life
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>>319602564
>balls
>SUPER BALLS
>never played
>fundamentally broken piece of shit
>POOR PACING IN SPAAAACE

Seems they're still par for course.
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>>319601910
How are you supposed to have stories of characters overcoming oppression in your idyllic fantasy worlds where there is no oppression?
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Why do western people have such fascinations with gay people and fat women?

You guys have perverted notion of sexiness.
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>>319602686
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>>319602564
Bioware. Bioware just saw money from EA and didn't care that EA has no real QA/polish time for games made under them. Bioware's greed basically killed that studio.
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>>319602564
a bit after they were acquired by EA the old guard started to realize that holy shit EA is literally the devil and they all left

all that remains now is the cheapest freshly graduated game "devs" ea could find and gaider. gaider was an underling back when the good shit was being made and now he's running the show
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>/v/ having legitimate threads about DA: Cisquisition

what happened?
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in that dude's case, he's the son of a very weakthy and politically influential wizard.
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>>319599683
What

Dude shut the fuck up.

There is nothing wrong with gay characters and there is nothing wrong with sexy outfits and armor in a fantasy setting. Its all fiction. And youre all faggot.
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>>319598105
Because no Christian tyranny. Plain and simple.
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>>319602934
what do you mean? this is pretty much the same as ever DAI thread, just endless shitting on this horrible horrible game

>>319602964
god you just reminded me that his personal quest was literally "help me come out to my dad"
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>>319598105
Actually depending on the culture being a faggot was seen as macho or honorable. Although no one was GAY but everyone was bi because it turns out your penis doesn't care what you're fucking.
But onto another matter, the more grievous sin for sure is that females are considered equal to male in terms of hand to hand combat. It's blatantly retarded. Even the most legendarily badass female is nothing compared to an average trained male.
The power gap in reality is ridiculous.
My old standby point is this: Male pushup record is over 10,000 consecutive pushups. Female record for consecutive pushups is just over 300.
Fucking retarded when a female can have 18 strength in d and d or whatever.
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>>319602313
It wasn't totally uncommon for women to fight or pose as men in mid evil times.
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>>319602768
I'm responding to your bait of calling my post bait. I'm completely serious. Try telling me that playing Dragon Age Origins on a difficulty that isn't braindead is fun. Oh man I sure do love pausing the game every 3 milliseconds because the AI's fucking terrible and don't listen to orders for more than 1 second. And don't tell me Mass Effect has good pacing or something because that fucking first space station is balls.
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>>319598105
In Inquisition even Qunari has their trannies and gays. Iron bull is bisexual.
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>>319602564
>originally wanted to make software for clinical research
>made video games to generate funding for that goal
>eventually just care about money itself and completely forget why they even chose the name Bioware

It's a shame, really.
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>>319603051

>Caring about realism in a magical fantasy setting

top autism
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>>319603165
No, he's pansexual because he's related to Pan.
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>>319602313
If you Remember Sten ask your Warden why she isn't a home maker if you play as female
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>>319603090
Uh..you dont know,what yoire talking about. It was still a rare occurance even if it happened. If you think it was common for women to do that yoire shitting on the women that did it well, because there just werent that many doing so no matter how you slice it.

Again you do not know what you are talking about. I suggest seppoku.
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>>319603165
Iron Bull is a really shitty Qunari to be fair. He has to keep going to get his brain rescrubbed by the priests.

But the Qunari haveing a word for trannies is dumb. It should be a completely alien concept to them, judging from what Sten thinks about gender and people's lot in life.
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>>319602720
> gay people

>perverted notion of sexiness.

i might recommend you spend some time on /y/
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>>319603304
>he doesn't prefer his fantasy to be rooted in reality except for a few exceptions such as low magic or fantastical creatures and races
Absolutely disgusting.
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>>319603302
any sauce
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>>319602768
Also I want to say that I really wanted to like Dragon Age Origins. It was pretty baller in general but the broken gameplay was just not fun. To be fair, not a lot of RPGs do difficulty very well anyways.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/11911775/pics/bulletsponge.webm Yeah, that's about how long how long it should take.

Another example is pic related. I stumbled across Sword Dancer 2 in Tales of Symphonia. I couldn't do more than 2 damage with my strongest attack. So I chipped the fucker to death.

So I guess my argument lies more with the fact that DA:O has troubles even handling its own difficulties thanks to dumb pausing shit than anything else.
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>>319601620
Its not that changing the gender or having gay/trans characters is bad at all, shoehorning them in for the sake of having a diverse cast is. It too often becomes the character's defining trait resulting in the character having little depth. The character wasn't gay because the writer/whomever had an idea for a well thought out character who happened to be gay, the character is gay because they're pandering and the character is just as shallow and one-dimensional as they'd be if straight and/or white.

Anyone who criticizes these decisions to blatantly pander is met with backlash and name-calling while these so-called progressives hide behind the idea of creative freedom in art while stepping all over it in the process by telling devs to be more diverse and demonizing and talking down to anyone who disagrees or calls them on their bullshit.
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>>319603663
>he doesn't like his fantasy to turn reality as we understand it on its head and be an entirely alien world that only resembles reality superficially
Do you think your parents are ashamed that they raised a pleb?
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>>319601192
When was the big evil times?
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>>319602564
EA.
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>>319602418
LARGEST BUDGET IN VIDEO GAME HISTORY
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>>319602313
Qunari are fucking weird though. If you played the first game as a woman, the dude straight up asks "I don't get it, you're a warrior but you look like a woman."
Even his sexism is weird. Men are merchants and warriors, but women are teachers and politicians.
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>>319601535
>...except in fantasy worlds where women are just as capable as men in every way and don't need any protection because population growth is based on the author's whim.
SJWs love to hide behind the "it's a fantasy setting!" excuse when it's favorable, but you'd better not make a game with scantily clad women or white-males doing while-male things without minorities or women, because creative freedom doesn't apply to such icky, problematic subject material.
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>>319603892
Bethesda can't balance a game for shit, and their combat's not that good either. That's why they put a difficulty slider in the option menu of all of their games.
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>>319601910
>It's a fantasy. And if you ideal for a fantasy world has the oppression of minorities, maybe you're a bit fucked in the head, yeah?

>Conflict or hardship for characters is bad

This is why videogame writing is 99% shallow trash. The only narrative studios can be arsed to give their games is "kill le evil well-defined bad guy in le world of black and white morality" because fags like you get triggered whenever there's a chance that a slightly compelling story might rear its head.
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>>319603984
There's no point in completely unrealistic fantasy.
Great fantasy is like comedy, the formula is one part real one part absurd.
For instance, no one wants to read/watch/play a setting where being short and thin makes you strong, gravity is three times as strong and always towards the moon, and if you go outside during the summer without a coat you freeze to death.
Likewise, a fantasy world where women and men are identical to their real world counterparts in every way except that women are as strong as men for no reason is pants shittingly retarded and needs to be fixed about 20 years ago.
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>>319598227
That's makes sense.
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>>319601243
You're the fucking autist.
Liking a sense of realism when it comes to armor is not being SJW, you fucking retard. Sure SJWs hate it because it's "too sexualized" (and honestly if i wanted to look at something sexy id be watching porn anyways), but I just hate it because it ruins the fuck out of immersion.
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>>319603304
>Caring about realism in a magical fantasy setting
Then why do we need to pander and be diverse if it's not what the creators want to do?
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>>319603984
Not every fantasy setting has to be Wonderland. Especially not video games. Nonsensical stream of consciousness games tend to be pointless shit with no merits.
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>Still getting upset about gays

Its like you want to be mad, OP

It's much easier to stop caring than to care at all for either direction about this kind of thing.
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>>319604321
Well yeah, but that's just the wildest example of bullet sponging I had on me. In general I find that RPG shit on hard either devolves into bullet sponging or crippling the player (SMT3). But DA:O can't even keep up with the difficulty due to the horrible AI. If they really fucking stopped and working on making the AI programmable, it would have been an amazing game. Not so since they expect you to pause and micromanage everything. That's not fun. That's fucking asinine.
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>>319598105
Videogames are about self inserting and jerking off your own ego, not realism.
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>>319604753
To be fair, gays are extremely destructive to everyone. Not only are they self destructive via increased rate of suicide, drug abuse, and self harm; they also spread disease.
If it weren't for the media brainwashing everyone, most people would probably be outraged at how irresponsible and downright immoral most gay men are.
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>mid evil
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>>319604006
You're living in it.
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>>319604323
underated posted
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>>319604781
Probably would have helped if they tied those automated teammate instructions to something besides the leveling system. Who wants to waste limited upgrades that could make your teammates stronger on making them mildly less stupid instead?
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>>319598105
Because you're ignoring the fact they take place in a fictional, uh, "mid evil" era.
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>>319601346
What a shame
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>>319603090
That's not what it's about man, she's not just a lesbian she's a "man", because she was born a woman but is really a man. They specifically say that she's a man because she feels like a man, though born a woman.

Totally different to what you're suggestinf
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>>319602362
What? They gave him that mustache to make him a rip off of Freddy Mercury.
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are there any video games that show how shity "mid evil" times are
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>>319605850
That is an insult to Freddy Mercury's mustache.
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>>319605917
DAO and Witcher.
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>>319605917
dark souls blood borne
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>>319599616
this though

>>319599189
>have you ever said something so homosexual that you physically changed mid-sentence
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