You're doing this for the planet, same as us?
>>319562439
pssh don't get any ideas kid, I'm doing this for myself
>>319562439
You sure will save the planet being a fat fuck
I know SOLDIER and/or Mako recipients are essentially operating at a metahuman level but god damn is Cloud little. Doesn't bother me anywhere near as bad as Lightning's itty bitty legs did but god damn.
>>319562439
HATE PLANET
>>319562727
yeah.
at least Tidus looked pretty ripped.
>>319562727
Wedge is in the foreground in that shot, but yeah. He looks a bit scrawny.
Shoulders look too close together.
I'm a DYEL manlet but I don't look as bad as Cloud there because I have normal male shoulder width.
Hydras back
>>319562439
Fuck you /v/ I'm actually hyped for this
>tfw had the biggest crush on jessieso did the sector 7 plate
The AVALANCHE member designs were the best thing about that trailer. Gives me hope for the character designs for the rest of the game.
>mfwTifa gets crushed by the sector plate and Jessie survives and joins the party
>tfw I'm skinnier than cloud
>>319563137
>hyped for episodic garabge
>>319563137
Than you are an underage shit
>>319563258
nah man, tifa is going to get killed by sephiroth and aerith lives, just to fuck with people.
>>319563164
>>319563198
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fF2TCjRMA-g
The opening scenes also played out almost exactly the same.
>>319563317
THANK YOU
>>319562727
To be fair, when you're dealing with superhuman strength, lots or little muscle is too little anyway, so it doesn't matter.
This cloud is looking almost perfect, all he needs is slightly beefier arms. He needs to edge out of Auschwitz mode.
>>319563431
>aerith
I know they're being faithful for the original, but Jessie and Wedge look kind of like shit. They didn't update their designs at all, just made them 3D and they look silly. Jessie especially looks bad when compared to Cloud or Barret or any of the Advent Children character models.
>>319563514
he's auschwitzmode on purpose, at this point in the gane he is sick.
>>319563409
Played it 99 on my PS1, and if you were even alive back then you'd know that FF7 was amazing. And seeing it come back to life like this is awesome.
>>319563164
I dont think i can handle Jessie dying in HD
>>319563665
>implying they actually give enough of a shit for little details like that
>>319563721
So did I, it was nothing special, FF6 was better.
I was never a graphics fag. All people were talking about in school were the GRAPHIXX
And the remake looks like fucking shit gameplay wise and you are a sheep if you fail for the episodic scam
>>319563665
No. He looks pretty fine in the original's HQ models and in the concept art.
Cloud WAS sick, he's been nursed back to health. He should have a little meat on those stick arms of his.
>>319563889
>All people were talking about in school were the GRAPHIXX
Did you go to a school for the blind? How do blind people play videogames?
>>319563595
Oh god if her default name is Aerith I'm boycotting this game.
>>319563889
>FF6 was better
Stopped reading there
>>319563853
This is SE we're talking about
They care
Only dev that I know cared more is dead
>>319564043
>This is SE we're talking about
What kind of low effort bait is this?
>>319562439
>>319563992
wat
Thats all the kids talked about, specially when cloud did his special attacks that had a DBZ aura
>>319564025
Good you know what else was better? CT, Lufia 2, and lots more.
FF7 was mediocre and only got popular because of its graphics
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zGhPzva.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>319563853
They say so in the interviews, they would just make him the pretty boy he is in dissidia otherwise.
>>319564024
Her name's been Aerith since 2001. Get over it already.
>>319562439
>>319562962
:^)
>>319564025
your taste is garbage, FF6 is obviously superior
>better villain
>more epic story
>better characters
>better soundtrack
>>319564270
epix, upvote my good sir XD
>>319564207
Are you saying SE doesn't care about attention to detail in a fucking final fantasy game?
>>319564207
Not sure what you're on about, SE has always been good at paying attention to the little details.
Furthermore, the devs of FFVII:RE have said that Cloud looking sickly is "good" and wouldn't elaborate on why, mostly to avoid spoilers.
>>319564270
Is this literally you?
>>319564043
It's like you knew this was a bad idea but you went ahead and posted it anyways
0/10
A - LOVE PLANET
B - HATE PLANET
C - ROMANCE
D - SKELETOR
>>319564431
Why are you pretending SE doesn't care about FF?
>>319564270
You used epic unironically. Kill yourself
>>319564417
>b-b-but muh dark edgy storyline
Seriously people need to stop pretending that old = better.
>>319564682
Epic has a meaning out side of memes you know.
>>319564383
Yeah, have you played them?
>>319562439
Whats Tubbies purpose in the game? Does he eat enemy soldiers?
>>319564270
6 is broken dogshit. 7 actually isn't broken at all, it's just bland, uninspired, and has a fuck awful cast of characters.
>Not interested
Somehow that comes off much better in text than spoken dialogue
Imagine an FF VIII remake and Squall voicing "whatever" every other sentence he has
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ2hj1uu4h8&feature=youtu.be
>>319564839
But that's what early game Cloud is like.
He gets better as the story goes on.
>>319564839
Squall doesn't work well as a voiced protagonist. He has too much inner monologue.
Shut the fuck up Badger.
>>319564839
I thought it sounded great both in AC and in this trailer
I love how Cloud sounds detached most of the time, because he fucking is
>>319564775
Yeah, FFXIII was probably the most polished and less buggy rpg from last gen
>>319563665
>at this point in the gane he is sick.
From having fucking mako pumped into him. You know, that magical shit that beefs up SOLDIERs and makes fucking beefy monsters?
>>319564839
I don't think it's awkward, whoever the VA is just made it come off a little weird. Someone saying they aren't interested in something is a completely normal line, but in any case it fits with his 'whatever (lol)' attitude at the start
>>319564970
Also he'd be annoying as fuck to listen to. He's the perfect example of a edgelord
>>319562439
Final fantasy games are horribad. I can't believe someone actually plays that shit.
>>319564839
>Imagine an FF VIII remake and Squall voicing "whatever" every other sentence he has
I would buy this day 1. Think about how hilarious that would actually be
>>319564970
>>319565208
He'd literally be Donte. Maybe worse.
You know what, DEFINITELY worse.
>>319565208
>He's the perfect example of a edgelord
No way man. That's Seifer. Squall is the opposite of an edgelord. He has total empathy to everyone around him. He just doesn't voice it in the beginning. Which is why the inner monologues happen.
>>319565283
If you think FF7R or FFXIII represent FF then you most likely have only ever seen new FF, which is significantly different from squaresoft era FF.
I'm gonna save miss Jessie!
>>319563164
>>319565208
>Edgelord
He's a socially avoidant teenager who has trust/abandonment issues. Every time someone says "edgelord" or "emo fuckface" it just comes off like they didn't play the game. He's a damaged character-- and his development as the game goes on is to overcome that. He's not saying 'whatever' by disc 3, and nor does Cloud carry on his air of being a mercenary who doesn't care about anything that's happening around him 30 hours into the game.
>>319565415
Squall makes Cloud look like Don Draper. I've rarely felt so much disdain for a main-character before.
>>319565302
That's pretty much how it happened in Dissidia.
>>319565159
Attention to detail is not a merit of only getting rid of bugs. In no way that relates to the discussion at hand.
>>319565678
Then you clearly didn't paid enough attention. Squal is a zero grade edgelord. Seifer takes that role and that's why he's Squall rival.
Cloud for mega slap sisters when
Cloud for ultra assault relatives when
Cloud for hyper combat siblings when
I fixed cloud, guys
>>319563853
too cute
>>319565947
6/10 not perfect popeye arms
>>319565737
I was talking about production values
You know little things like Lightning's cape not clipping into her, Vanille having 3 atb bars at the beginning
Not to mention the general sheer technical perfection
Also find me another 7th gen rpg that was polished like FFXIII
As someone who has never played the game, how long does it take to beat.
Keep in mind I'm basically a casual pleb. So there's a chance on the more difficult parts I will be stuck a while.
I guess I'm asking how long it takes to beat on average. It's 3 disks right? Is there a lot of grind?
>>319565724
Pretty sure he doesn't say Whatever not even once in Dissidia
Maybe in some of the weird 012 reports
>>319566079
5 hours if you know what ur doing
>>319564259
go back to gamefaqs please
![guts___berserk_by_talitapersi-d8jd94c[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IbDqc1z.jpg "guts___berserk_by_talitapersi-d8jd94c[1].jpg")
>>319565947
I reworked the hair a little, no need to thank me
>>319566079
The last disc is literally one little section of the game
>>319566079
I recommend you use a walkthrough, it will be still long, but you won't be fucked on certain enemies or bosses.
A very important thing to use is enemy skill materia you get quite soon. Skills like Beta or Aqualung will come in handy and allow you to decimate enemies for a long time.
>>319566079
It's typical Jrpg length, around 30-40 hours long and you only have to grind if you want bosses to be piss easy
>>319565554
Oh shit, son
>>319566079
>grinding
Fuck that, just press buttons until you win fights
>>319562439
>You're doing this to save the game industry from SJW, same as us ?
>>319566062
Anon, you're seirously trying to grab me into a discussion where you use FFXIII as a positive example of SE capability to deliver quality products. I could make hours long lectures about what's wrong with XIII. But i'm not in the mood and honestly, i know by experience that's simply not worth it. That game is a study case.
>>319563795
I can't wait. Hopefully it will be in slow motion so you can really enjoy the moment when her eyes pop out of her tearful sockets, followed by a brain mush and blood.
The r34 will be fucking amazing.
>>319565947
>literally using strawmen to prove a point
>>>/redditt/
>>319564685
Final Fantasy 7 came out over 15 years ago. More time has passed between it and now than passed between 6 and 7.
>>319566964
You're just jealous of my fawless anatomy
>>319563853
They outright say in the interview that came out that Kitase is glad that Cloud looks sickly and weak at this part of the game, because he's supposed to be.
>>319562439
that dude on the left is making me gay right now
literally I feel attracted to him for some reason
BUT I AM NOT FUCKING GAY
WHAT THE FUCK
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
>>319567813
You're gay. Nigga ain't attractive.
>>319565206
It feels like it was kind of a rush job just to make sure there were some voices for the trailer.
>>319567813
He just seems like a nice guy.
>>319562727
People are forgetting that the game takes place a few weeks after Zack's death and Clouds recovery from mako catatonia and all of that.
He should look malnourished at the beginning of the game.
>>319567813
Could be fetish related anon
>>319567895
>yfw they asked the janitor to do some lines real quick the day before the finished trailer was due in
>>319568114
That would explain Wedge. I mean at least for Cloud and Barret those have been their VAs since Advent Children
>>319562439
Wedge fucking sounds like Mickey mouse
>We are taking liberties with this remake!
>Like completely changing the combat system.
>But the awful writing stays the same!
WHY
H
Y
>>319564416
>spoiling
>a game thats almost 20 years old
haha
>>319568358
Nostalgia fags need something
>>319568358
It wasn't really that bad, honestly. It had sort of a weird Squenix charm but it wasn't bad. The game wasn't nearly as edgy as many people remember it.
>>319564839
>Imagine an FF VIII remake and Squall voicing "whatever" every other sentence he has
You know Squall says "...Whatever" only 5 times in the entirety of FFVIII, right?
In Japanese he says "sorry" in those lines, in a "sorry, I don't think I can help you" sense
>>319568532
What a silly thing to change.
>>319567813
>BUT I AM NOT FUCKING GAY
Being attracted to traps and/or twinks is the first step.
Anon, I am sorry.
>>319564270
>a clown with zero character development and no motivation wants to destroy everything for no reason
>better villain
>>319564839
They already used him in Kingdom Hearts and he was overly serious but not a pouty faggot. Other characters played off of him and put him in his place. Might not work as well in FF8 because it's a lot more serious overall.
>>319564970
This would be an issue though. Tidus had a lot of it too and he was obnoxious.
>>319568734
It's translated like it is because it's for Americans.
You can maintain a character, but that doesn't mean that it'll translate. A likable character in one culture isn't necessarily likable in another. Sometimes the only way to keep the tone of the character is to change the character unless you want little cultural subtitles that have to explain why so and so is supposed to be immediately disliked despite appearing like an upstanding person. That kind of apologetic distancing is a lot more common in Japanese culture. People might not like it, but a lot more people are willing to do it a lot more of the time to keep the peace. The commentary can be on how that sort of personality affects Squall's ability to lead. In American culture maybe I know 1 person like that. "Whatever" might be a little more bristling, but it's typical teenage angst for the culture. If Squall acts like a person that Japanese would consider a wall of tatamae, he's going to come across as all that more weak and distant to an American... and maybe the translators didn't want it to go to that extent.
>>319568929
Actually I would argue that Tidus's inner monologue was both the best acting performance for him and the best part of his character.
>>319568358
Who says that the awful writing is staying the same?
We haven't heard enough voice clips to judge from it so far.
>>319568463
It was fine by the standards of the time.
Now it's 20 years later, and it's going to be voiced.
Not giving that script a massive overhaul is a big mistake if they are already changing so much.
>>319569034
The contrast between inner Tidus and his spoken lines was the highlight of his character. It made him complex and likeable.
>>319569087
Considering they said in the interview that they want it to be a game that fans of the original love, it wouldn't make sense to change the story.
>>319569250
>it wouldn't make sense to change the story.
THey already said they are changing the story.
>>319569250
Story elements will stay the same, that doesn't mean they won't try to improve the dialogue however.
>>319568904
>a guy who spends the game in a crater using thought projections and suddenly snapped with little to no discernible motivation/reasoning
>better villain
>>319569217
I think James Arnold Taylor was held back. He intentionally wanted to go full Michael J Fox with Tidus's voice, but was told to make it more...rubbery. And he can do the MJF voice perfectly, he's done it in dubbing roles before.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MurmenCSIOI
>>319569313
They said they're tweaking the story, that doesn't mean it won't follow the same overall plot. Otherwise it's not a remake.
>>319564259
her name is aerith. get over it. literally every single piece of merchandise has had the name aerith on it. the only one that didn't was the english TRANSLATION of the GAME. even the MANUAL had her name as aerith, and her name's kanji could be translated to aer-i-su or aer-i-th.
>>319569518
"In addition to delving into these episodes more deeply, we’re preparing a number of mechanisms and such. To those who played the original version will know the important parts and understand the story from the beginning to the end."
"I don’t want the remake to end as something solely nostalgic. I want to get the fans of the original version excited. We’ll be making adjustments to the story with this thought in mind."
The plot will stay the same. But they can change story elements and how they unfold.
>>319565165
But he's not zack. He was sickly looking in crisis core as well. Maybe he'll get more jacked as the story progresses.
>>319569737
If it means removing the CPR section, that's fine with me
>>319565678
squall is a professional motherfucker who has issues trusting people because he has abandonment issues, so he keeps himself at a distance, but still works with them and can empathize.
>>319565206
I think it's ADR for the trailer kinda like that MGSV language trailer where skull faces lines were dropped in over a different scene.
>>319569823
It can mean many things, good and bad. Probably a little of both.
>>319569369
He snapped due to a combination of a superiority complex, thinking he was the son of an alien god, realizing the people he was working for were ass hats, and the soldier process messing with his head.
>>319569895
The thing that made it weird was the awkward speed his response came at. It's obviously cut in over the Japanese trailer, and the actual scene would play out more naturally.
>>319570003
Honestly, even with the whole multi-part thing, all i care is that the game is good.
Taking aside that this is probably so that the game will cost like 90 bucks altogether, if putting it in multiple parts is something Nomura and Kitase genuinely think will turn out a better overall product, I'm ok with that. I just want them game to turn out good, even if I'm not the biggest fan of the methods taken to obtain that.
>>319562439
Yes.
But it's a whole different planet.
>>319570383
>gravity keeping you down
Filthy Newtype propoganda
>>319570229
Everyone want the game to be good. Developers as well. But intention alone isn't enough. There's always drawbacks involved with any choice. That's part of the process. A episodic/multipart design structure surely can bring unpredictible problems. Will those drawbacks end up hurting the Remake? Time will tell.
>>319570383
>2015
>There are still people who's souls are weighted down by gravity.
>>319570482
Mad feddie detected
Funny how much more this game belongs in 2015, compared to 97'.
>>319570592
If they just said "it's too expensive, if we don't release at least part of it separately we'll never have the money to finish it", I think people would have swallowed the news better than the data reason.
That being said, something being split into parts won't necesarily kill it. The original 4 .hack games was meant to be two, titled Infection and Quarrantine. But Bamco had them split each game into two (and quite honestly they DID run out of space), so Infection became Infection and Mutation, and Quarrantine became Outbreak and Quarrantine. That is why it doesn't feel like the games didn't really reach a "stopping" point between games until the end of Mutation. But even then, the story did not suffer. Only our wallets did.
>>319566586
Look, I don't need your politics.
>>319570664
>mfw I'm a way bigger Zelda fan than I am a FF7 fan
>happy that FF7 is getting a full-blown, proper remake but mad jelly at the same time that the N64 Zeldas just got some handheld, half-port BS.
>the remake for FF7 makes me realize how ahead of its time the game really was, and how it'll be properly utilized thanks to modern 2015 tech, as you've said
>realize that OoT and MM were also ahead of their time, and had a ton of cut content and concepts taken out due to limitations, like SoTC-styled boss battles, seasons, advanced horse combat, romance options, dialogue choices, etc
>we'll never get that because Nintendo are lazy, incompetent fucks now; no return of the classic OoT vs FF7 debates in the old internet days, brought back in a new light via proper remakes.
God I wish Nintendo wasn't a joke company now. It's funny how Square Enix was a joke last gen with all of their FF13/Lightning trash, but they've really started to pick up their game this gen. I'm happy for them, at least.
>>319571663
At least Lightning Returns had good gameplay. They just needed to make it about a different game.
>>319571089
dude its pretty clear that they intend to milk this as much as they can
and the retarded fans will believe whatever they say
>>319571840
As long as the game turns out good in the end, I'm fine with that.
You know what happens when you milk something but it's shit? You get Blizzard.
So, how do you think they'll approach her death?
Play it out exactly as in the original?
Let her live throughout the entire game (perhaps wounding her and/or having her die at the very end)?
Have her die as normal, but give the player a chance to bring her back?
On one hand, it's a well-known moment and it might be risky to mess with it.
On the other, they know people want more of her and this is an opportunity to give them more.
>>319571981
>Let her live throughout the entire game (perhaps wounding her and/or having her die at the very end)?
They won't do it. Literally everyone in the original dev team was against the idea, and they're the ones making the remake.
![latest[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sYZrE9r.jpg "latest[1].jpg")
>>319562439
The nostalgia
>>319571981
They'll probably throw in a side quest where Cloud can speak to her one last time through the lifestream or something. Getting closure.
>>319571957
well at least my second sentence has been proved
>>319572157
Well we get that in AC.
I don't think Kitase will go against what he said about it back in 2003
>"In the real world things are very different. You just need to look around you. Nobody wants to die that way. People die of disease and accident. Death comes suddenly and there is no notion of good or bad. It leaves, not a dramatic feeling but great emptiness. When you lose someone you loved very much you feel this big empty space and think, 'If I had known this was coming I would have done things differently. These are the feelings I wanted to arouse in the players with Aerith's death relatively early in the game. Feelings of reality and not Hollywood."
>>319572157
What's more closure than death, nigga? She died in disc 1 and was forgotten about before we started disc 2.
>>319564270
Ffvii is boring schlock; I'm glad the steam version was made in rpg maker
>>319572407
>what's more closure than death
A loved one's death is usually the opposite closure, silly boy. I wasn't talking from the player's perspective but Cloud's perspective.
>>319572407
Retconned in Final Fantasy 7: Remake Part 3.
>>319572373
As much as milking is generally a negative term, if you deliver in the end then at least we know you're doing your job, that there are still people on the team who are passionate in their work.
But if you milk it and are delivering mediocrity at best, it shows that you don't care about the thing you're doing.
>>319572756
>it shows that you don't care about the thing you're doing.
Not necessarily. It can mean you're just incompetent at doing it. Toriyama is a mighty example of this.
>>319569638
Incorrect. More than just the English version said Aeris. The French version had Aeris
>>319572968
Toriyama is the George Lucas of videogames, and I mean that in the flattering sense. He is a great ideas guy that NEEDS someone in charge to rein him in, or he'll become too self-indulgent and ruin his own projects.
After all, Toriyama is behind a lot of the fans' favorite scenes in VII, like Cloud-chan.
Bigger question, will they taint the remake with Crisis Core shit?
I wouldn't mind a flashback gameplay event or two where we play as Zack, but if they throw Genesis and shit then I'm out.
>>319573174
Crisis Core? I don't think so.
AC? Oh you better believe Kadaj will be a secret boss.
>>319572756
I'd like to have your optimism my friend, but everyhing square made since ff9 was very bad, story wise at least.
I do not think that splitting a game into three will make it better or more "in depth". It will simply mean that what would have been in one game will get stretched needlessly to fit 3 highly marketable products.
And Square-enix is litterally the Blizzard of JRPG
>>319573280
I loved the story for FFX. The religious feel of the game was amazing.
>>319563853
posting this dumb horse should be grounds for a ban
>>319562439
Is that what the dumb fuck said? Someone fire that raspy smoke-chaining dub "actor".
>>319573280
>I'd like to have your optimism my friend
Someone around here has to
>but everyhing square made since ff9 was very bad, story wise at least.
I enjoyed the stories of X, XII, and the Drakengard series (which was more Cavia, but they work under Square).
>And Square-enix is litterally the Blizzard of JRPG
No that's Banpresto
>>319573390
I liked dynasty warriors 4, but both game were shit
>>319573135
I thought the title of George Lucas of video games belonged to Kojima.
>>319574062
I think the people who say that haven't watched too much of Lucas's filmography and only think of Star Wars.
>>319573747
I will never undertand why some people could like X
XII was "what could have been great: the game" but failed in every possible way in its execution. Their horrible story was saved only by the gameplay at least in X part.
Drankengard was mediocre gameplays wise but I'll admit that it had a good story.
But great games have great everything, like NieR.
Then again maybe its just that ff7 remake is too big a thing to simply be an honnest attempts at gamemaking and not a corporate cashgrab
Remember that devs are actually quite low on the food chain and most dont deserve half of the shit they get.
>>319574569
I was quite young when FFX came out so I suppose I'm still a little blinded by nostalgia. For what it lacks and what it does wrong I forgive quite quickly mainly due to how much I loved the game back in 01.
>>319574569
>I will never undertand why some people could like X
It was many people first Final Fantasy. That probably overwhelmed them as kid/teenager.
>>319574569
>I will never undertand why some people could like X
It was my first FF. I played PC before I was given a PS2 for christmas when I was 15.
>>319574569
>Remember that devs are actually quite low on the food chain and most dont deserve half of the shit they get.
This. Keep in mind that for all the coroprate shit going on in the company, the devs themselves probably are trying to make the best remake they can. The question is if they can get the time and money they need to do it. Devs get screwed over by corporate all the time.
>>319567813
Gaylord.
>>319575334
>Devs get screwed over by corporate all the time.
That narrative lose some strenght nowadays though. All you gotta do is look at kickstarter, Early acess, Tim Schafner and Star Citizen. Say what you want, but publishers keep them in the leash. And those leashes are clearly necessary.
>>319575734
yeah now devs screw you directly
>>319575734
Tim Schafer is not the same as most people. That guy has never been trusted with money, even back when working at Lucasarts.
Developers are not publishers. They know how to make games, they don't necesarily know how to use money on them.
>>319575734
eh. only some devs.
and even then, you could still blame publishers, who feel threatened by such things, and push to make everything in the industry more expensive for everyone.
>>319575985
We should forgive publishers then. Poor guys don't know much about making games and thought it was good enough.
It's clear the devil is not Publishers or Devs as a whole. It's just lack of creative talent. We can pinpoint names of reference in this industry exactly like we can with movies directors. Games also should be read withing the auteur theory. Why are Bioware games so shit in comparison to yesterday? How can Bethesda keep printing money? Why Obsidian still makes gems?
Well, Bioware has no big creative name behind them that we can pinpoint as a good reference. Videogames are just suffering from lack of creative talent. We need good directors.
>>319576642
because retarded fan will still buy those game and then try to rationnalize why they did
>>319569638
I have the greatest hits version for Playstation and the manual says Aeris.
Either way, if they kept the ability to choose character names, which they almost certainly won't, problem solved
>>319563132
Go back to the KH steam M8
>>319562439
>>319572146
is that the bullies from power rangers
