Okay, let´s talk about KOF XIV real quick.
I think this game, it´s reception and it´s overwhelming effort represent a problem in the fighting game "community".
I honestly think KOF XIV is bastly superior to Street Fighter V or even Blazblue in terms of effort and overrall love for a franchise.
I know the graphics look bad for our current standards, and i would be lying if i said otherwise.
But look at the good things that KOF XIV has.
50 characters at launch, 60 frames per second godly gameplay, amazing animations for each desperation attack (Nothing compared to Guilty Gear Xrd, but still. Look at Kula´s desperation attack. Pretty cool.), colorful stages, etc.
Maybe this generation just focuses on graphics a little bit too much.
And yes, i´m mexican.
>>319556698
If you compare it with XIII, it looks like a major step down, it does not look vastly superior to it, it looks like a cheap cash in
>and yes I'm Mexican
What's the significance?
>>319556698
>those graphics
>bad
what the fuck are you smoking?
it's not as cartoony as SFV but in NO WAY are those graphics bad.
>>319557152
I agree sfv might have good graphics but the art direction is so putrid so it's pointless
>>319557152
I love KoF but this looks like a render from the first Tekken Tag Tournament
>>319556873
It has almost double the characters.
>>319556974
The steriotype states that only mexicans and brazilians like KOF.
>>319557363
>>319557152
Check the comments section of any KOF XIV video, they compare them to PS2/Dreamcast graphics.
>>319557373
>>319557623
they'r ejust retards who shit on anything that isn't SFV
>>319556974
Type KoF2002 on Youtube
see the results
Fuck I miss 2k2
>>319556698
The only good looking thing is the texture of the jeans. Everything else looks like ass.
>>319557779
I basically went to PS Experience just to play KoF. It was great, but game still looks like shit. Also jumping now feels a bit floaty for whatever reason
Since when were graphics an important aspect of a fighting game?
This is why nobody takes the fighting game "community" seriously.
>>319557373
>>319556698
No, that is ass. Those graphics are bad. But don't care about that because KOF has ALWAYS looked sort of bad compared to the rest up until 12 and 13.
And what's better is, the gameplay seems a bit improved over 13 because they ditched the HD meter for some of the old shit back.
>>319558087
Since at least july 2008
I'll be ok with these graphics if they have decent online for once. XII and XIII where terrible to play online.
>>319558087
Check the comments in any KOF XIV video or in this very thread.
>>319556698
>bastly
Opinion disregarded
>>319558087
When they decided not to do 2D sprites.
>>319556698
I'm going to buy and play the ever loving shit of that game, doesn't make it any less ok how these graphics look.
Like, I get it. 50 characters. They don't have time to work the kinks in all models.
But the texture work is bad.
And the modelling is atrocious. Iori and Kyo Kusanagi look nothing like they should look. Andy looks like a bad Virtua Fighter 4 knock off.
Chang looks fine.
Kula looks fine too.
They can do better and some models already look better.
Others are train wrecks, like the propotions of Leona's model, who is even more fucked up when you see Angel's ok model.
NO ERAS PENAL
Why did they give up on sprites? Have they stated why?
>>319558834
Expensive and time consuming for a studio that has neither money nor time
>>319558834
Expensive as shit to get the XIII quality ones and they'd have to at least get 20 new characters done going by the roster they have and the changes to some existing characters.
>>319558947
Also most of the artist left after xii didn't do so well and snk had to do more pachislot games
>>319558710
Si era penal, pendejo.
>>319557373
Oh my god. Is that Andy?
Mother of fuck.Gonna use my Fatal Fury niggas regardless but god damn.
>>319558087
Has there even been a fighting game with really shitty graphics for the past 6 years? It's not something that you ever see people complain about because I don't think there has ever been another instance like with KOF 14.
I'm not disagreeing, I think graphics should be the last thing people complain about for a fighting game. It does matter for the casual audience though. The people that have actually played the game think it's quite good from a gameplay perspective.
>>319556698
>50 characters at launch
What's the standard, like 12 fighters? I'm actually impressed.
>>319559251
>gas regardless but god damn.
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>>319556698
KOF XIV does not look good at all. In fact, it looks like shit.
The only good thing about this new game is the gameplay, the gameplay is still solid.
They still have time to refine the graphics
I'm normally not super into graphics, but this is unacceptable.
i play kof and enjoy it, but let's look at this
5CD now does wallbounce - weird (probably not good)
looks fucking awful
no extended maxmode combos for a week (good)
floatier jumps (bad)
50 characters (good)
anything im missing
i wouldn't say im excited for 14 but it seems like a step in the right direction
The new KOF looks like shit.
But that's besides the point SNK has never done 3D right.
Ever.Pachinkos don't count.
>>319560007
Just Defend
>>319560453
you know this is me nitpicking but that is the broadest term ever conceived. It's closer to something like instant blocking than JD (motw at least), but nice catch
>>319557373
Problem with that is, that people who played the demo noted how different characters have clearly different amount of detailing and finishing done and Andy's winscreen model was among the worst in the bunch.
I can admit that even the best of the bunch didn't look spectacular, but delivering a point using that picture, is kinda silly.
>>319556698
I can't stand the fag face of kyo and iori, I miss since kof99 when your teammates were on the background, anyways Ive played almost all kof series and have a good time.
>>319560676
I haven't seen any gameplay with it being used yet, so I just assumed they meant it was like motw, but I mostly play GG anyways so instant blocking isn't really anything new to worry about. Also, I think the blowback wallbounces are counter hit only.Personally, I'm excited as fuck to play angel since I thought she was gonna completely hit the bricks like most of the NESTS group so 14 is definitely on my buy list.
>>319561232
>I miss since kof99 when your teammates were on the background
I think the teammates are in the background this time. I saw a pic with Iori versus Kyo and in the background you had Billy and Chang
How's that KOFmoba
>>319561468
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0su_Tzp31U
>>319556698
That shit doesn't look like Kyo
>>319556698
>love for the franchise
I guess, since the game looks like it literally has the same gameplay as all the other ones, no new tech at all and all characters have exact the same moveset.
Me, I call that quick cash grab. The shit graphics sure doesn't help.
>>319558087
Graphics are an important part of every video game, stop being dense.
>>319561596
What the fuck
>>319556698
Tekken has superior limb-based combat
>>319562110
We really need to bring that back here.
>>319556873
>If you compare it with XIII, it looks like a major step down, it does not look vastly superior to it,
Graphically, you're correct.
Gameplay wise, you are not.
I like XIII and think amongst the EVO 2012-2014 entries, it was the most "honest" for lack of better way of putting it. However its combofest gameplay keeps it from being the superior KOF. In that regard, KOFXIV is definitely a step up without losing the aggressive rushdown style that KOF is notorious for.
So the leak is real and we're getting Tizoc right?
If so they can't possibly screw him up right?
>>319562639
the leak has high chances of being real now
but we don't know for sure yet
>>319563321
Even if the leak came from real source, things can change during development.
>>319556698
i would buy if i had a ps4 but since i have a__pc___i might have to wait a while but if simultaneous release pc+ps4 and it has great gameplay [i hear it does] i wouldcancel my preorder for sfVin a heartbeat
>>319559756
kof in general had loads of characters
kof 94 had 24 in compared to super turbo[also came out in 94] with 17
>>319563558
Characters are usually set in stone, since merchandisers need to know what to make.
>>319557623
>double the characters
That doesnt make a fighting game good. One of my main issues with Tekken is the insanely bloated cast. Eventually you start seeing fighters with very similar fighting styles like Christie and Eddy
Why do the short hops look so god damn floaty?
>>319556698
>50 characters at launch
That sounds *incredibly* bloated for a fighting game.
I remember disliking newer Tekken games because of the huge amount of character that all act and play largely to specific fighter archetypes.
And above all, it's not just that the graphics looks really bland, boring and bad. It's that is a FUCKING KING OF FIGHTERS GAME that looks awful. Seriously, XIII sprites were fucking spectacular, the absolute best in the business.
They went from those beautiful sprites that put 3rd Strike to shame... to this.
I'd say the reception to the new graphical style is very solid.
>>319564283
All of the jumps look floaty.
>>319564283
>>319564863
Supposedly the jumps aren't any slower themselves, but the front flip the characters do during a jump is slower, giving an illusion that the jump itself has been slowed down.
http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/comment/10496706/#Comment_10496706
>>319564820
blame sprites on how it takes years to make a few new characters
>>319564094
Does it really matter if there are characters who play somewhat similarly.
Allows people to pick between them based on looks and the little differences.
As long as there isn't huge issues with cast balance and the game isn't matchup fighter, I'm fine with it.
>>319564094
This being kof they are usually pretty good with character variation.
>>319563879
>merchandisers
>for KOF
heh
NO SHEN NO BUY!
>>319564820
You sound like you played KOF13 for 5 minutes. KOF has always been the worst looking of the other SNK fighting games in terms of graphics. Just compare Garou and KoF99. It was acceptable because it always had a huge fucking roster, also throughout the whole series (aside from the shitty kyo clones and the kyokugen characters) almost all of the characters play differently
>>319564820
>>319564094
look guys if you are doubting the character verity tryor piratekof02 it has 66 characters of them there are least 5 'clones' 3 of which are literal clones [kyo 1 kyo 2 Kusanagi kinda]
ryo and Robert other than them every one else plays different
>>319565282
they are still making the mai statues anon
>>319557373
I lurched over in pain laughing from that tweet.
it's funny though cause I just told my bro that the new KoF looks like promo trailers art for a 2002 Dreamcast game and I'm OK with that
>used to play a lot of SF2
>only managed to play Ryu and Ken
>start playing KoF around 2002
>all plays like Ryu or Ken but they can do different shit with the inputs
KOF is great, I hope the gameplay is not shit in this one
>>319566502
They'd make Mai statues regardless. They made them when she fucking wasn't even in KOFXII or XI. Mai is just one of those characters who get high merchandising value because of who they are.
SFV
Roster: SHIT
Gameplay: SHIT
Graphics: TITS
KOF XIV
Roster: Excellent
Gameplay: Excellent
Graphics: PS2 tier, but Kula is cute as fuck
Only a fool would choose SFV
Why does the OP mention Blazblue?
You got my hopes up for a second.
>>319556698
Can the graphics get any better? or is it always gonna be shit? Is there a model in the game that is actually DONE?
>>319567534
Okay, I'll bring up a Blazblue comparison.
Blazblue
Roster: SHIT
Gameplay: SHIT
Graphics: SHIT
Waifufag pandering: A lot
>>319559247
She is Mature
>>319568546
i don't think the game will look as good as it's promotional art, but its getting better every video
