Thanks for the beta test, consolefags
PC got best version, again!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_fWOkrCO70
>Graphics have been painstakingly recreated by veteran character designer Kazuko Shibuya, bringing the world of FINAL FANTASY VI to your PC for the very first time!
>Updated controls and active-time battle system are optimized for fluid combat for PC
>Includes Steam achievements and Trading cards.
I don't use the word "triggered" often, but the graphics of the mobile version of VI definitely trigger me.
Like holy shit.
>>319506639
>Trading cards.
And Steam ruins another timeless classic.
>>319506639
Are these the same Game Maker quality graphics that got shit on a few months back?
>>319506639
>Best Version
>Port of the shit-ter iOS port
Good job, pcu.cks.
>millions of Japanese games get half assedly ported to PC before any games I actually want to play are either ported or made at all
Why is this allowed?
>>319507004
I never got to play the snes version of ff6. Could you point out why the graphics trigger you?
>>319507106
>>319507169
>>319507004
What's wrong with it?
>>319507332
See
>>319507354
If you can't see the problem here, I can't help you
I played it on anthologies, don't really need to play it again.
Why won't they port over Dimensions? At least that's a game most people haven't played.
>>319508284
Warriors of Light and Darkness is fucking amazing, it's what FF4-2 should've been.
I hope they will one day port it since the mobile version has no controller support.
>>319506639
That version is fucking garbage, just emulate the GBA version with modded music and pallette
>>319507354
HOW DID THEY MAKE IT SO BAD
HOW
HOW
>>319507004
I have the same problem with the PSP ports of FF1&2
GBA sprites looked just fine but then the PSP ports looked atrocious
![Blitz-FFVI-iOS[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/kKDOzR1.jpg "Blitz-FFVI-iOS[1].png")
>>319506639
THANK YOU SE.
YOU HAVE DONE IT AGAIN
Why didn't they just get Matrix to do V and VI remakes like the DS ones with low-poly but still nice looking models that reflect the official artwork more?
>iOS version
>>319508947
More effort = more money = less bucks for Square
>>319506639
stop embarrassing us OP
>>319506639
>FF6 will never get a remake beyond mobile in your lifetime
>>319508947
That sounds like work nigger, fuck that shit, just shit out the laziest port possible and get those nostalgiabucks.
>>319508947
That would take more work than simply porting the iPhone version to PC
They didn't do much work on this. It's not like they made a new game.
>>319508947
the DS remakes are fucking horrible
>>319509106
>>319509065
Yeah, but they did it for the fucking After Years on iOS.
>>319506639
I don't know. It looks really bad.
Kinda like that mobile version.
Also FF VI has been in PC along time ago with emulators so this isn't really a loss for us.
It's more like you're playing our old stuff. Like a little bro given hand-me-downs. Secondaries with 2nd hand games.
>>319509076
Do you want it released in episodes like 7? Apparently that's all they're capable of. Something happened in 2015 where AAA developers are no longer capable of producing a full AAA title
>>319509123
I'm talking about back when they did them on iOS
>>319506639
I really hoped VI was going to be different
VI is my favorite in the series and now Square has ended it. Fuck this world.
>>319509183
This is more like mobile phones giving pc secondaries scraps
>>319507354
Honestly, I only object to that font.
>waah it's not pixels
And machines are no longer toasters. We live in the future now.
>>319509229
I actually legitimately think there may be a crash in coming years.
We're never going to see something like the original video game crash again, but we might see one on a smaller scale.
>>319509249
Selective. They didn't remake 1, 2, or 5 in 3D either
I'm not sure what made them decide on 3 and 4
so wait did they fix the graphics or are they still the same mobile crap?
>>319509316
>And machines are no longer toasters. We live in the future now.
Makes you wonder why are they still using art that only works as pixel art and not a fully 3D game like they did with FF3.
>>319509343
I hope the mobile/pachinko bubble bursts harder than fuck.Fucking Konami
>>319509229
>something
AAA games cost a soul, and unless they hit GTA-numbers in terms of sales it's literally not worth trying.
>>319509365
DS.
DS screens and resolution were too small for a 2D remake.
>>319509430
It's exactly the mobile version, ported to PC so probably the only difference will be the UI and control inputs
>>319509123
They did more work than they should have. Laziness by just straight up porting the SNES version without graphical changes would have been preferable to what they did. It's literally the same thing as this in principle and execution.
>>319509365
3 and 4 were remade in 3d because it was on the ds and low poly 3d was all the rage for a handheld
They made after years ios 3d because it would be weird if the first part (port of ds game) was in 3d and the second part wasnt
>>319507354
>pukinganimegirl.bmp
>>319507354
I hate Square so, so much.
V and VI are my two favourite FF games, and they're also the two that currently lack aqny kind of definitive version. The SNES versions have mediocre translations and some weird bugs along with lacking the pretty cool content added in the GBA versions, the PS1 versions have load times and even worse translations somehow, the GBA versions have lower resolution and much lower-quality music even with the patches, and all the new versions have these fucking awful graphics. You can't fucking win.
>>319509316
I would buy this even though I own it on snes ps1 and gba already if I could mod the sprites to theold ones.
>>319509740
Dodger makes me want to vomit
>>319509525
That picture is a perfect analogy for the graphics.
How could you possibly make a 20 year old game look worse?
>>319507354
Unpopular opinion time.I've never liked Amano's artwork. The chicks look like dudes, and the dudes look like chicks. They all have a weird, androgynous look, and it weirds me the fuck out.
>>319509992
>hey all have a weird, androgynous look
Nomura did the same thing to be honest family
I've never played this, or any Final Fantasy before, and I always hear this is the best one. I think I'm going to buy it, shit sprites be damned. May God have mercy on my soul.
>>319506639
>X and X-2 announced for PC release
>XII remaster on the horizon for console, soon to PC then
>still no sign of IX
and nothing of value was lost
>>319509505
>DS screens and resolution were too small for a 2D remake.
but a gba version was fine?
>>319509525
>painstakingly recreated by veteran character designer Kazuko Shibuya,
i kinda feel bad, the old lady and the old designer clearly has best interest in mind but has no skill to do it
>>319509952
Final fantasy VI still looks good though. Yeah, the chibi overworld shit is dated but the actual spritework on the bosses and shit is amazing
>>319509992
That's why I don't like modern Japanese art in general. Anime was a mistake indeed.
>>319509992
I like some of Amano's stuff but your opinion isn't that unpopular, a lot of people can't get into it. Even if I like some of his characters, I usually always prefer the ingame versions.
>>319510123
Or you could just, you know, play a superior version for free.
>>319507354
>woah, hey guys
also what the fuck is up with all the down syndrome looking sprites god fucking damn they look like shit. it looks like they didnt give a fuck at all.
>>319507354
It looks like fan art on deviantart.
FFVI is my favorite FF of all time and I want to support it, but it looks like Squeenix went out of their god damn way to make the sprites look as shitty as possible and clash with the rest of the game's art style
>>319510237
b...but the company survey said the kids love popcap style sprite!
Why is the SNES version not on the 3DS or Wii U virtual console? Pisses me off, I'd buy it in a heartbeat there. The only way to buy this game nowadays is this ugly mobile version.
>>319510651
Final Fantasy sure is what all the kids of today are playin kek
>>319510703
PS1 version is on the PSN though
>>319509992
I've always been a bit mixed on Amano. As an artist I think his stuff looks really interesting, and I think his creature designs and a handful of his character designs are pretty cool. I really like the original Warrior of Light from the first game's cover, for example.
But when it comes to a lot of his work on Final Fantasy, particularly the SNES titles, I don't think it's that good or fitting. His tendency to make almost everyone look like a wispy. waifish albino regardless of their actual characterization is extremely annoying, and his portrait art just doesn't really mesh well with the rest of the games' aesthetics. A handful of his character designs stand out as great, but by and large I don't think his signature style works that well for FF, and the whole albino sameface tendency hits the casts of V and VI particularly hard.
There's a reason that a lot of people tend to envision FF characters based on their sprites and not Amano's artwork - see how much fanart of Faris still depicts her with the long purple hair instead of the wispy blonde ponytail - and I tend to do the same.
>>319510848
>the only way to buy the game is the shit version
>but the vomit version is available too!
>>319510941
Whats wrong with the PS1 version?
>>319508892
>>319507354
BRAVO SQUEENIX
>>319509447
Are you suggesting people wouldn't cry equally big, dumb bitch tears because they changed it to 3D? Look what happened when they OBJECTIVELY improved the models for the FFVII remake!
>>319511010
Load times and translation.
>>319506639
>Graphics have been painstakingly recreated by veteran character designer Kazuko Shibuya, bringing the world of FINAL FANTASY VI to your PC for the very first time!
Absolutely fucking disgusting. I'll stick with bsnes.
>>319510912
are Faris and Garnet the only characteres that he drew with mismatched color hair?
Garnet has blonde hair in amano art for some reason aswell.
So whats next for the porting line? FFX? FF1 and 2? FFIX?lolFFXII?
Im guessing one and two to complete the original nes ff games on steam
>>319510703
Fucking hell, I'd even take the GBA version at this rate and I've refused to buy Fire Emblem and Golden Sun on the Wii U out of principle
>>319511226
He drew Terra with blonde hair and Bartz with white hair.
>>319511231
FF X supposedly got leaked the other day in a database for steam.
FF1 and 2 are fair game since they could relatively be ported with ease.
FF9 never got a PC release like 7 and 8 and they lost the assets to it so it would have to be built from the ground up and squeenix isnt gonna do thatI dont want them touching it anyway
12 is pretty much same boat as 9 but has a slightly higher chance I would say.
>>319508892
well that's one way to nerf sabin
fucking lol
poor VIfags
>>319509992
>>319510912
I think Amano is okay as CONCEPT ART, like it was originally. He came up with all sorts of mystical crazy looks and such, and as something to then give to applied artists to give them ideas and get their creative engines revved up I think it worked out alright.
But that was because it stayed purely in the conceptual realm, it does not fucking work as the actual final product. I think it's yet another example of the mistakes that can be made when somebody goes back to something old and "improves it" with "latest technology" but fails to grasp that the LIMITS of the original medium and tools were key to the original creative process and final product. People didn't fall in love with these games because of the weird concept art that 99% of buyers never say anyway except maybe on the box or in a magazine. What mattered was what was in the game. Altering that to try to mash in other stuff tends more often then not to fail miserably.
A classic (at this point) non-vidya example would be Lucas with his horrible digital remasters of the original Star Wars where he mashed in tons of stupid shit that just cluttered everything up because TECHNOLOGY and of course absolutely everything about the prequels. But the same phenomena shows up again and again.
>>319511226
He's done some other one-offs like his Garnet art where his art just doesn't match the design at all. Sometimes for characters that he designed in the first place, for some reason. He has an obsession with giving everyone incredibly pale hair or something.
Faris is the only one I can think of where the sprite isn't even remotely close to his design though, and Lenna to a slightly lesser extent. Apparently because he makes literally everyone wispy and blonde, but the sprite artist needed to make the party member sprites look distinctive/fitting for the game so they basically ignored his designs when doing the sprites.
sqaure did it again, the madmen
>>319508892
OK, I WAS SERIOUSLY WONDERING THAT WHEN THE ORIGINAL MOBILE PORT WAS RELEASED
HOW THE FUCK DO BLITZES WORK
DO YOU MOVE YOUR FINGER AROUND AND HOPE THE SHITTY TOUCH SCREEN ACCEPTS YOUR QUARTER CIRCLES OR DO YOU TAP THE ARROWS LIKE DDR FOR SENIOR CITIZENS
PLEASE TELL ME THIS ISNT CARRIED OVER TO THE STEAM VERSION
IF I SEE THIS, THAT'S AN INSTANT REFUND
>>319511802
>IF I SEE THIS, THAT'S AN INSTANT REFUND
Wait, you're actually going to buy this?
>>319511659
I really like amanos art and have been trying to find a scan of his book that came out a while back since I cant justify paying that much for it in my head, but I do think the artist were completely correct in doing so.
Some of his stuff matches up really well though like Cyan.
why on earth would you play anything other than the original snes release??
>>319512090
because the GBA release is better
>>319512090
the GBA version was better.
>>319512090
gba rom with patches has more content.
Also the only version I touched was the ps1 port until like 2009 because thats the only one I had and the load times werent even noticable to me.
>>319512090
GBA is better but be sure to install the music patch because the audio quality is atrocious.
>>319509740
stop posting felicia day you autist
>>319512390
this isn't felicia day, this is the video game midget
>>319512090
Because every FF ports on GBA are perfect and better than the original releases
>>319510238
>Amano artwork
>comparing to modern anime
Holy fuck kill yourself, you don't need to like it, but don't compare it to the shit that's shown off today.
>>319511016
is that some rena ryuguu?
>>319509229
personally i would like a 3ds version akin to the ff4 remake on the ds.
>>319511426
>lost the assets
How the fuck is that even possible with a game of that scope???
>>319513053
hard drives get thrown out and lost
Pretty sure the same thing happened to kh1 and for the ps3 port they had to reverse engineer it
>>319513053
>Late 90s/Early 2000s japanese devs
>not losing assets
pick one
>>319513208
>>319513053
Squeenix literally lost the OG PS1 FF7 code
>>319513053
For some reason Japanese devs are prone to getting rid of source code. For instance the PS4 version of FFVII is a port from the PC version which is turn was reverse engineered from the disc version of the PS1 version because the source code was pretty much immediately thrown away after the game was finished.
id rather play the game in 16x resolution on retroarch bsnes cycle accurate mode
>>319513306
That is weird as fuck
POST YOUR FUCKING FACE WHEN THAT LIST THAT LEAKED HALF LIFE 3 TURNED OUT TO BE CONFIRMED TRUE.
>>319513574
>Literally less than 30 days until two thousand and sixteen
>Even caring about HL3 anymore
>>319510079
Nah
>>319513306
I can barely bring myself to delete old reaction images, I can't imagine deleting source code you spent months and months on
>>319513574
it had the guilty gear game and ff6 on it some im inclined to think this time it could be legit
>>319513574
I'm actually kind of interested in that EDF game if that's actually coming to PC. Pretty much the only one of these Japanese games that I actually want to play.
>>319513053
Oldish-fag developer (in my mid 30s) though not in vidya. Things were really, really different in the mid-90s (let alone earlier) anon. Asset control systems basically didn't exist in any real formal way. Storage space was EXPENSIVE, often bespoke and non-standardized, poor durability, etc. Yes, there were ways to do decent archival with high quality tape, environmental control, and so on but it was not a no brainer. And a lot of companies were not thinking about long term value at all, it just didn't even occur to them that it would matter. There was this whole massive scramble mentality, everything changing and moving so fast. Nobody saw the kind of environment we've got today develop, and everyone assumed that when you were done with something you were done, not that it would be something you might want to work on again 15-20 years down the line on utterly different platforms.
So it was REALLY common for companies to take media that had been used for a project and simply write over it and reuse it for a new project. Or stick a lot of stuff on some shitty medium and literally throw it in the janitor's closet where it got forgotten about and had a pipe develop a leak over it so that when somebody tried to find it again 6 years later it was under a layer of mold (yeah I saw that one personally) etc etc. Remember zip drives? Jaz drives? The former had some lasting power, the latter tended to eat data and they weren't alone.
It was a total mess. Some companies did preserve assets for various reasons, sometimes stuff got saved by sheer luck (some dev took it home with them and found it later), but particularly on consoles a lot vanished for good. Even on the PC there are lots of games where we have binaries but the original code & assets no longer exist. Real flaw in the development of digital really, copyright should have required source/asset submission as part of registration.
>>319513732
Literally both of those were confirmed before the leak.
FF6 iOS port was talked about a week before, and a week before the leak Xrd was on a Korean rating board for PC.
>>319513574
Who cares? Half life 2 was complete shit
>>319513686
I have a soft spot for Eraqus
I had to compare a picture of Sakaguchi when I saw him and it blew my mind. Had a smaller scale even happen when I saw the eraqus/square and yen sid/disney thing though
>>319513686
Why do people want Amano's stuff directly in vidya again?
>>319513998
Well Nomura started Eraqus is based on Sakaguchi so
>>319509165
III and IV are fantastic, the fuck are you talking about
>bringing the world of FINAL FANTASY VI to your PC for the very first time
Are people really this retarded?
>>319514557
Well they can legally say that now.
i take it the only people in this thread are morons that are to dumb to download a rom and play it on an emulator
>>319507092
>something that has zero effect on the game somehow ruins the game
>>319515304
>playing worst version
Kek
>>319507092
W-what. Of all the many, many MANY things utterly fucked about a PC-port-of-the-iOS-port and THAT is what you pick? Consider suicide.
I regret buying FFV on steam.
The gameplay is fine but god damn the silhouettes that pop up when the characters speak look ugly as sin.
>>319506639
I'm not a fan of the graphics but how is the version of the game? The American SNES version is pretty easy, are there any add-ons to this version or difficulty changes?
>Yes goy, jews fear the samurai!
>>319513574
way to misunderstand the entire situation, it's far more likely an indie dev named an in-progress project Half-Life 3 on the database as a joke, do you not fucking read, what are you people even good for
>>319506639
SNES/PS1 version is best
>>319507354
That iOS port was fucking bad.
>>319518450
why
>>319506639
>consolefags
I wish.
You could just easily emulate the GBA version ya know? The version that the diehards call the "best" version as you say.
>>319516764
I heard they fixed lots of balance issues in the ios version
So PC version should be even better
>>319511802
>>319506639
It's literally the tablet version running in a fucking wrapper what the fuck do you think is going to happen?
>>319510237
That's the most painful part. The updated monster sprites in these games are utterly GORGEOUS compared to the RPG Maker backgrounds and characters.
>>319515354
>What are hats and achievements in TF2
Try again.
>>319507354
Goddamn this looks like some photoshop mockup shit.
>>319507354
>>319524483
That's completely different
>>319524483
>Things not included in gameplay are the same as things included in gameplay
>>319513686
This feels like cherry picking. Or is that the point?
>>319524483
You realize that TF2 is a multiplayer game where other's choices (to use hats or not to use hats) effects you while in a single player game you hold all the cards.
>>319511231
FF11 is getting ported to mobile I hear.
The MMO is getting ported to mobile.
>>319514019
Even if his faces aren't that varied, his style is very appealing, and could make for some great visuals in the right hands.
Too bad, nobody but fucking Clover knew how to try and represent animated "art" in games.
Nope, anything cel-shaded is either shoddy as hell or plastic looking
>>319527860
Not really, I'm afraid.
>>319507354
>no art direction
Biggest problem with all these new 2D games, and really, pretty much every 3D game. I mean, all the textures are drawn at different resolutions, which makes them all look out of place. The style of art for everything looks like it was all done by independent artists first and then they all put their work together without the thought of whether it would all fit nicely first. Honestly, it all looks straight out of old RPGMakers.
>>319509076
>people wanting remake
no
>>319513686
Does Nomura have a hard on for older men?
Fucking SE.
If they just continued making the handheld remakes we wouldve gotten FF5 and maybe FF6 this gen on the 3DS, and then we couldve gotten a proper basic remake of FF7 for the next handheld gen.
But no, we're skipping those two and only release shitty mobile versions and then completely ruin FF7 by making a different game from the start.
>>319506639
Chinks don't even have PCs for gaming, they're all keked by consoles right?
My sides
![(C59) [Saigado] The Yuri & Friends 2000 (King of Fighters) [English].png](https://i.imgur.com/hhf6vsq.png "(C59) [Saigado] The Yuri & Friends 2000 (King of Fighters) [English].png")
>>319511426
>12 is pretty much same boat as 9
>one of the biggest vidya corps
>losing assets in 2006
>that cost countless years/millions to develop
>already had this happen with FF7/FF9 6-10 years prior
>>319529235
Nomura has a hard-on for older men and pretty youths, Yoshida for asses and little boys, and Amano just copypastes the same albino tranny into every artwork.
>>319529661
>>319511426
SE has the FFXII data. IIIRC the chief localizer even said they still have the uncompressed audio, too.
>>319529910
>SE has the FFXII data
That anon should feel bad for making shit up, then.
>>319512390
>felicia day
wat
>>319530167
>caring about the actual names of d-list internet celebrities who make dumb youtube videos
>>319529824
They're not ALWAYS trannies!
>>319512390
lol'd
WHERE THE FUCK IS TACTICS? It's the only port that they didn't fucked up.
>>319513778
>>319506639
>mobile version
these new graphics look like ass
>>319533575
Better than ps1 and snes at least
>>319513686
This is bullshit. The Nomura section cherrypick mostly either old outdated styles for him or grown old men, who are really more grounded and serious.
Classic Nomura is a 12 years old character with clown sized shoes, a Sora sameface and more belts than needed. TWEWY is essential Nomura.
>still uses flat mode7 graphics for flight
>>319536532
You don't know what cherry picked means
There is 32 examples each side
There is characters from old, recent and upcoming games on his side, those are his typical type of characters
Teens and kids are completely atypical from him, just because they are the protags don't make them typical, especially when he creates far more older men characters than young pretty boys
Pretty boys and androgynous characters is the typical type for both Yoshida and Amano
Anytime they do men is completely atypical for them
>>319538832
>in PC version it's a skill and not a combination of buttons
>>319506639
> finally, the game
>19 years later
Have fun, fatfuck.
>>319536532
Name at least ten Nomura's 12 year old characters that aren't from KH (because that series is literally meant for small children). We'll wait.
