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What the fuck were they thinking?
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Gamers love eating shit. People will whine about it being the mobile version but I can guarantee you it;ll top the sales chart and people will be posting about it here.
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>>319467770
Probably? Did people buy the other mobile ports?
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What's wrong with this version? Seems fine to me.
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This is one of my top 5 favorite games of all time and there is no way in hell you could get me to touch this weird looking thing.
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>>319467579
I don't actually hate it, but the fonts are a bit bad.
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>>319467862
Yes, they're overpriced as fuck relative to anything else on mobile and people bought them.
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>>319467579

>What the fuck were they thinking?
That the hardcore FF fans will buy the same game for a fifth time just because it has the Final Fantasy name on it.
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I thought this already came out years ago? Was it just the shitty phone version before?
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Is it just the mobile version? If I've never played before, would it be acceptable?
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>>319468556
No, it's completely unacceptable in every way from butchered sprites to butchered text. Just emulate the SNES version, or at the very least the GBA one with music patches.
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>>319467770
you mean casuals
now people on steam who couldn't figure out how an emulator works can enjoy that retro cult classic everybody kept raving about and totally up their nerd cred
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>port of sqeenix's awful iOS remake that used LOWER-QUALITY, ass-ugly new sprites

it takes skill to fuck up like this
honestly considering sqeenix's history of shitting the old Square final fantasy games up, it shouldn't have come as a surprise they'd figure a way to fuck up the FF7 remake
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damn I was just thinking yesterday how much i'd want a Steam version of FFVI and they do this...

FFIX PC port when?
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That Celes sprite is kind of cute.
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>>319470145
>FFIX PC port when?
Never. They lost the assets a long long time ago.
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what exactly makes final fantasy games fun?
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>>319469196
True casuals won't play this game. Too old.
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>>319470145
emulation

>>319470419
I wonder what the remake will be like.
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If the game looked like this when it first came out, everyone would still like it.
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>>319467579
That for 0 effort they can port something to steam and it'll instantly print money like every shit port that hits steam?

I wonder why they would think that.
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>>319470984
the sum of all its parts.
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>>319467579
Holy apologist batman!
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>>319467892
It looks like hot ass
>>319468121
>Was it just the shitty phone version before?
It is
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>>319467579
It would be better if they did literally nothing.
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>>319470419
>They lost the assets a long long time ago.
Source?
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I don't get it, why would i buy or play this now when I've already played it years ago
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I don't get how anyone can look at that screenshot and think "this is fine, I will release this on the public."

I don't get how anyone can look at that screenshot and think "this is fine, I will buy this product."
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>>319473920
They mentioned it when they mentioned they lost the assets to the Kingdom Hearts games. Until recently, deleting source code was a common practice in Japan. It's why FF9 never got a PC port in the first place.
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>>319473494
Jesus christ, is there a corner of the Steam forums that Seraphna hasn't plagued?
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>>319474101
Strange, since 7 and 8 both had PC ports.
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>>319473824
Looks fine to me.


>>319473864
But this looks a thousand times better than the same image in the OP.
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>>319474045
In case you feel like reviving your past.
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>>319473824
SupereagleX100.jpg
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>>319474368
Because they ported them before they lost the assets.
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>>319474259
>Seraphna
Who?
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>>319467579
>releasing an iOS rerelease of a port of gameboy color rerelease of an SNES game
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eh, I'll enjoy replaying it on PC
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>>319474372
>Looks fine to me.
Are you fucking blind?
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>>319474531
Somebody who shitposts on dozens and dozens of boards. Seemingly every board on Steam I've ever visited has at least one topic with Seraphna saying something insufferably stupid.
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>>319474101
>deleting source code was a common practice in Japan
Why

Why would you EVER do this

>>319474368
Both of them had really old pc ports
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>>319474082
>I don't get how anyone can look at that screenshot and think "this is fine, I will buy this product."

today's braindead gamers look at it go "oh wow finally an hd version!"
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>>319474503
It took them like six months to do the port for ff8 though. I think it's more likely that they just didn't want to port ff9.
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>>319474045
Because some people like replaying games?
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>tfw never played this game before and this is the only readily available version since I can't into emulation
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>>319473824
Top looks like it's at high noon. Bottom looks like it's during the night.
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>>319474538
When the hell was FFVI ever on GBC? Come to think of it, were there any GBC FF games? I know there were "Final Fantasy" games on the Gameboy, and ports of actual Final Fantasy games on GBA, but GBC? I didn't think there were any, but I was too busy with Dragon Warrior I-III and Monsters at the time.
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>>319474826
I feel like SE treats FF9 like it's ugly redheaded stepchild
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>>319474765
Not him. I don't know, but despite manufacturing good electrical hardware. Japan's software & IT front is abysmal.
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>>319474551
I'll probably enjoy playing it for the first time on PC.
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We should have got a chunky 3D polygon remake like what we got with 3 and 4.

I don't care if I'm alone in thinking very highly of the style of those remakes.

This FFVI shit just looks really cheap, like nothing works together cohesively. It looks like an RPG maker game where the author has just grabbed a loaf of disparate tilesets and stuck them in one scene.
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>>319473824
>>319467579
Hello Cataract, my old friend.
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>>319475065
>>319474551
You could play it anytime on PC

It's called ZNES or SNES9x
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>>319474765
HDD space used to be extremely expensive so they would delete source code and reuse them. Japan finally stopped doing it like 10 years ago.
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>>319474993
because it is
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>>319474765
I know, I bought both the PS1 and PC version of 8 when they launched.

>>319474993
Kinda sad, since it's pretty popular.
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>>319475074
>We should have got a chunky 3D polygon remake like what we got with 3 and 4.
Didn't they say they were planning on doing this with 5 and 6
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>>319475065
Snes9x + Final Fantasy III.smc don't be a fagit
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>>319467579
goddamnit why would you sell the worst version of the game?

why are so many retards going to buy it and think ff6 sucks?
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>>319475143
>It's called ZNES or SNES9x
For fuck's sake at least use Higan or Mendafen.
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>>319474368
Those PC ports were made back when those two games were new. Updating an already existing PC version for current hardware is a lot easier and less time/resource consuming than making a PC version for an old game that never had one in the first place.
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>>319475264
>Higan or Mendafen.
Who and what?
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>>319475264
Higan is the successor of BSNES?
I've been out of the loop
not the original anon btw you were replyingto
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>>319475074
>It looks like an RPG maker game where the author has just grabbed a loaf of disparate tilesets and stuck them in one scene.

So it looks like the typical 2D FF game then?
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>>319475379
The only two SNES emulators that function properly.
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>>319474765
>>319474101
Call me ignorant but is it possible to reverse engine the source code from the finished product?
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>>319475264
I cannot understand whatsoever how to use Mednafen or any of those "all console" emulators. i just wanna run an exe and open rom/iso and thats it, i dont get any of the shit involved with others
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>>319475470
ZNES and SNES9x work fine for me m8

Don't know what you're talking about
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>>319475513
Yes, but then it wouldn't be a cheap port and that's all companies are willing to do for PC.
>>319475549
Download the mendafen GUI and it functions the same as any other emulator. Or get BSNES.
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>>319475513
It might be, but doing that just to port an old game takes more time and money than it'd be worth. See>>319475273 for why VII and VIII got released on Steam.
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>>319475624
Yeah, and next you'll say VLC works for you. "Works" and "works properly" are two very very different things. It's literally the same amount of effort for a worse result if you download shit like zsnes and snes9x.
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>>319475648
>>Yes, but then it wouldn't be a cheap port and that's all companies are willing to do for PC.
How much work would reverse engineering the source code actually be?
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>>319475769
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>>319475769
media player classic straight up will not run any file i put into it. and for some reason i have two different versions installed
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>>319475787
Months of work plus the backgrounds would have to be remade from scratch because they're prerendered.
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>>319475787
You try to reverse engineer some code you don't understand.
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>>319475913
Can't really help you there but MPC comes with everything you need now. It should just work, albeit not perfectly without tinkering.
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>>319475769
next time compare vlc with mpc without the bloat ;)
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>>319475787
PCSX2 is 14 y.o. and it is STILL far away from being even "good" on technical level. It probably will never be properly reverse-engineered
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While we're on the subject of classic JRPG steam ports, how is the steam version of Ys? If it's shit, which version should I emulate. There are like a million versions of this across a bunch of obscure platforms and I have no idea where to start.
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>>319475913
>media player classic straight up will not run any file i put into it.

how?? it supports everything out of the box with zero configuration.
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I only played IV on GBA, and my battery died before I finished it. I enjoyed the game but I got stuck. I checked a guide and apparently I was about 30 levels below where I should have been and thats why my boypussy was getting stretched.

Really fucking weird the battery died considering some of my original Gameboy games haven't died out yet.

Anyway what I'm basically saying is I am in the market to buy the game again or emulate it.

After seeing that horrendous 3d screenshot on the Steam page and that $15.99 price tag I am going to fire up BSNES.
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>>319476058
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>>319476091
If it was shit it wouldn't have very positive
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>>319476091
Its good

Based on an existing pc port
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>>319475513
Yes, at least for the game code. For most of these games that's actually not the problem.

Rather the think of the sources for the art assets the portraits and backdrops in games. Without the originals it's impossible to get them in higher resolution without re-drawing them which as you've seen has mixed results.
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>>319476202
The SNES version is great, gba version is good as well. The only advantage that the DS/Steam version has is some pretty cinematics and voice acting.
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>>319476091
It's great, beat both of them and had 0 problems.
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>>319476091
It's pretty good.
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Fan-made mod that replcaes sprites with SNES variant's incoing in 3... 2.. .1..
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>>319475769
Too bad VLC, shitty as it is, is still the only halfway decent video player.
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>>319476202
The PSP version comes with the sequel if you care about that kind of thing.
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>>319474642
well you never said which was fucking which
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>>319476536
Good thing half decent is pointless when you can just get perfection with MPCHC.
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>>319476536
Nah VLC is a last resort emergency situation only kind of thing.

I don't have quite the turbo autistic hatred other people have but its certainly not anything I encourage using.
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>>319475769
What if it's vlc that has the correct image
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>>319476536
>still the only halfway decent video player.
>mpc-hc
>not the best, simply the best
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>>319476346
>>319476428
>>319476478
Alright, thanks senpai.
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>>319476091
Haven't played any of these games, would you recommend ?
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>>319476091
The steam version is the best. It includes both chronicles and eternal artstyles, you can change in the menu
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>>319469196
>now people on steam who want to support Square can enjoy that retro cult classic everybody kept raving about and totally up their nerd cred
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>>319476520
Did they do that for the FF5 port that's also on Steam?
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>>319476772
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/37299
Do you not know anything about calibration? VLC was literally made to stream shitty web content to your desktop without needing flash. That is its only purpose.
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>>319476691
it's too bad mpc is complete garbage without addons. but you're a sheep and just assume there's nothing you can do to vlc to improve it
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>>319473824
Top honestly looks far better, and I love me some pixelshit.

Being able to make out details in things is nice
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>>319477194
MPC comes packaged with MadVR and LAV splitters. You can't download it without either. Fuck off retard.
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>>319475769
I don't understand this picture. MPC gets a wider mouth for that fraction of a second and that's somehow infinitely better than VLC, to the point where others have to be ridiculed for not using MPC?
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>>319467579
"We gonna make LOADSAMONEY."
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>>319476202
How about the PSP version
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>>319477431
The colors are all fucked up in VLC because VLC can't into gamma properly. Even if you go out of your way to fix it in driver settings, MPC has better upscaling and uses resources.
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>>319474259
>>319473494
>>319474687
I wish ill will upon this person
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>>319477431
B8 or colorblind
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>>319477138
No idea, but honestly, FF5 isnt that popular and well-loved compare to FF6.

FF6 will have mods I bet.
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>>319473494
They person seems HELLBENT on defending this game at all cost
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>>319475769
VLC looks better and more natural. The contrast in the left image is ridiculous and the eyes look purple.
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>>319477431
>>319477739
So VLC is just ever so slightly duller and this makes it absolute trash?
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>>319476658
I reiterate

Are you blind?
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>>319477892
>veteran
well, that explains it
old man, weak eyesight, dribble hands
such is the quality then
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>iOS port which was based on the GBA version that had scenes removed to get a lower CERO rating

Literally the worst way to play it.
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>>319477138
I wonder how something like that would look, really, since the sprites in the FFV port are much larger than the old-style sprites in the SNES original or GBA port
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>>319477953
is this you in >>319477892 's image? I mean you seem hellbent on being retarded and/or blind.
>>319478003
VLC doesn't display subs probably. It can't display layered subs. It uses more resources. It has fucked up colors. It does not skip from one point to another properly. VLC is made for flash video from the internet being streamed. VLC just plain sucks.
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>>319478121
FOR THE UNCUT!!!
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>>319477326
>>Being able to make out details in things is nice
Then why the fuck would you like the top? You can make out more details in the original.
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muh sprites
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>>319478072
>man

The issue with the sprites is the shitty anti aliasing they applied to them, if they were left pixelated they'd look acceptable.
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>>319477717
I mean, he's not wrong about the PS1 port being shit. It's basically unplayable.
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>>319477953
>the eyes look purple.
They ARE purple you colorblind fuck
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>>319478121
>had scenes removed to get a lower CERO rating
What?
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>>319478501
Celes' torture and implied rape.
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>>319473824
to be fair that's probably the best background in the SNES version. put the two water backgrounds together and the new version looks much nicer, same for the enemy sprites. especially on a 60" tv.
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>>319478501
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjEEeWfxFAU
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Never played this game before. If I avoid this release then how should I got about playing this game the best way?
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>>319478584
>implied rape
There's no such thing in this scenario. The scene removed was that the Imperial Soldiers were just beating her up. In the GBA port of FFVI, this was removed because of a recent murder case so they didn't want to offend anyone, and if it's gone in the iOS/PC version then that's a sure sign which version of the game it's based off of.
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>>319478853
Emulate SNES
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If the combat is as shitty as it was in the mobile version then fuck it. Those portraits at the bottom of the screen do not work for games like ff6.
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I think the sprites would look better if they turned down the color on them, they look too bright and stand out too much and not in a good way.
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>nobody posts screens from battles
That's where the power of the touchscreen mobile device design is at its fullest.
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>>319467579
Money.
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>>319478954
Or emulated the gba version after applying patches that restore proper audio and colors.
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>>319478926
>Violence is rated very strictly in Japan, much the same way that sexual content is in the U.S. Presumably they wanted a CERO A rating for the Game Boy Advance version in Japan, and you cannot get an A rating if a game depicts violence against a restrained human being.

http://www.rpgamer.com/features/insidegaming/tslatteryint.html

Weird that attempted suicide is a-ok though.
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>>319479114
Looks like fucking garbage
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>>319479114
Those monster look surprised as fuck.
"I may be a horribly malformed skeleton with tumors that has no legs and a twin brother that hangs out with a muscular giant rat with horns and spikes, but this wizard is freaking me the fuck out."
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>>319478292
Proper AA doesn ot cause shitty blur. What I see makes me wantto vomit and go visit ophtalmologist to check if I have cataract.
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>>319479498
The enemy sprites are literally the only thing that's ok about those iOS ports, though. Too bad they stick out like a sore thumb with those backgrounds, character sprites and rpgmaker tier interface.
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>>319478375
Your logic baffles me. I say they look purple. You say they are purple. So how does that makes me colorblind because according to you they're the color they look like to me.

The point is that they're obviously supposed to blue like they are in the right image, because purple eyes aren't real.
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>SNES has cycle-accurate emulation
>people still buy mobile-port trash of old square games
To what end?
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>>319479342
The attempted suicide remained even in the original SNES version, but then Nintendo had a habit of slipping back then. Remember Breath of Fire II?
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>>319479114
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>>319479745
>character is designed with purple eyes
>all iterations of said character depict her with purple eyes
>"they should be blue because purple eyes aren't real"
>bringing realism to an anime where people have strange physical features

wot
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>>319479778
>implying you needed autist level of emulation accuracy to enjoy those games
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>>319479745
Because ITS SUPPOSED TO BE PURPLE NOT BLUE YOU STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT
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>>319479906
I'm trying but all I remember is a garbled mass of Engrish
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>>319478072

>kazuko
>man

normie get out reeeeeeeee
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>>319479906
I don't recall anything going on with BoF2. Care to fill me in?
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>>319475513
Yes, it always is.
It won't be easy though and it's going to take literal ages.
But it's possible.
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>>319473824
but the top version is objectively better looking
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>>319473494
>These sprites are more than twice a size than their original forms on SNES
What part of this is impressive?
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>>319480601
you're taste is objectively shit
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if you ask me i'd rather just play FFRK
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>>319480921
That's why nobody asks you.
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>>319479957
>>319480074
I have no idea who this character is as I'm not a fucking loser who watches anime, but if they're supposed to be purple that's fucking retarded and VLC is doing her a favor by making them blue.
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>>319480787
nah, I just don't have my rose-tinted glasses on
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>>319480334
Downright creepy demons, an evil church (explicit religion was a big no-no), explicit death, curses (albeit minor ones like Damn and hell and such), a catgirl with no pants, people being driven to madness and insanity by said evil church along with a mob attempt to fucking lynch you, etc etc

All the game really got off with was a nymphomania pun name getting altered, and a horrible translation
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>>319477818
>FF5 isnt that popular
What have you been smoking m8
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>>319481089
You don't HAVE to know who it is or watch anime to tell that its fucking purple you fucking dumbass
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>>319481185
>compared to FF6
I love FF5 to death but he's right.
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>>319467579
>>319467770
>implying a high resolution remaster isn't objectively better then the original
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>>319481502
>remaster
hardly
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>>319481502
A remaster isn't the same as taking a Sharpie and tracing over something.
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Wow nice.

Same file.
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>>319481674
Oh really?
I thought I remastered your mom last night, but I guess I'm wrong.
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>>319481502
Not if the asset quality is painfully mismatched and topped off with touchscreen interface.
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>>319481772
You thought you traced my mom with a Sharpie?
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>>319481290
On the left is purple, on the right is blue. How am I supposed to know which one is correct without prior knowledge of the character's eye color?

The one on the right looks better, simple as that.
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>>319481725
did you open the mpc file while vlc was reading it you fucking retard?
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>>319481725
LOL It's hysterical that you think that your argument is somehow proven by that image. All you've shown is pic related.
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>>319481954
Its still purple on the right you fuck
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why didn't they just give 6 a DS remake like 3 and 4?
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>>319482076

Oh yeah that's exatly why!
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>>319467579
It means that the leak was real and X-HD on Steam will be a thing.
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>>319482324
>3
It never had a port/remake/whatever before the DS version was made
>4
It's more popular than 6 in japan.
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>>319482324
6 had a 3DS remake considered but it never happened.
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>>319482552
Anyone with half a brain could see a FF6 port coming.
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>>319482552
No fucking shit X/X-2 is going to come to Steam eventually

Anyone with common sense can tell you that
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>>319482259

oh dont worry i fixed it

well i am surprised, there is indeed a difference. The red on the flag is much better on MPC.
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>>319482320
Now who's colorblind? Hint: it's you.
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>>319483206

damn

vlc is washed out as fuck
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>>319483275
Nope

Still you

You colorblind fuck
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>Don't care much for either sprites of snes or ios vi
>immensely hate the battle ui

And I don't even mean that its the mobile port ui. I mean FFV ios' was easy to use and clear as far as ATB was concerned. This one is pretty annoying to look at and keep up with since the ATB bar isn't in the UI but the ui itself.
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>>319483635
>literally colorblind
>calls others colorblind
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>>319483471
When people say VLC sucks, they really aren't just shilling.
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>>319484343
Thanks for confirming you're either a troll or colorblind
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>>319473494
>Tell me one thing
>Which is more lazier?
>Porting same version from SNES?
>or
>Reworking all of sprites, portraits and backgrounds?
But Keytee Tamira, that's actually a port of Final Fantasy VI from mobile, nothing has being reworked...
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>>319467579
Why does it look like a cheap rpg maker game?
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I can't believe I'm saying this, but why can't Square do what NISA is doing and allow players to mix and match their favorite assets from the older and newer versions like what they're doing with Disgaea?
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>>319485109
Ditto.
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