>"We had designed it to be a much more accessible product to a wide age group," Jorgensen said, noting that it's one of just a few teen-rated shooters on the market. "So, an eight-year-old could play with his father on the couch, as well as a teenager or 20-year-old could play the game and enjoy it. It is more accessible. And for the hardcore, it may not have the depth that they wanted in the game."
HAHAHAHA
What a shock.
>SW is for kids
No shit.
It's the current year
>>319402097
where were you when gaming is rapidly dying
>>319402097
I have noticed this trend with game dev's.
>we want to make it more accessible for childeren
Fuck I was playing (and finished multiple times) MK, Ghouls n Ghosts and Shadowrun when I was 4. Kids learn they aren't all retards with permanent learning disabilities.
>>319403697
buried deep in ur mums pussy
when i was eight i was playing x-wing, myst, master of orion, SEAL team and frontier: elite II
why can't they be honest and say they designed it for idiots
>>319403758
but she's dead
ACCESSIBILITY
Are they saying that kids were too retarded to play the original Battlefronts? Because that is just blatantly untrue.
Just EA being EA.
>>319403754
Children are too cuddled these days. Anyone remember Rayman 1? That shit was for kids and actually required you not to be shit.
>>319403873
she loved it
>>319403870
>mfw I was commanding armies and winning world wars in Red Alert as an 8 year old
>>319404105
I weep for today's youth.
>>319402097
Where the fuck do they find these people
Seriously, I dont understand how you can lack any business sense at all and make such idiotic decisions like this
>>319402097
>Star Wars is for kids
>Star Wars video games are probably marketed at kids
>"HOW FUCKIN DARE EA MARKET A GAME TO A "NEWBIE CASUAL" GENERATION, I CAN'T FUCKING BELIEVE THIS FUCKING OUTRAGE, THEY SHOULD PANDER TO HARDCORE FUCKING GAMER S LIKE ME GODDAMNIT FUCK EA AND THEIR SHIT PANDERING TO PEOPLE WHO LIKE LE PREQUEL TRILOGY FUCK THIS GAY EARTH, IT SHOULD ALWAYS BE HOW IT WAS WHEN I WAS KID GOD-FUCKING-DAMMNIT
>>319404227
Tell me that KOTOR is marketed at kids
>>319404227
Read the thread jackass
>>319404227
you must be over 18 to post here
>>319403932
>Children are too coddled these days.
Fucking this, problem is kids grow up learning they stop being coddled and demand to be coddled, look at all the sjw, furry trans gay garbage.
>8 year old
>enjoying battlefront
Lol no, between getting constantly raped by han solo and being sniped across the map by a pulse rifle or some dick in an AT AT who probably plays helmetless stormtrooper like a fag, an 8 year old will get wallpapered by this game.
>few teen-rated shooters
Destiny and Halo5 both manage teen-rated without being pathetically shallow ripoffs. FFS the only good battlefield games managed it as well, and these chucklefucks made them a decade ago
>>319404286
KOTOR is marketed at kids.
What now, atheist?
>>319404571
Now I call you a faggot
Faggot
>>319404446
It's always the world at fault and never themselves. Fucking vidya only reinforces this.
>>319404668
You don't need to go there, man. Words can hurt.
>>319404461
I camp the ATST and the only hero i llay as is bobba fett, my stormtrooper is a qt blonde with ponytail.
Bite me.
>>319404924
If words hurt you does that make you immune to sticks and stones?
>>319405157
Life isn't balanced like that. Wait for patch.
When I was eight, I was playing RTS games, and enjoying them to the fullest.
EA is out of touch with reality and thinks people are idiots. What a surprise.
Didn't it underperform aswell?
Guess the CoD/BF shooter is the one thing normalfags won't see get casualized any further.
WHOA VIDEO GAMES LET ALONE A STAR WARS ONE WAS MADE FOR A CHILD?!
WHOOOOOOOA
>>319405446
It seems that it did (but later on EA might say otherwise). It just shows that even normies know when they're being cuddled too much.
>>319405367
People are idiots to be fair. Granted an 8 year-old can definitely understand something more complex than Battlefront with ease.
I feel like he meant to say 4-5 year old for a new generation of Star Wars fans or something.
>>319404147
EA
It was said, again and again months before release - that EA will destroy Star Wars, and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it.
>>319404147
>>319406136
I'm convinced that if EA didn't have a monopoly on sports franchises that they can sell infinitely to dudebros and BRs every year they'd have folded a long time ago
Battlefront is a fucking disaster, though that MAY be due to Disney. I'm sure Disney demanded that the game be out in time to promote the movie, so they rushed this one out as fast as they could and planned to release the rest of the game as DLC, only it backfired. They released it in one of the most crowded months ever and people are starting to get wise to their bullshit.
>>319406136
Well they've only got it for 5 more years, at least Visceral and Amy Hennig are apparently working on a game together.
>people blaming EA for targeting kids
99.9% of games released in the past decade are targeting children.
If someone picks up your game and loses, they will literally believe it is the fault of the game because they are so coddled that the idea of playing a game for challenge is completely foreign to them. Video games are just movies where you push buttons to these people, and they make up the lions share of the market.
>>319406554
>missing the point
You can target children and still release a great game. EA apparently, cannot.
>>319406958
>not SWBTFO.jpg
>>319402097
Someone needs to tell the religious fundie right-wing soccer moms, so they start full-on campaigning for it to be destroyed.
Tell them that the only way to stop kids from playing violent video games is by forcing video game developers to implement a minimum difficulty level.
Voila, we get rid of casuals in one fell swoop and the industry has to cater to the core market's desires for good games containing content again.
>>319403754
>>319403932
>>319404446
>>319404772
I sucked terribly at games.
I was "that kid" who always used cheats to play games unless they were multiplayer, and even then, I'd pull cheese strats or do my best to be a suicidal pest.
It wasn't until my early 20's that I revisited my favorite oldies to sort out the nostalgia.
>tfw enjoyed Streets of SimCity and SimCopter because of cheats
>tfw can't enjoy them now trying to play straight
Fond memories - dead - just like that.
>>319407267
Political meddling is the last thing you want in entertainment.
Market forces in software are pretty unpredictable as it is, and what you propose is like kicking a bomb and hoping it explodes more on everyone else.
>>319402097
This just in: A childrens hobby has products accesible to children
Face it, you're a manchild
>>319408101
Another jackass ignoring the thread
>>319406779
>>319408225
Why is them targeting children the fact that made this game bad?
>>319402097
>DESIGNED FOR 8 YEAR OLDS
Just like Star Wars franchise
>>319404286
The second one is 16 years old, the game.
>>319408020
You're right that it's risky, but soccer moms are already frothing at the mouth over vidya anyway and got GTA banned from target in Straya, so I think since they're already here, might as well get the ones that are already around a direction to fight in that benefits us.
>>319408565
Pretty fucking much.
Ewoks, Jar Jar, other shit about being a special person (A Jedi)
All the stuff that is perfect for kids.
I enjoy it anyway.
>>319402097
>There's only eight year old's and pre schoolers will still buy our product. Oh fuck
>>319403754
At this stage of video game development I really don't think they are even trying to appeal to anyone that thinks anymore of any age group.
Dumb fuks only plz
EA is so stupid.
Younger kids often like what older teenagers are into.
Plus kids like star wars because its F ing star wars! Kids don't want a watered down version they want the whole star destroyer fighter hanger bay experiences of running to your tie fighter and lunching in space just s much as all the other players. SO Stupid!
Also young kids can be very good at gaming too?
Young kids would want this type of experiences in a game just as much as everyone else
For example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN_CP4SuoTU
and
https://youtu.be/eegQI9WM6mk?t=794
>>319402097
That's not even an excuse considering the games kids played during 90's early 2000, it's just says today's kids are braindead.
Also isn't Battlefront rated M or something ?
I'm bored, let's look at some other star wars stuff designed for kids.
I'm sure as a child you dreamed of making your own shitty lightsaber. well with these exchangable parts, which are also compatible with other lightsaber toys, YOU CAN
>>319409981
Make a lightsaber of your own design, anywhere from "pretty cool" to "just fuck my shit up"!
>>319402097
I'll admit I never played the originals but what exactly were you guys expecting? The next counter strike?
it's just star wars lol
>>319410048
No Jedi will be able to counter this fighting style
>>319410112
it's less starwars battlefront and more starwars battlefield
My younger brother and I are 10 years apart. We had lots of fun playing Battlefront 1 and 2 on Xbox when he was under 8 years old. Sure he's part of the tablet generation now, but I'm still proud of him for beating Fallout 1, Stranger's Wrath, and Vanquish.
>>319410140
>>319409981
what the fuck am i looking at
>>319410337
>>319407783
That's because SoSC and SC aren't great games.
Bfront II, though, still is great.
>>319410398
Alec Guinness is spinning in his grave
>>319410398
>>319410354
Haven't you ever thought "Gee if only I could have a lightsaber that is as unwieldly as it is likely to cut off my hand"? Well now that dream is a reality
>>319410536
oy vey
Do you guys think Obama will ever just come out and admit he's aJedi__?
>>319402097
So? You're not the target audience loser. BUSINESSES NEED TO MAKE MONEY YOU FUCKING COMMIE FAGGOT, GO SUCK BERNIE SANDERS DICK
>>319410337
this one isn't that bad
>>319410661
WHY IS IT ALL THE SAME KID
>>319410661
>those two retards with the candelabras
Man, I haven't laughed like this for a while now.
>>319410112
I expected shit because its DICE.
I would have wanted a signature mode I can play on over 10 maps, and a low bullshit shooter.
No infinite impact grenades or helmetless stormtroopers using A280 (rebel) blasters, jetpacks for everyone, retarded vehicle unlocks, lock on rockets
>>319410882
Dude we're just getting started
>>319402097
>And for the hardcore, it may not have the depth that they wanted in the game
This has been true for a looooong time
>>319410661
christ on his fucking throne...
>>319411070
Not gonna lie I would have tried bash my head into wall just for my parents to buy me that
>>319411070
this is pretty erotic
looks like some shit i would have tried to wiggle my dick into as a dumb kid
>>319410661
>Customizable sex toy, or customizable children's toy? You decide with Star Wars Blade Builders!
>>319411070
They couldn't have gotten a less retarded looking guy for the demonstration?
>>319411261
Anything is a sex toy if you're brave enough
>>319411274
dont you fucking talk about Nathan Drake that way
>>319402097
I was pretty young when the first battlefront came out, and I didn't have any problems with it. It isn't like they're tactical shooters; you just shoot shit and capture command points.
>>319411070
>that swastika-saber
holy kek
>>319411070
Does he have an erection at 0:02?
>>319411416
>Swastika Red Saber
>Menorah Blue Saber
I hope some anon buys this shit and posts pics
>>319411070
>>319411619
>>319411416
to be fair wouldn't a lightswastika be really good as a force-thrown weapon
>>319411737
Just get a fucking gun if you wanted you throw plasma at your enemies
>>319411806
But you could control one and slice it through any number of people
this is why Traya was the shit, though she did that shit with regular lightsabers.
>>319411806
Why don't Stormtroopers just run up and surround Jedi instead of shooting them from afar?
Pincer attack and light em up like a firing squad from point blank.
Then why is it rated PEGI 16?
>>319411953
Doesn't matter any parent that watched SW would be fine people dying to colored lights
>>319404227
>marketing a game at a demographic that has no money
>>319404446
nice slycorrect
>>319412445
>kids
>no money
Just think for a second, you retard.
>>319412445
Kids have the most disposable income because parenting in America boils down to buying your kid's love.
Teenagers don't have disposable income because they don't work, and if they do it's for peanuts they either spend on weed or put into savings like good goys.
Young Adults don't have disposable income because they're either a) Paying Rent b) Paying for School or c) Paying for Gas, in most cases, A, B, and C.successfulAdults generally have disposable income, but aren't even a target market for video games period. However, ads targeting adults that imply that your kid's will love you if you buy them their toy have existed for decades.
tl;dr You're a fucking idiot.
>>319402097
Easy to learn
Hard to master
Know this, you should.
>>319410471
Guinness hated star wars, I don't think he'd give a fuck about stupid toys.
>>319411737
>>319404286
I literally played both games when i was 7
it's a fucking kids game cunt
>>319412836
>>319412858
>kids giving a shit about Star Wars
No.
>kids giving a shit about a $60 game, where they're still getting free Saturday morning cartoons
>and with all the Disney Infinity type stuff coming out
>or CoD and BField
IDK, not feeling it. There's no suggestion that the pre-teens are any more of a sale than teens and up. There are also fewer of them.. law of large numbers and all.
>>319412923
It's so homogenized that it's not about mastering the gameplay. If every character is equally as skillful because there's no depth, all characters trend for doing awfully.
Isn't Star Wars way too old for kids to give a shit about it? I don't think the new movie will even change that.
>>319403230
Warm memo.
>original
>dedicated spawns (and only if that point is captured)
>classes have defined loadouts, inhibiting range and other counters in to a single playstyle per
>stamina system
>a roll; there's more than just standing there, and there's depth to getting instigated from behind
>jetpack "stamina" (fuel) that recharges only on the ground; can be conserved in-air by toggling
>air vehicle rolls and boost on a stamina system (4 speeds altogether)
>off-rails AT-AT
>multi-character ships
>remake
>squad spawns, undermining strategy and tactical awareness by allowing spawning anywhere
>no classes; every character can take some combination of unlimited grenades (x2), a sniper, a jetpack, a shield, plus their ordinary loadout; thus, every character can have any range or any playstyle
>no roll; gunplay is just staring at each other unless you have a shield or jetpack; instigating from behind is basically a guaranteed engagement win
>jetpack is like injection nitrous; it's on, then on CD (no conservation)
>air vehicles can only roll and boost on card CD as well
>on-rails AT-AT
>etc.
BfrontII is still the better game without contest. BfrontII has better movements, shooting, maps, OPTIONS for how to go about battles, more heroes, the much needed ability to remove heroes from the map, better balancing thanks to each faction having a solid counter-vehicle to each other, and along with having classes comes seeing more variety in troopers. Not all EU shit either, but imperial gunners, scouts, jump troopers, and commanders are all there.
All the new Bfront offers are touched up visuals and.... air battles? I guess? It's really just an extension of ace combat horizon anyway, which was an awful game.
No roll, no buy.
>>319402097
>8 year olds playing games where you shoot people to death
Kids these days. I waited until I was 9 and a half when I started playing Doom
>>319414007
kids will like literally anything if it's advertised enough
see: minions
I can't remember the last time I bought a EA game. Or played a EA game. Or tried and enjoyed a EA game.
I wouldn't say that I boycott their games, but basically every game they release now is "ALL ONLINE ONLY BUY THE SEASON PASS EXPANSION PACK AND PRE ORDER DLC NOW!", which is something I simply refuse to support. When the day comes that EA makes and releases a game that is:
-Complete in box.
-No DLC
-No Season Pass
-No Expansion Pack
-No Preorder Bonus of any kind ever
-Also has a robust and expansive single player mode
Then I will actually support them.
>>319404227
>Make a game made for kids
>Difficulty has to be press fire to win because the target consumers are retarded.
Not even the first Battlefront was that simple and you could say that both share the same targets (since SW is for kids).
>>319402097
8 year olds played the shit out of the original battlefront games too, cause we weren't retards
How many apparently screwed up shooter games do we need in just one year?
>Battlefield
>Call of Duty Black Ops 3
>Halo 5
>Metal Gear Solid 5
>Fallout 4
>Star Wars Battlefront
You know its a bad year for shooters when Splatoon wins best multiplayer game of the year.
>>319411070
autism sabers
>>319403873
I dug her up and ploughed her runny remains
>>319402097
I mean, it's a fucking Star Wars game. SW is a family franchise. What did you expect? A hardcore shooter for 20 year old neckbeards?
>>319402097
i bought it- and the season pass
it's fun; i enjoy it. i dont feel the need to pour my life into it, so no complaint here.
>>319410210
No.
Any demographic expecting either were underwhelmed.
>>319418161
20 year olds dont have neckbeards
>>319418487
yeah tell that to my 20-never-shaven-before-year-old self
>>319418649
You're the one missing the point.
Content isn't what's being argued here. It's accessibility of the game's mechanics.
I don't doubt it at all, but source?
>>319418487
I did
>>319404286
>Pretends to be a make believe space wizard on his big boy's game'n watch
>muh deep and mature plots mom, you wouldn't understand
>>319404331
So go.
>>319411070
I want to buy two (or at least the parts) so I can build my own /pol/saber
>>319405367
When I was seven I had already completed Paradox's whole Grånde Strategie ouvre on a high end rig I'd built myself, step it up sempai.
>>319404570
>Destiny and Halo5 both manage teen-rated without being pathetically shallow ripoffs.
>>319402097
Star Wars Battlefront: EA open to single-player campaign
EA have hinted that future Star Wars games could feature a single-player campaign following criticism of latest offering Battlefront.
there is an news/PR update. at this point it's all still marketing but who knows.
>>319405367
>EA is out of touch with reality and thinks people are idiots.
well when all you do to get feedback is read twitter and youtube comments, it's not hard to get to that conclusion
>>319409981
That little shit is so pleased with himself.
>>319418736
>Content
>stated nowhere in the reply line
>>319410140
>The JUST sabre, as designed by Coleman Trebor
>>319419340
It is implicit.
The only reason SW Battlefront is garbage is because it has no content. The shooting isn't any better than BF2, but the atmosphere, graphics and sound completely nails it.
>>319410471
Well it's a good trick
>>319410536
>I have two sides, Jedi ham radio enthusiast and twisted fucking psychosith
>>319419453
It's not implicit, because I could list a bunch of reasons it's a really shallow and low quality game.
> >>319414009
>>319410661
>Anakin was not expecting the younglings to put up such a fight, he had to admit, six bladed lightsabres were no laughing matter.
I was in middle school when I come home to see my dad bought me Battlefront 1 and Burnout 3 Takedown for Xbox. 10 years later and EA pulls this "8 year old is too dumb for class based shooter" derogatory remark.
>>319403697
Buy rainbow 6 if you want to help
>>319412836
When I was young I had about 6 games, now I've got hundreds. Most children are going to only get a £50-whatever dollars game like twice a year if they're lucky.
>>319414009
Battlefront was always casual tier reskin of Battlefield
stop your delusions
>>319414009
You summarized my thoughts perfectly.
I beat Rayman 1 without issues as a kid. And that's probably one of the hardest platformers I've played. I can't beat it now since new games have spoilt me and made me shit.
Moral of the story; the dumber you treat an audience, the dumber they'll become.
>>319402097
The first two battlefronts were plenty accessible, i don't know why they decided to dumb everything down even more than that
New Battlefront is really fun and well made. .
>>319420135
Even then, BattlEAfront is way more casual tier than an already "casual tier reskin".Which reinforces the point of the complaint.
>>319419453
How is the company admitting to designing the game for 8y/os implicitly about content?
>>319420135
They play completely uniquely.
>>319419787
>>319420271
>n64 and PS1 games like Crash Bandicoot and SM64
>on PC is Diablo, C&C, Civ II, and Daggerfall
>>319413589
>saturday morning cartoons
Anon, I...
you tell those fagets the truth and they start down voting the hell out of you. Why is reddit full of weak bitch white knights, that don't give a fuck about truth?
>>319422691
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/3vtuul/and_for_the_hardcore_it_may_not_have_the_depth/
>>319422416
You know.. Transformers, a few episodes of Teen Titans, and Pokemon.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>319421798
I grew up on Age of Empires 2. I sucked at it but I still loved it because it was a power fantasy come true.
>>319413384
he meant kids not on the spectrum
they were looking for action games with lightsabers, not turn based shit
