What happened? Why is Japan suddenly putting such a strong push into PC gaming?
>>319398186
>old ports
Easy money
With the success of Dark Souls I guess the Japanese are being aware that there are PCfags that do buy their games
>>319398254
Probably this.
Not that I mind this though.
If the old ports turn out well, it might open the way for new releases on PC as well.
Consoles are starting to die.
Literally tossing you scraps
>>319398186
agony
>>319398186
it's easier and cheaper to port now that consoles are basically gimped PCs
This is how you can tell we've got younglings born in the late 90s/early 00s browsing /v/.
PC always got late ports of console games.
PC got Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, Panzer Dragoon, Virtual On, YU-NO, Ninja Gaiden II (NES) and many many others in the 90s.
It still didn't meant Japan started focused, or will start focusing on PC. It just means they sometimes port some of their games to PC is all.
>>319398186
PCs are much stronger than consoles so putting ports on it is easy and will run well without much effort.
Also putting a game on steam is rather easy so it's fast and easy cash.
And yes they don't put any effort into the ports.
>>319398462
>Game gets PC port
PCfag
>Thanks for beta testing consolefags! PC wins again!
Consolefag
>That game was never good anyway, enjoy your scraps PKek.
>>319398532
There's a huge fucking gap between a handful of NES games and the recent releases though.
>>319398610
The only NES game I mentioned was Ninja Gaiden II.
>>319398608
More like people who aren't secondaries like pc secondaries are about to move on to the newest game being released.
But be aware that this is primarily aimed at non-Japanese PC gamers.
Sega, Bandai-Namco and many of the other Japanese publishers block their games from being sold to Japanese steam customers.
So it appears that they're not particularly interested in building a domestic PC audience.
>>319398510
They've always been gimped PC's, just with limitations, fuck stupid operating systems, and retarded shit like DA CELL
>>319398186
I think its cheaper to put a game on steam than it is on consoles. if i remember correctly you have to pay for the devkits and whatever bullshit fees consoles have such as updating. steam has a large install base and it puts the developers at ease since its a form of DRM
>What happened?
they found out how easy it is to do digital publishing
physical publishing was just not worth it for niche titles
finding an overseas publisher to cooperate with wasn't worth the meager income
>>319398186
Costs of porting to PC are small, because no licensing fees, no mandated QA, no publishers required.
Japanese ventures into the PC market are getting increased attention from the west, which translates to decent sales most of the time.
PC sales are still typically smaller than console sales, but it's basically free money so why wouldn't they?
>>319398186
It's just scraps, Dragon Quest 11 will never be released on PC
>See OP image
>Read OP
>Immediately open steam and search for Okami
I feel more disappointed than I really should be.
>>319398680
To be fair Japs mainly use PCs for porno games and shitposting on 2chan.
>>319398186
Is japan the ultimate pleb and casual nation for not being interested in pc gaming?
You can put out a completely phoned in half assed pc port, and people will still buy it and fix it themselves. Just look at Dark Souls. It was basically unplayable without a user made fix, and people still bought it up.
To be fair the west does this all the time too. I bought Dead space during the halloween sale and just tried to play it today and its literally unplayable garbage.
>>319398186
Old ports are piss easy money and they realize PCfags eat this shit up. They're so fucking starved for weeb stuff they'll buy even the shittiest game.
>>319398907
Nah, mobas and fps are for casuals.
Japan is number 1 at Fightan/JRPG/Rhythm games
>>319398680
Seriously, why the FUCK do they do this?
What's the fucking point of blocking PC release (or any other platform really) in your home country?
I just can't think of any reason to pull off shit like that.
>>319398186
>>319398680
ARE THEY GOING TO PORT SUPER ROBOT WARS PC
That's the only series I cared when it comes to console gaming
>>319398680
My best friend is Japanese and he tells me that brand recognition and brand loyalty are concepts that are taken to much further extremes there than they are in the west. I'd assume console manufacturers like Sony and Nintendo have a vested interest in maintaining their status as virtually the only game platforms.
wut? japland is lazy as fuck with pc ports. i'm happy to get some games i enjoyed but werent on pc like dw empires, doa, but they (and all other recent jap ports) are like ps3 versions at best. they put 0 effort in and purposely gimp things.
>>319398707
>They've always been gimped PC's
except now they are actually using pretty standard hardware so shit like Cell is no more
>>319398969
Impressive bait. I am actually seething
10/10.
>>319398608
Always.
>>319399054
Because they don't want Japanese consumers to start buying games for 5$ or for 20 cents in a humble bundle. They want them to buy the console version and actually support the product. Sega and other companies use their western studios that don't localize games to port them to PC later, they don't want Japanese fans to wait for a PC release and kill their sales.
>>319399134
But Japs are the best at fightan and rhythm.
They can also speedrun dragon quest 1 in an hour, it's fucking insane.
The west is casual as fuck, assfaggots and csgo are for babies
>>319399195
But VC PC port is like a thousand year later than the original release. They're not gonna lose money on it, they can only profit from selling more copies to PC-exclusive gamers in Japan, however few.
>>319399340
They're remastering the game for PS4 early next year. Could see that being the reason for it.
>>319398969
You mean mobile phone gaming? The absolute most casual thing there ever has been
>>319398254
>old ports
Like Tales of Zestiria, Dragon Quest Heroes, TitS EN or Guilty Gear Xrd?
>>319398186
They were told boogie man stories by Sony about how their stuff wouldn't sell.
Devs like capcom and FROM took a few chances and made dosh so the rest followed
>>319399436
Nips are still king at arcade and console gaming.
They'll even whoop your ass at phone gaming on the side
people took the risk, and make shit tons of money for it.
People like making money so now other developers are following suit.
And Neptunia getting into steams top 10 sellers shows theres easy money to be made
>>319399340
And they're selling a full priced remaster on PS4 in 3 months. PC gaming prices would kill the Japanese market over night.
Japan discovered STEAM existed, and it also means they won't have to deal with anybody but Valve for foreign licensing.
>>319398257
This too. Prepare to Die had some amazing sales.
>>319399546
The average Nip has a toaster computer, PC gaming will never be big other than for mobas/fps
>>319399546
But Steam has regional prices implemented, doesn't it? SEGA could've as easily set a separate price for Japanese players instead of outright blocking it.
>>319399054
Nationalism. Japs aren't stupid like some poorfag westerners who buy consoles. Give them access to cheap superior version of all jap games on the freedom platform with potential mods and it WILL take over. Sony wouldn't profit if that was the case. The companies also want to milk then with selling them remasters and other shit
PC gaming is cheaper. You can build a PC fpr $300 that can run all modern games faster than any gaming console.
>>319398186
Both the PS4 and Xbox One are x86 PCs. They are basically AMD laptops running custom operating systems. So once they develop a game for the PS4 or Xbox one the basically have a PC version too.
If it's not much extra work and a little extra profit why not?
>>319399437
Xrd is very much a late port and TitS is from 2006.
>>319399870
You still don't get to play console games though. Persona 5, Bloodborne and Dragon Quest 11 will never come out on PC
>>319399797
Then they wouldn't get feedback on the new game.
>>319399754
And the Japanese game developers want to keep it that way.
>>319399059
>chamber
Heh
>>319399059
If it doesn't come out of Japan, it won't come out on PC.
>>319399837
>Japs aren't stupid like some poorfag westerners who buy consoles.
yes they are
>>319399870
Nice lies
>>319399437
I can't say anything about Tales, but like other anon has said the other two are kinda old
>Dragon Quest Heroes
A lot of Warriors game has been ported quickly to PC, that one shouldn't be too surprising
>>319400078
Ok you're probsbly right. The gamers there seem to get ripped off a lot and they just keep accepting it. Kinda why the pc taking off there is a threat. Japs have less control outside of Japan so they put it on steam for easy sales.
I remember one nip complaining about a jap game that had a superior steam version with more content that he wanted but couldn't get. Forgot what it was
>>319398680
Wow Sega just hates every region.
If they only would actually make decent controls of their port.
Forcing you to use a controller just to play their pc version is one thing, but when the control quicksheet/menu shows only controller controls, it feels like they literally doesn't give a fuck.
>>319398254
>easy money
>expensive PS4 license and development
>limited 100% nippon expert console programmer
>mobage is chewing console section in japan
>nitendo grip weakening
i think the gaming console in japan is in pretty dire situation
>>319399870
>two shitty JRPGs made for casual babies and an action game with RPG elements and horrible framerate
I own a PS4 and it's just a Bloodborne machine.
>>319400159
AMD's APUs are great value for their money. They even run Fallout 4 smoothon medium settings and no AA.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HNgsdC
>>319400583
>buying an APU now when Zen is around the corner
Jim Keller left his last will and testament in those cores before he went to become a god in Valhalla. Please just wait.
>>319400583
Yeah, no, that won't consistently match consoles.
>>319400276
There has been a trend shift, no doubt about that
It could turn into like anime industry, with publishers/devs getting most of the money from dedicated fanbase or certain niche
>>319400276
it is, and partially because of inflexible business men, which japan is known for
>>319400712
>Buying X now when Y is around the corner
>>319398373
Arguably this. Xbone and PS4 sharing the same architecture with PC means multiplatforms and porting are easier than ever.
>>319399837
Dude Japs basically exclusively game on consoles. It's common for 20-something year olds in Japan to not even know how to operate a computer. Japanese developers will never organically support PC for various reasons, Sony in the west plays a different ball game than in the east. In the west there is a large pro-consumer movement among gamers and it's part of the reason why a lot of good developers left PC and the reason why it hasn't got any first party titles or proper developer and third party support for AAA games.
>>319404079
They do a lot of gaming on the go with mobile and at the arcade. Still a wonder why internet cafe's never took off there.
>>319398538
>And yes they don't put any effort into the ports.
That fucking FFXIII port, man...
Yes, I acknowledge that I'm a retard for buying it, and that I got what I deserved.
>>319405661
Internet cafes are huge in Japan, just no one wants to play video games on PC by themselves like a lifeless drone.
Arcades and mobile let you meet up with friends
>>319398373
Consoles have never been more alive than now.
>>319399054
Maybe they had a deal signed in Japan where VC would be a PS3 exclusive there.
>>319398186
Release game on consoles, make the major bulk of money.
Release games on PC much later where it doesnt matter if it gets pirated as long as some fools pay.
>>319398532
>PC got Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, Panzer Dragoon, Virtual On
I never could understand why Sega first-parties ported games to PC when they had their own consoles.
>>319398532
We are seeing a mass exodus to the PC right now.
>>319408561
>>319398373
This, the PS4 is burning up with how many games it's getting, but at the cost of them going to PC too instead of staying console exclusives
this will ruin the console atmosphere when in 2016 almost every game is on PC and people no longer want to buy PS4s
I predict more games will have cross-platform multiplayer out of desperation by the end of the next year
I welcome it. Nip games best games.
>>319409053
False. Most people still prefer playing on PS4 over PC for multiplats. For Sony, it's not a big loss.
>>319409114
Serious question: why the fuck does she have a flower growing in her eye socket?
Peashy master race
>>319409181
>False.
You sound like Dwight Schrute you massive autist, this is what people who think people prefer inferior multiplat versions think
>>319409192
Because Taro Yoko is an idiot.
>>319409252
>PC Engine
>>319409192
It's a magical parasite basically. Grants host immense strength and regenerative capabilities,but will turn into a grotesquerie queen eventually
>>319409449
PC Engine is the master race yes
>>319409342
You are still wrong. Multiplats sell much better on PS4 and it will become even greater in PS4's favor in 2016 as the install base grows drastically. Tgis is why Sony gives no shits.
>PCfags really think well-off developers are going to risk losing such a huge profit through piracy.
>>319409534
They sell much better on PS4 for now, I already admitted that, but the fact that they ARE multiplats is what will doom them in the end. They're inferior versions, they can't compete with 4k or 100 fps
>>319409587
>doom them
lol. Normies don't care about that shit. Not to mention most people on Steam are using even weaker shit than a PS4. Multiplats benefits all. Sony prefers two multiplats over one exclusive title.
This is largely a push into the western market, don't mistake it for Japanese consumers giving a shit about PC games. There are two major reasons why this is happening:
1) It's far easier to publish on Steam now, and there are more companies like Playism that specialize in bridging the language barrier on the business side. This is especially true for indies, where many small Japanese developers have wanted more western exposure for a long time but could never reliably communicate or do any dealings outside of the big players like Sony and Nintendo. Getting your shit translated into English, no matter how small, has always been prohibitively expensive in Japan, but now there's an emerging market of translators in the West who offer rates that are less than extortionist, which is simultaneously dumbfounding and wildly attractive to Japanese developers.
2) They have become completely enamored with Kickstarter and crowdfunding in general despite having virtually no understanding of how it really works. The concept of people just coming together to fund projects of passion as an alternative to the once mandatory publisher structure speaks overwhelmingly to the side of Japanese society which is desperately trying to rebel against draconian bullshit like Konami's business model and the salaryman stereotype in general. Early on they were just flinging themselves headfirst into it without knowing what they were doing, but now they're easing off.
>>319398186
Besides a few new games most are old games ported over which makes sense.
I'm more surprised by Sega bringing over a new Yakuza 0 within a year of it's Japanese release instead of forgetting about it for 4 years like Yakuza 5. Maybe they'll finally bring over Phantasy Star 2 online.
>>319409750
The Muv-Luv kickstarter was a big hit. Same for Shenmue and Bloodstained. They seem to be ok at it.
>>319409797
Sony's probably supporting the localization of the game, like they are for Yakuza 5. That helps.
>>319409750
Just like Japanese gamers don't give a shit about smart phones right?
Times are changing, anon. Consoles are old and busted.
>>319409743
>Not to mention most people on Steam are using even weaker shit than a PS4
you're running off 2012 stats, the pc master race meme only got to the normies recently, it'll show up in next survey
besides, the people who don't use weaker shit already outnumber all PS4 users
>>319409953
PS4 is selling better than PS2.
>>319409896
Good for Sony then. Now if someone would convince those fucks in Japan to ship Phantasy Star Online 2 over.
>>319409853
Like I said, they've eased off. MN9 cemented this idea that KS makes you an automatic millionaire, so shit that started around that time like the La-Mulana 2 KS initially had stretch goals in the millions despite never having a prayer of reaching that. Now they're getting more help from gaijin to help set that stuff up and temper expectations.
>>319398186
Because it's a lot easier to open steam and click "Upload" than it is to build an office, hire about a hundred staff and set up a whole division to manager your over-sea operations.
>>319409953
Well, no, they don't. JP gamers mostly are on handleds and PS3/4 nowadays .
>>319409953
Japan will forget about smart phones next year when all the games for PS4 come out. Sony will pretty much take the market away from Apple in one sweep. The growth of smart phones is only in the single digits now meaning the market has saturated.
>PC only gets console games when the console market is weaker than ever
>>319410026
>besides, the people who don't use weaker shit already outnumber all PS4 users
I really doubt it. 30 million PS4 owners exist. Meanwhile the biggest games on Steam are shit you can play on integrated cards. Even then, multiplat sales will continue be in PS4's favor as PS4 sells faster than PC GPUs.
>>319410137
Also, mobile is a high-risk venture. Publishers prefer safer bets, like HD games. The smartphone meme is overblown by /v/.
PC is great platform for niche titles.
>Not being an idort
>>319399059
Does steam ever release untranslated games like this?
I like this trend very much.
>>319410336
>PC is great platform for pretentious indie shit.
Fixed.
>>319398186
BECAUSE GABEN IS LOVE, GABEN IS LIFE.
EVEN IF THESE GAMES DON'T COME OUT, WE'LL JUST EMULATE THEM 5-10 YEARS LATER
>>319410429
They did like 2 weeks ago. Japanese language only game but still purchasable outside.
>>319410306
No, mobile is a low risk venture because the development costs are so comparatively low that even if something doesn't sell or become a hit, they can just write it off and move on to the next one. That's exactly why Konami has abandoned AAA games for smartphones, and they're not wrong.
>>319410476
amen
>wider market
>better consumer experience
I don't see a problem here
>>319410574
That's not true. To make a hit on smartphone, you need a massive marketing budget. Bigger than for console games.
Konami went Pachinko, not smartphone.
>>319410526
I meant if game is profitable to release on the west on Vita, you can pretty much easily double it by releasing PC port.
And since it's a platform where games don't become obsolete as hardware upgrades, it's kind of an investment.
>>319410751
>pachinko
How the fuck is selling drugs illegal and gambling is not? They're pretty much the same thing? Not to mention tobacco.
>>319410592
>>319410476
keep posting anime sluts
>>319410908
It's not gambling, you don't win money with pachinko or pachi-slot games. It's no different from an arcade that uses tokens.
>>319410951
Yes it is. You change the tokens, balls or w/e for real money at the cashier two steps away.
Anyway, that's not the point. The point is, people who "play" those machines aren't healthy people, they're addicted and can't not waste money on this shit.
>>319411176
Just a matter of time before Abe closes the loophole.
>>319398186
No, PC push is only because Wii U is reaching the end of its lifespan. They're kinda stupid and thought PS4/XBone will went out soon (people like to think that when a current gen console ends, all consoles in that gen will soon end), but PC has always been there, and will always be there.
>>319411265
>Just a matter of time before Abe shuts down one of the biggest industries in the entire country
Yeah, sure.
>>319409750
They love kickstarter/patreon because those don't get fucked by Japan's retarded 'no donations ever' law.
The one thing Playstation had that kept me with them was the weeb games. Now that that's slowly coming onto Steam, PC+Nintendo console is the only way to go forward.
>>319398532
>what is SEGA
>>319398186
I'm too lazy to look through this shitty thread to see if it's already been said, but the Japanese aren't porting shit to PC. The western publishers are.
>>319398841
I fucking wish
LITERALLY FOR FREE
>>319413269
>revelator
3 years from now, maybe
>>319413350
I believe in arcsys and their lust for easy dosh
>>319398186
Consoles are starting to be SJW territory, there's no more room for lewds, even nep neps will become PC exclusive in the west eventually, the devs are tired of censorship and bullshit, I am okay with this.
>>319413416
Yeah exactly, they'll cash in on the PC market with revelator 3 years from now
>>319398186
>Game came out 2 eyars ago on console
>The price dropped a lot
>"WE SHUDO REREAZE IT ON PEESHEE TO GAIN MAX ¥¥¥¥¥ AGEN, THOSE FAGGETS WILL FALL FOR IT AND CALL THEMSELVES PEESHEE MASTARESS!!!"
Here's why.
>>319399054
Gotta bleed the Otaku for all they're worth.
>>319399945
This. If you make an Xbone or PS4 game, you've also got a PC game.
Unless you're being paid to keep the game exclusive, why wouldn't you port it to other platforms for more profit?
>>319409192
If she dies/gets gored the flower grows and creates her a new body and leaves the other lifeless. It's more or less a cloning face-vagina.
>>319413269
Is she not in -Sign-? ArcSys should've probably waited a few months and just gotten us the latest version.
>>319413651
This is why seeing Nintendo's demise is so great. Fuck their gimmick hardware. I'll never be able to play Bravely Default and MH4U on shitty 240p hardware.
>>319414218
*not on shitty 240p hardware
No but seriously, fuck Nintendo's gimmicks.
>all these shmups coming to steam
>>319398680
Who gives a shit? Fuck them, they're not playing games on PC anyway.
>>319414384
>can rotate my monitot sideways
Glorious
>>319398186
Very easy money. Steam made it profitable and easy to use. Porting is simple these days and with the games being digital it makes it even cheaper. The games just keep selling over and over into infinity and that's just makes it a long term investment that keeps on giving.
I don't mind at all, more games for everybody and more money and recognition for niche companies. Win win.
>>319398680
>セルバリア
(1) is a hero.
>>319413350
>>319413480
>3 years
You wish. They quickened the pace with porting their games.
