Is PC videogame piracy, as we know it, over?
>>319394705
Not really, a lot of devs can't afford it and its not like denuvo will remain uncracked forever.
>>319394705
>denuvo
oh noes muh shitty console ports, oh god what ever shall i do??!!!
>>319394779
>a lot of devs can't afford it
You can also choose not to pay up front but let the denuvo company take a share of your game's income
It's still nowhere near Starfoce which wasn't cracked in any shape or form for over a year.
>>319394705
First of all, Denuvo is extremely expensive for publishers/developers, so no.
Secondly, this isn't the first "major" DRM that threw a wrench into the piracy machine. StarForce was beaten, SecuRom was beaten, Denuvo will be beaten too eventually. SecuRom and StarForce both took like 2-3 years.
>>319394919
>hitman 2016
>deus ex mankind divided
>just cause 3
>fifa 16 and beyond
>console ports
sure thing kiddo
>>319395035
>>319395032
only 0.000000001% of games used that protection unlike denuvo which every dev/publisher is jumping for joy to use (except indie devs)
>>319395159
>which every dev/publisher is jumping for joy to use
You mean the most overhyped AAA shit publishers?
Play in good games for a change.
Everything will be eventually cracked even if it takes from few weeks to half a year. It's not like there's shortage of games.
as long as it people can still mod games and it doesn't affect performance i dont care. i'll take it over another log in service with shitty servers like uplay any day.
>>319395091
Those arr
>>319395281
the only crack group that stood even remotely a chance against denuvo was 3dm and they released a statement last week that they would never crack another denuvo game again when they saw how hard the newest version of denuvo is
it's over
>>319394705
Yea, nobody is buying games with denuvo on it.
>>319395159
The only companies right now in more than 1 game as EA and WB.
Squeenix used it only in Just Cause 3, CI used it only in Lords of the Fallen, Konami used it only in TPP.
And the total of all Denuvo using games is still less than 10 so educate yourself.
EA: FIFA 15, Dragon Age 3, Battlefield Hardline
Warner Bros: Mad Max, Batman Arkham Knight
City Interactive: Lords of the Fallen
Konami: MGS5 TPP
Square Enix: Just Cause 3
That's a total of 8 fucking games.
You're deluded if you think this is in any way shape or form a "threat".
And far more games used StarForce and SecuRom than we have games with Denuvo.
>>319395526
denuvo is already confirmed for a shitload of upcoming titles, open your eyes
>>319394705
Then I just won't touch the games at all and do something else. Maybe instead of trying to stop piracy you give people good incentives to buy your game. Like charging less than usual for a AAA game or tonnes of free dlc and making an actually good game.
>>319395589
Citation needed.
>>319395690
hope you're ready to give up this hobby then
>>319395526
And of all those games only one sold reasonably well - MGSgameworks on most of those and they perform like shit as well
Why do they shoot themselves in the foot?
Say whatever about CDPR but they are right on this at least.
>>319394705
I hope so. Piracy is shit, and people who pirate and distribute software are basically scum who should be beaten with cricket bats.
>>319395393
This is either blatant bait, uninformed, ignorant defeatist stupidity or stealth shilling for Denuvo.
3DM hasn't cracked a single Denuvo game. What they made were three very half-assed emulators that fooled Denuvo into thinking Origin/Steam is still running. And none of them even work properly and require setting timezone to China and are generally broken and outdated.
Their Dragon Age 3 one only works for release version and is unstable and crashes randomly.
Their Mad Max one also only works for release version, is unstable and crashes the second you open map.
Their MGS5 one also is release version only, is unstable, crashes randomly as well as ALWAYS in Prologue and Mission 46 and you can't open doors unless you aim weapon at them.
Meanwhile CPY, an actual scene group (3DM ain't scene, they're P2P), cracked FIFA 15, Battlefield Hardline, Dragon Age 3 (on latest version no less), Arkham Knight and Lords of the Fallen (also on latest version). They also already confirmed they can crack Arkham Knight on latest version as well and are just waiting for the complete editon with all DLC like they did with Lords of the Fallen and Dragon Age 3.
>>319395921
>CPY
>not just stealing P2P shit and renaming it
wew lad 2 obvious
>>319396020
Hm? 3dm didn't touch AK, nobody did
>>319395589
>>319395736
>>319396020
Now I know for sure that you're just shitposting and baiting.
Here's your (You)
>>319395736
why? all denuvo games except arkham kek (which is broken and never be fixed on pc) can be pirated
all denuvo can do is stop day1 or day-1 piracy to bait more people into releae day buy and preorders, but those people weren't going to pirate in first place so they're literally losing more money than just letting the game out with no copy protection at all
>>319394705
As long as russians and the chinese have access to the internet, no.
>>319396110
Arkham Knight after patches right now is objectively better than even PS4 version provided you have a card with at least 3GB VRAM.
>>319396110
you can pirate AK, what are you on about?
So what are publishers going to blame their shit sales on now?
Remember when people said sleeping dogs couldn't be cracked?
That was funny. I think its funny people think Denuvo is invincible because it takes more than a few months to crack the game.
>>319396280
Devs of course. Oh and that PC is shit platform obviously.
Lords of the fallen was cracked?
i was kind of interested in that game but never tried it because I couldn't pirate it. What a shame really, if I was given the chance to try it first I may have actually bought it, but I've lost all interest now. Whatever, I'll just spend my money on a more deserving dev, I guess!
>>319396110
>fifa 16
>just cause 3
>>319396450
>Lords of the fallen was cracked?
THAT
WAS
THE
0.1
VERSION
OF
DENUVO
good luck cracking this version
>>319396649
And I'm willing to bet this new version will be cracked in under 5-6 months as well.
>>319396450
I liked it way more than Souls 2 but watch rabid fanboys storm and call me a faggot despite Souls 2 being objectively worse outside of DLC.
And yes, CPY cracked it along with all patches and DLC.
>>319396649
CPY already has latest Denuvo from September cracked in their Dragon Age 3 GotY release.
They also confirmed they already have latest Denuvo from Arkham Knight cracked as well and are just waiting for complete edition to make sure the vulnerability doesn't get patched.
>>319396780
I didn't like Souls 2 at all, either. I don't really even know why, it just didn't click with me. Everything seemed so off compared to the first Dark Souls.
>that one very obvious samefag defending Denuvo
It's painfuly clear that you're a Denuvo shill mate, give it up.
>>319396753
>>319396753
Did you, perhaps, miss the part where denuvo games are already cracked?
>>319396992
I'm not sure what you're trying to prove here?
>>319397008
show me a working pirated version of just cause 3 and fifa 16
i'll be right over here
>>319397008
No they aren't. Metal Gear still isn't cracked for example.
>>319396875
Give it a pirate and remember one important speed, equipment weight actually affects you.
You will roll slow and not very far, have fuck all invincibility frames and just be slow as shit if you stack yourself full of heavy giganigga plate armor.
So remember that equipment weight matters and pay attention to it.
>>319397069
It'll happen within the next few months easily.
No, but modding will be if it catches on. Thanks moralfags, I hope the minor victory was worth it.
>>319397103
I beat Metal Gear Solid 5 on a pirated copy. Had some glitches and bugs here and there but it worked and I beat it. Excited to buy it when MGO comes out on PC.
>>319397134
>>319395921
I completed Mad Max with the 3dm crack withouth any problems.
The only point where the game crashed was when I tried using the shotgun outside the car which you don't ever really need to do.
>>319394705
How much is denuvo to put in anyways?
>>319397279
>without any problems
>except this problem
>and the fact i cant use aptches
>and that it crashes randomly
>and that map has 50/50 crash chance
3DM are fucking incompetent hacks and you are a lucky retard.
>>319397278
Resorting to memes now? Do they teach them to you in a seminar?
>>319397510
I wonder where are all those sales that should suddenly be un-lost since piracy was defeated. Can someone explain why average sales are no different from pre-denuvo era?
>>319397351
10% of your game's revenue
>>319397629
Fear of breaking ssd when running denuvo protected games.
>>319397629
Pirates are still holding out in the hopes Denuvo 2.0 gets cracked some day, after a couple of months when they realize literally no one is coming close to beating it you will see immense spikes in PC game sales
>>319395526
>TPP using Denuvo
what
>>319397397
He still beat the game and has no need to buy it now. That's a loss for Denuvo.
>>319394705
The Phantom Pain only took 9 days to get cracked. Fallout 4 was cracked on it's release day. GTA V was cracked. What you talking about?
>>319397715
You mean when the game goes on sale on steam?
>>319395035
2 to 3 years is pretty fucking long.
>>319397715
Which games haven't been cracked yet?
>>319397804
Out of those 3 games, only TPP uses Denuvo and the "crack" is poor.
If you want to see properly cracked Denuvo games, check CPY's releases.
>>319397629
They got worse actually. At least for the denuvo games.
>>319397715
Nice, a time traveler. When is WW3?
>>319397902
Two newest ones. SURPRISE
>>319397913
Never had problems with TPP crack in my 65 hours
>>319397949
It is WW3 going on right now if you didn't notice.
>>319394705
Oh shit, I can't play certain games until after one week after their release even though I usually wait at least a month anyway.
Piracy is over, guys. That's it. Done. Dead. It can't be helped.
Just read the Wiki article
>Denuvo acknowledged that "every protected game eventually gets cracked"
Lulz. good luck with starforce 2.0
>>319397643
So it's not a you buy it you use it? That's real shitty
Explains why Todd didn't use it in fo4
Doesn't that stuff wreck your hard drive or something?
>>319394705
Sure, and along with it, a lot of word-of-mouth advertising
>>319398217
It was just a claim made by some russian site but nobody has been able to prove it.
>>319398172
If Todd used it in any of his games, he'd deny the whole modding community and risk a far bigger shitstorm than DmC.
>>319397863
Think about it.
That's more than plenty of piracy-free time to fully market and sell your game.
What game is full price after 2 years anyway?
They arent going for full 100% safety, they really just want a year or two to be able to sell it without the option of getting it for free, thus increased sales.
Honestly, It doesn't bug me because my backlog is so massive, I probably wouldn't even get to newer games for a year or so.
>>319397713
Russian meme pls go away with your no proof
I don't pirate.
I actually like Denuvo, it's copy protection and not DRM. I'd be ok with denuvo becoming standard if it get rids of the steam cancer.
>>319397913
>this one cpy shill itt
>>319398342
What is true though is that half of the games with denuvo have RAM leakage issue. Did you prepare your 32gb kit?
>>319397804
Fallout 4 doesn't use denuvo, it isn't even a possibility for bethesda to consider using it based on the fact that denuvo is anti-tamper software aka anti-modding software
>>319395025
>royalties
yeah game companies are a big fan of those
>>319395091
All of those games are built for consoles though. And only one game on that list actually uses denuvo
>>319398503
>yeah game companies are a big fan of those
THIS, so much this. Just look at how most of them bend to take the steam cock and give the valve pig "muh cut".
>>319397397
It never crashed randomly and I had the latest version with all DLCs and the map was fine.
In fact, it never even crashed once outside of the shotgun bug.
Fallout 4 on the other hand randomely crashed quite a lot.
>people who actually pay for videogames
Wew lads
e
w
>>319398563
>Retailer cut is something exclusive to steam
It exists everywhere, you mong. The only way around it is to open your own distribution platform, and that's far from free too.
>>319397629
Majority of pirates are 3rd worlders who can't get the games legally in the first place.
>>319398634
>actually defending DRM shit
>>319398613
dont you bastardize spurdo
>>319398563
when returns on production are 400% 25% doesn't seem that much, but 25+25% is a lot
>>319395334
Denuvo is "anti-tamper" so it doesn't let you mod games beyond simple .ini changes and model swapping.
>>319398706
Ok, so now that you got told, you'll create an argument that was never made and attack it instead.
>>319395837
Stay mad and keep funding my hobby :)
>>319398709
I am from Italy and have been studying memes under proper finns in /mammipizza/
With my new doctorate in memes I can assure you spurdo is just evolving and new variations of him will appear more frequently but the original will never die
>>319398321
No they just want full access control over your games.
Also Denuvo has already been beaten several times over, they just update it which starts the cycle all over again.
>>319398802
I don't want games tied to an account and forcing me to install a malware harvesting my DNS cache and probably more. I'd be ok with denuvo as standard protection on games.
>>319398773
It only protects the exe. Most mods don't need this, only mods for shitty bethesda games with the script extender. But then again, what kind of retard plays bethesda trash...
>>319398706
huh. That wasn't a defense for DRM. You're misdirecting the argument. Literally every retailer and distributor has a fee like this.
Not just online. Walmart, Target, Costco, Best Buy, etc etc all have this.
Because the creator of a product can sell far more units through distributors and retailers than if they tried to do it themselves.
They pay a small percentage to them, but make much more profit by doing so.
>>319398472
this, modding doesn't benefit the modder in literally any way so until they wake up and make mods paid I hope Denuvo contains this path of success
>>319399002
>I don't want games tied to an account and forcing me to install
You do realize Denuvo comes on top of all this and not instead of it?
>>319398902
NO
STOP
>evolving and new variations of him will appear
That's how reddit, facebook, and other shitholes get ahold of them and make them incredibly not funny.
Remember the rage comics Anon,
they used to be good.
>>319395837
tfw
>N3DS 9.2 with CFW
>Wii U 5.3.2 with Loadiine 3.0 and vWii
>PS3 with CFW
Everyone console I own has CFW on it, so I just pirate everything I'm interested in playing.
>>319398590
name a 2015/2016 game made for pc that isn't indie, mmo, visual novel, walking sim or LoL clone
>>319399193
Total War Attila
>>319398902
who would even pay you for that? how do you pay the bills
>>319399002
this
arkham knight/fifa/just cause 3/lords of the fallen are all better than any bethshit game
>>319399390
>games that you can't mod are all better than a game you can
wew lad
>>319399070
contains=continues
>>319399070
>modding doesn't benefit the modder in literally any way
Yeah it's not like every other professional level designer and modler got their chops through ametur modding or anything.
>>319399097
>You do realize Denuvo comes on top of all this and not instead of it?
It comes on top because people are retarded and prefer buying DRM shit. Denuvo can work without account tied DRM crapware.
>>319399002
>It only protects the exe. Most mods don't need this
Please tell me what kinds of mods you're running that don't need .exe access but get through Denuvo's anti tamper system. Other than model swaps and .ini edits.
>But then again, what kind of retard plays bethesda trash...
What kind of retard plays the most prominent moddable games out there.
>>319399560
>Denuvo can work without account tied DRM crapware
>I mean, it never did, but it can! That hypothetically makes in good in some alternate universe where it happened.
>>319399484
go away socialist
>>319394705
I've grown to hate DRM. I don't buy DRM games unless they are multiplayer. Then, I don't mind so much. I won't buy a game that has Denuvo.
>>319399274
or strategy
>>319399737
I modded your shit comic now pay me
>>319399912
>>319399913
>paying for stuff is now bad
wew
>>319399912
Best genre in existence scares console people?
>>319399976
that's what i thought pcfat
>>319399990
>paying for stuff is inherently good
I'm sure you bought a 4chan pass and bought the web browser you're currently using to shitpost on this website.
>>319400053
>oh shit i better move the goalposts so I won't look stupid!
>dat damage control
top kek
>lol why should you play games on PC
So you can do what you want with the game, faggot. So you aren't limited by the consoles' lack of basic features like file browsing and modding because they're too scared of being hacked. You do like freedom, right?
>>319400293
>console gamer
>liking freedom
They paid an absurd amount to have their fun built for them and require as little technical knowhow as possible. And you think they give two shits about freedom?
>>319400293
>likes freedom
>uses Windows
>>319399737
>every little thing in the world should suffer capitalistic exploitation and turned into a game of money
>you should have to pay $0.10 to read every one of my posts on 4chan, after all I'm spending all this time and energy thinking it up and typing it, that shouldn't be free
>you should pay to sign up to visit every site on the internet
/pol/ shill pls go. You already spent the last decade ruining gaming with this shit, you don't have to force it on everything.
>>319399912
Name a 2015/2016 game made for pc that isn't action, shooter, adventure, rpg, sim, strategy, sports, mmo, vn, moba, indie, rhythm, party, puzzle or point-and-click
>>319400293
>So you can do what you want with the game, faggot
But most games on PC require steam, which doesn't allow for lending, giving or reselling games.
>You do like freedom, right?
If he likes freedom, PC gaming and its DRMs aren't for him.
>>319394779
Already cracked
>>319399321
I just send the electric company reaction faces in the mail, they seem to like it
>>319399162
It is true, the unenlightened will create humourless variations, but the ones made by us will always remain golden
>>319400443
>But most games on PC require steam, which doesn't allow for lending
It does actually, provided they have their own steam account.
Also unlike consoles you can actually return games for a full refund even if you've already played them.
>>319398563
That's the reason origin exists
>>319394705
Not when there isn't a single game that hasn't been cracked because of denuvo apart from fifa 16 and that's probably because ea pays groups to not crack it. Every fucking fifa gets cracked like 6 months after. EVERY. TIME.
>>319400443
...then you buy DRM free, or download a cracked copy.
>>319398902
>studying memes and getting a degree
don't even joke about that shit. I know an italian professor who actually taught a class on how to create internet memes
>>319400606
>It does actually, provided they have their own steam account.
lol, and you can't play your other games while your friend is playing the game you lend him.
>Also unlike consoles you can actually return games for a full refund even if you've already played them.
Wow, that's so revolutionnary. I wish every business did this. Oh wait, they are required to by law. It's just that steam started following laws, it's nothing exceptionnal, it should have been that way since launch.
>>319400685
You know very well DRMfree games are a tiny minority.
>>319400359
I don't use Windows exclusively. Anyway, FSF's ideology is actually quite a bit more restrictive and less free. They state that it is morally wrong to use copyrighted software, unless you are using it to remove it. No exceptions.
>>319400293
>So you can do what you want with the game
except trade it
>>319400810
>taught a class on how to create internet memes
WHAT'S THE SECRET
>>319394705
I just pirated Fallout 4 so no.
>>319400396
move to russia if you dislike glorious capitalism
>>319400935
That's really the only way I can recommend anyone to play Fallout 4. It's kind of fun, but at the same time, the flaws are pretty upsetting.
>>319400810
Ah so you too have met professor Memma De Ointernette, I too have followed his classes for a while but got bored eventually. It is a nice starting ground for meme apprentices.
>>319400826
>lol, and you can't play your other games while your friend is playing the game you lend him.
That's wrong though. You just can't play the game you lent, which is exactly how lending works IRL.
>>319400826
>Wow, that's so revolutionnary. I wish every business did this. Oh wait, they are required to by law
And yet none of them do. You can't refund games on PSN/XBLM, and no games retailer will allow you to refund opened copies for full price. Steam, Origin and GOG are the only digital distribution services for games I know of that makes game refunds a standard policy.
>You know very well DRMfree games are a tiny minority.
They objectively aren't. DRMfree games are objectively a majority.
>>319399737
More like:
>Me: I want to mod game
>Modder: I can do that for $10
>Me: Guess I won't be using your mods then
>Internet: Here's the mod + authorization-file. Enjoy.
The ONLY way mods can be prevented from being subject to piracy, is if devs and publishers make an "mod-store", like the app-store, for the game. But then you can say goodbye to 90% of all worthwhile mods for games like Skyrim, New Vegas, FO4, Oblivion, etc, as there's NO way in hell that Bethesda would allow dll-injection (script extenders), which practically all the good mods use.
Fuck that, and fuck everyone supporting this.
>>319401164
This guy gets it.
>>319400669just cause 3
>>319395949
Nah, not bait. Have been a gamer for longer than you've been alive. Saw my favourite platform (Amiga) die because piracy made it impossible to make money from games.
PC gaming is a bigger monster, but piracy still hurts it. Pirates are thieves, and not the 'stealing bread to feed my family' kind- the immature shithead kind.
Pirates are basically niggers, stealing because they can, not because they need to. That's as niggerish as you can get.
>>319400959
Hey you still haven't paid me. I deserve to be paid for my work you commie
>>319401343
Ebin, m8
>>319394705
No, but they killed whatever game requires it. Nobody wants to touch those games with a 20 foot pole.
>>319401375
listen m8, I agree with you but cut of the strawman crap, it doesnt help any argument
>>319401343
Question: How can piracy be thieves when according to the EULA you don't actually own the game even if you buy it?
>>319397715
No, pirates are litteraly cancer, they profit as long as they can, and when cracking is over, they'll disappear. But they won't become customers. If they had the mindset to pay for the content, they would do it, simple as that.
>>319401612
>pirates are litteraly cancer, they profit
L I T E R A L L Y
>>319400959
Capitalism can work within reason and with restrictions. Once it takes over everything and becomes completely unregulated, it ruins everything and by turning it into a soulless husk driven by marketing and numbers.
>>319401375
>blogger
video game journalists are not bloggers
>>319401343
I'm not stealing anything, I'm downloading
>>319401612
Spot on lad
Videogames are not something I would ever spend money on (with very rare exceptions). If I can't get it for free I just won't get it at all. No regrets
>>319401694
>Duplicate altered content
>With no benefit whatsoever for the owner of the original content
>Not being the textbook definition of cancer
Educate yourself, imbecile.
>>319401121
why the fuck would he go pee next to him when there's all that space
>>319401783
>video game journalists are not bloggers
found the journalist
>>319401832
Before you proles got fed an idea of "intellectual property", that was a textbook definition of miracle.
>>319401832
>With no benefit whatsoever for the owner of the original content
You do realize that people who pirate are actually a source of income, right?
>>319401783
There is no such thing as gaming journalism.
What we call gaming journalism is just another form of advertising.
So in that sense, they're all bloggers or advertisers. Take your pick
>>319401913
Never said it was a bad thing.
>>319401935
How so ?
>>319394705
>Denuvo: A waste of money that only halts hackers for 24hrs
>AMD: Literally worthless tech and shit all money or tech goods
>Nvidia: Pays a lot for sponsorship, gives boxes of the latest graphic cards, has shitty bloating Nvidiaworks
>Uplay: totally fucking useless botnet shit
>Steam: its a monopoly (but not really)
>>319401836
Have you never done this to someone? It's fun.
>>319402075
>Never said it was a bad thing.
>The textbook definition of cancer
>>319402095
>(but not really)
Thank god for that. The day Valve gets 100% market share on PC is the day we get paid online.
>>319402051
>investigating and making informed subjective impartial articles on video games is not journalism
Sure thing neckbeard goobbergabber
>>319400891
Well, considering nobody really invests in keeping old games published, having them online is actually protecting them from going extinct. And that's a good thing. I'd rather they be online in this manner than be thrown at the garbage bin by stores.
>>319402151
As in moraly wrong, I was refering to the medical definition.
>>319401343
shut up and fund my hobby
>>319394705
No... Just because some lazy chinks got paid not to work on cracking a game doesn't mean shit, Denuvo is only there to prolong the cracking and that's it, someone else will step up and fuck Denuvo up and that will be the end of them and piracy will go back to normal... Denuvo have barely made a dent in piracy and most of Denuvo protected products have been bypassed and are easily downloadable everywhere.
>>319402075
>How so ?
Ever heard of "try before you buy"? Demos haven't existed for years and publishers want you to preorder everything while feeding you prerendered cuts. Some people don't appreciate that
>>319402234
>le goobergabber meme
Literally nothing you posted describes video game journalism.
>>319401560
delete this
>>319400396
That image is fucking horrifying.
>>319402234
You sound more like a gamergator than he does.
>>319402303
How many times have you said after you started a pirated copy "well, it seems to run fine, I will now spend $60 to buy it (eventhough I have a prefectly fine working copy at my disposal)" ?
How many tiimes did you realy do it ?
>>319402408
Paying $60 for a single game is not something I ever even consider, regardless of piracy.
>>319402276
You used cancer to demonize piracy and then flip flopped on the textbook definition which is actually the "medical" one and doesn't apply here.
>>319402408
Not that guy, but that's exactly how I operate. If I like the game and it's not broken, I pay for it because I want to speak with my wallet.
>>319402148
its creepy
>>319402408
Looking at my steam library a pretty good amount.
Also what's with this "buying it for less than $60 is the same as pirating" meme?
>>319402408
about 100 times.
>>319402408
>I will now spend $60 to buy it
Really? For digital even? And not even own everything at release? Get fucked
>>319402051
>>319402303
what's wrong with reading a review from an informed video game journalist??
>>319402493
>No, pirates are litteraly cancer, they profit as long as they can, and when cracking is over, they'll disappear. But they won't become customers. If they had the mindset to pay for the content, they would do it, simple as that.
No jdugement, no demonization here, Ijustdid not use "literaly" & "cancer" in their dank memetastic meaning
>>319402776
great rebutal, you sure showed me
>>319398342
>>319402789
>Informed video game journalist
Someone throw Shogun 2 reviewer achievement stats on this guy.
>>319402408
90% of the games in my steam library are either games I pirated and played when I was a kid and loved the fuck out of, so I bought them, or games I pirated. played a little and decided I want to buy them. However I will never pay 60 buckaroos for a video game, I'd rather buy a cd key for half the price.
>>319402793
>No jdugement, no demonization here
>Pirates are literally cancer
so you just used it in the medical textbook meaning of the word. As a disease that destroys body tissue
Are you done playing semantics or are you going to keep on embarrasing yourself.
>>319402949
>Wrong and bad are the same thing.
>>319403086
I guess you're going to keep embarrasing yourself then.
>>319402810
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism
>Journalism is gathering, processing, and dissemination of news, and information related to news, to an audience. The word applies to the method of inquiring for news, the literary style which is used to disseminate it, and the activity (professional or not) of journalism.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/journalism
>the activity or job of collecting, writing, and editing news stories for newspapers, magazines, television, or radio
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/journalism
>The activity or profession of writing for newspapers, magazines, or news websites or preparing news to be broadcast:
How does that not apply to gaming sites like IGN, Gamespot, Eurogamer, etc.?
>>319403132
>using wikipedia as a dictionary to defend video game journalism
top kek
>>319394705
No.
>>319402919
>>319402594
>>319402580
>>319402545
Guess I'm sorry for when you won't be able to do that any longer.
I would love statistics comparing demo piracy and true piracy
>>319403132
Please name me 5 people you would consider video game journalists. I need a good laugh.
>>319403218
>attacking the source (which is well cited) and not the argument
>>319403132
or Kotaku/Polygon
>>319403236
>you won't be able to do that any longer.
I just feel sorry that you're actually this stupid.
>>319403218
I used other dictionaries like merriam-webster and oxford.
Also I'm not defending them, I'm just saying what they're doing is strictly speaking journalism, even if it's shitty journalism.
>>319403285
>wikipedia
>a dictionary
>the source (which is well cited)
please keep going
>>319403281
Stephen Totilo
Jason Schreier
Patricia Hernandez
Nathan Grayson
>>319403334
With DRMs more and more present, cracks losing credibility and/or efficiency and torrent being deleted left and right, pirating is getting harder for normies.
You might continue it as an individual, but some will consider it's not worth the trouble.
>>319403378
By your logic Buzzfeed is doing journalism strictly speaking
>>319403435
>>319399560
Denuvo can't work by itself. The whole point of Denuvo is to protect the actual DRM the game uses.
>>319395526
the talos principle had it as well
>dragon age 3 is uncrackable
>gets cracked
>yea well lord of the fallen is uncrackable that was just an exploit it doesn't count
>gets cracked
DRMs come and go, AC2 was uncrackable, Spore was uncrackable, Securom was uncrackable.
>>319403504
you keep telling yourself that
>>319403504
Hell, I didn't pirate TPP in the end because of faulty compatibility between some torrents and the crack that would have lead me to redownload the entire game.
>>319403504
>pirating is getting harder for normies
Oh no, not the normies!
>>319403560
>no rebuttal
>>319403504
>DRMs more and more present
Less so because Steam
>cracks losing credibility and/or efficiency
[citation needed]
>torrent being deleted left and right
Magnet links have all but replaced torrents
>pirating is getting harder for normies
OH NO, WHAT WILL I EVER DO
>>319403504
what do i care? as long as i get free shit i couldn't give a fuck
>>319403504
excellent post my friend
enjoy your hard earned (you)'s
>>319403435
>Jason Schreier
>>319396327
But after a few months who gives a fuck about the game? Just saying
>>319404204
he's absolutely right though
>>319403663
>implying I need one
I can't decide what's funnier, the fact that you consider kotaku journalists(which they themselves deny half the time, they're only bloggers whenever someone tries to hold them accountable), or that you could only name 4 after being asked for 5
>>319394705
Ironically denuvo kills sales. Less people play the game, less people discuss it, less recommend it to friends. The majority of those who pirate games simply has no spare money and wouldn't buy it anyway.
>>319404253
>Less people play the game, less people discuss it, less recommend it to friends.
Rings true for me, i recommend all stuff i find good and link Steam where applicable
>>319399737
to be honest I'd be fine paying a steady subscription fee (say like 5 dollars a month) for the mods I'm using provided the money I pay is divided between the modders.
tax my games, valve.
>>319404234
you're absolutely retarded
>>319404234
Sure thing tumblr.
>>319404403
>implying paid mods isn't solely for Bethesda to profit off of other people fixing their games
>>319404204
Out of all those people that's the one you had the biggest problem with?
>>319404403
>5 dollars a month divided by shitload of modders
i bet they're real thankful for that you cheap fag
>>319394705
Denuvo doesn't really kill casual pirating. It gets cracked or worked around. What it does kill is timely updates and DLC for pirates. When it's cracked that tends to be the only version that will ever come out for that game, at least so far.
>>319404606
5 dollars a month x a shitload of paying subsribers is more than they should be even asking for considering it's amateur work with no guarentee of quality assurance or warranties.
>>319401783
>video game journalists are not bloggers
Actually that's the excuse Kotaku use whenever they're called out for being a shitshow of journalism.
THESE PIRATE FUCKS CANT KEEP CRACKING OUR FLAWLESS DRM AND GETTING AWAY WITH IT
ITS JUST NOT FAIR
FIRST THEY CRACKED LORDS OF THE FALLEN AND SOON THEY'LL CRACK JUST CAUSE 3
THIS HAS TO STOP
>>319404830
if capitalism worked like this no one would be able to make a living
>>319400959
>russia
>commie
Russia is the most capitalistic country there is, are you a moron?
>>319404780
That's not true at all.
>>319404850
Point me where on their website they call themselves journalists
>>319404872
Are you retarded?
>>319404940
>trying to trick anons into giving kotaku clicks
nice try
>>319399737
>Someone actually got so booty blasted they drew this
Even as satire this is cringey as fuck to read.
>>319404872
Good thing capitalism isn't getting paid for making amateur mod work. If you want to make a living off of it then go apply for a job at the dev studio and work on DLC.
>>319401343
this was the best laugh of the day. thanks anon
>>319398321
>What game is full price after 2 years anyway?
Pretty much every EA/Actishit game.
>>319402234
>subjective impartial
u wot m8
>>319399737
I have a 12" telescope that I take people out to look at the stars with sometimes.
I charge 2 bits a gander because I feel I should get paid for all the time I put into my hobby.
>>319405458
>taking the bait
>>319404878
i guess that's why you're all broke as fuck and on drugs, vladimir
>>319395921
CPY used an exploit which was fixed by Denuvo before Mad Max and metal gear solid. Without that exploit they can't do shit anymore.
This is literally a repeat of cisquisition. Or was lotf the first to use denuvo? I can't remember, but I can sure remember the shitloads of denuvo threads.
