FACT: all of these games are 10/10s
>>319393532
>Partners In Time
>10/10
>>319393576
Not OP, but PiT is the best game of those 5. It had god tier worlds, boss fights and music.
Paper loogi got keked
Why have the western releases started adopting the JP boxart?
>>319393532
Dream Team was fun, but I think it dragged on too much. When I had to wake up the tour guide, I really was questioning what the fuck was I doing.
>>319393730
>mfw finally not a pleb on this place who appreciates how much of a great game PiT was.
As an rpg, it was simply the best of the first 3.
>>319393532
FACT: You haven't played many games.
None of those are 10/10. Only two of them might be 9/10, but that's also a stretch.
If these games are 10/10, the first two Paper Mario games and a whole slew of other JRPGs like Chrono Trigger, FF7, The World Ends With You, Xenoblade etc are at least a 12/10.
>>319394984
Can you not tell an exaggeration when you see one, anon
So is Paper Jam good then?
Will probably get it when it comes to NA.
Nah man
SSS: 8/10
PiT: 7/10
BIS: 8/10
DT: 9/10
PJ: haven't finished it yet, but I'm guessing I'm halfway done. Probably a 7/10 so far.
>>319394984
>Chrono Trigger
I mean I like the game and all but the only game that gets fellated harder is FF7, despite both just being really solid, 8-9/10 games
SSS = DT > BIS > PiT
Fact
>>319395585
Chrono Trigger is the definition of a 10/10. Nothing could be added to that game to make it better. It's literally perfect.
>>319395186
I can tell when someone's pretending to be retarded.
Superstar Saga: 8/10
Partners in Time: 3/10
Bowser's Inside Story: 4/10
Dream Team: 2/10
Paper Jam: 2/10
PJ is the weakest entry so far but it's not M&L 5 so I can forgive that
>>319395810
>Supernostalgia Sagafags
I really hate your ilk
>>319393576
What's with all the fucking hate towards based Partners in Time?
>>319395585
Chrono Trigger is one of the biggest trope setters for games. It's not a Citizen Kane, more like a Back To The Future, a great well loved film with a shitty sequel and a great sequel after that oneI wish
>>319395786
Chrono Trigger is an 8/10 at best. It's well-made, but I have never found it to be deserving of all the praise it gets, especially since it's not even the best JRPG on the SNES.
Also, FF7, TWEWY, and Xenoblade being 10/10s? That's fucking rich. Xenoblade is a 6 at best, FF7 is a 7, and TWEWY is an 8.
>>319393730
>God tier worlds
Yeah, they were pretty good. Hated the desert one though
>Boss Fights
Maybe...put on the brakes a bit?
>God Tier music
Probably should put on the brakes there...
>Best game of those 5
THE FUCKING BREAKS!
>>319395810
>>319393532
But Partners in Time and Dream Team fucking sucked
>>319393532
official true and honest tier list
god tier: superstar saga, bowsers inside story
great tier: paper jam
decent tier: dream team
shit tier: partners in time
>>319393532
Partners in Time and Dream Team are NOT 10/10s holy FUCK
>>319395343
Better than that abortion Dream Team.
why do people hate dream team so much
>>319395954
>Implying BTTF2 is bad
>Implying BTTF3 is not the lowest of the trilogy
>>319393532
It's an exaggeration but PiT is pretty dope
I want to get Paper Jam. Is it any worse than the other games? I especially liked Superstar Saga and Dream Team.
>>319396219
>le long tutorials meme that actually happens in all previous games in the franchise
>>319396219
are you sure you want me to explain why people dislike dream team?
->YES
NO
PiT > SS > BiS > haven't played the rest.
BiS made me lose interest in the series, don't know why. Maybe I just grew out of it. But PiT was such a huge upgrade from SS. They're both really good though, and I would play both again, not so sure about BiS
>>319396295
FUCK! It's worse than the damn owl from OoT.
>>319396316
>But PiT was such a huge upgrade from SS
how
>>319396262
It depends on what you're expecting out of it before going into it. It's a Mario and Luigi game, and the bosses are fucking ridiculous. However, they stayed a little simple with the environments which might turn you away.
If you hated the tutorials in Dream Team, you will be happy about this game.
>>319396229
Anon, we won't be able to come to any sort of agreement on this, I'm sorry.
>>319396506
4 partners meaning more rpg oriented, over world and battle style.
>>319396664
At least we agree on that andI respect you opinion.
>>319393532
smrpg was better than all of them
and we will never get a proper sequel
;_;
>>319396285
Stop posting that in every threar as if it isn't true. Dream Team's are the most numerous, the longest, and they persist the longest into the game.
>>319396997
true
shame, a new super mario rpg with better gameplay and graphics, and new settings, characters, party members, and enemies, would be exactly what Mario RPGs need.
>there are people who like PiT
>there are people who think PiT is the best in the series
>>319397307
so paper mario before the shit that is sticker star
>the game comes out on January 22nd in NA
>just in time for my birthday
Should be fun.
>>319397143
>Dream Team's are the most numerous
Because DT has the most abilities and specials, dipshit.
>longest
That's not SSS and those mini-gimmick courses to make sure you got the new skill
>persist
Like in SSS still doing tutorials until getting the hand magics and more jump and hammer specials.
Faggot
>>319397893
I'll be honest with you. I hate the mini courses in SSS. I really love the fact that you can skip cutscenes by pressing R. I can now rush into a battle and speed run this game.
>>319393532
I would appreciate it if they held back on the tutorials or at least had an option to skip them. It makes the beginning sections almost unbearable on multiple playthroughs.
>>319398050
Joke's End was the worst designed dungeon
>>319398118
That's why I haven't started a new game of BiS. Twink or whatever the fuck it's name is pisses me off. Almost an hour straight ot tutorials. GOD DAMN IT JUST LET ME PLAY!
>>319398334
Starlow a qt.
>>319393532
>Bowser's Inside Story
>Above 5/10
>>319395881
SSS is the best, but that guy is a pleb
>>319395881
>PJ is the weakest entry so far but it's not M&L 5 so I can forgive that
jump off the bridge
>>319397143
No, BiS had tutorials nearly as bad.
>>319396316
BiS made you lose interest because it was absolute dogshit and consisted of nothing but tutorials and ruined the brothers with shitty platforming sections.
>>319398894
But it's not M&L5
Bowsers fetish story is 5/10
Paper shit is -7/10 desu
PiT WAS A FUCKING CHORE.
DREAM TEAM TOO.
BIS AND SSS SHITS ON EVERYTHING ELSE!
>>319395952
I might be wrong, but I remember people saying how the final boss took way too long to kill.
I dunno though, the one time I beat it I never had a problem with it.
>>319399037
>I never had a problem with it.
Not if you keep spamming the fire flower genkidama
>>319395809
You know this pretty well because you're a retard.
>>319393730
>but PiT is the best game of those 5
Thank you
I like that Paper Jam bos fights seem to be hard as balls just like in PiT and that they don't die in 2-3 turns
>get towards the end of Dream Team
>giant battle with Bowser
>the gyroscope always fucks up in the final segment and I have to slog through it from the beginning
Why now of all the fucking times.
Eight hours into Paper Jam and it's pretty good. Yeah, the environments are from New Super Mario Bros and the townspeople in every town are all Toads, but is that really much of an issue? It feels like an rpg in the real Mushroom Kingdom from the main games rather than the bunch of random-yet-slightly-more-creative-looking places from PIT and BIS. For a single game, this is a nice change of pace, though I wouldn't want it to become the norm.
As for the areas themselves, their design is fantastic: each one is full of stuff you need later field moves to collect and they intersect each other in many different ways, it's almost a Metroidvania. For instance, I still haven't been given the ability to hammer Mario into the ground to collect beans so I already have something to go back to every place for.
The story beats are similar to the first Paper Mario. Each area is like a chapter from that game and you face off against the Bowsers' minions (be it the Kameks, the Juniors or the Koopalings, but you also meet the Bowsers themselves) throughout and at the end of each one, then you get cutscenes showing the situation at Bowser's Castle with the princesses/the bad guys.
They streamlined this compared to Dream Team a lot. 99% of tutorials are optional (you only get a forced one for cards which is understandable since it's an entirely new system, contrast with DT which gave you one about badges twice despite them being the same as BIS) and it's a generally faster game. You don't spend three hours traversing a single area, at least at the beginning. One thing that got worse are the Papercraft Battles though, they're just less fun than the Giant Battles even though they're at least more interactive and less cutscene-driven.
>>319400695
This sounds pretty good. Thanks for your opinion, Anon.
I still waiting the game because Amazon it's lazy as hell (I hope that it will arrive tomorrow), but I know I'm going to have a real good time with this game, even if it's worse than DT or PiT.
>>319401810
It's above PiT for sure. As for the others, I'll have to wait until I get further in to judge.
>>319393532
Are these games really that great aside from the novelty of playing as Mario and Luigi in a JRPG?
>>319395786
CT had shallow plot and characters.
>>319402119
>twenty years and ten games in
>novelty
Yeah, they're legitimately great, at least the Mario & Luigi series is. Paper Mario mixes things up too much instead of trying to keep a standard form of gameplay throughout all games.
>>319393532
Someone please tell me paper jam gets better, I'm about 45 minutes in and the more i play the more i realize they've removed alot of features i liked and added unnecessary ones.
>Removing bonuses
>Randomized that ups
>Target marker
>TARGET MARKER
Please tell me there is atleast a hard mode
>>319403834
>That ups
I think you mean stat ups
>>319393532i agree with you
SSS is still the best on the sole merit that its the only game where Bros. Attacks are an extension of the combat system instead of being shitty mini-games.
>>319403834
It does, just keep playing. The target marker is there because most attacks either target Mario/Luigi or Paper Mario and since the timing on their counters is different, they let you know which timing you're about to use. When an attack can target either bro (or all three characters in a few cases) the marker doesn't tell you who's going to be targeted each time, unless you put that option up with Start.
You are absolutely correct
Partners in Time isn't annoying when you invest in Attack
Paper Jam is still an excellent game when you realize Toad minigames are essentially the Dream World/Inside Bowser portion of the game
>>319393532
I'm sure you think they are, nintencocksucker.
Bowser's Inside Story>Superstar Saga>Dream Team>Partners in Time
Haven't played Paper Jam yet.
>>319393532
How do I beat this fucking King Bob-omb ? ?
I'm going through post game dream team
I just hit rainbow rank and shopped a bit in rainbow rank store
What's the best set up for the Boss ring?
Is it worth having the gloves that give you infinite items?
What's the best gear in general?
I'm still stuck at pill odium X
