A MAN CHOOSES, A SLAVE OBEYS
I was cringing through this scene
>>319372797
good luck with your autism
such a forgotten game
>>319372797
I'm cringing at this post.
>>319372649
WHAT ELSE WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW?
>>319373140
I'm cringing at this reply
>>319372797
Have fun with your ball ism
>>319372797
Would you kindly fuck off
AN ANON LURKS, A FAGGOT SHITPOST.
>>319373472
>>319373140
>>319372879
Why is everyone assuming he means it was awkward and shitty, and not "literally physically cringing because it was a fucked up and brutal scene"?
>>319373640
I understood that reference
>>319372649
how the fuck does it even get stuck in his head
>>319373265
I'm cringing at these non-doubles.
>>319372649
Maybe I'm just dense but the twists in both the original and infinite surprised me
I mean the impact of infinite was lessened by the fact that it was absolutely ridiculous with time travel and shit, but it still got me
Speaking of which, even before I found out about the rewrite I was angry and confused about the glazing over of the vox revolution
>>319372649
This scene was really fucked up...son murdering his father because some greasy, fat bald Boston fuck was too damn greedy and empty hearted...hope Fontaine is enjoying rotting in hell. Rest on peace Ryan.
>>319373772
sorry fag this is how you get dubs
by the way hatsunne miku is a shit waifu
>>319372649
So in this scene, was Andrew commanding his son to kill him and then saying this because
1.) he was showing that he was a man and not a slave by choosing his own end;
2.) he so strongly believed in his own philosophy that a person's will is stronger than their nature/nurture that he thought his son would be able to "man up" and break the mind control?
>>319373858
>implying it was fucked up
everything was already fucked up by that point there were no heros in rapture, only ryan and fontaine going full retard selling drugs to everyone and then ripping them apart to create supersoldiers (big daddies)
>>319374016
Ryan wanted to live by his phrase, he chose to die by his own terms. Delaying the inevitable is being a slave.
>>319374004
Pathetic.7
>>319373816
The Vox Revolution part was just...weird. All kinds of weird. Like they wanted to have a moral but did it in a really awful way.
>>319374105
All of that would have never happened if the fucking Smugglers and Fat fuck Fontaine entered Rapture. Crime is what brought the shining city down. And also Tannenbaum for discovering Adam and letting her inner Nazi take control.
>>319374016
>>319374172
He was a hypocrite who couldn't stand that a competitor was doing better than him so he used is power to shut them down so he can take over himself.
>>319374264
not the guy you're responding to but it would have worked if they didn't include the time travel shit at the end which completely broke the plot
>tfw imagining the e3 infinite with all it's promises
fuck levine
>>319373678
>assuming 4meme.org posters are not using memery to the nth degree
well meme'd, new friend. enjoy your memes
>>319374361
I wasn't saying Ryan was a good guy. I had just always assumed the first one, but then someone presented me with the second version, and I thought it sounded neat.
>>319374349
And that only happened because Ryan was a kike and his police were in effect mercenaries. Without anyone to rely on someone like Fontaine was inevitably going to rise up and kick Ryan's shit in. Fontaine had the workers unions (which technically were illegal in rapture), the mob and an entire underclass of trash willing to do his bidding. Ryan banning religion, as well as pretty much everything he didn't like, created a massively profitable black market for Fontaine to exploit. Then he got Tenenbaum on his payroll and created Jack.
>>319372649
>tfw I just played Bio2
It's perfect.
>>319373140
Cringe at this 5
>Mfw getting a strange Boner from Rosebud Splicer
What's wrong with me /v/?
>>319374381
>e3 infinite had an actual explanation for flying of city
>actual bioshock-esque atmosphere
>woman-like elizabeth instead of kawaii uguu disney princess
>No time travel bullshit
VIDEO GAMES ARE JUST TOO VIDEO GAMEY SO WE FUCKED EVERYTHING
>>319374264
I didn't really get it.
"Sorry, but even though you are a hero, you can't come back because reasons."
"We are going to kill our hero because some bitch told us to, because reasons."
Literally all of that could be avoided by just going up to a microphone and saying "Hey everyone, the black bitch is working for Comstock and tried to have me killed. But she fucked up because I'm amazing. Someone please punch her in the cunt and tell her to calm her shit. Viva."
It could have been steampunk Red Faction. Instead, it was exactly the fucking same as the first half.
You know despite how much I shat on Bioshock at release for being casualized, I still prefer it over every other modern rpg-shooter in hindsight.
>>319374817
Well the problem was there was an entire plot written for the game, but then Levine decided fairly last minute to fuck with it. Finktown I'm sure had a completely logical conclusion that led into the action of the Vox revolution, but instead they decided "WHOAH WHATS WITH THIS CUHRAZY TIMELINE STUFF?? WELL EVERYONE WANTS TO KILL YOU NOW, BETTER RUN!"
Finktown didn't even conclude, the story literally just changed to a different one 3/4 of the way through the level
It's been a while, someone remind me why splicers are all fucked up? Is it just super cancer from all the rampant gene fuckery?
>>319374817
I was more confused why Booker would just assume that he made the same deal with Fitzroy in every universe.
>>319374817
>revolutionary fighters are just the police officers palette swapped
>Booker and Elizabeth just decide to hop into a new dimension with no way of knowing whether or not their original deal will still be in place
>Songbird captures Elizabeth even though they already relocated Elizabeth before Booker even gets to Columbia
the whole second half is just pants-on-head retarded
>>319375191
Pretty much constant Adam and Plasmid abuse turned them into raving lunatic, animals. I've always wondered if there's a chance of saving Splicers, you know with lots of psychiatric help.
>>319374817
It's implied that black bitch setted up the vox booker so she could have a martyr for her cause. The e book and recordings already alluded to the fact that she was Malcom x level of twisted
>>319375191
>Is it just super cancer from all the rampant gene fuckery?
Pretty much. Jack can use as much Eve and Adam as he wants because he was a test-tube baby. Everyone else got addicted to it and abused the fuck out of it
>>319375324
wasn't that the point of the psychiatrist bitch from 2? to give psychiatric help to citizens who constantly splice, never see the sun, and have to deal with ryan/fontains shit every day
>>319375407
Actually bo, original Bioshock mechanic was suppose to be the more Adam and Plasmid you collect, the more deformed and fucked up you become. So you had to decide if you wanna remain human, or degenerate into a splicer.
>>319373768
by getting hit multiple times, skulls aren't made out of titanium
>>319375535
the tonics were way too useful though. if they kept that system they would have had to double-down on the weapon upgrades and different ammo
>>319375520
Rhat bitch 9nly talked about this "family" bullshit and how her daughter will "save them". No much help there. What I meant was mental and physical therapy, Medication and a Splicer can go back to being a human again.
>>319375129
That Finkton point in wich they jump to another dimension just because they can't move some tools is retarded. You can feel the writing go to shot at that exact moment.
This scene made no sense to me
Why did he make you kill him?
>play game for the first time
>watch opening crash
>read the letter on the present
>think nothing of it
>get to this scene, etc
>suddenly think of the opening scene and the little details on the gift
>mind starts putting the pieces together
>mfw I had my mind fucking blown
THAT is why people remember Bioshock fondly, those little moments that as far as I remember had never been done before in a game. It was insane.
>>319375646
But that would have been the beauty of it should that mechanic saw the light of day...you had to make tough choices. Obviously one or two tonics won't do much damage but if you keep going and going and going, you soon start seeing and hearing insane things just like a normal Splicer. What would make you different from them now?
>>319375886
because he's a man
>>319375886
I figured he had figured his options were either A: he could break you of it and lash back at Fontaine before Rapture became a complete loss or B: You'd kill him and he wouldn't have to deal with this shit
>>319375728
well before she went full collectivist her point in being summoned was to help in those ways.
as for actual medication for splicer therapy I think that's what Tenenbaum was trying to make in the first few games. There's a audiolog in 2 from her which says that "right now it can only remove the slugs from the little sisters" but she's trying to work on a tonic to combat splicer sickness
>It's a ''meme thread only meme-ers that played a certain meme gane will understand'' thread
>>319376006
>Adding more tonics/plasmids in bioshock are like leveling insight in bloodbourne
>>319376162
I see...shame Tannenbaum basically pulled a 'fuck this shit I'm out' on rapture. I can only Imagine what those Surviving Splicers are doing now.
>>319374381
>tfw super hyped for Infinite
>tfw finding out more and more and getting less interested as time went on
>tfw I didn't even end up playing it because the end result was pants on head retarded
>choosing to die from blunt force trauma to the face and head
clearly not an intelligent man
>>319375129
>Finktown
>Get there after hearing all the horror stories
>It's all clean and nice
>But then everyone is acting like robots
>You get to the floor and it's actually terrible (Who would have guessed?)
>Wait what about the brainwashed robots?
>Look at all these poor people
>But the brainwashing
>You should help them get more money
>But...
>Congrats, thanks to reasons, you are now in the middle of the revolt!
>WHAT ABOUT THE BRAINWASHING!
>That's over now. GO KILL YOUR FRIENDS!
>*Sound of controller breaking*
>>319376654
Did you get the fucking reason why he wanted to die like that? He chose to die on his own terms...like a man. If Atlas made Jack kill him Ryan would have died like a Slave, with no control.
>>319374419
>>319376445
I believe she went back right before 2 because big sisters were stealing little girls from the coastlines to make more little sisters.
After beating 2 I didn't get any more info about Tenenbaum so I can only assume she remained in Rapture.Bioshock 3 when
>>319376724
I'm pretty sure its less brainwashing and more they're just so beaten down by their shitty situation and the propaganda and when Fink says "BRUSH IN TIME TO THE CLOCK TICKING, CATTLE" they just do it because its a waste of time to argue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jchIi-vR_js
>>319376789
I did understand the implication of the scene, I guess my joke just sucked.
Don't pretend he was a great man though, he was a blind idealist who turned to autocracy(HURR HYPOCRISY) when he didn't account that whole "human nature" thing.
>>319377556
>literally buzzwords: the sentence at 0:58
modern game reviewers everyone
