>30 million in 2 years
Jesus Christ, how?
>>319364898
Good marketing.
Modern consumers are sheep.
>>319364898
Not being Xbox
the PS2 was at 28M in 2 years, nothing all that new
>>319365001
yeah bro they aren't enlightened enough like us wiiu owners.
Xbox pretty much killed itself and the Wii U is the laughing stock of the entire industry, Nintendrones just havent noticed yet.
>>319364898
Because everyone needs a Netflix device for their home.
30 million before black friday
Have they released the sales figures for black friday yet?
>>319364898
Wii U doesn't have the games normies want.
Xbox One had a botched launch.
PS4 got popular by default and now normies buy it because that's what their friends have so they can play with their friends.
would be at 50M by now if bloodborne hadn't come out
the less games there is, the faster it sells
The Wii sold over 40 million in its first two years.
Pretty weak, PS4.
>PS4 only has one good game and sells millions
>Wii U has dozens of good games and sells like shit
Fucking stupid.
>>319365590
The PS2 did less than that but still sold more than the Wii did for lifetime sales. Long term strides are way more important in comparison to how fast you can blow your load on the market.
It has the games I want.
>>319365962
What part of the fact normies don't have a gaming PC are you not understanding?
All the good multiplats that get discarded on here count as selling points.
Microsoft handed Sony this victory when they fucked up and announced the weird "no used games" thing
MS was so confident in their dominance of the console market. They really needed to learn this lesson; that every new generation is not necessarily a repeat of the previous.That only applies to software
>>319365962
ITS NOT FUCKING FAIR
>>319364898
Greatness
Take notes, Nintendo.
>>319364898
>Selling like the wii
People love to buy garbage I guess?
>>319365001
/Thread
>>319366231
Also, forcibly bundling the kinect at the start when a lot of people didn't want it.
I don't understand how. My girlfriend got one in anticipation for new MGS, thinking the library would grow from there, and yet there's next to nothing to play on it. To the point where she just leaves it at my place because space is a little tight for her. It's a nice piece of hardware, but there's such little reason for either of us to use it. I get casual fans want something to play COD and Destiny on, but I fail to see what's so inticing that they're already committing to the new gen. I've enjoyed past Sony consoles a lot, and I'm excited for Yakuza 0 and the remake of 1, but other than that there's nothing. I'm still busy catching up with games from the last two gens, and I'm amazed how it's been 2 whole years with jack shit.
>>319366534
>My girlfriend
Kill yourself.
>>319365590
The Wii was also a fad exercise machine for 60 year old women. We are discussing game consoles.
STOP ATTACHING EGOS TO CONSOLES THE COMPANINIES DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU
>>319365001
This anon knows what's up.
Us Wii U owners are the only connoisseurs of video games.
Just imagine if it had any games
>>319365962
Nintendo is sitting in this weird twilight zone of not quite being in line with the current philosophy, but still expecting great sales.
Their online service is at least a decade behind, the games are mostly stale repeats, they censor everything and treat their adult customers like children, and above all don't really have any real games to make the purchase worth it (and for the record neither does Xbox or PS4, the U just even more so).
Also many people thought the Wii U was just a peripheral for the Wii. And many others still thought to avoid the U because of all the expected pointless shovelware and wagglan shit. The Wii is just a straight gimmick, the U is slightly less so.
Nintendo really just need to release a system like the GameCube, but updated for modernity (plays blu rays, has decent online, outputs HDMI signal, decent third party support, no gimmick).
>>319366848
>implying any home nintendo console will ever get 3rd party support after this
next to no competition
marketing
>>319366848
>Nintendo needs to go back to their last failed console
>also do exactly the same things we already have 2 other consoles for
Hurrr
>>319367170
I remember that Black Friday.
Best Buy didn't advertise worth a shit. It was a good night.
I guess you fags can stop saying game X will save system Y, all system Y needs is GAMES
well the PS4 is proving otherwise, you don't need games
>>319365001
its true
just look at e3 2013
>>319364898
breddy cheap Blu - Rah and Netflix player brah
>>319365001
Yeah man consumers are sheep, unlike us Wii U owners of course.
>>319366848
>Nintendo really just need to release a system like the GameCube, but updated for modernity (plays blu rays, has decent online, outputs HDMI signal, decent third party support, no gimmick).
this will never happen.
>>319367447
PS4 has games.
Just because multiplats don't count around here doesn't mean the rest of the world is ignoring them.
>>319366231
I still don't understand how people can claim piracy is bad while in the same breath support used games.
>>319364898
Its the only viable console on the market realistically.
>>319367502
nigger a raspberry pi can play netflix
>>319366848
>The games are mostly stale repeats, they censor everything and treat their adult customers like children, and above all don't really have any real games to make the purchase worth it (and for the record neither does Xbox or PS4, the U just even more so).
Are you serious? The Wii U definitely lacks third party support, and there have been a few disappointments lately, but their first party titles are leaps and bounds better offerings than what the PS4 and Xbone have. Some games are better than no games.
>>319367592
>buying something second hand is the same as stealing
Are you fucking kidding me?
>>319367592
That's probably because you are a mouth breather
>>319367592
Being able to sell games back and get credit at Gamestop is how a lot of normies buy their new games. It's less about being able to buy used games and save 5 bucks and more the fact it's taking a basic consumer right away.
>>319367658
somehow supporting devs or not supporting them is the only variable around here
breaking laws apparently doesn't matter
>>319367658
>piracy is stealing
nice meme
>thought the PS4 would be the next PS2
>i was wrong
>>319367646
Owning both a Wii U and Ps4 I can safely tell you i've put more hours into Bloodborne than Bayonetta 2.
I also like all the Exclusives* that PS4 offers like The Witcher 3, Estival Versus, and Arkham Knight.
*Not available on Wii U
>>319364898
YOU UNDERESTIMATE SONY'S MARKETING
>>319364898
By not sucking quite as hard as the other 2 choice.
>>319367764
wow that is a great lineup
what happened
>>319367785
>Multiplats
Oh okay.
I'm gonna be honest, I regret my Wii U purchase. I ain't got shit all to play on it.
That being said, while I do think the PS4 has a better selection, the difference is so small that I can only imagine wanting a Wii U instead if I had a PS4. Grass and greener, blahblahblah.
I don't know what the fuck happened this generation that every platform seems to be shit.
>>319367763
>PIRACY SHOULD BE LEGAL WHY DO I HAVE TO PAY FOR STUFF
>t. you
>>319365081
PS2 had a hell of a game library 2 years in.
>>319367346
I will just leave this here.
>>319367918
Games got larger and required more money and time to make
Game developers became more creatively bankrupt
Games became mainstream so instead of making a good product people just cater to the largest common demonimator
one reason: that "always online" stunt microsoft tried to pull after unveiling the xbone
>>319365093
kek
>>319367918
Other consoles showed up, game dev costs increased, scales of games increased requiring more dev time...etc
>>319367943
would've sold barely less without it
it's all in the marketing and the fags buying madden/fifa
>>319367935
So piracy is just as okay as used games as long as you pay the cracker?
Gotcha, thanks.
>>319367920
>Multiplats
Wii U can't play them.
That's the point. It doesn't matter if you play them on PS4 or Xbone orPC, these are games the Wii U can't play.
>>319364898
Black people will continue to buy PlayStations even if it meant having to disclose your activity to the NSA in Sony's terms of service.
>>319367935
Piracy isn't stealing. It's piracy.
Whether it's right or wrong has nothing to do with that simple fact.
>>319368046
So?
>>319368136
>and the fags buying madden/fifa
then why did the dreamcast fail
>>319367764
Nothing will be the next PS2, just like nothing will be the next DS. Those two are fucking anomalies in their respective classes.
>>319368242
It didn't. It was the Saturn that failed.
>>319368262
>Those two are fucking anomalies in their respective classes
PlayStation consoles all sell well, so do all Nintendo handhelds. How are they anomalies?
>>319368242
weak marketing, released too fast when people were already losing count of how often they replaced their sega system
>>319368046
>your 3ds probably had shit particles sprayed on it before it was put on the shelf
>>319367592
I am the gentleman you responded to and I do not believe I brought up piracy.
A person has two choices, Nintendo or multi-platform. That is, not buying multiple platforms, but a system that plays the mainstream stuff like AAA shooters, sports games, RPGs etc.
Most will get reeled into multi-plat by their friends or hype for the latest greatest technology. Once they get there, they'll bawk at the price of a PC or not even consider it because PC as a platform has little in the way of marketing. That leads them to PS4 vs Xbox, anyone can look up the PS4 having superior hardware, and the choice will be simple. The more people that buy a PS4 the more will lean that way because it's the system their friends have.
>>319368262
Reminder that despite what /v/ may tell you PS4 is on track to outsell the PS2
If you believe /v/s lies then the PS4 shouldn't exist.
according to /v/ the PS4 should have peaked and slowed down in sales...but here we are setting records every month. How many times do you need to be proven wrong before you wake up and smell the roses?
>>319368336
Selling well is different than being the best selling console and handheld of all time. PS1 is like 50 million units behind PS2. That's a pretty significant number.
So yeah, PS4 is, and will continue to sell well, since they play the long game, even the PS3 is now doing quite well in its twilight years. But I don't think it will get past PS2 levels.
>>319365531
That didnt help the wii u
>>319368380
>get brand new sega cd, playing some sonic cd and shit
>go to friend house
>"what's that?"
>"a sega saturn"
>>319368501
That's why I NEVER buy anything at GameStop, EVER.
All those used and new but already opened games you buy there? Think about it for a minute.
>>319368501
>>319368046
fucking lol'd
>>319368157
But both libraries become irrelevant if I can play them elsewhere on higher settings. I'm not defending the Wii U's inability to play 8th gen games, I'm simply saying it's entire library is leagues ahead of it's competitors in terms of providing games I can't play elsewhere. What incentive do I have to pick up a PS4 besides Yakuza, which won't come west for a while?
This is the single most cancerous thread on /v/ right now.
And that's with a thread complaining about Sonic's Boom design.
>>319368046
>literally stockpiling your nintendo products in the bathroom
What the hell
>>319368828
The point is you aren't the majority and never will be.
Just like at the Wii U's sales compared to PS4.
>>319368828
The closest thing the average consumer has to even a mid-end PC is their fucking smartphone.
>>319366231
i hate microsoft so fucking much. They did not learn their lesson, jist think about what they are doing with win10. Its the same thing: pushing the custumers into buying some shit they dont want.
>>319368546
>Selling well is different than being the best selling console and handheld of all time. PS1 is like 50 million units behind PS2. That's a pretty significant number.
What is your point? For its respective time the PS1 ripped everyone and everything a new one, including Nintendo and all its fanboys as they are still salty about it and proclaimed Sony to be their new arch enemy from then on.
The numbers the PS1 managed to sell were unprecedented, it didn't just "sell well". It was OMFG THE PS1 IS RAPING EVERYTHING.
I guess you are too young to remember how it fucking wiped the floor with Sega and Nintendo and there was nothing and no one that could stop it.
BLOODBORNE
>>319368527
>.but here we are setting records every month
>Saying "we" like you actually have something to stake in sony
Its like you guys actually think you are a part of Sony just because they sold you something.
>>319368853
It's ok, anon. You are free to leave, no one is holding you. Bye.
Better multiplat system, has games no matter how much /v/ says otherwise, did not botch the shit out of its launch, was cheaper.
>>319369047
>>319369081
I know, I know.
It's just fucking exhausting. The whole industry seems to be built around, "we're not as shitty as our competitors!" these days. Everything feels so stagnant.
Casuals.
They'll drop it once something better comes along.
>>319369081
this. i'm not sure if you all have noticed, but desktops are dying. a lot of families only have mobile devices.
because that's all you need for causal browsing.
>>319364898
well, its superior to the competition and a good console. /v/ usually overrates the importance of exclusives, people dont care about that.
>>319364898
Microsoft almost killed the Xbone right off the bat with their horrible, horrible reveal.
>>319370438
>implying I'm not an idort
Brand loyalty is stupid and so are you
>>319364898
xbox had the worst possible publicity when it mattered
so every casual gamer defaulted to the ps4and sony counts sales to retailers towards total unit sold
It only gets better bros
>>319370912
>now with developer commentary
So its like paying through a movie even more?
Casuals bought it for multiplatform games
Weebs are buying it for jap games.
>>319364898
I don't even care what lil timmy plays cod on. What bothers me is how people accept such a tiny lead as reason to put everything as ps4 exclusive and also accepting sonys massive anti consumer ways like for all the trailers and advertising with nazi propaganda levels of misinfo spreading.
>>319365001
Sony sucks at everything they do for a while now but marketing for their games devision is amongst the top players still.
>>319370912
>All them game of the year.
I know 2013 wasn't that bad.
>>319366118
The ps2s last 50 million steps were mainly in ghetto countries like brazil that need a system to play fifa.
>>319366172
>gaming PC
This is somewhat true, but you do realize that normies are the majority in PC gaming right? WoW, League, TF2, and much more.
>>319364898
>bunch of guys at work are big PS4 fans
>in conversation i said i thought Wii U had the best list of exclusives
>they look at me like i'm crazy
>ask them what PS4 exclusives they like
>Bloodborne
that was literally the only PS4-exclusive title they could come up with that anyone there liked. i think the only reason anyone is buying a PS4 is because Microsoft basically shot the XBONE in the foot before it could even get it out the door, and for whatever reason normies don't even consider the Wii U when deciding which console to get.
And that's too bad, because the Wii U is still the only console that can provide me a gameplay experience i can't already do better on my PC. Nintendo games are great and all, but I would love to see what the rest of the industry could come up with if the Wii U had fucking any 3rd party support at all.
>>319370704
>reporting a post because it triggered you
Back to reddit tattletale
>>319371603
Literally all of those will easily run well on a low-to-mid range PC. The freshest multiplats won't run as well as they would on PS4/Xbone (if they run at all).
>>319365001
WAKE UP AND BUY A WII U SHEEPLE!
>>319367736
>basic consumer rights
A discount on shovelware software is not a right and the sony audience certainyl never cared much for consumer rights.
>>319364898
>mfw Wii U shipped 10 million in like 6 years
>>319371663
>Wii U is still the only console that can provide me a gameplay experience i can't already do better on my PC
>on my PC
Normies don't consider the Wii U because they don't have a gaming PC. The Wii U is a damn fine secondary console, but as your only console for this gen? You're either 6 or a total Nintendrone.
>>319368089
>Other consoles showed up
During ps2 times there was the gamecube, xbox and dreamcast too. We have less systems now.
>>319364898
well they don't grow on trees when you have to fix your wobble station 4
what the fuck do people even play on ps4 and xbone
>>319370912
Finally I can play this game on a couch
>>319371826
If I buy something, it is mine to use as I see fit.
Part of that is being able to sell it to someone else.
>>319368546
>even the PS3 is now doing quite well in its twilight years
No the ps3 will forever be the biggest blunder of the videogame industry. Finding a penny after burning your house and family is not being lucky and making profit.
>>319372113
The same games you play on pc.
>>319365001
i never felt more enlightened than the moment i bought my Wii U
>>319372113
The multiplats you played on PC.
>>319365590
>>319369262
I never gave a fuck about either. I just hate Sonyfags the most.
>2 years
>Only one game worth buying
>>319371663
look its the guy that plays baby games !
>>319371518
Not that guy, but so what? What is it about you people not realizing that core games don't actually sell, it's only a small minority that buys those types of games. Companies need another branch to make games to casuals so they can satisfy that small dedicated minority. So in the end you should thank casuals for giving big companies money.
>>319371941
Pls don't be dense, those other consoles all pretty much were playing to their niches. We now have two console giants mostly releasing the same multiplats.
>>319371663
The decade long propaganda started by sega and picked up by sony is deep in peoples heads.
People don't even have desktops anymore or labtops.
It's Cellphone+ Ps4. Which is a pretty good combo.
>>319371735
And it's not because of hardware limitations, but because of bad optimization. Which is also happening to PC ports in general. And yes, most people don't have good hardware when it comes to PC gaming, it's only a small minority that have decent to good rigs. The majority are casual garbage people that play on their laptops, I see them all the time.
>>319372326
Only game that's come out in 2 years that's worth buying
>>319372320
Everybody likes to pretend it didn't exist.
>>319372354
6th gen was already multiplat release heaven. Every system got largely the same games from 3rd parties and many exclsuives in addition. That balance shifted a lot.
>>319372150
Not that guy, while I do agree, consoles in general have diminishing returns. While you do own the game, if that game get's fucked, or if the system of the time stops working, then it's game over. Games are not preserved on consoles. Find me a brand new SNES with a new copy of Breath of Fire. I hope you got the point.
>>319372320
Wii was really ahead of its time. PS2 was just a PS1 with better specs.
how can you stop playing online games on the wii u? Everyone is a fucking kid.unless you're actually a pedo.
>>319372326
This is why exclusives are important because that's what justifies buying a console. Even as a PC gamer I understand this. Which is why multiplats are garbage.
>>319371919
Anon pls, I'm a PC gamer first and foremost. What does an XBONE or PS4 offer me that I can't already do on my PC? I don't need to pay $300+ for hardware that can only do the same things I already can do, but worse. Now, if one of those consoles had a decent list of exclusives, then I might be interested in getting one so I could play those games, but as it stands, both consoles have an embarrassingly short list of (mostly) unimpressive games as exclusives.
The thing that gets me about my coworkers is I know for a fact that they all have good gaming PCs, but they still all got PS4s anyway, and none of them can even explain what made them want to get one. Well, I guess one of them can.He had an XBONE and hated it so much he sold it an bought a PS4 out of spite.
>>319372352
The word core is very wrong used. The core is the people you have guaranteed sales from which is fifa and cod etc atm. Everything else with "only" 10 million software sales or even under is hipster shit you can use to cover up the systems real purpose.
My life has been a living hell ever since I bought an Xbone last year for Halo MCC
And Halo 5 is cancerous
Should I sell out and pick up a PS4 or work on a PC?
>>319372778
PS4 has a huge exclusive Japanese library.
>>319372652
Okay, I'm really sleep deprived, so I'm just going to ask. What does this have to do with Microsoft initially announcing "no used games for the Xbox One" and are you really supporting that bullshit?
>>319372562
lol
>>319371701
>implying I reported anything
What the fuck are you talking about
>>319371168
I'm just shitting on whoever does worse. Sony was last gen and now Nintendo is this gen. Can't wait to see who's shittier next gen.
>>319364898
>Jesus Christ, how?
Useful idiots.
>>319372716
The point is PS4 is selling faster than the Wii
Because it has the comfiest as fuck game released this gen so far
>>319371701
>deleting your post so you can tell someone to go back to reddit
This is some hardcore shit posting.
>>319372953
>comfy
>not an image of the Fishing Hamlet
One job
>buying consoles
name 10 exclusives worth having
you cant cause you're just paying for a service this gen
>>319372885
Don't even know what you are talking about. I was just replying to the guy that said "If I buy something it is mine to keep" assuming he is talking about physical copies of console games.
>>319372868
that's a prettymootpoint when we're talking about NA and the non-weeb majority.
>>319372856
I feel ya I'm sony though but Xbox has gone way down in quality. Its like it has no competition now.
>>319364898
Xbox shot themselves in the foot ... with an AK
>>319372778
That's what I am saying though.
You have your PC, but imagine if you didn't have it, because most casuals don't have gaming PCs and that is who you were talking about in >>319371663
Exclusives aren't anywhere as important to the average consumer because their PS4/XBONE is the only way for them to play multi-plats as well.
>>319372814
You aren't wrong, but again it comes back to that word. I usually think the core is the dedicated fanbase who will remain true to the game. However, that fanbase can move on if they aren't satisfied if a sequel isn't up to standard or an improvement to the original.
>>319364898
>Good marketing
>Sony didn't shoot themselves in the foot like last gen
>Its name; Xbox One sounds like the original Xbox, plus 1 < 4, and the Wii U sounds like an add on for the Wii. Calling it the Wii 2 would not have done much better, as 2 <4. Normies gravitate towards whatever has the highest number (Galaxy S6, iPhone 6, etc.)
>Cheaper launch price than the Xbone
>No PR disasters like the Xbone's proposed DRM
>Familiar brand name built over the past 20+ years
>While its library is lacking (in my opinion) it's still better than the competition
>While the performance is still pitiful, games do run better on PS4 than on Xbone
>One month timed exclusive CoD map packs
Nothing more really needs to be said to be honest family.
>>319373026
Who is that a picture of?
>>319373009
>>319371701
I reported a post from the frontpage because it was obvious shitposting with no text of worth.
Not everyone wants /v/ to be /b/ and /pol/ with videogame culture.
>Fifa '14 released on PS4, PS3, and PS4
This was the moment I realized the power of third world markets.
>>319373201
tba 2016 right anon
get that printed on a hat
It'll be probably around 37-40m shipped by end of CY15
>>319364898
I love how you assholes act like if a game doesn't appeal to you, it must not appeal to anyone else. Truth is, Killzone, Infamous, and plenty of other games, third party included, gave the PS4 a pretty decent library over the competition, a trend which continues today.
>>319373201
>The last guardian
>worth having
Press x to jason 2
It's fucking good.
>>319373026
That doesn't matter because we are talking about you. Which is what you specifically said. They do offer games that cannot, for the time being, be found elsewhere and it does count as being exclusives. Whether you like them or not is your subjective opinion.
Awaiting your goalpost reply.
>>319373164
Is this bait or are you really that much of a newfag?
>>319373201
This picture reminded why I want to get a PS4.
>>319373325
Way to oust yourself newfag
>>319373201
Good list, however, FF:R isn't an exclusive.
>>319364898
Microsofts/Nintendo shit launches + increasing population + marketing
Sony didnt achieve anything, they were just at the right place at the right time, the product itself is utter shit.
>>319373135
Oh, I misunderstood the angle of your post. Yeah that makes a lot more sense for casuals and CoD-kiddies.
>>319373157
The gamecube was a true core pandering console and yet the dvd player outsold it by far, the wii u was advertised as core system and even got the games at the start but that audience is just not there. Of course it does not help when publishers like ea were actively putting shit they knew wouldnt sell like mass effect 3 without 1&2 when the ps360pc got the trillogy release a few weeks later.
>>319373367
to what wait for games?
>>319373438
You can imagine AC7 taking it's place if you wish
>>319373439
Yep. They are winning purely because the the competition is dreadful, not because the PS4 is a superb console. I think >>319373158 is a pretty good list of reasons.
>>319373495
Hence why I haven't bought one yet. It just reminded me what I'm waiting for. It's not like I have a list posted to my wall with names and release dates.
>>319373158
Anon please next time shorten your point and just say marketing. I actually expected more than 1 point reading throught that.
>>319373201
>rehashes
>it's ok when sony does it
>>319373459
It's all good, I'm just sick and grumpy currently.
And probably phrasing things poorly too.
>>319372778
Consoles costs less, are easier to use, have better / more integrated online communities..etc
>>319373201
>the last guardian
ayyyy
hope you've pre ordered your PS6
>>319373851
thats all your buying this gen anyways. an online service and people to play with
>>319372716
Well I mean the Wii was basically two Gamecubes duct taped together.
>>319373495
Buying a PS4 now is a waste unless you really want to play Bloodborne (like a lot of people do me included)
But the 2016-17 lineup looks really, really good
>>319372453
>People don't even have desktops anymore or labtops.
>It's Cellphone+ Ps4. Which is a pretty good combo.
I would be sad if it didn`t mean that normalfags will stay contained in their shitty ecosystems from now on.
>>319373324
No need to get salty, anon. I'm not sure what compelling Japan-only games you're alluding too and I don't read moon, so if there's not an English translation then it's still not a selling point.
>>319365001
>Modern consumers are sheep.
>xbox markets soda and chips and cod and tries to rape you with drm
>nintendo just wants to pump out last-gen-tier games and sell their overpriced figures
>sony is a little overzealous in their advertising but at least they are trying to do what all of them should be trying to do - appeal to gamers
I dont even own any of them but fuck its so easy to see.
>>319373492
I respectful disagree with your opinion. I do think the Cube was marketed to a core audience, which in fact managed to sell over >20million units. To the production company of Nintendo or maybe the shareholders that wasn't a good number, but it was decent. I don't remember how the software did but it had to make enough for some developers to keep making games.
The Wii U was not advertised as a core gaming console and Nintendo's philosophy on game design is still the same - making games for people who have never played games in their lives and small children, you can see this with how their games are made, being too easy and it holding your hand.
It doesn't matter anyways, people who were big fans of Nintendo, at least the people I know, left a long time ago. And now since they are getting a bad rep for the censoring of games, well...
>>319373602
>buying a ps4 in 2016
anon, save your money for the ps5 during next holidays
http://www.crossmap.com/news/playstation-5-ps5-release-date-news-and-rumors-skys-the-limit-when-it-comes-to-playstation-as-sony-gave-full-freedom-to-developers-for-the-next-playstation-22936
>>319373607
30 million sales say yes, yes it is.
>>319373950
>appeal to gamers
>lock last gen titles behind a monthly sub
yea for the gamers...
>>319374007
>shitty bait
Literally every company starts R&D on the next console as soon as the current one is done, this means nothing.
>>319373945
Not salty, just pointing out the obvious bait. You are looking at it subjectively is all. And if it makes you feel better, I am exclusively a PC gamer so far. I have been PC gaming since the late '90s and the current state of PC games isn't all peachy.
>>319374092
They really had no choice, if you knew anything about the PS3 you would know this.
>>319373201
>Star Ocean
>Persona
>Final Fantasy 7: Remake
>exclusives
>>319372326
The thing is that the PS4 has multiplats and games that interest the majority of people.
Nintendo has a bunch of excluvises but moarly if then dont interest anyone besides nintendofans. It also has bayonetta and wonderful 101 but nonone is going to buy a console for one or 2 games. If nintendo didnt fuck up the third party support the
>>319374076
a high grossing shitty movie is still a shitty movie
>>319374076
so by 15,575,000 album sales we can agree this is the best modern musician
>>319366848
It's the hardwares fault + gimmicks fault even if the gimmick isn't that bad. Like I could still see the console as enticing to third party developers even with its shit title and marketing and if it got third party support plus its great first party line up (better than other consoles still pales in comparison to first party line ups of yesteryears) it would probably be doing much better than the XBONE.
I don't agree the next console shouldn't have a gimmick, the Wii's gimmick made it fly off the shelves, it just needs a gimmick that is marketable and easy for third parties to latch onto. And it needs a gimmick that doesn't hinder classic gameplay design (I.E. it needs games designed for a regular controller and a normal controller in addition to its gimmick). If enters the hardware race now its going to be 2 steps forward 3 steps back as Sony will match the hardware and then surpass it soon after whatever the NX is. And then they'll be playing an endless back and fourth of catch-up.
>>319374260
they had a choice they just went with the one that milked more money
People should give Until Dawn more credit. I just completed it and it's my GotY (yes, over Bloodborne).
It was just such a unique and fresh experiences. Graphics and atmosphere is fantastic, decent story with some good twists, great mix of characters, great voice acting, and fantastic overall presentation and production values.
I really would love to see a spiritual successor that expands on some of the concepts. More focus on character relationships, choices, and branching paths. Maybe move away from the cheesy horror movie feel to something a bit more serious (the VAs were great, and would lend themselves better to something a bit more serious). Also, this is just a minor gripe, buthave all characters be able to die throughout the story, rather than some only being able to die near the end
I think the most impressive bit is that this is a dev that had literally only made PS Move shovelware up to this point, and then they blow it out of the water with a great game with incredible graphics, voice acting, mocap, and production values. It baffles my mind that they had such talent working on such shit game.
>>319374007
PS5 is just a streaming box. Why would anyone buy that to play games on lol?
>>319364898
cause nintendo became a joke with the wii brand and there was no real competition besides the xboner
the wii killed nintendo
just sounds so cringe and kiddie "wii"
>>319374302
>we can agree this is the best modern musician
He makes the best "modern" music yes
Now the quality of "modern" music is another topic of discussion
>>319374275
FF:R was already hinted to not be exclusive by Yoshida himself. Has there been a hint from a developer of those mentioned titles that it could come to other platforms? If not, and if you have no source saying otherwise, then you are just speaking out of your ass.
>>319373851
>consoles cost less
I know that this is exactly what normies think, but I really wish people would realize that this is just plain not true.
>$400 for a new console
>$100 or so for extra controllers
>$250 for online play for 5 years
And we're up to the price of a reasonable gaming rig. Then throw in that a lot of people get two consoles, and may be paying for online for BOTH of them, and the costs get skewed even more. AND we haven't even talked about how console games tend to cost more and don't get the deep discounts from shit like Steam sales (although the PSN store has at least been catching up in recent years, don't know about Xbox).
>>319374302
He must be doing something right with that many sales. Just because you don't enjoy his music, doesn't mean you should discredit sale numbers
>>319373950
most of your post is dumb edgelord shit but I need to point out
>xbox markets soda and chips and cod
this is wrong, Playstation also runs the CoD + Mtn Dew + Doritos campaign, PS4 is even the prefered console for BO3 and they're spearheading the competitive league, its so odd how often you spergs get this wrong
>>319374403
No, they didn't. The PS3 can't be emulated yet, definitely not with the hardware of the PS4. So the only choice was the use Gaikai (or whatever they call it now) to stream them. Shitting on Sony for their paid online is pretty irrelevant at this point considering they pretty much only did it because it was working for Microsoft.
>>319374403
>they had a choice they just went with the one that milked more money
The choice being putting the cell processor into the PS4 and making the console 200$ more expensive yes
>>319374497
>Play it first on PlayStation 4
Literally the reveal trailer this summer
>>319374478
>killed Nintendo consoles
Fixed that for you
3DS is still selling pretty damn well
>>319374302
Actually, Bieber has been putting out good songs lately due to his new writer and producer being good. Fucking crazy, right.
>>319374535
They do now because they are the most successful console currently. They certainly didnt start the dewrito shit
>>319374403
> Nearly a decade since the PS3 released.
> Not even a PC emulation
> Thinks Sony is incable of doing so die to money
Nice fedora you got there.
Thankfully I quit mainstream gaming like 6 years ago. I only play the most obscure, desolate and hardcore shit available, and none of that is threatened by a console with no games selling well.
>>319374636
For which game? Stop trying to be cryptic and post sources of the games you said weren't exclusives. We already know about FF:R not being exclusive, where is your source for the rest?
>>319374465
ps4 and vita already proven sonyfanboys don't even care about games
>>319374835
Ugh, what? Persona 5 and Star Ocean 5 are both on the PS3. They aren't exclusive to the PS4.
>>319374528
>And we're up to the price of a reasonable gaming rig.
A couple of problems with that
1. You need some knowledge of what you are doing or you will end up buying prebuilt garbage or get fleeced buying overpriced components
2. Your "reasonable rig" runs the very real risk that it will need to be upgraded inside 2 years
3. You can run into optimization issues (see the Batman games)
Buying a console sets you up for at least 5 years of plug and play
>>319374426
>cheesy horror movie feel
I believe that was intentional. The developers said the game was a take on shitty horror tropes.
>>319374962
>Star Ocean 5
>PS3
Maybe if you know moonrunes
>>319375078
I don't see how that stops it from being a multiplatform title at its core.
>>319374528
You forget to take into account that gaming rigs are extremely energy inefficient and use $50-100+ more than consoles yearly in energy costs.
Also, the PS4 is $300 with a game and a controller
>>319373995
>I don't remember how the software did
Software sales are always excellent on every system, even wii u.
>>319374528
>these prices
Surely these aren't US prices. PS4 is $300-350 controllers are $50-60.
However there isn't much reason to buy a second controller, there also isn't a reason to buy two consoles (especially since it seems you're referring to the XBONE and PS4, and multiplats drive both), nor do 'a lot' of people buy both. Sales are generally about the same, theres always BOGO, B2G1, pricecuts and discounts on older games (which is what the general 'deep discounts' are for on Steam anyways).
You also haven't considered that most homes have a Television where as not every home has a proper desk, mouse, mousepad, keyboard, monitor, speakers/headphones, operaterating system. But I'm not really referring to semantics, an equal powered PC (just the tower) is going to run you far more than a console and won't stay relevant as long because the games are released for increasingly better hardware.
>>319374528
Most gamers who have tried there hand at PC gaming got their hand burned by their mothers computer not being able to run Jack shit. That was me several years ago with an average shitty HP rig trying to play all the cool games my friends could play on their computers. Convincing my family or myself to purchase me a new computer for gaming would have been out of the question as most rigs require some type of knowledge of building or a lot of expense to get it running properly. The research part of figuring out which graphics card, how much ram you need, ect. is too much for normies to deal with. They just want a convenient box that works every time you push a button and can play whatever game the cover says you can play, they don't have the attention span to look at hardware requirements for PC games.
It's the same reason why Applebee's is so popular, sure you could make a better meal for cheaper at home with a little know how, but most people don't got time for know how and just wanna eat.
>>319374962
Still on a Sony platform and most people are probably going to buy it on PS4. And you were obviously disingenuous when saying >exclusives, you obviously meant that it was coming to Xbone and PC. Nevertheless I was right in you talking out of your ass. With that said, I'm going to stop replying to you.
>>319375212
They aren't energy inefficient, they simply require more power because they have much stronger hardware.
>>319368828
>But both libraries become irrelevant if I can play them elsewhere on higher settings
And here's the thing /v/ doesn't fucking understand, most gamers don't own multiple platforms capable of playing the same game. For them, the PS4/Xbox One is the only way to play multiplatforms.
>>319373926
No it was a gamecube with some parts slightly upgrades and some parts worse.
>>319375159
Maybe for dick measuring contests. But in actuality if you plan on getting Star Ocean 5, it is essentially a PS4 exclusive for 99% of the western population who can't speak moonrunes
>>319375304
>And you were obviously disingenuous when saying >exclusives, you obviously meant that it was coming to Xbone and PC.
What? No? It's not exclusive if it's on more than one platform. Are Helldivers and Resogun exclusive to the PS4 despite being on the PS3?
The guy asked for a list of PS4 exclusives and you posted a handful of confirmed multiplats.
>>319364898
Because it's Playstation, motherfucker.
>>319375330
No, many part manufacturers make little effort for energy efficient parts.
>>319374007
There was a tweet about how ps now service will also come to pc.
>>319375048
This. Consoles have a convenience and simplicity factor PCs will never be able to have.
You don't have to seek out and choose the best parts at the best prices and then build the PC, or even choose a pre-built PC from hundreds of brands and models. You don't have to check the newest games to make sure your specs are good, and you don't have to mess with any settings. And so on.
You literally choose one of two things, and pay your 300-400 dollars. Then, you are guaranteed your box will play any game released on it for the next few years.
>>319375414
Still multiplat
>>319375573
It's literally exclusive, fuck off with your mental gymnastics idiot.
>>319375473
>Resogun exclusive to the PS4 despite being on the PS3?
It launched on the PS4 first and what's the point of playing Resogun without the cool GPU-accelerated physics?
>>319374426
Fuck your movies and fuck the new trend of telltale likes.
>>319373201
I cannot wait until next year so all these threads can stop and people can talk about the actual games instead of the console.
>>319374528
You are talking out of your ass. Bundles right now are for $300 and you usually get either 3 or two games. Not to mention a brand new controller are always on sale for $40. So you have two controllers which is what you need, most games aren't 4 player split-screen anymore.
Second, the same websites that sell cheap PC games, also sell cheap PSN/Xbox Online cards.
cdkeys (.) c o m /playstation-network-psn
g2a (.) c o m /xbox-live-12-months-gold-subscription-card-gold-global.html
Amazon always have sells of new games and Walmart even put AAA games at $40 at two months period. Next time, instead of spouting bullshit, do some research.
>>319375573
So Rise of the Tomb Raider, Forza Horizon 2, and Super Smash Bros Wii U are all multiplatforms.
>>319371663
This basically.
Same thing with the whole bloodborne thing too. It's the only game they can come up with.
I have a good PC and a Wii U and the only thing thats actually getting me to get a PS4 is KH3.
Although, there is..
Bloodborne
Persona 5
Kingdom Hearts 3
Senran Kagura.
I mean for now, thats really it. Im sure Ps4 will do what the PS3 did for me now. Chill out and eventually I'll have a massive library to play in due time. I still have a PS3 backlog because places like the PSN and FUCKING GAMESTOP sell used PS3 games for dirt cheap.
FFS I found MGR for 5 bucks new at a five below.
Though it stuns me how Wii U is never taken seriously, aside from the name, its got a shit ton of exclusives that just are enjoyable to play.
>>319375820
>the PS4 only has 10 games, why would I pay $300 for a machine with 10 games?
>>319374546
the PS4 is what, the equivalent of a mid-market PC from 2 years ago?
while the PS3 had some twisted architecture (a sony thing until the PS4) you won't make me believe they can't code an optimized enough emulator with all their knowledge when a ragtag team can code a somewhat working emulator with next to no documentation but working on a high end PC
I love how these threads are daily, yet, no one questions if shilling.
>>319375285
Adding to that there isn't really a must-get tittle that you can only play on PC. Don't get me wrong if you can play a multiplat a good PC is the place to play it (although there are issues for JP games because the japs can't into porting)
"PC gaming is dead" wasn't just a meme, the PC was losing it's consumer base at an incredible pace back in the day and was really only saved because World of Warcraft became a world-wide phenomenon.
Today with nothing akin to WoW on the horizon the average joe doesn't have a title that would make him buy/build a PC
>>319371663
>or whatever reason normies don't even consider the Wii U when deciding which console to get.
Because Wii U can't play GTA, Fallout, The Witcher, MGS, and tons of other games that people care about?
>>319371663
Because Bloodborne is literally better than every exclusive on Wii U combined you manchild.
Also had a ton of fun with Until Dawn, Infamous SS, Tearaway Unfolded, Disgaea 5, and LBP3.
>>319375885
You should really add Nier: Automata on that list
Trust me
