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>>319347991
>wanting another OPEN WORLD SANDBOX game
Let them do their Telltale's The Walking FF7.
Also FF7R got announced 5 months ago and they're already showing polished footage.
Remember how long its been since XV was announced?
>you trusted nomura
FFXV was originally planned to be a series.
They did in fact confirm it was toned down to fit it into a single game when Tabata took over the project.
>>319347991
They just want to start profiting off it as soon as possible, selling it in episodes allows them to do that.
>>319348165
They decided to keep 7R a secret for longer.
Do you honestly think that it's been in developmnt for only 5 months?
>>319348165
The difference is that 7R is made with UE4, instead of that clusterfuck shit engine they used for XV.
>>319348835
They've flat out said it's been in development since 2014.
I also don't think Square Enix could completely remake FF7R with modern graphics to live up to everyone's overblown expectations of the game in just 3 years in order to release it during the game's 20th anniversary like they seem to be planning.
>>319348998
FF7 is massive enough as is, remaking it at the standard of fidelity they've shown off so far would be fucking insane
I can see why they'd want to split it up into several games
can't wait for the massive drop in sales each chapter
>>319349207
This. I'm just gonna wait for all the episodes to be out before I get it or not.
>>319349425
Why was it called Lightning Returns when she never left?
>large game/map with nothin in it
>large game/map with stuff in it
knowthedifference.jpg
>>319349750
it's how fast people returned the game
Considering how poorly Squenix is doing, they have no choice but to milk it as hard as they can.
>>319347991
Kojima said the same thing about MGSV and see how that turned out.
MGSV would be better if it was episodic with each chapter being a different game instead of being a rushed and unfinished game.
>Chapter 1 1st Sept 2015
>Chapter 2 Early 2016
>Chapter 3 Somewhere near December 2016
>Chapter 4
>Chapter 5
>?
>>319349893
LOL
>>319350059
>5 years
>rushed
Lol, kojidrones
>>319349893
kek
You can fit more assets in a single good building in an RPG than you can an entire open world zone. Most of FFXV's zones are endless expanses of nothing and trees. Like MGSV.
>>319349893
You're alright, anon.
>>319348165
Why do people think the FF7 remake is going to be done like a Telltale game? I'm assuming it's going to be more like the XIII series, with 3 numbered parts that are full games.
>>319350659
That doesn't make sense, though, since it's pretty much just a remake. Unless they triple (or more) the content, that is. It wouldn't be a remake if they added that much content.
>>319350989
They've already said we'll be seeing parts of Midgar that were not in the original.
>>319350261
>criticizing MGSV
>kojidrones
Shouldn't use buzzwords you don't understand faggot.
Kojima made an half assed game. Chapter 2 is a copy paste of the same side ops because Kojima is a hack and spent his time masturbating to his own image instead of making a decent game.
>>319347991
Final Fantasy XV is going to be episodic too though.
>FFVII:R will be split into multiple parts
>Each entry will have the volume of content equal to a full-sized game
>There will not be any new characters.
>Character models are being supervised by Visual Work's director.
>The team is staying away from total realism for the designs, since it might make certain characters hard to recognize. Instead, they are going to make them as real as possible, while keeping the character's personality and design intact.
>Advent Children's model data is over ten years old, so they cannot use it, even if that were the direction the team had decided upon.
>Everything from the recent trailer, aside from the recycled E3 Trailer footage, was real-time. The end scene where Cloud gets off the train transitions directly into gameplay.
>Cloud looking sick is partly due to the lighting. Nojima thinks Cloud's sickly appearance is brilliant.
>Cross-dressing is in the game, but Nomura has yet to work on the design. However, this is not representative of the development timeline, as they are working out of order. For example, Nomura designed President Shinra back in June, 2015.
>All the party member's designs are renewed like Barret's. At first they thought of going with the Advent Children design for Barret, but decided against it.
>Both the ATB and Limit gauge are present, but work differently than in the original. The ATB turning red is particularly important.
>Battle tempo will be similar to Dissidia. Battle system is being made by people who have experience in both Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts.
CONT.
>>319351967
>Nomura: "If we tried to stuff the whole game into one release, some parts of the game would have to appear as digests. We'd have to remove some of the original content from the game, and it would be especially difficult to add anything more. Considering that a full remake of the original game must be achieved, we have decided to split the game into multiple episodes."
>Kitase: "Taking the No.8 Street shown in the recent trailer, even just this is already highly dense. If we are to remake the content of the original version at that quality, it would be impossible to do with a single release. Splitting the original version into episodes with nothing dropped, as well as adding complements, and remaking the game in it's full volume is what we are thinking."
>Kitase: "Unlike the encounter battles in the original version, we're aiming for seamless, active battles like those shown in the recent trailer."
>Nomura: "Since the game is based on Final Fantasy VII, elements like the ATB Gauge and Limit Breaks will appear, but with new usage [to reflect the new combat system]. Please wait for our further announcements on how they will evolve."
>Nomura: "We are planning to dig deeper with the story in the episodes. Players who have played the original surely know everything from the game, including many very important moments. We would love to give even these players surprises."
>Kitase: "We are not going to remake a game so you only play for nostalgia. We want to make the hearts of the original fans pump. Additions will be made with this goal clear in the minds of the team."
Sources:
http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/173/1173362/
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201512/07094721.html
http://gematsu.com/2015/06/final-fantasy-vii-remake-wont-have-new-characters
http://thelifestream.net/news/final-fantasy-vii-news/33038/ffvii-remake-nomura-interview-translation-from-famitsu/
http://kotaku.com/sounds-like-the-final-fantasy-vii-remake-will-be-episod-1746564216
>>319352074
So the graphics are too big and expensive for it to be one game. got it.
>>319352074
>http://kotaku.com/sounds-like-the-final-fantasy-vii-remake-will-be-episod-1746564216
that link is actually pretty irrelevant since they don't say anything important or relevant. why even link to Kotaku? Jason just bitches about every FF game that isn't 6.
>>319350059
>my one game turned out like that guys! Let's ignore all the other games we've gotten in the past that were complete on release!
>>319350643
is that a heroin addict's baby?
>>319352506
Jesus fuck you defensive fanboys are plain retarded.
Can you even compare the scope of MGSV to MGS4 or 3? Both linear games? My point isn't to criticize Kojima so you can calm your tits fangirl. It's to point out how an overly grandiose project could have benefited from being episodic due to it's huge structure and inherent financial risk.
>>319348719
No it was not. Versus was always its own game, and all that happened was they transitioned from Ebony to Luminous aka PS3 to PS4/Xbone.
>>319349786
>FF7
>stuff
There is a huge amount of nothing between towns which are 2-3 screen transitions large. Everything between A and B is just grass and trees
>>319347991
And you know what? FF15 has been in development since AT LEAST 2006. SE clearly knows that they can't make a game that big again and actually release it in a timely matter. It sucks horse dick, but there you have it
>>319353061
not sure if bait, but the point is that mgsv is the outlier, not the norm.
>>319352506
Why are you bringing up previous mgs games anon?
Literal retard.
>>319353061
MGS5 really needs a reworked camera for indoors. The villa with code talker is so claustrophobic
>>319353339
Yes V is the outlier in the series, so?
V is vastely different from 4 or 3 or even PW so what's your point? That MGS games are finished games? Yes they are, you're still missing the point because V is a huge game compared to other MGS games and it's more similar to an open world project like FFVII R than MGS2 for obvious reasons. Are you getting triggered because you're favourite game is being criticized or something?
>>319349425
I get the feeling one chapter's going to have a spike in sales.
Still, going to be hard to sell an episodic game with a story that everybody who cared has already played through.
>Aeris dies
>Feels like I'm right at the end of the game going to face the final boss
>I'm only 1/3rd through
Honestly if they split this up into a trilogy it probably won't feel too bad. This won't be the Hobbit of video games.
>>319349207
>remaking it at the standard of fidelity they've shown off so far would be fucking insane
It could be doneif they used no VAs, but people find that unacceptable nowadays
This is clearly a ploy to get the game out sooner while recouping the costs for development. It's no secret that Nomura would much rather remake V and VI, and if this ends up successful that will probably be what he does after KH3 and FF7R.
>>319353873
The Golden Saucer is gonna look amazing, I can't fucking wait.
>This won't be the Hobbit of video games.
Why are you so sure? Do you know any episodic game that wasn't adventure game that handled this well?
>>319353339
>being this dense
kek'd. no one is saying anything about other games you mongoloid. it's a comparison between an ambitious game with another ambitious game. both too big to make with a constricted release window in one go and the plasticsurgery pain would be better if it wasn't a rushed shit.
>b-b-b-but the other mgs gaems
not relevant to the comparison dickwad. there's a containment thread on /vg/ for mgsdrones to spaz.
>>319353404
>>319353783
why do you faggots assume I'm talking about MGS as a series? This is a thread about Open world games in general.
>>319354006
What's so hard about the voice acting?
It's not like they're making a Bethesda or Bioware game. Most NPC conversations just have one line of dialog.
>>319348165
>polished footage
do you think thats actual gameplay or something? Or do you think those are hard to make?
>>319347991
the leaps of logic you people go through to shit on nintendo is astounding
>>319349425
Sucks since the games got better, especially 2, holy shit that's a great game
>>319350384
While this is usually true, Xenoblade Chronicles X is the counter argument.
>>319354023
It won't work in an episodic game and will be gimped calling it now.
That's not a contradiction.
Just Cause 2, the game with the largest handcrafted open world of any video game ever, is only 4GB. Final Fantasy XIII, a linear corridor RPG, is 55.3GB.
has open world/map been confirmed?
my biggest fear is that these episodic games turn out to be nothing more than hallway simulator with a couple of QTE thrown in...
>>319354249
if they got the disney team who does the VA for Kingdom Hearts to do it, it could work, but I'm guessing they're not so it's going to feel weird and strange because the lines are translated from japanese without much changing it to feel natural.
If you've played other dubbed games from them you'd know what I mean.
If you dont think XV was cut down and be released as 3 games you are an idiot. They are gonna XIII XV. Enjoy the shitty l'cie fal'cie shit being shoehorned in too. They talked about the game being too long with 40 hours
>>319354465
>hand crafted
pffft
Just Cause 2 is the biggest case of copy pasting environmental and building assets since Daggerfall
>>319349425
>>319354431
>tfw we're the only ones who liked the XIII trilogy
>>319354540
>>319354540
XV doesn't have the I'cie and Fal'cie shit in it though
>>319354231
So you're saying MGSV is the outlier in open world games with too much cutcontent?
lol'k
>>319354613
Hand-placed would be more accurate.
>>319354507
No confirmation of a world map yet. The only gameplay we've seen was from the first 15 minutes of the game in Midgar.
>>319354613
And you just described FFXV.
I meant "hand crafted" in that it wasn't procedurally generated.
>>319354678
yes I am? The royal fuckuppery of MGSV that didn't even have an ending is hardly commonplace.
>>319354729
>>319354808
The bases are hand placed in that someone used a halo forge like tool to copy paste assets in them.
The giant fields are mostly flat, and much of the environment is just skewed across them in a randomly generated pattern.
A better example of a hand crafted world would be XCX, where there are actual design decisions clearly used in each area.
This whole thing seems like the video game equivalent of those film adaptations of popular books. That shit where they poorly cut the story up in to episodes simply for the sake of wringing out more cash at the box office.
>>319354613
That is exactly what will go in 7's overworld/open world. There is absolutely NOTHING between towns/locations on the map
>>319347991
Holy shit. So will I be able to go back to previous locations in later episodes or what.
BOTY goes to Final Fantasy VII Remake Episode 3, Part 2. Welcome to level-cap hell
>FF7R
>its not single game...cause game is too large!
>>319356059
haha what
>>319349750
>never left
>play as her for 10 minutes then never see her for the rest of the game
???
>>319350989
Just by making it an action game is already expanding it a ton. Smaller areas with combat will need to be increased in size for more fights to take place now that you don't have an imaginary battlefield you warp to to fight in.
Looking forward to the Midgar Zolom and WEAPONS.
>>319356059
this can't be right. If it is you just sold a copy of XV
>>319356059
Is this actually confirmed?
Because if so, this is going to be the most empty and boring open world in the history of video games. Will likely suffer the worst case of open world syndrome ever seen.
I couldn't fucking stand JC2 because of it. The ziplining is fun and all, but my god the world is the most uninspired shit ever because it's all just random generation or copy paste.
>>319356616
>Because if so, this is going to be the most empty and boring open world in the history of video games
this. There is absolutely no way you could fill that much area with enough interesting things for it not to feel empty and pointless.
>>319347991
If you were to remake FFVII as a 3D ARPG, with full explorable areas with all the side quests and shit, that's a HUGEEEE task. I'd rather have 1 game, but the way they've talked about they wanna go about makes complete sense. If they manage to deliver FFVII in its entirety + more than I'll be fine with it.
What they should've said, since everyone is apparently retarded, is that FF7 is too large to remake in full in time for the 20th anniversary.
>>319354431
For me it was just how BAD 13 was overall that I had no interest in supporting future ventures into that particular end of the franchise.
>>319349893
underrated post
>>319349893
>>319349425
Are any of these good? Is there a reason to play the others if only one is good?
>>319353291
You are wrong, FFXII Versus was originally to be a part of the whole FFXII universe along with the shitty phone game. It was supposed to be a whole big story played out over different games and from different viewpoints but it was trashed because lightning favoritism and shitty decisions.
>>319355908
Odds are world map will always be explorable, but certain story events that advance the game will be behind episode walls.
Odds are the first episode would end with junon, second episode with aeris dying, third episode the cloud lifestream saga, final episode sephiroth.
You can make a game episodic without taking away open world rather easilly by just not advancing the story.
>>319359087
>along with the shitty phone game
You mean the PSP game.
>>319356908
Every final fantasy overworld has been big looming terrain filled with nothing but random encounters. This has like, always been what open worlds have been, the point is to cross it, that's it.
>>319354769
15 minutes? Where?
>>319356908
>>319356616
No shit. Our actual world has tons of wasted space between interesting things. That is the actual world map but we have no clue the dimensions. Looks like numbers pulled out of someone's ass.
>>319358540
The entire trilogy is an abstract mess, and weird as fuck. Get it for pure curiosity if you need.
I don't regret playing them, but I certainly wouldn't call any of them good.
Most seem to agree XIII-2 has the best battle system going for it, but you'll get nothing out of the story without the first game, and by that point you might as well do LR as well.
>>319359543
Was originally going to be a mobile game for sony devices, it was one of the big pushes behind that one phone they made that had psp controls.
>>319358540
If you like 40 hour tutorials while playing through corridors that get old very quickly, you will love it.
>>319359892
Everything in the two minutes of the game we saw in the new trailer is from the first 15 minutes of the original game
>>319349893
>>319356059
Do you really expect me to walk my ass across all that shit?
>>319356059
Map size doesn't mean shit when its empty and the fundamentals are trash plus you have to play as a gay ass boy band.
>>319349893
SAVAGE
>>319347991
Too large doesn't necessarily mean map size.
>>319363275
I'm pretty sure they mean the whole undertaking of making the game and what they have planned for it. It makes no fucking sense to be talking about data size when they could spread it across multiple disks like the original.
>>319356059
What the fuck.
