Now that the dust has been settled, do you guys think this game was good? I have yet to play it, but I noticed you guys were shilling pretty hard when it came out for PC.
>>319313216
I've been playing it
Its fun, I don't get the hate for it, its an enjoyable tales of game (as in, you gotta accept beforehand that the story is simplistic and some of the characters are gonna be caricatures)
I was about to make a topic asking if this is worth getting on the pc.
I've never played tales before. I just want something comfy to play
>>319314285
I just want something comfy to play
Legendia is your game
>>319313216
>Now that the dust has been settled
clean your fucking room
PCfags were shilling super hard for it because its the first Tales game on PC. The next game will sell like shit just like what happens with all these weeb games on Steam
As for the game itself its weak. The Human characters are boring as fuck and the spirits are the only ones that are entertaining at all. The battle system is clunky and the camera is fucking shit.
The villains are all wasted potential that do nothing. The overworld is pretty but almost all the dungeons are copypasted ruins.
The soundtrack is fantastic though. I'll give the game that.
tl;dr the game is weak by Tales standards and is only hyped at all because of PCfags who dont know any better
It's the only Tales game I've dropped.
Dungeon design is atrocious, battles feel clunky which ruins the best point of the system it builds off of, and whoever thought up the skill system needs to be shot.
Tales of games are average JRPG's in the majority of its titles
Its series that thrives in its mediocrity
Mediocre story
Mediocre characters
Mediocre world
The combat system used to be its selling point and novelty but with the ascension of action rpgs it just feels alright
I hope that Berseria do things right for a change
It's very average.
The few good things it does are outweighed by how bland everything else is, and the game is full of terrible design choices that just make things way more tedious and uninteresting than they need to be.
>>319313216
It's ok but should have been far better. They clearly rushed the game or just didn't finish it, you have large gaps in the story/background/gameplay that are really awkward.
Loved the music and characters though, also dat ending.
Steamfaggots have shit taste.
>>319316551
>They clearly rushed the game or just didn't finish it
That reminds me, I wonder what the hell is this. There's no way it wasn't meant to be something.
Not good.
But not the unplayable shit storm you would think it was if you paid attention to the pre release discussion.
>>319317783
Maybe it would have been a DLC area.
>>319317783
Perhaps it would been access to another area.
>>319315552
>the tales of series is mediocre
I will never understand this meme. The Vesperia (ps3 version) cast of characters is probably one the of the best cast of any JRPG ever.
does the community patch work well on pc? the one so you get 60fps etc.
>>319317783
Dungeon for Baba and his waifu.
>>319313216
Pretty good
The character's were pretty good
I like they got rid of the MP system because of the party AI
I don't like that they force half your party and they practically killed off best girl at the beginning of the game.
>>319318124
Yeah
>>319318383
> I like they got rid of the MP system because of the party AI
>I have never played a Destiny games before in my life
Tales of Rebirth back in 2004 didn't use TP followed by Destiny Remake, Hearts and Graces.
>>319318383
>best girl gets killed off at the beginning of the game
Rose sticks around for most of the game tho
Just beat the english version today and it was as fun as i remembered. My only complain is that being KOed takes away too much grade. Even if I use the defend command for the whole (boss) battle, AI still manages to die at least 5 times, resulting to 0 grade...
>>319313216
It's a good name. It was just waifufags after all.
>>319313216
It was just okay, like every single tales game I ever played. Clearly another low budget one.
>>319319212
>the game is instantly more interesting with a turbo marysue that can do no wrong
?????
I finished it. The story was terribly executed even for the series standards, the characters had no real development from beginning to end in a premise that is supposed to promote development and the battle was so bad, so so bad, "how the fuck do you botch graces battle so bad?" bad. DLC chapter was the last straw for me. I expected some sort of development there but nope lets go see what happened to MC instead of moving on with our lives and getting shit done. Dropped it close to the end.
Great music for the series standards at least. Way to waste Go Shiina on this turd Bamco.
>>319319394
>the game is much better once the whiny mary sue leaves
Seems about right
>>319319212
Zestiria is actually a pretty dank name desu
Shame about the game though.
>>319319653
It's okay if I had to say something about it.
>>319319653
>>319319802
kuudere loli made everything worth it
Lets look at the combat of the game it was based off of. ToG(f)
>20 cc by the end of the game if you didn't know what you were doing.
>artes return 1cc on use by the end of the game
>hitting all weak points refunds all cc
>activating accel mode refunds all cc
>as long as you're keeping enemies in hit stun via weaknesses they'll stay in hit stun
>mystic arts based on number of hits or it's own bar
>dodging is important
>free running is penalized(free running trivializes all the tales that had it in)
Now for ToZ
>5 burst charges by the end of the game if you didn't know what you were doing
>4-5 hit combos if you didn't know what you were doing by the end
>extending combos requires burst charge
>mystic arte require 3+ burst arts
>enemies get super armor in the middle of combos even if you are hitting their weaknesses
>free running isn't penalized
If you look up graces and xillia2 combo videos you can see some crazy shit. When you look up zesteria videos you see some boring shit because they made it so you couldn't style your way to victory.
>>319319835
That's good then anon.
>>319318383
>practically killed off best girl at the beginning of the game.
Mikleo "died" but you don't find that out till way late in the game. The fuck are you talking about?
>>319319998
>hitting all weak points refunds all cc
It doesn't work like that but apart form that I agree.
Zesty is just a step backwards in every area.
I'm glad they ported it to PC though because at least some things can be fixed with mods.
>>319320197
I want to molest Edna.
>>319320676
The only thing that mods "fixed" was the 30fps bullshit which was inexcusable since every other Tales game on PS3 could do 60
>>319320798
Is there a list of all the name puns he got? I enjoyed the banter in this game.
>>319320991
Get in line.
>>319321142
A shame there's so little good fanart of her. Especially the porn she gain breasts cancer everytime.
>>319321240
I don't mind it but yes I get your point.
>>319313216
>Now that the dust has been settled, do you guys think this game was good?
11 months later... No, I still don't like it.
>>319313216
>Now that the dust has been settled
>>319318118
I love Vesperia's cast of characters, and I love the combat, especially in Destiny: DC, Rebirth, and Graces, but I still think the series is overall medicore at best.
>>319319382
So what am I if I'm a Phantasia, Destiny: DC, Symphonia, Rebirth, Abyss, and Vesperia fan?
>>319313216
I bought it on release day, played for ~10 hours and never touched it again. First time this happened with a Tales game.
It's not that bad as people make it out to be, but it's not good either.
>>319317783
If you look at the world map, you can see that the area for what would be beyond that door is the same style as the areas that just haven't been yet discovered.
>>319321534
As a man of flat chests it kind of pisses me off when artists do that.
>>319315225
So I've played around 2 hours of the game, and can you just confirm how terrible I think the battle system is?
I played Tales of Symphonia when it came out on Gamecube, and loved the battle system, and this one seems similar but different.
There were more skills, or at least more buttons to use skills in ToS right? I just cant remember what the difference is.
>>319313216
>>319322903
That's fine then anon.
>>319322940
I haven't played Zestiria, but iirc ToS had artes on B, attack on A, and the c-stick was arte shortcuts for anyone in the party (including yourself).
X and Y were probably guard and something else.
>>319313216
It was average like most Tales game but I really didn't like the equipment system and fusion was overpowered.
>>319313216
I played it on ps3,and bad performance aside it was ok. the story didn't make any fucking sense at timesLike how at the beginning of the game they mention there hasn't been a shepherd in a very long time yet the previous shepherd was sorey's uncle and sorey is 18-19 years oldThe character movesets are a bit underdeveloped and fuck the areas are horribly big and empty,but i had a good time
>>319313216
Zestria reminds me of a shitty IF game.
A bunch of half thought together gameplay mechanics and a cast of paper thin party members exploring a bland as hell world.
>>319319653
Does anybody knows what's she saying?
>>319319382
I started with Symphonia but Vesperia is objectively best one.
As a modern RPG totally separated from the Tales franchise, Zesteria wasn't so bad.
Combat starts very shallow, and as you unlock more stuff, you'll find that you really don't have THAT many options. There is enough skill involved that you can play the game incredibly different from someone else and achieve much better results, but most people will find optimal combos and burst patterns very easily and just spam them. Some people think Armatization is just a "spam button to win" feature, and game can definitely feel grindy if you use it that way.
AI (both ally and enemy) can be infuriating at times.
Camera control seems like a huge oversight in some areas of the game.
Story is meh. Certainly has potential and some cool themes, but you can tell there was some rushing in the process. Some character arcs receive setup and then are dropped off the face of the Earth in favor of you having more party interaction.
Main party characters are pretty good. With the exception of Sorey/Rose being pretty Gary/Mary Stu respectively, they're all pretty likable. Even edgelord Dezel has his moments. All side characters and antagonists are a COMPLETE letdown.
Dungeon design is average. 95% of the dungeons are "go the long way for more treasure and unlock a shortcut on your way back in case you need to backtrack later." There's not much backtracking unless you're grinding gear though.
The Equipment system is the most unique thing about the game, and frankly, it's not that good. Your first playthrough it's basically useless, as simply equipping the weapons and armor with the best stats is more efficient than trying to get good skill sets on them. It does give good rewards for NG+ and higher difficulty players though, as proper equipment management can make your power level skyrocket.
Visuals/Audio can't complain. Music especially is pretty great.
Overall 6 out of 10 where 5 is average. Definitely an enjoyable game and if you're into niche jRPGs. Definitely not exemplary.
>>319323986
Oops, forgot last line.
In comparison to other Tales of games, 3/10. If you were to put them all in a line, this falls below the average and fairly far at that. If the game felt more complete with antagonist and character side stories, and the combat system was a bit closer to more recent releases, the game could easily hit the average mark, if not a little higher, but it's just too much of a discrepancy.
>>319323453
>That spoiler
I don't remember that... Was it an optional scene? If not I may have missed it somehow since I played the game when it came out and my Japanese (mostly kanji) wasn't as good as it is now, though I was able to follow things fairly closely for the most part.
>>319323575
>What? You're getting excited? You pervert.
>>319324659
Allow me to translate that once more, but a bit better this time.
>What? You're getting turned on? You pervert.
>>319324550
No,it's before the mayvin battle when you use an iris gem to revisit the events in camlann and learn that mikleo became a seraph after being used as a sacrifice Now that i think about it,the previous shepherd is mikleo's uncle,not sorey's,but the point is that the previous shepherd was alive less than 20 years before the events of the game
>>319323575
>The pleasure of being cummed inside
